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  • in reply to: Debt Rattle August 11 2021 #83336
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    As more people get vaccinated, then it is expected that the fewer people would get the virus.
    The people that would get the virus would not be the vaccinated people.

    An AI would crash, “data does not compute” with expectations.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 11 2021 #83310
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    Another book idea
    Civil war – USA Style

    Drugs – pain killers

    Inflation – Southern border invasion

    Gun battle – 06 jan inquiry

    Arrest Warrants Issued For 52 ‘Fugitive’ Democrats After Texas Supreme Court Slaps Down Democrat Judge

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 11 2021 #83309
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    Book writing ideas from TAE

    Unintended Consequences

    suppress any dissent or discussion.

    highly protective against infection

    risk reduction against breakthrough infection

    lack proficiency

    chronic failure

    the real clinical trials are occurring only now—on a massive scale

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    (ADE) antibody dependent enhancement

    ADE occurs when the antibodies generated during an immune response recognize and bind to a pathogen, but they are unable to prevent infection.

    The ADE of virus infection is a phenomenon in which virus-specific antibodies enhance the entry of virus, and in some cases the replication of virus

    ADE caused by enhanced viral replication has been observed for other viruses that infect macrophages, including dengue virus

    ADE of disease cannot be reliably predicted after either vaccination or treatment with antibodies

    ADE is when a disease is made worse or more severe in a person who was already exposed to the virus through a previous infection or vaccination (? seniors – flue shots ?)
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    face trial in the US on charges of conspiracy to obtain and disclose national defence war/killing/covid information.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 10 2021 #83212
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    Peter Schiff: Let The Free Market “Build Back Better”
    “We want the economy to run itself. The reality is politicians for centuries have promised to build back better. But the best way to build is to have the free market do it.”
    hahahaha
    Senate Passes $1.2T Infrastructure Package

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 10 2021 #83210
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    100% have been immunized with two vaccines.
    Explanations for the outbreaks do not compute.

    https://bc.ctvnews.ca/covid-19-outbreak-declared-at-metro-vancouver-care-home-as-cases-rise-in-b-c-1.5541310
    COVID-19 outbreak declared at Metro Vancouver care home as cases rise in B.C.
    Published Tuesday, August 10, 2021

    VANCOUVER — A Metro Vancouver long-term care home declared a COVID-19 outbreak after two people connected to the facility tested positive.

    Fraser Health announced the outbreak in a statement Monday, saying a resident and a staff member at KinVillage in South Delta tested positive for the disease.

    While the facility also operates assisted living, independent living and seniors supportive housing services, the health authority said the outbreak is only in the long-term care building.
    “Fraser Health has worked with the site to support the implementation of enhanced control measures,” a statement from the health authority said.

    “Fraser Health is also working with the site to identify anyone who may have been exposed, and is taking steps to protect the health of all staff, residents and families.”

    Outbreaks in care homes dwindled in recent months as vaccination rates increased and case counts fell across the province. However, as case counts have started to rise again, so have the number of outbreaks. As of Monday, there were six other outbreaks in long-term care homes in B.C.

    Those outbreaks were in:

    Holyrood Manor
    Nelson Jubilee Manor
    Kootenay Street Village
    Cottonwoods Care Centre
    Brookhaven Care Centre
    Discovery Harbour
    Four of the seven active outbreaks are in the Interior Health region, which has seen a recent spike in COVID-19 cases.

    Addressing the outbreak at KinVillage, Fraser Health said visits are restricted in the facility, cleaning and infection control measures are enhanced and movement of staff and residents is restricted.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 10 2021 #83168
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    THE 3 MONKEYS
    ZEROSUME – CON21 TO CON26
    WRONG GOALS
    LIFE HAS ALWAYS ADAPTED AND WILL ADAPT AND CONTINUES

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_longest-living_organisms

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 9 2021 #83026
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    Work smarter, not harder.
    ( Let/get someone else do it)

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 9 2021 #83025
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    Wild fires, world wide, are increasing the density of homeless people living under the overpass.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 9 2021 #83024
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    What does Iran think of the “booster shot”

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/report-14-israelis-have-caught-covid-19-despite-receiving-booster-shot/

    Report: 14 Israelis have caught COVID-19 despite receiving booster shot
    8 August 2021,

    The network says 11 of those infected are over the age of 60 — two of whom have now been hospitalized — while the other three got their third dose because they are immunocompromised.
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    What does the USA think of India’s success?

    • Prophylactic Role of Ivermectin in SARS-CoV-2 Infection (Cureus)
    Conclusion
    Two doses of oral ivermectin (300 µg/kg/dose given 72 hours apart) as chemoprophylaxis among HCWs reduced the risk of COVID-19 infection by 83% in the following month. Safe, effective, and low-cost chemoprophylaxis has relevance in the containment of pandemic alongside vaccine.
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    What does CNN think of the survivability of Trump who has natural immunity?

    • Covid-19 Survivors May Possess Wide-ranging Resistance To The Disease (Emory)
    The study suggests that patients who survived COVID-19 are likely to also possess protective immunity even against some SARS-CoV-2 variants.
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    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 8 2021 #82901
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    Must read and evaluate your beliefs
    A precise paintbrush.

    https://www.theburningplatform.com/2021/08/07/trust-the-science-4/
    The Burning Platform Merch
    TRUST THE SCIENCE?

    August 7, 2021

    “Fauci, Walensky, Biden, Pasaki and the rest of the Biden apparatchiks are liars, frauds, and fear mongering whores for Big Pharma. Fauci is the father of covid. He created it with his illegal gain of function funding, partnering with the communist government of China and is responsible for all the death and economic destruction wrought over the last eighteen months. He should be tried, convicted and executed for crimes against humanity. History should lump him with the likes of Josef Mengele and other mass murders.

    The current fear narrative being peddled by Fauci and Biden is the dreaded Delta variant, previously known as the Indian variant. Did you ever wonder why they had to rename the Indian variant? The chart below is why.

    That’s because cases crashed by 90% in the two months from the peak in May. And guess what? It happened with no vaccine rollout. They did send tens of millions of doses of ivermectin out to the population. These FACTS do not support the approved narrative being spun by our contemptible corrupt leaders. “

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 8 2021 #82900
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    Are the bloggers the only ones with an eye in the land of the blind (the USA)?

    Distraction
    THE BIG LIE
    has nothing to do with trump

    • Covid is a Global Propaganda Operation (APT)

    • Cholesterol Drug Cuts Coronavirus Infection By 70% (Fox)

    • The Unvaccinated: The New COVID Scapegoats (TF)

    (Ask yourself; True or false -“trying to preserve their while male Christian “privilege” while making minorities pay the price.”)

    COVID is a disease of hyperinflammation and hypercoagulation. Now finally Dr. Malone is trying to drive that home after 18 months. We can treat this early. Many doctors were saying this in March 2020.

    • Joe Rogan Blames Jabs For Virus Mutations & Blasts Mandatory Vaccination (RT)

    “the very sort of environment that we’re creating by having so many people vaccinated with a vaccine that doesn’t kill off the virus, it actually can lead to a more potent virus. Try finding that story anywhere.”

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    https://www.cureus.com/articles/64807-prophylactic-role-of-ivermectin-in-severe-acute-respiratory-syndrome-coronavirus-2-infection-among-healthcare-workers#comments

    The of oral ivermectin (300 μg/kg/dose at a gap of 72 hours) was considered as exposure.
    Conclusionuptake of two doses
    Two doses of oral ivermectin (300 μg/kg/dose given 72 hours apart) as chemoprophylaxis among HCWs reduced the risk of COVID-19 infection by 83% in the following month. Safe, effective, and low-cost chemoprophylaxis has relevance in the containment of pandemic alongside vaccine.

    This article was previously posted on the Research Square preprint platform on February 15, 2021.

    I hope that TAE is making a positive difference for someone

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 7 2021 #82814
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    @ Rototillerman
    Lots of good info at the link you provided

    Full testimony of former HHS Covid Adviser: ‘Asymptomatic transmission more myth than reality’


    You just cannot discuss this asymptomatic issue without factoring in the very flawed RT-PCR test with its 97% to 100% false positives at cycle counts (Ct) of 34 to 35 and above (optimal Ct of 24 to 25 denotes real infectiousness and predictive of serious outcomes). This disastrous RT-PCR test cannot be omitted from mention, for it was part of the ‘asymptomatic’ deception.
    it was evident that the RT-PCR tests had large numbers of false positive results when Thermal Cycle Thresholds of greater than 30 were used. This led to erroneous quarantines and closures when a positive test emerged. In fact, as Dimitri Mouliou states: “New technologies have loss of standardization as the countless PCR kits vary in methods and cutoff values, thus, test results are paralleled in unassociated weights, and a realistic comparison between cases is trammeled. Thus, by preserving the existence of misleading COVID-19 cases in such a way, [the] scientific community is being prevented from clear-sighted advances. Since PCR assay cannot distinguish between active and residual RNA, a better assay … needs to be designed.”
    We became aware early on that a cycle threshold (Ct) of 24 was the limit in RT-PCR testing, and everything above the limit was likely to be a false positive, picking up viral dust, fragments, old coronavirus, old recovered infection, etc. We knew the CDC had set the Ct at 40, and this contributed to the hundreds of thousands and millions of positive cases that were not positive, leading to wrongful policy mandates of school closures and unnecessary quarantine.
    Ballan and Tindall further explain that “a person showing no symptoms of Covid-19 may test positive for SARS-CoV-2 on a PCR test, which doesn’t necessarily mean that they are infectious. There are four ways in which this can happen: i) the test may give a false positive result due to several faults in the testing process or in the test itself (the person is not infected), ii) the person may have recovered from Covid-19 in the last three months (the person is not currently infected but dead debris of the virus are being picked up by the test), the person may be pre-symptomatic, i.e, the person is infected but still in the early stages of the disease and has not yet developed symptoms, and iv) the person may be asymptomatic, i.e. the person is infected but has pre-existing immunity and will never develop symptoms”.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 7 2021 #82812
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    @ Doc Robinson

    Correction of link

    SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern and variants under investigation in England
    Technical briefing 20, 6 August 2021

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1009243/Technical_Briefing_20.pdf

    Table 5. Attendance to emergency care and deaths of confirmed and provisional Delta cases in England by vaccination status
    (1 February 2021 to 2 August 2021)

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 7 2021 #82790
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    @ upstateNYer

    The qualifier ….
    The possibility

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 7 2021 #82781
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    The path of is being implemented everyday.
    The fight for life, has evolved a mechanism of maximizing spreading geographically so as to survive the longest on the time line.
    Also, being in a Mutualism symbiotic relationship with other life forms has been proven to be the most beneficial.

    In asymptomatic cases, people don’t know they are infected. There is no way for others to know either. Regardless of how COVID-19 presents, the disease is contagious and can easily transmit to others. The possibility that an asymptomatic person could infect other people is exactly the same as in symptomatic cases.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 7 2021 #82761
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    pathological liars

    No lies. No misleading. No omissions. No suppression of knowledge.

    Only the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

    The public is awash in lies and misinformation about COVID-19 and the vaccines, “they are being misled.”

    sea of lies on social media.

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    Why have none of our media leaders never told us the “Absolute Risk Reduction” of the vaccines?
    What is the “Absolute Risk Reduction” of the HCQ, vitamine D, zinc, Ivermectin?

    Someone with a degree in math can make the numbers tell any story that they want.
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    Confused

    I just noticed that there is a positive improvement …… when going to next page of the comments

    I’m noticing and wondering if some of the frustrated unwashed of the world have decided use fire as a weapon against the establishment. (wildfires everywhere)

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 6 2021 #82756
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    Thanks for the info on possible scammers

    I just noticed that there is a positive improvement …… when going to next page of the comments

    I’m noticing and wondering if some of the frustrated unwashed of the world have decided use fire as a weapon against the establishment. (wildfires everywhere)

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 6 2021 #82688
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    No lies. No misleading. No omissions. Only the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
    /s
    https://www.fraserhealth.ca/health-topics-a-to-z/immunizations/immunization-basics/what-is-immunization#.YQ2ruohKjpM

    Immunization protects people against diseases.
    What is immunization?
    Immunization is the process of giving a vaccine to a person to protect them against disease. Immunity (protection) by immunization is similar to the immunity a person would get from disease, but instead of getting the disease you get a vaccine. This is what makes vaccines such powerful medicine. Most vaccines are given by needle (injection) but some are given by mouth (orally) or sprayed into the nose (nasally). Immunizations are also called vaccinations, needles, shots or jabs.

    How do vaccines work?
    Vaccines contain the same germ that causes disease. But the germs in the vaccine have been killed or weakened so that they do not make you sick. Some vaccines contain only a part of the germ that causes disease.

    When you get immunized, your body is tricked into thinking that it has been infected with the disease. It makes antibodies that kill the germs. These antibodies stay in your body for a long time and remember how to fight the germ. If the germs from the disease enter your body in the future, the antibodies destroy the germs before you can become sick. It is much safer to get a vaccine than the disease.

    Most people are fully protected against the disease after getting immunized. In rare cases, people who are immunized can still get the disease because they only get partial protection from the vaccine. This is more common in people with medical conditions that affect the immune system. Although these people may still get the disease, they will most likely get a milder sickness and not suffer serious complications.

    Find out more about vaccines and how they work.

    What is herd immunity (community immunity)?
    When enough people in a community are immunized against a disease, the chance of an outbreak is greatly reduced. This type of community protection is known as ‘herd’ or ‘community’ immunity. To reach herd immunity against a disease, a community must have between 74 to 95 per cent of the people immunized depending upon the disease.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 6 2021 #82633
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    Two stories above my pay grade- you make a choice

    • Attorney Renz: MORE Than 45,000 Americans Have Died From Covid-19 Vaccines (DE)

    1. Various hospital whistleblowers have come forward and revealed to Thomas Renz and his team that hospitals are seeing fully vaccinated breakthrough cases at an “astounding rate.” Renz said that numerous whistleblowers have stated that they are seeing fully vaccinated individuals in ICUs at a rate anywhere from 40% to 100%. “People who are fully vaccinated are accounting for 40% or more of admissions for Covid and Covid related illness. 40% or more, that is pretty amazing considering the government’s telling us you won’t ever be admitted and you’ll be safe if you get this vaccine.” Renz said that one hospital whistleblower revealed that there have been several periods where, in her hospital, 100% of the ICU patients were comprised of breakthrough cases. The attorney said that these Covid breakthrough cases are “exactly what we are seeing in the UK and Israel” and is proof that the Covid jab “is not safe or effective.”

    2. disinformation sites. Other sources of misinformation shared the video.
    Anti-vaccine actors often intentionally distort data published on VAERS, which was set up for early warning purposes and may contain “incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable” information. VAERS reports have frequently been cited in misleading ways to spread misinformation about the safety and efficacy of Covid-19 vaccines.
    ———-
    • Project Fear: MSM Is Doing The Government’s Covid Propaganda Work (RT)
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    Its a battle field where I’m underqualified to participate.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 5 2021 #82581
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    deflationista,
    Likes the following data,
    The World Mortality Dataset provides a more accurate picture of the number of people who died because of the COVID-19 pandemic, and it is available online and updated daily.

    https://www.mortality.org/
    The Human Mortality Database
    Our analysis (updated almost daily at https://github.com/dkobak/excess-mortality) showed statistically significant positive excess mortality in 69 out of 103 countries. Moreover, it suggests that the true COVID-19 death toll in several countries is over an order of magnitude larger than the official COVID-19 death count.

    The data are sourced from the World Mortality Dataset. Excess mortality is computed relative to the baseline obtained using linear extrapolation of the 2015–19 trend. In each subplot in the figure below, gray lines are 2015–19, black line is baseline for 2020, red line is 2020, blue line is 2021. Countries are sorted by the % increase over the baseline.

    Red number: excess mortality starting from the first officially reported Covid-19 death.
    Gray number: excess mortality as a % of the annual baseline deaths.
    Black number: excess mortality per 100,000 population.
    Blue number: ratio to the daily reported Covid-19 deaths over the same period (sourced from WHO).
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    Lets look at Canada, one of the 34 with no excess (from jan 26 to feb 21 above the line but since then its been below the excess)
    Excess mortality: deaths from all causes compared to previous years

    https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?facet=none&Metric=Excess+mortality&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=~CAN

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 5 2021 #82472
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    https://dailycaller.com/2021/07/30/chip-roy-letter-republicans-fauci-suppressed-covid-19-treatments-hydroxychloroquine-ivermectin/?utm_source=pocket_mylist

    EXCLUSIVE: Group Of House Republicans Press Fauci Over Potentially Suppressed COVID-19 Treatments

    The Daily Caller first obtained the letter, which was spearheaded by Republican Texas Rep. Chip Roy and signed by 13 other House Republicans. In it, they ask about any correspondence between Fauci and others in the virology community regarding potential effective solutions to combat COVID-19, specifically focusing on the drugs Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine.

    “Recently, a review led by Dr. Pierre Kory, examined trials with Ivermectin as a treatment against COVID. The Kory paper concluded that controlled treatment trials of the drug Ivermectin have found ‘statistically significant reductions in mortality, time to clinical recovery, and time to viral clearance’ against COVID-19,” the letter states.

    “Additionally, two early studies that were critical to the dismissal of Hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for COVID-19 have been retracted due to a lack of transparency related to the original raw data. This shows that the process for assessing the effectiveness of treatments in the midst of crisis is fraught with tensions and difficulties and transparency is essential,” the letter continues.

    READ THE LETTER HERE:

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 5 2021 #82469
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    Help
    Two stories that need the source to get the facts

    Alberta lifts all covid restrictions because they can’t produce an isolated sample of SARS-CoV-2 to prove covid exists to back their mandates. Patrick King forced the government to admit either covid doesn’t exist, or there’s something they don’t want us to know about the virus from ivermectin

    Alberta lifts all covid restrictions because they can’t produce an isolated sample of SARS-CoV-2 to prove covid exists to back their mandates. Patrick King forced the government to admit either covid doesn’t exist, or there’s something they don’t want us to know about the virus

    next story

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/20595-dead-1-9-million-injured-50-serious-reported-european-union-database-adverse-drug-reactions-covid-19-shots/5751904

    20,595 Dead 1.9 Million Injured (50% Serious) Reported in European Union’s Database of Adverse Drug Reactions for COVID-19 Shots

    compare with

    Playing with the numbers
    Excess mortality: deaths from all causes compared to previous years

    https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?facet=none&Metric=Excess+mortality&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=CAN~DEU~IRL~USA
    (hint: the yearly world population has not been reduced beyond the error bar)

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 5 2021 #82419
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    @ Dr. D
    I’m glad that you made your list of all the problems that you see that are hiding under the blanket of covid.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 5 2021 #82417
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    • Biden Admin To Make Vaccination Mandatory For All Active Duty Soldiers (PM)

    I don’t know why ….

    Maybe, its because, If a soldier or support contractor does not want the vaccine then they can’t work, and must resign
    Maybe, its because spittle is stronger than a bullet
    Maybe, its because they want to reduce the military budget
    Maybe, its because they want to bring the troops home to protect the homeland.
    Maybe, its because they think that the vaccine will protect the soldiers from getting covid
    Maybe, its because they think that the vaccine will prevent the soldiers from getting sick.
    Maybe, its because they want to give money to the med industrial complex

    I don’t know why ….

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 4 2021 #82415
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    • Biden Admin To Make Vaccination Mandatory For All Active Duty Soldiers (PM)

    I don’t know why ….

    Maybe, its because, If a soldier or support contractor does not want the vaccine then they can’t work, and must resign
    Maybe, its because spittle is stronger than a bullet
    Maybe, its because they want to reduce the military budget
    Maybe, its because they want to bring the troops home to protect the homeland.
    Maybe, its because they think that the vaccine will protect the soldiers from getting covid
    Maybe, its because they think that the vaccine will prevent the soldiers from getting sick.
    Maybe, its because they want to give money to the med industrial complex

    I don’t know why ….

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 4 2021 #82337
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    A real shit disturber
    We would still be still sleeping in la-la-land if the Americans had not elected Trump.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 4 2021 #82292
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    “… the early treatment for covid (official and published policy) is “no treatment”.”
    (Come back to the emergency hospital, when your lips turn blue)

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 4 2021 #82271
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    @ deflationista
    August 4, 2021 at 4:24 am #82115 REPLY

    The responses to your point of view should help you crystalize your opinions

    My opinion or anybody else that you mentioned did not change and will not change the dynamics of the changes to our economic/social networks.

    There is a river of printed money that many are saying our children and grand children will have to pay back.
    Question:
    1. pay back to who?
    2. Make who richer.
    3. Since +60% of people are living off loans and from paycheck to paycheck, where is the money coming from to pay back all that printed money? (med. industry??) ( That’s a dream)
    3. Another dream, from the inheritance from the boomers.

    Another point, play with the numbers. Just like everyone else

    Playing with the numbers
    Excess mortality: deaths from all causes compared to previous years

    https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&pickerSort=desc&pickerMetric=new_deaths_per_million&Metric=Excess+mortality&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=AUS~C
    (hint: the yearly world population has not been reduced beyond the error bar)
    ———
    Visualizing the History of Pandemics By Nicholas LePan

    Visualizing the History of Pandemics


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    @ deflationista
    News

    • Fauci and the NIH Knew Covid-19 “Vaccines” Could Lead to ADE (Ghion)

    Late last night, an anonymous source forwarded a screenshot of a report attributed to Timothy Cardozo and Ronald Veazey that is found at the bottom of NIH’s website. The report specifically warned of the distinct possibility that people who are injected with Covid-19 “vaccines” could develop the very Antibody-Dependent Enhancement that Dr. Malone keeps ringing the alarm about. Not only was this information suppressed from the public, the government-media-corporate complex went out of their way to censor—

    • A Plea To Allow The Use Of Ivermectin As Covid-19 Treatment (Biz)
    ( A plea to whom !!!!! )
    This article, written by eleven doctors and professors to the Department of Health, urges the Department to facilitate the use of Ivermectin in the public health sector. The article was delivered to President Cyril Ramaphosa’s house by Jeremy Gordon who believes that we could end the crisis of the pandemic with the use of Ivermectin as they have in Zimbabwe. – Nadya Swart
    Twenty countries are using Ivermectin to treat Covid-19.
    The use of Ivermectin has been restricted because the WHO says that further clinical trials are needed before they can recommend it. When asked about this, Dr Stone replied, “I find it very hard to understand how they can say that there is not sufficient evidence. There are three thousand patients plus in, I think, twenty-four trials where they demonstrate an over 75% reduction in mortality. Those figures fit exactly with what we have seen.”

    ————
    Read/Find out who will pay back the printed money
    https://gen.medium.com/meet-your-new-feudal-overlords-e18709541d61
    Meet Your New Feudal Overlords

    by Marlon Weems.
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    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 3 2021 #82091
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    Playing with the numbers
    Excess mortality: deaths from all causes compared to previous years

    https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&pickerSort=desc&pickerMetric=new_deaths_per_million&Metric=Excess+mortality&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=AUS~CAN~DEU~GBR

    ————

    So vax increases your odds by .025%. Of surviving. Hmmmmmmmm”
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    Ivermectin, a drug used to fight parasites in third-world countries, could help reduce the length of infection for people who contract coronavirus for less than a $1 a day

    (My cost for Ivermectin was a lot more than $1.00)
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    Individuals who have had SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to benefit from COVID-19 vaccination
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    “…..covid vaccines do not achieve mucosal immunity (in contrast to natural infection)
    ….. false promise of very high protection against “symptomatic infection”,
    ……pharmaceutical companies may even have known that this was just a (very lucrative) “flash in the pan” and not a lasting protective effect.”

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    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 2 2021 #82015
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    Where is the lie

    “it is safe and >>up to 90% effective in preventing infection”

    That means that there is a possibility that only10% of those vaccinated could get the virus
    Now, that is for one vaccine. Would the 10% be reduced by another 90% with 2 vaccines.

    I call bull shit

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 2 2021 #81980
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    Its so hot that its burning …. Turkey, Greece, Italy
    Poor tourists. It can’t be fun to be evacuated from your resort.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 2 2021 #81912
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    Executive TAE summary
    Our street light shines on diamonds

    A Pandemic now does NOT mean anyone died.

    about 80% of the population has natural immunity.

    treatment with HCQ or ivermectin, is good

    re-defined the word “pandemic”

    need a variant to pump up fear

    no functional PCR test, had a 90% false positive rate

    two narratives –
    1. the vaccine protects against infection, it prevents the spread of the virus and it protects against developing symptoms.

    2. a financial motive

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    Propaganda – fake news –
    There is a major effort to divert the attention of lookers who don’t mind their own business.
    There is a major effort to divert the attention of buzzy bodies who want to meddle/interfere in other people’s business

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    in reply to: The Vaccines Don’t Work #81874
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    An error

    Visualizing the History of Pandemics

    Visualizing the History of Pandemics

    in reply to: The Vaccines Don’t Work #81867
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    Does a pandemic need to kill people?

    There are still a lot of old, obese, people with diabetics that have escaped from covid.
    Death rate of covid is a mere 0.26% of those infected.

    Visualizing the History of Pandemics
    By Nicholas LePan

    June 30, 2021 Update:
    Due to popular request, we’ve also visualized how the death tolls of each pandemic stack up as a share of total estimated global populations at the time.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 1 2021 #81832
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    Does a pandemic need to kill people?

    There are still a lot of old, obese, people with diabetics that have escaped from covid.
    Death rate of covid is a mere 0.26% of those infected.

    Visualizing the History of Pandemics


    Visualizing the History of Pandemics
    By Nicholas LePan

    June 30, 2021 Update:
    Due to popular request, we’ve also visualized how the death tolls of each pandemic stack up as a share of total estimated global populations at the time.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 1 2021 #81734
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    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/brandon-smith-why-are-globalists-and-governments-so-desperate-100-vaccination-rates
    or

    Why Are Globalists And Governments So Desperate For 100% Vaccination Rates?


    By Brandon Smith

    propaganda
    bureaucrats and media talking heads go on the attack
    give illusion
    being misled

    restrictions
    control information
    control demonstrations

    wars not reported
    impotent journalist

    herd/natural immunity
    various life-channels hashing it out until everyone can co-exist
    symbiotic relationship with our gut bacteria

    it is actually more dangerous to lessen the symptoms

    Fact check required

    ” death rate of covid is a mere 0.26% of those infected (this is a stat that the media consistently and deliberately refuses to mention to the public). This means that 99.7% of the public is in NO danger from covid whether they are vaccinated or not.”

    ” needed 70% herd immunity”

    “The mainstream media and the globalists will argue that there is “no evidence” that the mRNA vaccines will cause deadly side effects or infertility. I would argue back that there is NO EVIDENCE that they are safe.”

    “the truth that the lockdowns, mandates and vaccines were never about safety and were always about control – from social control to population control.”

    reducing population – depopulation

    “Compare Death rate of war, poverty and other causes”
    “death rates of cigaretes – cigarettes, which kill ~500,000 people in the US EVERY year.”

    “The conflict between China and the US is fabricated for the benefit of the public.”
    Search “depopulation quotes” – About 1,700 results

    REMEMBER; IF YOU’RE READING THIS, YOU ARE THE RESISTANCE!

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 31 2021 #81585
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    Science fiction

    Is the pen more powerful than your imagination.
    A tale of two possibilities

    BOOK #1

    ” …. a series of hypothetical scenarios related to Covid-19 variants, finding it a “realistic possibility”
    …. existing vaccines would remain effective against “serious disease”
    ….. it nonetheless added that “an increase in morbidity and mortality would be expected even in the face of vaccination,”
    ….. might happen when the immune system will no longer be able to produce antibodies for new emerging variants,
    ….. urging for increased investment in viral surveillance to keep tabs on new mutations.”

    BOOK #2

    • Fauci *ADMITS* I Was Right In Spring of 2020 (Denninger)

    • Protect the most-vulnerable who cannot protect themselves.
    • Urge immediate intervention with suspected or believed effective drugs
    The list of said drugs includes hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin, budesonide, famotidine and a few others.
    natural infection has now proved superior to vaccination (note that nobody is seriously claiming Delta and other “variants” evade natural immunity)
    • Those who are at statistically-zero risk of serious harm or death (e.g. healthy children) should be encouraged to live normally and expect to get the virus.

    ———

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 30 2021 #81537
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    Best quotes

    They keep moving the goal posts

    It seem like they don’t want the pandemic to ever go away.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 30 2021 #81518
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    MSM, CDC, WHO are still not recommending Vd, zinc, and
    Ivermectin that works better than the vaccines.

    https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/fulltext/2021/06000/review_of_the_emerging_evidence_demonstrating_the.4.aspx
    American Journal of Therapeutics: May/June 2021 – Volume 28 – Issue 3 – p e299-e318
    doi: 10.1097/MJT.0000000000001377

    Conclusion:
    Finally, the many examples of ivermectin distribution campaigns leading to rapid population-wide decreases in morbidity and mortality indicate that an oral agent effective in all phases of COVID-19 has been identified. The same study found that ivermectin has been used safely in pregnant women, children and infants.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 30 2021 #81486
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    Breaking news: MSM, CDC, WHO
    NEW DATA, NEW INTERPRETATION,

    Delta more contagious than Ebola
    Fully vaccinated can transmit covid variant just as well as the non-vaccinated.

    Full vaccinated people can still get and transmit the infections as fast as the unvaccinated

    New science changes the need for mask and the need to add more layers of protections

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