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Participant“I toulc have escaped”
Supposed to be ‘It could have escaped’, of course. I specialize in these kinds of typos cuz not only am I getting old age dyslexia, my right hand is dyslexic due to one of mny two forefinger tendons being rerouted to my thumb to replace a tendon that fell apart.
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ParticipantMy son in Seattle said that, as of 2 days ago, younguns were all over the beach at Lake Washington, crawling over each other, etc.
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Participant“At least 38 people have tested positive for coronavirus in New York City jails,”
Considering that most people stay far away from jails, I think that, even with our enormous prison population, this number of infected prisoners in one city shows that the virus is already much more widesprfead than people admit/realize.
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ParticipantRegarding the last article: as I read it, it assumes that viruses in labs don’t mutate outside designers’ prerogatives. Also, attempts to model evolutionary processes and/or create virtual digital forms of life (or life-y if you prefer) are already decades old. Using computer modeling methods would easily bypass human design bias (‘them spikes won’t work’) and show designers that an approach that looks unpromising at first but l;ater works well indeed.
I don’t know that I care much whether this thing was bioengineered or not, but it is quite possible that it is both bioengineered and naturally evolved. The prevailing view of the bioengineered hypothesizers is that it escaped. I toulc have escaped some time before the suspicious circumstantially evident dates the hypotheses cite, and found its own funky way to being an uncommonly sneaky virus.
Typoical conspiricay “theory” debunkers of 911 would say that secrets can’t be kept enough for such to happen. But they are all the time because the people are well and duly hypnotized.
However, the hypnotized are awoken when the terror used to corral them by fear doesn’t turn its combative opposition onto foreigners while we sleep comfy at night, but instead, turns on us, both biologically via viral transmission of pathogens and politically through government imposityions and transparent displays of malignant incompetence.
So I tend to think that if this thing were released intentionally, it’s the dumbest thing the wizards of Oz have done since Dubya said, “Heckuva job, Brownie.”
Did I already put my marlker down on the notion that if a foreign power decides to attack us in some way during our weakened pandemic state, it will be rolling blackouts of the internet. Make people talk to each other without media guidance. That is usually very bad for the government.
To do a cyber-attack on the grid would create an enormous war crime against humanity would likely lessen hatred of USA and possibly trigger some scary ballistic warfare. But to attack our hypno-screens would be a form of (what I shall call) negative soft power.
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Participant““One fist of iron, the other of steel
If the right one don’t get you, the left one will.”See? People like poetry what has a good beat that’s easy to dance to, especially when they’re singing involved.
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Participant“The candles in churches are out.
The lights have gone out in the sky.
Blow on the coal of the heart
And we’ll see by and by….”
Archibald Macleish, J.B., a play about the Book of Job in the BibleHate that, ppplz!
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Participantmy parents said know: writing poetry that rhymes in good vernacular meter without making it cheesy is difficult. Bravo.
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Participant“Bosco, your writing sometimes has a clarity that closes in on brilliance…love your self-description above…”
You obviously have bad taste. 😉
Who remembers this?
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Participant“Too much of the US population is overweight. Many have health issues and take meds that mess with the body’s system.:
Damn. That’s my wife to a T. Damn. On the other hand, I’d rather bury her than her me. I can take it. Don’t think she could. I have had her and I l;earning strict anti-contagion protocol for several days now primarily for the previously mentioned salve to our conscience: don’t get other people sick.
Now I’m glad for other reasons, like protecting her. I’m an invalid and can stay home, plus I’m a hermit. She goes to work everyday. Small office with no customer traffic and offices with closable doors and a decent enough social distancing policy in place.
Damn.
Love is amazing. Evolved from critters ruthlessly eating critters via group affinity survival pressure. It looks lovely in a lover’s eyes, and pretty good even in a casual stranger’s smile. Love…
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Participant“I also think Raul’s aggregate links are the best around.”
Agreed. HIs patience must be powerful to wade through this stuff daily. He asked a question a few days ago wondering if folks were tired of virus reportage. I say: no, but it might be good to start a few extrapolative trails exploring how the virus is affecting: supply lines, the usual economic concerns, stuff like that. Seems a natural next step while still focusing on the virus, a subject which hasn’t fatigued me yet because, despite haviong lived among the smelly yahoos all my life, I’m fond of homo sapiens and wish to know how to help them mitigate the mess they’re in, if only as an affectation to soothe my migrainatory conscience reeling from humanity’s effects on itself and Terran life after 500 years of fossil-fueled Enlightenment Era “progress”.
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ParticipantOf course the government will seek sweeping authorities. In fact, they have to. Doing so is what kept China from turning into a major graveyard. Unenlightened sociopaths naturally seek power, and unenlightened average citizens seek instructions and rules to follow (partly so they know where the fence is when they want to sneak out and bend/break some rules). A lady named Typhoid Mary comes to mind.
Even the most benign legal structures like, say, the Constitution, are steadily subverted into oppressive methods for greedy sociopathic boner-brains to get thier kicks off of. This is the story of history back to Genesis. The nice thing about absolutely draconian laws like indefinite detention is that you KNOW people are going to break them. KInda reminds me of this song:
If people aren’t told what to do after a lifetime of being told to do by parents, schools, TV/media, they won’t know what to do. Worse, they won’t know what rules to break and who to say, ‘You’re not the boss of me!’ as they wrestle over toilet paper.
There’s no other way. Never mind the socio’s power grab, that’s fundamental context for any human society of any size larger than tribal. Sadly, I don’t think our government has the smarts/guts to do even a poor imitation of, say, today’s communist party.
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Participantbtw, the malaria/antibiotic Rx has not been presented as a preventative or vaccine but as a therapy for the infected. It looks like it can radically reduce the mortality rate/severe symptomatic time. It can stop people from dying and reduce the time in which they’re icky scary sick. That is all.
The downside is that people may relax their quarantine rigor, which would not be good. Mr. SMug Owl had a chance to reassure people that Aunt Bessie might not have to die after all while also stressing that quarantine is still necessary, *especially* since we don’t have a zillion doses on hand and, yes, some testing is wise since we’ll be especially using it for children and frail elders, for whom side effects usually matter more.
Either way, I wouldn’t let the bastard lick my dog’s dick much less mine.
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ParticipantAs for ordering up a financially “large” (is ten billion a lot of money anymore?) order beforehand: why not? What have we got to lose throwing more funny money at it?
Time is still of the essence.
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ParticipantCost of living, in the standard $$ sense, is high right now. Many of those missing cellphones are probably just people who aren’t paying for services. Other sources cites closer to 20 million inactive former users.
“bosco, save your breath. It must indeed be tested for its actual effect on coronavirus. says not Fauci but the law. Good thing is it’s already proven not to be harmful to people. That will save 3/4+ of testing time, but it says nothing about coronavirus efficacy.”
I understand. But as a PR message to the people, spoken by a guy who looks like a smug owl, the guy’s a disaster, as witness my diatribe. You’re not telling me anything I don’t know about drug testing, Raul. Please, save your breath.
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ParticipantMost of the people here disparaged the Chinese for being part of China, which is seen too much as part of the Communist party rather than a 3K-plus arc of historical continental/ethnic identity.
They make us look like special ed kindergarten.
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Participant“But when it was Fauci’s turn to comment, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases director said that while he shared the president’s positive outlook, the drug still needs to be tested specifically for coronavirus efficacy — echoing FDA chief Stephen Hahn’s comments the day before.
“What we don’t know … is whether it’s safe. I like to prove things first,” Fauci said.”
from this article.
Safe? SAFE?!? It’s old as the hills, been used since Christ first got laid, scored extremely well in its first trial, and they want to wait until it’s safe? SOmeone drop a pallet of toilet paper on this miscreant licker of dog dicks.
But then, look at the guy:
There’s gonna be blood.
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ParticipantCall me confused, but I’m a tad surprised, and maybe worried, that today’s USA West Coast google news feed doesn’t have mention of the malarial drug/antibiotic therapy results. Call me crazy, but I’d thought the news would ricochet around the world as good news.
Seeing how Trump’s approval ratings have soared when any reasonable evaluation of his performance would want him out yesterday and someone comeptent, maybe the ghost of Bubbles the Chimp, in his place.
I’m a fine rational critical thinker. I can hold my own with the best of them for the most part. I am also a deeply emoptional person well in touch with a perhaps hyperactive creativity driven by intense sensitivity.
It gives me a blind spot between the two zones, and today seems to be in that blind spot. I rather dislike reflexive paranoia (‘the media is suppressing the news!) but it’s either that or the media is too stupid to recognize good news even when it has reported it. (does a general search, and sees that bubble passed through journalism’s perforated bowels several hours ago in major brand name news rags)
The coffee kicks in, and my brain says: ‘Sensationalism sells, you old goat. Major lockdowns and people holding toilet paper cargo cult deliverance seances are more interesting than the seemingly solid news that a simple old drug that one presumes is easily manufactured on broad scale in short order, can cut in half the recovery time and cure all but the very worst cases.
I don’t know if I shared this video before. I include it here primed to play during a comedy interlude that relates to the times well. Plus my son is one of the skaters, and the video is the best skatew vid I’ve seen: elegant, street-evocative, and some excellent “skate flow”:
Alex Cooper Makes Great Videos
SInce our robots are increasingly deranged or rebellious, the vid probably won’t open where it’s supposed to (“the majestic crane”), which is at 3:27.
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ParticipantPaper towels work fine if you let them soak soft in the toiler for an houir or two so they don’t clog, and use them sparingly. Hands work too if you wash afterward. Well, it’s twoo!
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ParticipantBusloads of bull:
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ParticipantClassic weirdo ripple effect:
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ParticipantVerizon Wireless just texted me that they’re here for me, and they’re ready. It gave me such courage. 😉
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ParticipantIt occurs to me that a major benefit of face masks is they prevent contact between hand and face when you involuntarily scratch your nose, etc.
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ParticipantThere’s a great respiratory help herbal tea called Breathe Right. Also one called Throat Coat. I deal with both issues chronically. They really help. They both have lots of liquorice. I’ve been awful to my lungs. Too much smoke, right? Stuff really makes a difference.
I wonder how long supplies will be on the shelves once the naturopathic media examines the herbal roots of this stuff. I better stock up. I’ve actually miraculously finally stopped putting smoke into my lungs but they still like some assist. It will be awhile before they clear out.
Stopping marijuana is maybe good since the virus seems able to throw an immune system’s punches back at it. Cytokine storms and shit. Good time for me to drink lots of good’oibal tay, blimey.
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Participantbtw, I believe I saw a Nature article… no, it was a Forbes article, attempting to refute the CORVID-19-was bioengineered-hypothesis. It did a poor job in real terms, but is an impressive piece of nuanced soft-spew bullshit that should fool most people including more Ph.Ds than not, I would think.
Hmmm Doc D could also stand for Doc Doctor. I like that.
Forbes Spinning Straw into Thin Air…
THis paragraph was decisively weak:
“In fact, the research team found that the SARS-CoV-2 structure in general is quite different from what humans would have likely concocted. If a human had wanted to create a viral weapon, he or she would have started with the structure of a virus that’s already known to cause illness in people. Naturally, if you want to make a weapon, you may want to start with something like a grenade launcher rather than a smoothie maker, not that the virus looks like either. Instead, the structure of SARS-CoV2 is quite similar to those of viruses known to infect bats and pangolins.”
As if a disease doesn’t combine plague with Ebola it can’t be a human-made weapon.
The medical paper he cites to refute bioengineering is anything but definitive.
I’ve been away too long. I hadn’t realized how many bright young things have gone to school to get a Communications Degree and are now writing “for the internet”.
As for the other Doctor Doctor, the Rich one:
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Participant“I assume your ‘not possible’ refers to my assertion the virus started in the US.”
Thank you, senor. My inferential sifter is unusually slopw today and I didn’t even begin to dare guessing.
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Participant“Not possible” refers to…? We’re readers of text not minds.
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ParticipantThe intro to the text linked above is telling:
“At some point, politicians will start to understand that only a major change – a big reset, as I call it – in our global monetary system can save it. This realization will probably occur around the time that they are no longer able to refinance their mountains of debt.”
The timing is certainly spot-on. I have this urge to haorsely bellow: “HURRICANE A-COMIN!”
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ParticipantI love watching Doc D’s very wide, broad, and rapid data analysis thingum work. Sometimes it gets tipsy on itself, which is par for high-speed complex machinery. Other days, it finds the predominant straight lines in a large field of related data and draws them out for easy examination. This is one of those days.
I’m not saying he’s got all those straight lines lined up. Doc tends to drive wildly on/off road as an omnivore analysts should, making daring leaps of conjecture (omigod, I feel like David Attenborough describing political wildlife) that often appear to contradict previous conjectures; but holding a wide field of variables in interactive suspense is how it’s done. Plus, such inevitable contradictions help keep one’s confirmation bias at bay, which we all struggle with. A bit of tripping over inconsistencies keeps one on one’s toes.
I thought I could sense a sense of satisfaction from the Doc, sort of a taraget acquisition radar ding.
Question: would the text below be good rerading for understanding and assessing the concept opf a monetary reset planned since 1981?
I’m asking for my invisible friend. His name is Plausibly Deniable.
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Participant“If I were going to be a conspiracy hypothesist”
THank you so much for using the proper term.
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ParticipantRegarding chloroquine:
“A third drug, widely used around the globe to fight the parasite that causes malaria, is also being tried in China to see if it can slow infection by preventing the virus from infiltrating cells.” Feb 13 2020
Perhaps this explains part of China’s apparent recovery from pandemia to mere epidemia and major reduction of cases.
Follows is from March 12th:
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Participant“I’m relatively confident this CV-19 was a weapon gone very, very wrong.”
ANd we’re very lucky. Both USA and Russia, last I knew, kept smallpox in their deep bug labs. Understand, this is by nations reared on Xtianity as their main mythology, demonstrating the aptness of the Garden of Eden myth. We’re too stupid to handle paradise.
“A monkey is a desire to be somewhere else.” I think that’s William Beebe.
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ParticipantPlease be forewarned. Follows is self-congratulatory. But it is also something like morally/spiritually uplifting in a manner reflecting on karma, so I’m covered.;)
Our bonus didn’t happen, or so my wife was convinced. All other corp depts. had been bonused out, now this virus thing was ahmmering, and he’s leveraged out pretty far growing his business.
So I made myself send Raul money before I could chicken out. Made myself send half again as much as I’d planned, cuz I enjoy excess, as some may have noticed. Put it in the mail around lunch. Around that time my wife was pleasantly surprised by a healthy bonus.
So, uh, what a good boy I am, eh?
Just call me Daddy Goodun and quote whatever karma/eye on the sparrow/there are no accidents New Age woo what pleases ye:
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ParticipantTO clarify my rushed bad syntax: “THey didn’t fly 300mph — Mach 2 at a daily population of 102 ,000 passenger airplanes.” means 102K passenger airplane flights every day, not 102K passengers.
“Depending on source, about 500,000 people are estimated to be up in the air at any given time. If the average length of a flight is two hours, that means six million people fly somewhere everyday. Nearly 0.1% of the entire world’s population.”
That 0.1% is still six million vectors carrying germs from here to there every day. If my UNcle Magnanimous offered me 0.1% of his 7.5 billion dollar fortune, I’d be delighted to receive six million dollars, especially if I got it every day. That would be 2 billion and 190 million dollars a year. Just to remind us that a little of an enormous lot is still a lot.
THe bug will spread regardless under such circumstances. Retarding the rate of spread is the goal of lockdown. Give the local med system’s time to deal with it, give research time to discern effective therapies… cuz if you vlet it spike of its own, you will indeed see horrific death counts as the med system breaks into pieces.
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Participant“Secretary of State Mike Pompeo will remember to bring the troops home to enforce the quarantine”
They already are. We’re getting our asses kicked out. We have no airpower security over there any more. And we suck at ground war.
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Participant“Democracy’s worst fault is that its leaders are likely to reflect the faults and virtues of their constituents.”
ROBERT A. HEINLEIN, Stranger in a Strange LandBut it’s a two-way reflection, and over time, we constituents resemble our parasitic leaders much more than we realize or, most of us, want to. We’ve voted, for the most part, when we bothered, for at best some cursorily inspected well-meaning dickhead, and at worst, the Lesser Evil. Like the wag said how you keep tossing millions and billions of dollars around, eventually you’re talking serious money, you keep for Lesser and Lesser Evil, it piles up to some serious evil by tacking back and forth across the partisan harbor (I should be sued for that metaphor) until it sinks of all that Lesser Evil.
Whereupon Worse Evil runs rampant.
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Participant“It’s not the virus nor proper epidemiological pre\vention/treatment”S FAULT that it’s happening to a world… blah blah”
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Participant“Yes quarantines make sense sometimes. When my parents were children, it was common to hang a sign that read “scarlet fever” in your window. They didn’t shut down the world.”
They didn’t drive 30-60mph30-60 miles per day miles all over everywhere. THey didn’t fly 300mph — Mach 2 at a daily population of 102 ,000 passenger airplanes. THewy didn’t hive in populations where a millions is a small city anymore, and 20 40 million is standard.
Bugs get around more than before by several orders of magnitude. Fear of government lockdown is misplaced. Fear of governmental collapse leading to wild lawless years during times of no plenty except plenty of less and less and less, seems more sound these days.
Sure, the governments will fuck it up. The people, I guarantee you, will fuck it up far more cuz they’ll practice that rarity: real egalitarian democracy, i.e., every person for themself.
P.S. Nothing will stop those other statistically larger death counts from happening. In fact, they will worsen due to med system incapacity by overload. It’s not the virus nor proper epidemiological pre\vention/treatment that it’s happening to a world that decided we’re supposed to spend all our time going everywhere eating everything, in which p[rocess we’ve blown an economic bubble/real resource depletion levels that only take a few weeks of in effect massive workers’ strike to collapse the thing.
Rotten is rotten, the system will fall now or later, and gubmints will go all out draconian while they can/while it works. Meanwhile, we can at least learn how to cooperate a bit. The 21st century Euromerican Way: alone in our little bubble cells. Hey, it’s a start.
btw, people with scarlet fever signs in their wondows KNEW they had scarlet fever. Most corona carriers don’t.
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ParticipantNo one else has posted this chestnut, that I can tell, so I’ll grab the pleasure of sharing:
Meanwhile, here’s a bit of high fighting spirit, the kind that carries some cheer with its gravitas:
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Participant“oh, and my parents, I now see, thank you too”
I think I know what this means but I’ll take the magical version: yes, my superpowers let people see their parents anytime anywhere. It’s a gift from the beyond. 😉
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ParticipantP.S. Raul, I know checking is way different in the EU. WOuld you prefer a money order? Or…? Sorry, I don’t do paypal. Not paranoia, just deep loathing of filling out forms online.
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