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    Salvador Dali City of drawers – The Anthropomorphic Cabinet 1936   • Vaccine Effectiveness Hits as Low as Minus-66% in the Over 40s (DS) • Increa
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle October 4 2021]

    #89140
    Germ
    Participant

    Just sharing …. lots of good stuff.

    https://repurposedpills.com/

    #89141
    #89142
    Polder Dweller
    Participant
    #89145
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “When an Empire creates its own reality, the greater the distance from the real world, faster is its collapse.”

    Their sole power is in Bernays, the Madison Avenue protege of Goebbels. Bernays was the mad scientist creating this tech, where a small minority of technocratic elites would tell the masses what to think in a “democracy.” –Which is why we have one instead of a “Republic” that insures human rights. But like all societies over time, they’re lazy, stupid, and inbred, they forgot to read Bernays. He clearly said you cannot have propaganda that is overly divergent from reality, in men’s personal experience. The spell is broken. This crashes into the systems analysis that all beings expand until stopped, including bureaucracies. They steal a little at first, steer a little at first, and when it works add a small amount more tomorrow. Compounded 80 years and now $1.35 Trillion a night is not theft enough, there must be more. Ordering people to love me is not enough, we must order them to kill themselves from love and obedience to me. And so it goes.

    We’re now at 99% theft, 99% murder, and 99% lies. And people noticed, a little. That means their single tool of mind control is breaking, broken, as CNN is the size of the DesMoines Register, referred to only by self-referential weirdo cults in Congress.

    Obviously no law is legal unless approved by Congress and the President (or override) otherwise why have a Congress, but as I say daily, when was the last time anyone followed the law? I can tell you it’s illegal, and it will still be illegal if the USSC approves it.

    How do I put this? The law is what WE say it is, the People. It’s what WE do, and put up with and support. Not a sack of ninnyhammers far away. WE wrote that down, and if we don’t forget it, it remains the law and contract. And WE can always get it to return if like Ireland, we don’t forget and keep pushing for this Idea.

    Now if that Contract is void, THEY won’t like it much at all, because like Seattle, now WE don’t have to follow the law either, it’s merely what we can get away with. WE won’t provide obedience and open tax dollars. WE won’t help police, health officers, or be willing soldiers. WE will frag every person, place, or thing that isn’t US, but THEM. THEY don’t realize this yet, but the contract, the government is to protect THEM from US, the People, not the other way around. Because we have the guns, and the work, and the food, and the power, and have clobbered them dead in every domestic uprising war game ever run.

    Oct 15: this is their stiff, pointless, weirdo religion. This is how you know they’re not people, but minions, zealots of a religion, and dangerous. There is no “establishment of State Religion” in the Constitution.

    ““This is not driven by immigrants. This is a problem within our country, the same way it’s a problem within other countries throughout the world,”

    Why bother with logic, but, you mean the same as it’s a problem in Mexico, Guatemala and Haiti? Such that they have the same disease and therefore the same protocol of testing, masks, and quarantine? Nope! The ‘Rona is our god! The ‘Rona knows what race you are! And your economic and political affiliation!

    You can’t parody these people. To do that, there needs to be logic, rules, reality, #Logos. The people don’t notice because they’re in rebellion to #logic and #Logos themselves.

    “Israel Tightens Covid ‘Green Pass’ Rules, Sparking Protest (AP)”

    They’re lying about transmission in Israel among the fulled vaxxed. Because, in 5 days, you’re no longer “fully vaxxed” again, and need to buy more corporate product! QED. According to Israel’s rules, no one is “fully vaxxed” here in America either. Therefore it’s the unvaxxed’s fault that the vaxxed get the disease they’re vaxxed against, and transmit. …Oh wait…

    “ How Democray Ends (Prasad)

    The pandemic events of 2020-2021 outline a potential pathway for a future democratically elected President of the United States to systematically end democracy.”

    They told you and published this plan for 30+ years. Then we told you that THEY told you. And somehow WE were the crazy people. So to us, no surprise. Most predictable thing ever. And as above, all you have to do is say no, since YOU are the law, YOU are the government.

    …And here’s a new idea for you: YOU are the CURRENCY. Stop the US$ with whatever, BTC, Quatloos, and shut them off in 60 seconds. But people like complaining and being victims more than life and wealth, so what do you want from me? I already told you a 9-fold increase in net wealth since March ‘20. That would buy a lot of rural cabins and health lawyers, and 10x that many judges and Senators, they go cheap.

    If everybody did this, it would be over already, there’d be no functional government with power projection to come make a mess of your life. So get snappy. Or won’t you even cancel your Citigroup card?

    #89146
    deflationista
    Participant

    @phoenixvoice said:

    That is why medical studies undergo peer review. That is why they are labeled “preprint” before peer review. If anyone isn’t aware of the significance of peer review, then that person is ignorant. Ignorance happens.

    Well, here you go. Ignorance happens:

    “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and the claim that a repurposed medication miraculously both prevents and cures a fatal disease is quite extraordinary.

    On close scrutiny the in vitro data and clinical trials do not support the use of ivermectin, which is why no reputable organization recommends it. The story isn’t over as there are more clinical trials in progress, but based on what we know so far, it doesn’t look promising for this “miracle cure.””

    https://onepagericu.com/blog/debunking-ivermectin-a-complete-guide

    #89147

    def,

    That quote says exactly nothing at all, and you know that very well. Why waste the time and space?

    #89148
    Germ
    Participant

    “Fully vaccinated were more likely than unvaccinated persons to be infected by variants carrying mutations associated with decreased antibody neutralization”

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.19.21262139v1

    #89149
    Mr. House
    Participant

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/activists-harass-sens-sinema-manchin-over-35-trillion-budget-bill

    Is this any different then what occurred on Jan 6th? I think it may have the same people pulling the strings 😉

    #89150
    Germ
    Participant

    “Scientist Alleges Deception in NIH’s Non-Recommendation of Ivermectin”

    Scientist Alleges Deception in NIH’s Non-Recommendation of Ivermectin

    #89151
    Germ
    Participant

    “Is the Covid “vaccine” a Bioweapon?”

    Is the Covid “vaccine” a Bioweapon?

    #89152
    sumac.carol
    Participant

    Just listened to Germ’s cancer link.
    Surprise! Big pharma and their hand maids the blinded physicians (not you John Day) continuing the same business model with covid that they developed for cancer treatment! No need for deep dark conspiracy theories circling around covid – condemning ivermectin is just the usual $trategy.

    #89153
    deflationista
    Participant

    Raul-

    Maybe you should read the damn article that contains the quote? And then ask yourself why you keep pushing a certain narrative.

    Love,
    def

    #89154
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    CovFeFe = Hyperferritinemic Syndrome?

    COVID-19: THE HYPERFERRITINEMIC SYNDROME
    Walter M Chesnut

    Ferritin is double edged. It is both an inflammation promoter and an immunosuppressant. But, it needs a trigger for BOTH of its abilities to be engaged. That trigger is none other than the Spike Protein’s cytotoxic attack on virtually EVERYTHING due to its affinity for ACE2!

    It is said that the Devil’s greatest trick is getting mankind to believe he doesn’t exist. It is the WHO’s and the CDC’s greatest trick that they convinced mankind that SARS-CoV-2 is a natural virus. It is a bioweapon. In particular, the Spike Protein. Only something invented could so artfully, perfectly bridge the gap and induce BOTH a hyperinflammatory state and immunosuppression. The result? ARDS in the short term. AUTOIMMUNITY in the long run.

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1444803668553998339.html

    #89155
    Mr. House
    Participant

    @Docrobinson

    If that gentleman is a correct, then this seems much worse then covid:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catastrophic_antiphospholipid_syndrome

    #89156
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Mr. House: “…much worse then covid”

    Yes, a 50% mortality rate, although “rare.”

    #89157

    The future will not be televised.

    #89158

    Doc R

    Health freak @Mangan150 has referenced a lot of iron related things on Twitter. May be worth a look.

    #89159

    Raul-

    Maybe you should read the damn article that contains the quote? And then ask yourself why you keep pushing a certain narrative.

    You mean you’re bad at picking the right quotes? Or that I haven’t read 1000 “debunking IVM” articles?

    Who’s pushing a narrative?

    #89160
    sumac.carol
    Participant

    An unvaxed friend just posted that she lost her family physician (in Quebec) because the physician refused to be vaxed. Insane times.

    #89161
    John Day
    Participant

    “Normalcy Migration” There’s a picture, but just my face and some beans. https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/10/normalcy-migration.html

    When people think of Nazi Germany they typically think of 1939 to 1945, so when I liken the depersonalization of “the unvaccinated” in the west today, to how Jews and other minorities were treated under the Third Reich, I am taken to task.
    Today is more like 1932 than 1939, still pre-war, with the way forward not yet clear. The US is not Germany, and is not even the UK.
    Analogies can only be taken so far, but the process of depersonalizing a group of people, to blame them for things going bad, is a standard operating procedure.

    It has to become normal to blame the scapegoat group. Everybody has to know.
    It has to be common and accepted knowledge that this group made our current problems.
    It looks to me like this is still in beta testing with blaming the COVID-unvaccinated.

    The US government today is more like the floundering Weimar republic in 1932, with divisions, and lack of a clear, guiding vision for the country. In 1932 the Weimar Republic did not have a majority in government, but it had the largest minority. Close upon its heels were the National Socialists and the Communist Party.
    The national Socialists and Communists were in opposition, and considered a political alliance. They did align on some things. Positions were not too different to reconcile, and the Deutschmark was not yet into hyperinflation.

    With the ongoing global great depression, the Deutschmark, unmoored from gold by necessity, and based on a property bubble, started inflating away so rapidly that it was an economic crisis. People were desperate for a solution. The US is not there yet, but it looks like it is on the horizon. The world does not need to pay the US for dollars. Other global trade arrangements can be made. Dark-money trades move a lot of $100 bills around, and have for a long time, but gold works, and always has.

    Gold and physical cash working as currency is a problem for global central bankers. They probably have a much better idea of how much dark-commerce is going on than we do. They launder the drug-money, for instance. They would prefer a cut of every single transaction. What central bankers openly want is global digital currency, under their control, for every participant and for every transaction.
    The vaccine-passports are an opportune pathway into that for Central Banking. Blaming the unvaccinated enough for COVID to enact widespread digital vaccine passports looks like a concept that needs widespread acceptance as normal, for it to be the go-to solution in the upcoming reset. If the global digital currency function of vaccine-passports were in place when the global financial system collapsed, it could be built up as a solution.

    To me it seems that people don’t invent completely new solutions in a crisis. Rather, they press into service whatever they have that can be made to work.
    If cash and gold are eliminated, and only electronic transactions are possible, then global central bank digital currency can be made to look like the only alternative. Most people would prefer cash, which gives them autonomy, if they think about it.

    Most people don’t have to think about it much these days. Credit cards work.
    In a crisis, people do think a lot more about their options and how they can protect their options and defend their resources from further predation.

    Before the overt crisis of global economic reset, here in the partly-contrived crisis of COVID-Pandemic-Unending, we might give careful thought to our positions in society, to how much normalcy migration we should roll-over for and permit.

    I am not a victim, and I am sorry if I appeared to present my human experience recently in a way that made me seem that way, or seem as if I were putting on the identity-cloak of victimhood. I have intentionally decided to stand, immediately, with a scapegoated group, not least because I believe the group is right to resist conformity pressure, but because now is the time when a firm stance, before the onset of a real crisis, might be the most influential on the future course of society.

    If we resist the normalization of unfair scapegoating every time it is attempted, then we resist being divided against each other by the owners. When the crisis hits in earnest, they need us to be divided against each other, in order to maintain their positions of power and ownership over us and over the physical world and it’s life forms. I am able to stand firmly against vaccine-mandates and vaccine passports because the kids are all in their careers, we own the house in Yoakum, and have low taxes there, I have vegetable gardens, and we have been practicing different life patterns, growing, harvesting, storing and preparing food. We have modest retirement savings, no debts, and are about to get the attic insulation updated, the last major maintenance project on the homestead. The plumbing, electrical wiring, roofing, flooring, internal and external repair and paint have all been done, roughly in that order. It is a sturdy 1957 house, which has withstood every storm since then without appreciable damage.
    Jenny’s position as a school librarian does not appear threatened. We are able to subsist on her salary alone.

    I am doing everything I can to ease the transition of care for my patients at what began in 1970 as a free-clinic, and what is now a largish Federally Qualified Health Center. I may or may not be employable, and I have learned better than to think I could run a business long ago. It’s not my nature. The near future is in a fog bank. Things are not usually this way. We need to not run into an iceberg while we await the lifting of the fog, and the improvement of visibility.

    There is a lot that we can do each day which is productive and useful to ourselves and others. Much of it is really mundane, but it facilitates human repatterning, which is our own self-guided migration of normalcy. We can even choose to migrate towards historical normalcy. It might be a good start.

    This Saturday Jenny and I experimented with the new technique of shelling black-eyed peas, which Dan and I worked out last weekend on the dried black beans, which had been very slow going for hand shelling. We harvested about 6 five-gallon buckets in June, and managed to shell 3 of those since then.
    Some people stomp black beans on a threshing floor (messy). The most promising technique I found online was to put them in a burlap bag, beat it mercilessly, then pour the loose beans out of it.
    We experimented with that. The sharp black bean pods poked out through the burlap, spear-like. Wrong kind of burlap bag? The beans didn’t pour out so well, either, and the beating process seemed like we could do better. Dan started pounding the black bean pods in the 5 gallon bucket with an axe handle, not hard, just tap, tap, tapping. That seemed to be working pretty well. I did some hand mangling to loosen up remaining beans, and picked off a lot of the chaff from the top.
    Dan had dropped the axe head down by then, which seemed to work better-still. We processed all 3 buckets pretty quickly, while working this out, then poured the buckets into a clean wheelbarrow, across the brisk wind of a fan, which blew away the chaff. We cut our processing time to about 10-20%, which made it look ok to grow black beans again, though we will experiment with pinto beans next spring.

    The black-eyed peas did not respond well to the pounding-in-bucket technique. The pods seem to be more flexible, less dry and crispy. The “peas” don’t separate out easily that way, but they do separate out well by hand, just splitting the dry pod and stripping the (African) beans out with one’s fingers. The traditional way seems to be fairly efficient for low tech. Weevils mess with that. Old world beans are poorly defended against new world weevils. The wind-winnowing step works after hand shelling. They are a lot easier to hand shell than black beans are. Some pods shell easier than others. Some beans are bigger than others. Some varieties seem more resistant to weevils than others. One would desire large pods, with large beans, which shell easily, and are minimally susceptible to weevil damage.

    Jenny took this picture of me before dawn this morning with “Red Ripper” black-eyed peas and “Mississippi Pink Eye Purple Hull” field peas.
    It is late in the season to judge weevil susceptibility, having planted in July (gave up on Mackey Peas). Both kinds shell readily when dried. The Purple hull peas are much larger, so the same amount of shelling get more dried “peas”. They taste fine, but the smaller Red ripper “peas” have a nice, appealing nutty flavor.
    We will have to see how they do against weevils next summer.

    #89162
    robertmp
    Participant

    The Ivermectin Debate


    Swiss Policy Research has a recent updated discussion , along with a lengthy video. Interestingly the pro ivermectin advocate said nothing would change her mind.

    #89163
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Many narratives simply emerge without pushing.
    propaganda and advertising require pushing, otherwise they would be outcompeted into irrelevance

    #89164

    Facebook, WhatsApp, Instagram down

    #89165
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    I’m reading “how to hide an empire: a history of the greater United States”

    This quote seems relevant to what is going on today:

    Estimates for Native American population prior to arrival of European settlers varies from 720,000 to 15 million, while most estimates are in the 5 million range.

    By 1800, the indigenous population was closer to a half million, having endured what may have been a 90 percent decline.

    Also accomplished with “germs.”

    #89166

    Phoenix

    Read 1491 and 1493, Michael Mann?! In 1500, threre were as many people in the Americas as there were in Europe. Much more in those books. Must read.

    #89167

    Phoenix

    Read 1491 and 1493, Michael Mann?! In 1500, threre were as many people in the Americas as there were in Europe. Much more in those books. Must read.

    #89168
    John Day
    Participant

    @Noirette: Just noticed kind words from Friday. Thank You.
    I’m going to do a little gardening work at the clinic.
    Setting a good example…
    John-may-never-actually-catch-up

    #89169
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    Notice yet another link between Vitamin D and Covid.

    #89170
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    Still having trouble with posting images..

    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?get_gallerynr=11767

    #89173
    Figmund Sreud
    Participant

    lost her family physician (in Quebec)
    _________________

    Wait ‘til Oct. 15th, … more than 17,000 health care service will loose their job in Quebec. Yes!

    https://www.quebec.ca/en/health/health-issues/a-z/2019-coronavirus/progress-of-the-covid-19-vaccination/mandatory-vaccination-covid-19

    F.S.

    #89174

    This is from regular commenter UserZeroid, who appears to have been shut dow by our multi-layer spam defense. I have no idea why that happened, or how to solve it. But without it, all you would see here is penis enlargement ads. Can’t win

    UserZeroid: A rebuttal for ‘deflationista’

    “‘In vitro (meaning in glass, or in the glass) studies are performed with microorganisms, cells, or biological molecules outside their normal biological context”

    Why do ‘in vitro studies’? Because the empirical clinical studies prove that IVM does have a biokinetic effect, reducing mortality for individuals suffering from sars-covid2. You can attempt to use these ‘in vitro studies’ to deny the plausability that IVM helped these individuals in any meaningful way and suggest that it was the test subjects over-arching belief that IVM that worked that helped them. It doesn’t matter, either way, IVM worked. Not ‘in vitro’, but empirically, in real life. It doesn’t matter that the studies you cite argue against it.  

    If you are angry that some people are being conned about IVM but are apparently indifferent that world governments have locked us down for a pandemic that does not even qualify for the classic definition of said virus spreading the globe (over 7% mortality) and vaccines pushed against our will to the point of coercion, I’d say at the very least you were (brain damaged) ‘morally confused’

    “Orders of magnitude difference between IC50 and Cmax suggests that ivermectin cannot reach a high enough concentration to inhibit viral replication.” Who cares? This is in vitro. Pharmakinetically the mechanisms for biological effect do not take place ‘in stasis’ (in vitro). The body is a working organism with a finely tuned immune system. No matter how subtle a change may be at the inception or catalyst level, major changes can and do occur at the internal cellular level based up our intake of essential vitamins, minerals and bacteria (IVM is a bacteria, in case you weren’t paying attention).

    “A large observational trial by Surgisphere “…

    Is this the same surgisphere that was fraudulently set up to falsify hydroxy data early on in order to help push the vaccines? Just asking.

    “Surgisphere – also notable for fabricating data on a hydroxychloroquine” –

    ah well, at least they admitted as much in the next paragraph.

    Ok, then they debunked three retracted studies. Fair point (everyone seems to fabricate studies in covid-land, even the “vaxxines”. Who do you trust?)

    Then what follows is a dissection on “meta-analysis” with a focus on probability based medicine.  Who wrote this? Why bring up probability when medicine should be about evidence? And the use of ‘probability’ as risk analysis in medicine is limited to.. managing risk. It has a some basis in medicine. Not as much as the author is emphasising. As much relevance in hedge fund management, insurance salesmen, public events (and charlatanism, like the angle of this article falls into by default, by not critiquing ‘the only alternative’ left, by default, “the vaxxines’

    Then what follows this in this ‘thorough debunking of IVM’ is a dismissal of “epidemological studies”, which is about as clear cut empirical evidenced-based as you can get. So this article bases almost its entire premise on ‘in vitro’ studies (amongst “scholars” respected as it is repeatable, reliable and also almost totally devoid of the complexities of the living organisms’ immune system) and then debunks the most practical emperical evidence we have which is field studies and first-hand clinical practice?

    Back to the best bit of critical thinking in the whole piece. The dissection of the graphs showing correlation between the first wave of the virus and the lower wave as it fizzles out. 

    The author obviously feels very strongly about discrediting ivermectin and there is some room for interpretation that ivermectin is not as effective as we are led to believe or that regional variations and/or data collection had something to do with the results shown. All the same, so what? IVM has an extremely safe profile compared to ‘the vaxxines’. And about all those indian pharmaceutical companies getting rich selling 8 cent tablets of ivermectin to naive foreigners.. Wow. Not a peep about bioNtech, J&J, moderna and the other pharma lobby who have sold an equally insidious lie with much more lethal consequences at far, far greater profits. Meanwhile world governments have taken away or are in the process of taking away all our basic rights and freedoms within society.

    Why did I just waste 30 minutes of my life reading and critiquing something like this? Can’t you see Raul is busy fighting against genocidal mass murderers?

    No, perhaps not.

    #89176
    userzeroid
    Participant

    testing…

    grow 5 cm’s or your money back….

    😉

    #89177
    userzeroid
    Participant

    seems to work fine now Raul. Thanks

    Perhaps that was my seminal moment here

    #89178
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    Bravo userzoid! I’ve given up arguing with IVM-deniers, perhaps the only thing likely to convince them is an unhealthy dose of the ‘rona despite being double or triple jabbed, unless they’d prefer some intravenous Remdesevir.

    Instead of forever banging the “IVM don’t work” drum, why doesn’t deflat come up with something to prove that the jabs really are the best way to go? I asked him/her exactly that a few weeks back, but all I got was crickets.

    #89179
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    Re: Facebook, Instagram, Whatsapp outage:

    From what I’ve been reading thus far, it appears somebody let the domain name license go, but that could just be speculation.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/facebook-instagram-whatsapp-experience-global-outages

    My hunch though is the wider internet infrastructure may be beginning to collapse due to strains on the electric grid, or just overcomplexity (we could also speculate it’s a government hit to introduce more censorship, but that’s another thing entirely. My reasoning for this hunch is from Friday, where my area saw everything go down for about two hours, including internet, data networks for phones, and cell services. We have separate carriers for internet and phone service, so it seemed strange that all would go down at once (I hypothesized that our nearest cell tower about 1.5 miles away had failed to transmit or Alexa stealing bandwidth from our area). Could just be another instance of a highly complex society collapsing, and this is just the next leg down.

    Or maybe the government really doesn’t want more getting out, i.e., it’s their idea to censor in partnership with corporations.

    #89180
    userzeroid
    Participant

    Dank u wel Polder. Yeah, I really feel for good doctors, scientists, commentators (like Raul) and anybody with an original independent thought against this one-sided barrage of attacks and ad-hominems.

    They all talk of balanced viewpoints but i see nothing of the sort from their side. I think we have all been incredibly tolerant considering the level of societal suppression and repression. I think it is time to pick a side to some degree. Most of my dearest friends and family have taken the Vax. I attempted to inform them and respected their choice in the end. The freedom to choose with regards to our own bodily autonomy is everything.

    I outlined (just as you have) that you can hardly point the finger against others without justifying one’s own defense and position. Hear the other side’s story. That requires compassion, humility, reflection. As Peterson would say “Set your house in perfect order before you critiize the world”.

    #89181
    userzeroid
    Participant

    @CTBarnum

    I’ve often wondered if your handle was a reference to that remarkable businessman of Barnum and Bailey fame? I never forgot a story my dad told me of a sign that Barnum put up on the wall near the other exhibit notices once inside “50 cents Ingress”… Kids would ask for some money to “see the ingress” before being unceremoniously shown the exit via a lifted curtain. By then it was too late and they had to pay again to re-enter the amusement.

    I tried commenting here one week ago about the state of the UK (London) and what I saw on the roads due to the fuel shortage. My main message was something along the lines of “I didn’t expect things to break down so badly so quickly” I saw fights in petrol forecourts, abandoned cars with their doors wide open in the middle of the road in a mile long traffic jam. People rushing on foot to fill up Metal watering cans full of petrol, even plastic carrier bags. It was like something from a hollywood disaster movie.

    My thinking was something along the lines of “this will do great things for COP26” They are all flying up to Glasgow at the end of the month to preach about climate change, shortages of gas, oil and coal. They have a perfect backdrop with which to pain the perfect picture to suit their “narrative”.

    I’m reminded of that line from the onion movie where it says “The world was plunged into productivity when the internet shutdown today boosting the GDP and industrial output of the nation”

    #89182
    Formerly T-Bear
    Participant

    Keep up the spam defences by all means, otherwise you could be seeing an advert for ‘Briss Overnight Bag’, give them a couple, three loving strokes and a two suiter is yours. (smiley thing)

    #89183

    userzeroid- I betcha don’t get your money back. I bet they just send you a “booster” …y’know- ’cause you didn’t give it a long enough trial! 😉

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