Debt Rattle October 29 2024
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October 29, 2024 at 2:24 pm #172859jb-hbParticipant
I wouldn’t worry: they bought no guns, have no preps, did no training.
Idunno man. Yes, definitely the intelligencia, the 6-figure people – marketing, HR, publicists, news anchors, university teachers, etc – these people are mostly unarmed except for the occasional U-Lock used in surprise attacks.
But remember how easy it turned out during the lockdowns, for uninvited guests to enter Zoom calls?
I listened to a Zoom call of young marxists – the kind being bussed and flown around the country during the lockdowns and the content was interesting.
First, the character, the tone of the conversation had a weird style to it – current year marxists have sort of a sing songy “okay kidsie-widsies, time to ____” but they are speaking to all ADULTS. Their ART is atrocious – look at the trans school shooter’s artwork – very VERY typical. Whether they do the art for kids or adults, it has this same annoying super-infantile style to it. When I was 7 I would have absolutely loathed this art, so I am not sure who it could actually be for. Like, fuck this shit, we’re switching channels to Space Ghost.
So these Antifa members are talking in that same tone, also sounding a bit like a youth group but an annoying one where everyone talks like the woke cartoons look….
They were discussing a lot of “…and when we get our weapons and training…”
With their low-level Seargent/youth pastor assuring them how great it will be and what preparations they’ll all be doing. A bit reminiscent of how corporals of hitler youth would talk in Swing Kids.
Super creepy. What have they been doing since then?
These people have records preventing them from purchasing firearms?
infinite money to bus and jet these people all around, put them in hotels, leave pallets of bricks, put them through “training” and pay them a good wage? But there’ll be no money for the firearms they talk about?
Also, there’s all the mercs/contractors out there – the professionals – who would do whatever for professional reasons, not ideological. And of course 3 letter agency jerks.
Semi unworkable in the USA for various reasons. Main concern being to make regular americans the bad guys and bring police, military, courts, etc in on the other side. This was fairly successful in 2020-2021 when the police forces acted as bodyguards for Antifa-BLM and courts sent them out to play again when caught. But ultimately unsuccessful.
Interesting that during the riots, the neighborhoods that COULD keep them out were mostly ones where the gangs were in force. Couldn’t swing “white nazi americans are big meanies who won’t let us burn down their shops and collapse the insurance industry” when the mean nazis were Latinx™
But idunno. Did those Young Marxists go off to work in coffee shops and make marvel movies or did they get their training and weapons?
October 29, 2024 at 2:35 pm #172860John DayParticipant@tboc: What was Harry Hopkins to FDR? https://www.britannica.com/biography/Harry-L-Hopkins
October 29, 2024 at 2:38 pm #172861John DayParticipantI guess Steve Bannon slept without sheets for 4 months.
He must have had urges to hang himself.
;-oOctober 29, 2024 at 3:02 pm #172863OroborosParticipant@JohnDay
Dave Collum goes off on an epic rant about WWII and Stalin
At the 1:41:30 Mark
Collum says he did a deep dive on WWII and Lend-Lease program in particular
He says Harry Hopkins was a Commie to the core
He claims Harry Hopkins was Stalin’s agent. He said Hopkin was the Total Gatekeeper who kept anyone from trying to interface with Roosevelt on anything other than what Hopkins wanted him to see or hear.
He says Roosevelt was a very weak politician, gullible and easily influenced, in large part swayed by Hopkins to play to Stalin’s best interests
Tommy Podcast #1600 Rumble
ElectionCast | James Kunstler, Dave Collum, Tom Luongo
October 29, 2024 at 3:17 pm #172864John DayParticipant@Oroboros: There have been others who tried to paint FDR as weak and suggestible, but I don’t buy it. He was terribly over-extended for all of what he was tryng to do, and Harry Hopkins did appear to run the New-Deal part of the USA, so that can be done by strong advisors like those who are coalescing around Trump.
The moment of necessity may soon arise, and the plans to dispossess and e-Slave everybody but the elites needs to be prevented by something more politically constructive to the rest of us humans.
Musk CAN be a big part of this, as can Kennedy, and Bannon, and Gabbard and Ramaswamy.
It has been pent up for a long time, so visions of necessity have been clarified.
Trump can work the US bankruptcy, right?
Everybody says he has the experience…October 29, 2024 at 3:37 pm #172865OroborosParticipant@JohnDay
Roosevelt let Pearl Harbor happen to lay the groundwork for the Empire of Lies and the National Security State that followed.
Collum also claims Lend-Lease the the Soviets was magnitudes higher than was publicly acknowledged and was never repayed.
October 29, 2024 at 3:45 pm #172866John DayParticipant@Oroboros: I beg to differ. Roosevelt forced Japan to attack Pearl Harbor, and kept their approach secret from the local Navy and Army commanders, getting the aircraft carriers out 2 weeks ahead, and the other modern ships out 1 week ahead of December 7. Roosevelt completely planned and executed it to get into the European war. https://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/McCollum/index.html
The US was secretly at war with Japan before they even arrived, by secret treaty with the Dutch Empire.The Russians paid in Russian blood, and beat Hitler. That was cheap for the US.
October 29, 2024 at 4:20 pm #172867Mr. HouseParticipant@ Dr. Day
That still doesn’t explain why it was hitler who declared war on the United States when he didn’t have to. When you look at casualties, it almost looks like Hitler was a stooge for one side………. instead of Ukraine soldiers dying for the west, it was Germans.
October 29, 2024 at 6:06 pm #172868John DayParticipant@Mr. House: Yeah, Hitler did not want war against the US or UK. Roosevelt made it look like the US fleet got destroyed by the Japanese, with whom Hitler had a mutual defense treaty, and Hitler was sucker enough to take the bait, figuring the US would be tied-up with Japan, but Roosevelt totally ignored Japan until the US had invaded North Africa for training, and was advancing through France.
FDR had his own mind, as did Stalin, and they were a cut above Churchill’s mind, but FDR died-funny at just the right moment for the Bush, Dulles and Harriman families, and “Churchill’s Gang” as Stalin called it.You might see why George W. Bush once declared his admiration for FDR (despite FDR being a family rival).
October 29, 2024 at 6:11 pm #172869John DayParticipantFDR intended for the Americans to replace the British Empire with a more anti-colonialist model, with the US as the Head-Equal, but he died just in time for the UK-finance and US oligarchs to hijack his mechanism to continue the “Empire” in a borrowed format, like a hermit crab…
October 29, 2024 at 6:32 pm #172870wdtParticipant>A Sick Society Can’t Connect Dots
So your are giving us extra so that it will be easier?
John Day : do you know the meaning of the word precis? OR synopcsis?October 29, 2024 at 6:35 pm #172871Maxwell QuestParticipant“Whaaaaaah! Why didn’t Joe Rogan ask Trump about the Covid pandemic?”
Fair question, but put yourself in their shoes. I’m not sure about Rogan, but many of these people with high-level connections like Trump, Musk, Gabbard, and Ramaswamy are pretty well informed about what is going on in the world. But when you see them in an interview or at the podium, who are they talking to? I’ll tell you, some of the most ignorant people on the planet, that have been lied to for most of their lives, live in the Matrix, cheer on their local football team, and try to make ends meet.
What are you going to do, hit them between the eyes with the global depopulation agenda, global governance, and secret treaties with other star systems? Just try it and see what happens to your audience and reputation. We’ve all tried it within our own little circle and where has it gotten us? As soon as their little rowboat starts to rock a little the shields go up and a volley of photon torpedoes are launched in our direction – an emotional barrage of cliches and talking points recently heard on TV news, IOW automatic defense mechanisms kick in to protect the psyche.
In order to function, people need a stable foundation, a mental structure of belief that informs their purpose. Often referred as a world view and a life view. You don’t mess with that without blowback. Being burned at the stake comes to mind. In today’s world, however, we forgo the burning of heretics and witches. You just loose your audience, become a pariah, and get cast into outer darkness with all the other who tried to wake up their contemporaries.
If you are lucky, articulate, and persuasive, you might be able to move them from A -> B, but not much further. That takes time. First you have to get their attention and hold it long enough to have an influence. This means speaking about things they can relate to and that make sense, based on their current level of understanding.
October 29, 2024 at 6:41 pm #172872John DayParticipant@wdt: I presume you mean “synopsis” and precis.
Yes. I have done all of that for you, and it is still more than you want to look at.
Busy time in history right now, eh?October 29, 2024 at 6:43 pm #172873John DayParticipantChinese government workers call up women to urge them to have babies
The national grass-roots campaign to gauge sentiment and create pregnancy incentives is running into lingering resentment and worry, officials say
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3284192/chinese-government-workers-call-women-urge-pregnancy-latest-birth-rate-push?module=top_story&pgtype=homepageOctober 29, 2024 at 6:47 pm #172874zerosumParticipantCampaign of Hate/lies/anger/
What will happen after 5 Nov.?October 29, 2024 at 6:49 pm #172875WESParticipantBlackmailing Hillary Clinton:
The blackmail on Hillary Clinton must be huge!
Just about every day Hillary is out saying nonsense!
Things that reduce her credibility and make her look foolish.
Maybe all those trips to Epstein’s island?October 29, 2024 at 7:25 pm #172876OroborosParticipantThis is Incredible!
This Osprey managed to hoist out a big Gafftopsail catfish from the ocean.
October 29, 2024 at 7:34 pm #172877jb-hbParticipantIn order to function, people need a stable foundation, a mental structure of belief that informs their purpose. Often referred as a world view and a life view. You don’t mess with that without blowback.
Studies have found that even if you adopt a totally incorrect and obsolete school of thought – for instance, to address psychological troubles using a classic antiquated Freudian framework – you will STILL get better vs having no structure whatsoever.
I pat myself on the back that I can skeptically jump on any new alternative news thing, mine the hell out of its information for 4 hour stints, and then hold the new info in a kind of heisenberg suspension indefinitely. Healthily informed. Healthily disbelieving. I bet it was all a controlled opposition psyop made into an obviously controlled psyop,purposely to trick you by its obviousness, but secretly manipulated by Q into accidentally achieving white hat ends — at least that’s what the black hats are trying to MAKE me believe, but I am not fooled!
And so people with a relatively narrow or even incorrect worldview get shit done, live real lives that matter more effectively than me. Which is exactly my point about traditions and established religions like Christianity — it’s a well-tested structure no longer in beta testing – you can take it off the shelf, slap down, and then within that matrix get done all the life-living stuff that really matters.
And so I reflect that it is well and good that people live within non-grandiose finite structures. Wholesome and absolutely necessary. Waiting for the normies to realize the New Structure isn’t just a “be kind” addon, but is for dismantling the old structure that actually makes life livable.
October 29, 2024 at 7:43 pm #172878WESParticipantOroboros:
That was a Kamala catfish!
The osprey just needed to ride a Trump wave to get airborne!October 29, 2024 at 8:08 pm #172879Maxwell QuestParticipant“The blackmail on Hillary Clinton must be huge!”
That may be true, Wes, but I think there is something more at work here. Possibly the same reason that the greed prick, Bill Gates, is now throwing bags of money at the DNC. They too are witnessing the shifting tides that Herr Dockter reminds us of. Their finger is in the air and it’s no longer blowing favorably.
The unwashed masses are getting ever closer to a strong whiff of oxygen (truth) that might awaken them from their long slumber. If that were to happen, that the deplorables finally discover what all these evil bastards have been up to, and march on the Bastille, whose heads are going to be first in the guillotine? Hillary and Bill Gates to be sure, along with many, many others. When blood is demanded for blood already spilt, legal niceties and decorum can easily be swept aside in the tsunami of retribution.
That is also why those globalist bastards in Brussels and here are screaming about the need for censorship to keep things under control. They also see that the winds of change are blowing. And just like that the desire for power and global domination is quickly replaced by the desire for self-preservation. Panic sets in.
Now’s a good time to stock up on popcorn and knitting needles.
October 29, 2024 at 8:32 pm #172880Maxwell QuestParticipant“I pat myself on the back that I can skeptically jump on any new alternative news thing, mine the hell out of its information for 4 hour stints, and then hold the new info in a kind of heisenberg suspension indefinitely. Healthily informed. Healthily disbelieving.”
This is a rare talent. The average person could not function with this level of uncertainty. And how many people do you know who are even curious enough to mine a topic for 4 hours straight like Neo in his training programs? “He’s a machine!” – Tank
“And so people with a relatively narrow or even incorrect worldview get shit done, live real lives that matter more effectively than me.”
Maybe, but I don’t think so. My only desire growing up was to live a normal life, have the picket fence, with kids playing in the backyard. NOPE, not for you, Pal! Fate had other plans.
Now, after all the shit, suffering, stretching, and hammering, would I trade what I have now for that idyllic life vision I once had? No way, Jose! Just as a college freshman would not choose to go back and play with paste, crayons, and the alphabet back in kindergarten when he’s already playing with gravitational mechanics and enjoying the Bolshoi and Shakespeare.
October 29, 2024 at 9:24 pm #172881aspnazParticipant“Throughout its almost 90-year history, the carmaker has never closed a plant in its home country..”
Good job they have lots of factories in China where the people haven’t lost their minds … https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Group_China. I guess this is the slow move our of Germany, we all knew it was going to happen to many companies, what with the price of energy in Germany.
October 29, 2024 at 9:36 pm #172882aspnazParticipantJust Some Randomer said
I appreciate Trump’s position on ending the conflict in Ukraine, but really, all he can do is stop sending weapons and money. Everything thereafter is out of his hands.
Exactly, but an ego like Trump has to think it is the hero that saved the world.
October 29, 2024 at 9:40 pm #172883aspnazParticipantpoppie said
aspnaz as usual you provided fractions of information intended to misinform. ability to pay. disposable income is important, If you dont write something complete then no I probably wont try to read it. How about if you compare the spread of tarrifs to the spread of income taxes. Showing only income tax is usless fear mongering, Shitting out your mouth. If you need help, look at canadas VAT. its essentially the same.
I can take the horse to water, but if the horse is a retard, it is a waste of time.
October 29, 2024 at 10:05 pm #172884John DayParticipant@jb-hb: It is also easy for me to hold things in abeyance when the information for certainty is not there, but it does get simpler when there is eventually enough evidence for certainty…
Sometimes certainty is even immediate.October 29, 2024 at 10:30 pm #172885WESParticipantInsanity:⁷
In today’s upside down world, those creating war are considered sane, while those opposed to war are the insane ones, targeted for assassination!
Dr. John Day:
I was reading about hydrogen therapy.
In this case just drinking hydrogenated water via a magnesium pill dissolving in water, once a day.
Your thoughts?October 29, 2024 at 11:11 pm #172886OroborosParticipantVolkswagen is the lynch pin of the Germany economy and Germany is the lynch pin of Euroturdistan
Huge swaths of the Germany industrial base are companies that were spawned by Volkswagen and feed it vital parts and components for it’s products.
Break Volkswagen knees with a lead pipe like Tonya Harding putting the hit on Nancy Kerrigan and Euroturdistan economically folds and face plants big time.
Nord-stream’s intentional destruction was The Kiss of Death for Deutschland
It cannot be undone, period.
Germany will never ever be competitive on the world stage economically without cheap energy.
All things flow from cheap, reliable energy, end-of-story
Stick a fork in the Krauts
October 29, 2024 at 11:13 pm #172887jb-hbParticipantKeep in mind I’m GenX here, so it’s delivered with a sardonic double meaning – what I am trying to do and a sort of implicit sarcastic failure. “healthily” ha etc.
Basically, the normies have something right and I’m not so superior.
October 29, 2024 at 11:14 pm #172888OroborosParticipantIt’s Show Time!
October 29, 2024 at 11:17 pm #172889OroborosParticipantOh Canazida!
Look Out!
“Big Balls” is in the Building!
October 29, 2024 at 11:20 pm #172890OroborosParticipantOctober 29, 2024 at 11:22 pm #172891OroborosParticipantOctober 29, 2024 at 11:32 pm #172892OroborosParticipantTurdeau Speaks
October 29, 2024 at 11:33 pm #172894CelticbikerParticipantWdt, I’ll give you a synopsis. Nice to hear from someone new, by the way, instead of the same assholes with 10 page pronogstications.The jews want you dead. They’re doin it, look around. They got the money, so they’re doin it. We are cattle and deserve death, so says their Evil Book, so here we are.
October 29, 2024 at 11:33 pm #172893CelticbikerParticipantWdt, I’ll give you a synopsis. Nice to hear from someone new, by the way, instead of the same assholes with 10 page pronogstications.The jews want you dead. They’re doin it, look around. They got the money, so they’re doin it. We are cattle and deserve death, so says their Evil Book, so here we are.
October 29, 2024 at 11:55 pm #172895John DayParticipant@WES: I have no experience with hydrogenated water. I really have no insights, either.
Sorry.October 29, 2024 at 11:58 pm #172896D Benton SmithParticipant@CelticBiker
With a world view and attitude like that it makes me wonder why you bother to view the world or care about it one way or the other when you do.. Wouldn’t you be happier drinking or something? Why do you even bother to spread the cheer? Misery loves company? No dog to kick or wifey to disappoint?October 30, 2024 at 12:18 am #172897poppieParticipantAnd there we go. Our mathematically and logically illiterate troll drops back to insult only.
October 30, 2024 at 12:24 am #172898Maxwell QuestParticipantFor Tom Luongo and Duran fans. I’ve been checking Luongo’s blog almost every day only to find he’d gone radio silent for the last few weeks. Nothing.
Anyway, just stumbled on this and plan to spend the next couple of hours watching it:
October 30, 2024 at 12:49 am #172899OroborosParticipant -
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