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  • #51622

    Salvador Dali Back the girl 1926   It wouldn’t be the first time we ask ourselves what American journalism has come to, but that question sure ap
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    #51629
    boscohorowitz
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    “American Oversight” comes ickily close to Big Brother Is Watching… with the question of whom he is watching left to an individual’s bias. He’s watching the bad guys for our protection? Or he’s watching everyone for reasons he can neither confirm nor deny?

    We Do What We’re Told

    #51630

    bosco, I’ve asked it before, but please stop putting those links to nowhere here. links are fine if they’re about what you’re saying, and not if they’re not. I’m serious, I’ll start scrubbing them now

    #51631

    So I read this thing at the Guardian that says:

    In televised hearings, US officials have outlined what Democrats claim is Trump’s extensive abuse of power, among such behaviour the move to recall the ambassador, Marie Yovanovitch

    And I’m thinking: how can doing something that’s well in your powers be classified as an “extensive abuse of power”? How does that work? As Wikipedia explains -which is what I thought-: Ambassadors serve “at the pleasure of the President”, meaning they can be dismissed at any time.

    Sometimes I think maybe it’s me that’s losing it, but not this time. This is just bottom of the barrel “journalism”, aka propaganda. And if the Dems actually made that claim the way the Guardian reports it, they are mere propagandists too.

    #51632
    Dr. D
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    Yes, and that’s what I was saying about Twitter. Every 5 seconds, 24 hours a day, reporting such things with breathless intensity and great lack of reflection. Not sure how that works since I’m not susceptible to it, but reminds me of slot machines. Why are the flashing lights interesting and emotional? I don’t know, but all these companies pay millions to psychological experts, professors even, who for $10 will use their full force for real, true evil: Madison Avenue and Silicon Valley.

    However this works, that’s why, but addicts are not hard-boiled reporters, or thinking clearly, they’re just hustling for their next, low-class, humiliating, Pop. Later on when you’re not a crack whore, you look back on it in wonder, but at the time it all seems perfectly reasonable and not too bad. Hanging out with your friends, the true believers, fightin’ the Man.

    Don’t worry it too much. Time’s almost over. They’re getting to $700B repos fast, had to push crypto-trading volumes to 5x all coins ever mined every day to contain the price, and we’re not getting crops in and they can’t print food. So get an armchair and a book by the window like we used to, as there are more practical things afoot.

    #51633
    zerosum
    Participant

    “…. according to a cache of documents released on Friday. The state department released the documents to the group American Oversight in response to a freedom of information lawsuit…..”

    Notice to all leakers and whistle blowers Pay Attention- new procedure

    Get a lawyer to set up LLP
    Get your NEW organization to request the release of info
    threaten to start a lawsuit under the freedom of info
    this is better than using “witness protection”
    this is better than hiding behind the “source” for BBC, GUARDIAN, NBC

    #51634
    zerosum
    Participant

    ‘…. get an armchair and a book by the window like we used to,”
    PLUS A QUILT TO STAY WARM.

    #51639
    TonyPrep
    Participant

    Weren’t those documents part of what the impeachment inquiry was trying to get out of the administration? If the documents contain no incriminating evidence, why was the administration refusing to release them to the committee? Trump et al are not cooperating in the least and that, itself, must raise questions, surely?

    #51640
    VietnamVet
    Participant

    The Trump Bombshell is inexplicable unless there is really any Empire and an associated supra-national global corporate trading club that controls the media and has bought all of the politicians except for fringe nationalists and populists. The Trump Triumph diminished multi-national corporate control of Republicans to only Mitt Romney. The Bush Clinton dynasties died. The purposeful “siloing” of identity politics allowed the nationalists to succeed in the USA even though President Trump is isolated, alone, in the White House fighting the Empire’s bureaucracy. The thing is Joe Biden is utterly corrupt. He restarted the Cold War so his family could get a cut of the profits. Even if the façade of democracy is shattered in 2020s with the rebirth of a new Austerian Empire in the West compose of lots of little statelets like Scotland, it will be short lived. The black swan is honking. Without détente, a nuclear war with Russia or China is inevitable. Global debt is astronomical; $246.5 trillion. If not war, there will be unrest and an economic collapse.

    Only a populist government will legislate a debt jubilee to start all over again without the decline, lost wars and destruction that has always occurred to Empires in the past.

    #51641
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    bosco, I’ve asked it before, but please stop putting those links to nowhere here. links are fine if they’re about what you’re saying, and not if they’re not. I’m serious, I’ll start scrubbing them now

    Good! I for one am fed up with that crap!
    Thanks Ilargi…

    #51642
    rapier
    Participant

    Excuse me but I think Herr Goebbels said it better. I’ll summarize his and your position.

    These ineffectual parties with all their squabbling and laws are an abomination.
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    GOEBBELS ON THE REICHSTAG AND WHY THE NAZIS WANT SEATS THERE (1928)

    “We are an anti-parliamentarian party that for good reasons rejects the Weimar constitution and its republican institutions. We oppose a fake democracy that treats the intelligent and the foolish, the industrious and the lazy, in the same way. We see in the present system of majorities and organized irresponsibility the main cause of our steadily increasing miseries.

    So why do we want to be in the Reichstag?

    We enter the Reichstag to arm ourselves with the weapons of democracy. If democracy is foolish enough to give us free railway passes and salaries, that is its problem. It does not concern us. Any way of bringing about the revolution is fine by us.

    If we succeed in getting sixty or seventy of our party’s agitators and organizers elected to the various parliaments, the state itself will pay for our fighting organization. That is amusing and entertaining enough to be worth trying.

    Will we be corrupted by joining parliament? Not likely. Do you think us such miserable revolutionaries that you fear that the thick red carpets and the well-upholstered sleeping halls will make us forget our historical mission?

    Is our entry into the Reichstag the beginning of a compromise? Do you really think that we who have stood before you a hundred or a thousand times preaching faith in a new Germany, who have smilingly faced death dozens of times from the red mob, who have joined you in battling every form of resistance whether of official or nonofficial nature, who have bent before no command or terror, do you really think that we would lay down our weapons in exchange for a railroad pass?

    If we only wanted to become representatives, we would not be National Socialists, but German National Party members or Social Democrats. We do not beg for votes. We demand conviction, devotion, passion! A vote is only a tool for us as well as for you. We will march into the marble halls of parliament, bringing with us the revolutionary will of the broad masses from which we came, called by fate and forming fate. We do not want to join this pile of manure. We are coming to shovel it out.

    Do not believe that parliament is our goal. We have shown the enemy our nature from the podiums of our mass meetings and in the enormous demonstrations of our brown army. We will show it as well in the leaden atmosphere of parliament. We are coming neither as friends or neutrals. We come as enemies! As the wolf attacks the sheep, so come we. You are not among your friends any longer! You will not enjoy having us among you!”

    Goebbels on the Reichstag and why the Nazis want seats there (1928)

    #51643
    zerosum
    Participant

    Maybe this will be the final summary of the evidence that has been collected by all the different investigative reporters will finally make sense for you.
    If you need to have more than the 9 CNN experts to tell you that its has not been debunked then read the following before making up your mind and try to keep track of the actual witness and participant that were involved.

    Ukraine, Trump, Biden — The Real Story Behind “Ukrainegate”
    IN FOUR PARTS

    Eric Zuesse for The Saker Blog
    November 23, 2019

    Ukraine, Trump, Biden — The Real Story Behind “Ukrainegate” 


    ” ….this is what I have found, which U.S.-and-allied news-media have conspicuously been not only ignoring but blatantly contradicting — contradicting the facts that are being documented by the evidence that is presented here. Consequently, the links in this article prove the systematic lying by America’s press, regarding Ukrainegate…..”

    #51644
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    “Giuliani talked to Pompeo” may be a fact, but if you have no idea what they talked about, it’s a useless fact, that at most you can use to whip up more empty frenzy. And we know, it’s clickbait, and it sells papers and TV ads, but really, what are we watching, what has American journalism come to? What happened to finding evidence first, and reporting on it after?

    The U.S. press is for the most part, an embarrassment (to put it mildly).
    Fortunately I grew up with Walter Cronkite, Edward R. Morrow, and a host of other reporters, not the hacks, propagandists, and stenographers purporting to actually report the news these days.
    Maintaining an informed existence today is a genuine challenge; not to mention a bit of work as well.
    As I said before, I don’t usually get into the scrum; but am always thankfull for Ilargi’s hard work breaking it all down to easily digestable facts…

    #51645
    zerosum
    Participant

    OPS!
    Hold the press. There’s another report.

    Yes, Ukraine interference in the 2016 presidential election

    Meddling in the 2016 election by Ukrainian politicians and government agencies happened. The above is true and no amount of denial is going to change that.
    By Yasha Levine

    November 23, 2019

    Ukrainian nationals didn’t just meddle on their own, they also worked with Americans — including Ukrainian-American political operatives on the payroll of the Democratic Party. Not only did all this happen, it was written up as fact by establishment papers and outlets as varied as Yahoo, Politico, and the Financial Times in 2016 on the eve of the election.
    The principle actors openly talked and bragged about their exploits in the press. And why not? Back in 2016, no one thought that Trump would win the presidency. So why bother hiding it?

    #51646
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Salvador Dali Back the girl 1926

    I’m glad I clicked the painting and enlarged it; there was a third long curl off the right shoulder that I had missed.
    That’s quite an excellent painting of the woman’s hair; and in general.

    #51658
    Dr. D
    Participant

    I think Vet nailed it. Nothing makes sense unless the arc of what he’s saying is true. Cuomo’s stunt yesterday about “overhearing” a handset telephone (in a restaurant) failed and came out like Cheeto said: you can’t overhear (don’t they check these things off-camera?). Instead of saying, as journalists, “Well, I think we’ve learned something interesting”, they said, “Ermigerd! What are you doing??? Proving the truth is helping Trump! Stop! Stop!” …Which, yes, every day, but that was a good example. If you’re journalists and not political advocates, what would you care which way it goes?

    And since they know that, wouldn’t surprise me a bit if – should they finish placing their nuclear 1st strike in Ukraine and Cheeto gets out, Russia would nuke us on inauguration day of a Mitt Romney or Kamala Harris, because the Steady State is just that dangerous and won’t stop killing people by the millions. …As we see exactly in Ukraine, with all their policies – the ones they’ll remove the President to pursue – blind and based on a Russian threat that doesn’t exist, an expansionism that doesn’t exist, and a first strike that they don’t need.

    “US Is The Biggest Source Of Instability In The World,” Says Senior Chinese Diplomat”
    “Democrats Empower a Pack of Paranoid Neocon Morons”

    Democrats Empower a Pack of Paranoid Neocon Morons

    …You had me at “Neocon morons”… Of course that Not-Neocon-in-name-only, HRC promised she’d attack Russia and start WWIII, which is what they always had planned, ‘cause it solves the debt collapse we’ll all blame them for. Oh, and those uppity peasants, we’ll kill a lot of them too, drinking champers on the castle on the hill.

    I don’t know what you can say, Tony. Okay, to request documents, you need a premise, not a fishing expedition. That’s the 4th, or in this case, separation of powers. Congress doesn’t get into every memo in the Executive branch and micromanage it. Second, their suspicion is that one Trump official once talked to another Trump official? Like how does that make sense, or probable cause? No doubt they’ll release it because it’ll be hilarious like the last 500 accusations, but if you just say “yes” to all fishing expeditions, you’re not holding the Constitution and separation of powers, and more importantly can’t get anything done. …Which is the point, of course.

    So let’s flip it:since everything should be released instantly, why don’t we release all Biden’s stuff? I mean there we even have probable cause, with a dozen check stubs and sworn affidavits of national MP’s. Yet somehow an old random phone call is demandable and impeachable but sworn testimony of a foreign parliament isn’t?

    “GOEBBELS ON THE REICHSTAG”

    Ah, AntiFa couldn’t have said it any better, but their hero Alinsky said just that in his book decades ago, and his acolytes like HRC have demonstrably followed his strategy since then, with their zealots acting in and directing government to work against the people as we see in the news today.

    Because: “Yes, Ukraine Interference in the 2016 Presidential Election!”

    Which, duh, we all knew. However, since the CIA/MI6 Steady Staters set up their $5B totally illegal coup, and turned around to attack their own government at home…they then set the definition not for just some bureaucratic mishandling felonies, but LITERAL TREASON. Ah, if only they’d kept doing it from their London Embassy office like before, but the people were increasingly voting against them, and like Goebbels, needed a big, sharp push. We’ll see. No one’s ever been prosecuted before, but if not the CIA/Ukraine/Soros bloc will remove all U.S. democracy and murder all Trump’s family, as they’ve publicly promised, and as Biden said on T.V. just last night.

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