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I just cited when the word and the concept called socialism first came into parlance, R, to point out that capitalism(s) has/have been dominant longer than socialism(s) have been around. That’s all. What do you expect from a 15 year old girl anyway?
Me, I like socialism, whatever the fuck it supposedly is. I like the emphasis on ‘social’, which is the primary substance of any political system. I understand there’s a spectrum of not-entirely-capitalist economies, and that some of those non-entirely-capitalist approaches are loosely labeled ‘socialist’.
I also understand that none of these systems — cap, soc, com — have stood the test of enduring historical time and are all virtually in collapse because none of them adequately divorced themselves from virulent capitalism. Hence the vaccine metaphor. You do know the difference between a metaphor and a comprehensive definition?
It’s one thing to put words in a man’s mouth. That’s bad enough if sadly common. It’s another to put words in another man’s mouth and say he doesn’t even know what they mean. First you step in it, then you put your foot in your mouth. Why do you do that?
The problem with passive-aggression is that it ends in aggression. Me, I’m aggressive-passive. You can figure out the rest. Nothing personal my ass.
I’ll give my money away locally from now on and stick to reading Charles Hugh Smith.
The study concerns households and larger cloistered environments like schools, which few appear to be seriously considering reopening. The words ‘public’ and ‘outdoor’ appear zilch in the article.
Households/schools are contagion environments almost impossible to control, which is why nursing homes and hospitals are notorious places to catch a wicked bug, and why PPE is so adamantly demanded in healthcare facilities these days.
(My wife works in medical admin. Local major hospital sent letter explaing that further practitioner privileges in said hospital depended on passing a $25 test to ensure practitioners had masks and they passed some kind of proper fit test. Three days later, another letter said, Cancel that. Most likely because the insurance comapnies, who probably instigated the first letter, discovered that there are no guarantees with this stuff, and the legal wrecking ball could swing both ways in subsequent litigation. In such cases, bureaucracies prefer to stick with silence than stick their neck out. The requirement was reduced to ‘wear a mask’ and follow pre-established guidelines for dealing with previous bad bugs like MRSA, requirement my wife’s practitioners were also familiar with and performed often.)
The article is rife with statements like this: “Most studies were underpowered because of limited sample size, and some studies also reported suboptimal adherence in the face mask group.”
This I agree with: “Disposable medical masks (also known as surgical masks) are loose-fitting devices that were designed to be worn by medical personnel to protect accidental contamination of patient wounds, and to protect the wearer against splashes or sprays of bodily fluids (36). There is limited evidence for their effectiveness in preventing influenza virus transmission either when worn by the infected person for source control or when worn by uninfected persons to reduce exposure. Our systematic review found no significant effect of face masks on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza.”
I wear the nice home-sewn face masks, made by my wife, in public more to make everyone feel safe. As the numbers rise, I am switching to my own sockmask design, which actually fits snugly and doesn’t pressurise at critical junctures creating vent jets like all other masks do except some high-techs made with modern form-fitting materials (and are probably uncomfortable).
“We did not consider the use of respirators in the community.”
Respirators, while uncomfortable, work far better than a loose-fitting mask like 99% of the people wear. If we had a disease prevention program instead of Fauci’s Farce, we’d have a zillion of ’em pre-made and arrangements to convert factories overnight to produce a gazillion bazillion more in short order. THat issue is separate from What Is Known to Work and What Isn’t or Doesn’t.
“In this review, we did not find evidence to support a protective effect of personal protective measures or environmental measures in reducing influenza transmission.”
Neither did I find in this review a basis to conclude that PPE Doesn’t Work.
Someday, maybe, we’ll be able to distinguish politics from epidemiology, although the similarity from harmful pandemical pathogens, and electoral republican democracy is rather striking.
Certain fetishist and probably many Islamically raised males should like this:
As for capitalism vs socialism, etc.: since I’ve compared pathogens to politics, I’ll note that capitalism is a slow-moving virus that very gradually infects the whole populace asymptomatically relative to nasty pathogens like Ebola, they produce in time more total devastation than any other system outside of despotic tyranny.
Which is what capitalism has turned into long before socialism as even coined as a word (early 1800s).
“Socialism emerged as a response to the expanding capitalist system. It presented an alternative, aimed at improving the lot of the working class and creating a more egalitarian society. In its emphasis on public ownership of the means of production, socialism contrasted sharply with capitalism, which is based around a free market system and private ownership.”
Socialism and communism are failed vaccine attempts to curb the destructive and impoverishing tendencies of capitalism, a cancer that is the other opiate of the masses, and feels good until it doesn’t, whereupon it then feels very bad.
My son the skater lives in downtown Seattle. I sent him this letter just now:
BLM made you want to help. Here’s a way to help: a large part of the Capitol Hill thing population was homeless people who enjoyed a space where cops didn’t hassle them and good food was reliably available.
Now that the cops have chased BLM out, the homeless are most likely taking the worst of it. The cops will surely use this as an excuse to harass them elsewhere. Not too far, just away from the de-re-militarized zone 😉 .
You could make up a buncha sandwiches, including lettuce, toms, etc. — these people rarely get fresh veggies/fruit, and hand them out. Also, sani-wipes. Tampons for the ladies. $30 and an afternoon’s skating around the area would make a lot of outcast people surprisingly happy, although the expressions of gratitude you’ll receive will range from tearful thanx to shove-off grunts. People living exposed like that to both the elements and the sordid social facts of our culture, tend to become emotionally calloused.
Media/culture tells us it has to be big to make a difference. This is, imo, partly because that makes easier targets for them to manipulate or even destroy. LIfe is composed of little things. The personal and singular is powerful, very powerful. It’s where all the real action happens.
Best to bring a buddy with you. The homeless are mostly harmless and mostly good if fractured people. But sometimes there’s a serious paraschizo, someone like that, and they are hell to deal with alone.
And of course, skateboards make great weapons/shields.
But that’s just precaution. The biggest danger from the homeless are fleas and disease.
One wonders: bug out to where?
Any survival primer that tells me to not help others reminds me of why I don’t read survival primers. I get the rationale, particularly regarding mob midst-dom (that portmanteau went too far, jah?). But death already has my number, one day is as good a day to die as another, and our selfish genes steadily conquer our humanity by this divide’n’survive thing that got us into this mess in the first place. I submit that, in such times, there is more worth dying for than living for. I don’t mean as in suicidal escape but as rreasons to continue living, period.
Genetically, it sucks. The most cooperative and caring typically get taken out first while the more selfish and callous win the spoils. But genes are mindless drones. The will to survive foremost is, for this bleeding heart, where the currency of life experiences moral deflation.
Reminds me of the ending to William Gibson’ short story, Dogfight:
“A little adrenaline would pull him out of this. He needed to celebrate. To get drunk or stoned and talk it up, going over the victory time and again, contradicting himself, making up details, laughing and bragging. A starry old night like this called for big talk.
“But standing there with all of Jackman’s silent and vast and empty around him, he realized suddenly that he had nobody left to tell it to.
“Nobody at all.”
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I think BLM is neither a sack of shit nor a sack of gold. It is the usual mixture of both. SOme brave bright kind people in BLM and some other types including chickenshit pedantic callous people.
Like any group. Like any church I’ve seen. LIke any town council meeting I’ve attended. Like high school. KIndergarten.
Like my old man said, “You get that many dogs together there’s bound to be a son of a boitch in there.”
BLM is a label. The thing it labels is manifold, various, overt, and covert.
“In this particular sense, there’s no fundamental difference between someone like Julian Assange and someone like Eckhart Tolle. You might object that one of these men is in prison and the other is enjoying what appears to be a fairly cushy and unmolested life, but there’s a reason for that: our rulers don’t understand just how threatening the expansion of inner consciousness is to their empire. If they did, old Eckhart would be rotting in a prison cell just like Julian.
“Sociopaths don’t understand the inner dimensions. They don’t really have the cognitive software for it. They have an acute understanding of how to manipulate language and information in order to get what they want, but the notion of honest introspection with the goal of truth for truth’s sake is wholly alien for them. Someone who sees the world as a field of potential assets to be exploited will never think to look inside themselves and consider how they might be misinterpreting reality, but they will see attempts to interfere with their toxic agendas in the world as direct threats to their ability to get what they want. Which is why Julian Assange is in prison and Eckhart Tolle is not.”
I love Caitlin.
SIlly naive hopeful me (I still smoke hope) wonders if this will produce some cross-spectrum solidarity between left and right activists.
Hope for what? Not for some kind of revolution leading to a Better Way. I guess just hope for a moment of group quasi-sanity.
I’m experiencing hope inflation: so much hope, so little left to hope for. For me, it’s no longer the thing hoped for so much as the exercise of hope itself.
GHive this man the Fukuyama Award:
“Following Al Qaeda’s attacks on the United States on September 11, 2001, and the United States’ subsequent inconclusive wars in Afghanistan (2001–present) and Iraq (2003–2011), initiated by US President George W. Bush, Professor Gary Weaver and his co-author Adam Mendelson, writing in 2008, cited a survey of 109 historians, 99% of whom rated Bush a “failure” as president, two-thirds rating him the “worst ever”. Weaver and Mendelson wrote that the United States had been in its “childhood” before 1898; in its “adolescence”, 1898–1945; in “young adulthood”, 1945–1991; in “adulthood”, 1991–2001. Weaver and Mendelson, from their 2008 perspective, anticipated that the traumas of the George W. Bush presidency would “season [the United States] with new strength, wisdom and maturity”, enabling it to move forward from this political midlife crisis.[page needed]”
New strength, wisdom, and maturity. Uh-huh.
It’s like a chart for the essentials of what we’re watching and fearing:
I wonder how this might fit, metaphorically speaking, today’s general culture:
“Possible mechanisms for this behavior include Hamilton’s selfish herd theory, neighbor copying, or the byproduct of communication by social animals or runaway positive feedback.
Characteristics of escape panic include:
Individuals attempt to move faster than normal.
Interactions between individuals become physical.
Exits become arched and clogged.
Escape is slowed by fallen individuals serving as obstacles.
Individuals display a tendency towards mass or copied behavior.
Alternative or less used exits are overlooked.”
I think zerosum wrote that wiki. 😉
PLus ca change:
“W. R. Anderson in his column Round About Radio, published in London 1945, where he wrote: The simple truth is that you can get away with anything, in government. That covers almost all the evils of the time. Once in, nobody, apparently, can turn you out. The People, as ever (I spell it “Sheeple”), will stand anything.”
from wiki article on etymology of sheeple
I’m a hermit. Scheduled auto maintenance made me leave the house. Alone. Without my wife. Very dangerous for everyone. Oh, I can drive. But I’m the social equivalent of a coyote in a suburban cul de sac trying to find its way out.
Wise-cracking with the service tech about our masks and other quarantinoid artifacts, he soon displayed a savvy perspective on the basic covid situation. He knew the numbers were going through the roof, that we’d blown our shot at preventing a pandemic, that our leadership, local, federal, and global, had failed us miserably.
Walked outside. Old town Beaverton. Old school bar, surprisingly unyuppified unti you look close and realize that the neo-yuppy Mills and Genzers were getting pretty good at convincing retro decor. Including genuine old school lonely sots drinking beer alone at 10am.
Everywhere else, people wore masks.
Not inside the bar. I saw 4 people. No masks. Alcohol apparently does kill brain cells. Still, a tiny transgressive part of me cheered, because bars have always been zones of rebellion, and rebellion is my favorite conformity.
While the Portland and Seattle metro areas seem to have begun their covid cycles with a milder version than, say, NYC, we also had (iirc) the first reported USA case of a young healthy person dying of covid.
It rains alla time here. Oh, it’s nice, sun comes out every few hours, the rain is mostly gentle, the temperatures mild.
But we don’t get much sunlight vitamin D. I think that when covid really get its roll on here, we’ll see a lot more people getting really sick who are not compromised by other malign conditions.
“soldiers… are also becoming less-than-peasants”
As opposed to their former mere peasant status, that is. Anyone who works for Pharaoh gets the shaft unless they can ingratiate themselves to the inner circle.
“The paradox exists, observes Perelman, because of the circular logic of capitalism. Economists argue that farmworkers earn low wages because they are not highly “productive”; that is, collectively, they generate low profit per worker. But that’s because everyday food sells cheap, and it’s cheap largely because many of those who produce it earn near-starvation wages.”
Food grows in supermarkets. I pick food there all the time. Thew wages are so bad I have to pay them to let me pick food.
Underneath all this is the fact that, ever since humanity learned to create reliable food surplus, organized violence, gang warfare, has been the most “profotable” human activity: steal the other guy’s surplus through coercion or the threat thereof.
The people who produce this surplus are less-than-peasants.
Now that science has produced a reliable surplus of advanced kill-tech, soldiers (except mercenaries, who market themselves at high prices to exploit opportunities/fill troop shortages critical to moving violence-based profits forward) are also becoming less-than-peasants:
“The butterfly swarm of American flags spawned from the ruins of 911 has since metamorphosed backwards into the larvae of yellow Support Our Troops ribbon magnets. By 2010 they will rehatch into homeless veterans holding Anything Helps-God Bless signs, but today, May 19th, 2004, USA flags made in China are still prominent in tiny Beaujolais Flatts, flapping like applause for the pretty ladies who, smiling in the face of an aggressive paparazzi wind like Marilynn Monroe, struggle to hold down their light summer dresses frisking naughtily like unruly puppies jumping to be picked up.”
from this damn novel that is somehow being completed despite my wastrel ways.
JohnD: I just hum along with the words. Only Zappa song whose words stay with me are those to Camarillo Brillo, that strangely rhapsodic (listen to the guitar work) ode to hippy sleaze. Oh, and some of I Am the Slime and The Torture Never Stops.
from The BIggest Myth article above
“And you’re an agricultural economy, so food prices spiral out of control. You’re trying to import food, you get hyperinflation. ”
We’re a petro-economy, and shale oil is a joke, one whose punchline went stale awhile back. We can no longer militarily coerce other nations to continue the petrodollar system that lets us afford foreign oil; so as soon as the other nations find a way to remove themselves from that system, we’ll have hyperinflation.
But yes, for now, we could print enough money for everyone to practice a nationw-wide lockdown and get this virus thing under control (in this case, ‘virus thing’ means both the covid pathogen and our out-of-control gov/corp-controlled media (yes, that’s a verbal paradox, Mr. Chesterton; now, back to your grave, sir: you dead) and not experience hyperinflation.
But we haven’t, and so we now move toward increasing poverty and its attendant civil unrest.
“he Seattle Times, however, found “little sign of an imminent exodus” from the park, adding that “many campers appear to have come less for the protest than for the offer of regular meals and a place to pitch a tent””
from the wiki on CHOP, the temporary autonomy zone protestors set up in Seattle.
The homeless are a critical element in all this.
If you’re from Portland/Seattle, you know that the downtowns of both were already de facto occupied by homeless people camping in tents on the sidewalk. Lots and lots of them. The very numbers point to the constabulary/city admin being poverwhelmed by the homeless problem, much of it migrants from other cities that are nastier to the disenfranchised than around these parts.
These downtown campers represent only a small part of the entire homeless population, most of it forced to camp on the no man’s land between the freeways and the streets.
While we ridicule/applaud the proclaimed reasons for these spontaneous gatherings (and they’re spontaneous whether or not they coordinate/are misinformed-inflamed via media), the underlying reason is simple: the rent’s too goddam high, the jobs are increasingly totalitarian shit-cropping “gigs”, and, well, the system’s crashing, period.
A system that is crashing under its own degenerate weight should expect to get some “help” in its destruction by those whose lives have already been destroyed by said system.
As for the cellphone study that says people voluntarily chose to exert various degrees of self-quarantine: chose is not a misleading word. The fact that our media offer misleading tripe in place of honest accurate reportage does not remove the element of choice in these people’s actions. They were not legally or otherwise coerced. They did indeed make their own choices, however misinformedly or otherwise… (beginning with a comedic run to stock up on toilet paper).
If we can’t even maintain the distinction between coercion and self-choice, we might as well give up discussing world affairs and instead, become a philosophy forum in which 15-yr old girls throw names like Kant and Wittgenstein around.
I can handle nuclear energy. It can be done properly, and our energy diet will require aid to prevent too fast a drawdown and the attendant violence, including the prospect of nuclear war, but yes, Shellberger smacks of selloutism all around. For allI know they’re making offers you can’t refuse these days.
Yo, oxy: if you email email@example.com (hello snoopbots) and give me a mailing address, I’d love to send you some scratch. Not much cuz we’re not so flush anymore, but we’re far from hurting.
Don’t be shy. There’s a time to give and a time to receive.
Lester Young invented the expression, “dough”, as I understand it.
“The Strategies of Dementia Politics”
A headline I just saw. It resonates on so many levels.
“I get intellectualization-as-defense-mechanism-against-cognitive-dissonance.”
To borrow a very old Woody Allen punchline: “Now you’re messing with my hobby.”
” Just using less than we are used to is the adaptive path into the future.”
That’s the recipe for everything, period. The Era of Astronomically Excessive Gluttony is over. Monoculture — food crops, trees, dental floss plantations — is over. We CAN harvest wood in large amounts from forests, but not so… “efficiently” aka maximum massive rapid production/harvest. I wasn’t limiting my thoughts on firewood to gathering squawwood, although I foresee that being a major activity in not too many years.
“Texas Governor Abbot ordered bars (therefore strip-clubs, too) to close last Friday, due to rapidly increasing COVID cases.”
Strippers wearing face masks just cracks me up.
Y’all know this one. Sing along time!
‘the mid-29th century’
I was there. Where were you?
While it is true that our No Forest Fires Tolerated policy of most of the mid-29th century is part of the process, so is the fact that we took down all the old growth and replaced it with a ‘just big enough to be worth harvesting’ culture, and gobs of little trees burn faster and wilder than not so many massive old trees.
It is not so easy to set an adult redwood on fire. That said, this guy said this. Bur his blog has ‘green’ in its title s of course he must be lying or at least misinformed, right?
I dyslexicated. I fix a sentence from above:
“but to keep a home warm and have some hot water for a bath 2-3 times a week and process harvest/cook food regime, wood in the right combustion chambers/heat sink/release infrastructure is far better than massive power plants…”
““Wood fuel is far worse for people and wildlife than fossil fuels”.”
Depends on infrastructure and application. Using wood to run a power grid is probably mighty bad (but probably no worse than coal), but to keep a home warm and have some hot water for a bath 2-3 times a week, wood in the right combustion chambers/heat sink/release infrastructure, and process harvest/cook food regime, is far better than massive power plants, a zillion cars, and the insane production/distribution system we’ve come to rely on.
Even if we had fusion power too clean to meter, the essentials of entropy/waste would be daunting to keep reasonably balanced with 7.7 billion people living amid chronic politically psychopathic insanity in a culture based on narcissistic pandering to greed and ego.
Hey, Raul, ‘splain yourself, pls. I’m all for jokes at my expense… if I get the rationale. As it is, I just feel insulted. Either I’m dense or you need to hire a new joke writer.
“Also – I’m a bit peeved over intellectuals, academics and book writers generally right this second. I have planted thousands of trees over the last few years because I wasn’t on a computer arguing about the environment and climate change.”
My Hero for the Day.
Have some pretentious early progressive rock on me:
“Did you notice, the belt buckle cannot work.”
THe clasp would have to catch on the right, right?
Awesome shot of you two.
What is it with us old men and our eyebrows?
No image of dust-enhanced sunset, JD.
Fried okra and black-eyed peas. Mmmmm….
Something smells good. I think Raul’s cooking, too.
The Tuskegee Syndrome in Russian covid viral research:
Ethical Issues (Per norm everywhere, really, and way better than making monkeys suffer for tresearch that will never benefit and only harm them.)
While I’m not holding my breath for a vaccine answer, I think it would be SO amusing if Enemy # 1 was the hero in this matter.
We have a race war, a gender war, a brand name political ideology lite war, an Islam vs JudeoChristianity war, a trade war with the China bloc, a surreal imaginary border conflict with Mexico, a butt-hurt Xtian right and a witch-hunting left high on borrowed sanctimony… and the ad-to-content ratio in our media is raising the price of bored attention to major inflationary levels even though they no longer pay the bills unless you run gladiator shows and outrage festivals like the All-Trump All-day policy of most major news platforms.
Are the times interesting yet?
Roto: I believe the internet is an illusion. Not to mention that Paul is dead, the moon landing was a hoax, and George Washington could not tell a lie. I read it on the internet.
I have proof.
One can’t argue against the rhythmic logic of Phil Collins<>Mark Brzezicki. And all the Big Hair clinches it.
Interestingly, my wife took this photo of me yesterday to model an apron she made for a friend.
Maybe I don’t like me as a 15-yr old girl that much after all.
This, rather than dramatic death counts, may define covid’s most significant impact as the tsunami begins slowly but inexorably spreading inland.
How HCQ factors into this is no longer a medical question so much as a political question. One wonders if it won’t be the political straw that breaks the duopoly’s back… and restore Trump’s election prospects and that smug grin that means he’s happy.
Maybe it’s metaxa. I got drunk on Metaxa in what was then Little Greece on Chicago’s NW side and realized that Greeks are tough motherfuckers. That shit will sure smack you down.
I’m kind of liking the image of myself as a 15-year old girl, actually. Makes me want to take advantage of myself.
Sadly, z, my sense of smell is growing stronger as the Portland area moisture gradually heals, as much as possible, the trauma done to my nasal capillaries after about 15 cauteries to stop whacko chronic nosebleeds. Every day I smell something I hadn’t smelt in a long time, and it usually is the funkier kind.
I’m neither for nor against Trump, per se, but am very intrigued by how his NPD is currently kicking his ass in response (or so I see it) to his disappointing reentry into the election campaign sphere. He did it to himself with covid, and I knew he would from the gitgo (respect my prophecy!!!!)…
… because he’s entirely political, a hierarchy jockey with no capacity for dealing with actual reality, and covid is real not political, whatever motivation may lie behind its ionitial release into living human tissue. But he’s running against a man who makes a ventriloquist dummy look lively and sound articulate, and I suspect he’ll find some footing ere long and will resume the ardurous climb to an approval platform his ego can live with.
I’m pretty sure he feels horribly betrayed. He should expect betrayal since his loyalty is ephemeral for the most part (he seems to stand by his children) but that’s not how an NPD thinks. So I see his bruised expressions from the past few days and kinda feel for him, you know? He is what he is.
My spidey sense quivers toward something lateral, precessional, unexpected or at least misunderstood and underestimated, either born from the predictably unsettled election results come November or heading it off beforehand as covid goes nuttier with each month.
Let’s be glad they’re still just moments, z. 😉