Apr 082019
 


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British Voters Say Give Us A Strong Leader Willing To Break The Rules (R.)
May Faces Intense Cabinet Pressure Over Prospect Of Lengthy Brexit Delay (G.)
Labour Jewish Members Declare Party’s Leadership ‘Antisemitic’ (Ind.)
Sorry Is The Easiest Word – But Should Democrats Stop Their Apology Tour? (G.)
Mulvaney Says Democrats Will ‘Never’ See Trump Tax Returns (AFP)
US Urges Immediate Halt To Military Operations In Libya (R.)
Gold Is Moving Back Into The Center Of The Financial System – Rubino (USAW)
Facebook Are ‘Morally Bankrupt Liars’ – New Zealand Privacy Commissioner (G.)
Chelsea Manning’s ‘Don’t Tread on Me’ Moment (Kiriakou)
Midwest Floods Hammer US Ethanol Industry (R.)
Greek Pensioners Have Become The Biggest Single Group Of Taxpayers (K.)
Pain-Care Specialist Agrees To Testify Against Purdue (R.)
Drinks Bottles Now Biggest Plastic Menace For Waterways (G.)

 

 

History rhymes.

British Voters Say Give Us A Strong Leader Willing To Break The Rules (R.)

British voters want a strong leader who is willing to break the rules and force through wide scale reform after three years of Brexit crisis pushed confidence in the political system to a 15-year low. The 2016 referendum revealed a United Kingdom divided over much more than EU membership, and has sparked impassioned debate about everything from secession and immigration to capitalism, empire and what it means to be British. Yet more than a week since the United Kingdom was originally supposed to leave the EU on March 29, nothing is resolved: it remains uncertain how, when or if it ever will.


Research by the Hansard Society found that 54 percent of voters want a strong leader who is willing to break the rules while 72 percent said the system needs “quite a lot” or “a great deal” of improvement. Confidence in the system at the lowest level in the 15-year history of the survey, lower even than after the 2009 expense scandal when lawmakers were shown to have charged taxpayers for everything from an ornamental duck house to cleaning out a moat. [..] “People are pessimistic about the country’s problems and their possible solution, with sizeable numbers willing to entertain radical political changes.” Just a quarter of people had confidence in lawmakers’ handling of Brexit.

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They had people vote for something, and then spent 3 years haggling over what that something was. At the very least that’s the wrong way around.

May Faces Intense Cabinet Pressure Over Prospect Of Lengthy Brexit Delay (G.)

Theresa May is facing intense cabinet pressure to avoid the prospect of a long Brexit delay, amid increasing expectations that last ditch cross-party talks on a compromise departure plan will not produce anything concrete. Before a crucial EU summit later this week, the prime minister is facing a fast-diminishing range of options that could split the Conservative party and prompt a mass cabinet walkout, or could result in the UK crashing out of the EU without a deal on Friday. May’s only response on Sunday was a homespun video that called for a compromise solution, but while praised for its conversational style, it lacked any fresh detail on proposals to break the Brexit impasse.

With Labour reiterating it had yet to learn even the basics of concessions May might offer after her dramatic call last week for consensus, the timetable looked tight to agree anything before the European council gathering on Wednesday evening. Under the terms of the previous brief extension agreed with the EU, if Brussels does not agree another delay, a no-deal Brexit will happen on Friday. May has requested a pause until 30 June, but Brussels is keen on a wait of up to a year, which could be broken earlier if a solution is found. On Monday, the EU’s chief Brexit negotiator, Michel Barnier, will hold talks with the Irish Taoiseach, Leo Varadkar.

At the weekend, Varadkar said his own preference was for a longer extension than 30 June. Also on Monday, Jeremy Corbyn is due to hold meetings with Sinn Fein’s leaders in London. The party’s president, Mary Lou McDonald, is expected to tell Corbyn that Irish interests must be protected whatever the outcome of his Brexit negotiations with Theresa May.

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Corbyn talks to May and very predictably this drivel comes out again. Corbyn’s no anti-semite, but he defends Palestinians. That’s why there’s this.

But at the same time, he’s the one who allows this to happen. The Labour Party should be talking about what’s happening to Julian Assange in the heart of London, not be in some nonsense war on alleged anti-semitism.

Labour Jewish Members Declare Party’s Leadership ‘Antisemitic’ (Ind.)

Jewish Labour members have branded the party leadership as antisemitic in a fresh blow to Jeremy Corbyn. The Jewish Labour Movement (JLM) passed the damning motion at its annual general meeting on Sunday, accusing Mr Corbyn of having “condoned antisemitism and antisemites”. The group said the Labour leader was “unfit to be prime minister” and that a government he led “would not be in the interests of British Jews”. JLM is Labour’s only official Jewish affiliate and has been part of the party for almost 100 years. One source at the meeting told The Independent the decision to approve the motion of no confidence in Mr Corbyn was “almost unanimous”.


It reads: “The leadership of the Labour Party have demonstrated that they are antisemitic, and have presided over a culture of antisemitism in which they have failed to use their personal and positional power to tackle antisemitism, and have instead used their influence to protect and defend antisemites. “Jeremy Corbyn is directly responsible, whether through his own actions, where he appears to have condoned antisemitism and antisemites, or through his inaction to tackle the wider problem within the party.” The motion said JLM “has no confidence in Jeremy Corbyn’s ability to understand, respond to or solve the problem” and claimed “his leadership of the Labour Party combined with his past actions and associations shows a complete disregard for the Jewish community in Britain”.

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Why the Democrats are toast: long article on tons of apologies, but not a word about what they really should apologize for: Russiagate.

Sorry Is The Easiest Word – But Should Democrats Stop Their Apology Tour? (G.)

For Joe Biden, it was his discomfiting touching of women. For Pete Buttigieg, his use of the phrase “all lives matter”. For Tulsi Gabbard, her comments about homosexuality. For Kirsten Gillibrand, her positions on immigration. For Kamala Harris, her record on criminal justice. For Beto O’Rourke, his jokes about his wife and children. For Bernie Sanders, his staff perpetrating sexual harassment in the last campaign. For Elizabeth Warren, her claim to Native American ancestry. Democrats running for president in 2020 are on an “apology tour”, seeking to atone for past political sins. Some voters welcome it as an antidote to Donald Trump, an overdue attempt to set the social and political bar higher for the 21st century. Others are anxious that the candidates’ supporters will try to tear each other down with “wokeness” tests that could leave the party hopelessly divided.

[..] In February, comedian Bill Maher urged viewers of his HBO show: “No more swiping left on presidential candidates. Let’s give them a chance. Let’s not eat our own the way we nitpicked Hillary [Clinton] to death over her emails and other bullshit.” Maher added: “Kamala Harris has already had to play defence because it’s come out, when she was a prosecutor, she prosecuted people. Not very progressive. She should have found a way to apply more forgiveness, and the fact that she didn’t is unforgivable. Elizabeth Warren claimed to be Native American – so what? Trump claimed to be human.”

Republicans sense an opportunity to frame Democrats as consumed by identity politics and virtue signalling. Rich Lowry, editor of the National Review, wrote in February: Democrats are about to ≠embark on the first woke primary, a gantlet of political correctness that will routinely wring abject apologies out of candidates and find fault in even the most sure-footed. The passage of time will be no defense. Nor the best of intentions. Nor anything else.

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“If the Democrats want to know “if the IRS is doing its job auditing the president, they could ask the IRS..”

Mulvaney Says Democrats Will ‘Never’ See Trump Tax Returns (AFP)

A formal request from a Democratic committee chairman to see six years of Donald Trump’s tax returns was forcibly rejected Sunday by a top presidential aide, who said Democrats would “never” see the documents. Trump is the first US president since Richard Nixon to refuse to divulge his tax information. Representative Richard Neal, chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, sparked a contentious battle on Wednesday when he made the request using a little-known provision in the tax code, saying, “It is critical to ensure the accountability of our government and elected officials.” But when Trump’s acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, was asked Sunday whether Democrats would ever see the returns, he was unequivocal. “Never,” he said on “Fox News Sunday.” “Nor should they.”

Mulvaney asserted that since voters knew ahead of the 2016 election that Trump would not reveal his returns and then elected him anyway, the matter was “already litigated.” He said that while there are legal provisions for the Internal Revenue Service to turn tax papers over to the Ways and Means Committee – the chief tax-writing committee in the House – a “political” attack is not a valid reason. Separately, Jay Sekulow, a private attorney for Trump, argued that the Democratic-controlled House was trying to move beyond its constitutionally mandated role of oversight into the realm of law enforcement. If the Democrats want to know “if the IRS is doing its job auditing the president, they could ask the IRS,” he said on ABC’s “This Week.”

“A Ways and Means hearing about IRS enforcement as a way to get to the president’s private individual and business tax returns makes no sense, both constitutionally and statutorily,” Sekulow said. But Dan Kildee, a Democratic member of Ways and Means, took strong exception. “We’re looking very carefully as to whether or not the IRS is properly auditing and enforcing tax law on the president of the United States, and we’re considering legislative changes toward that end,” he said on ABC.

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Thank you, Hillary and Obama.

US Urges Immediate Halt To Military Operations In Libya (R.)

The United States called on Sunday for an immediate halt to military operations in Libya as the Libyan National Army headed by Khalifa Haftar advanced on the capital, Tripoli. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said in a statement that Washington was “deeply concerned about fighting near Tripoli” and urged talks to end the fighting. “We have made clear that we oppose the military offensive by Khalifa Haftar’s forces and urge the immediate halt to these military operations against the Libyan capital,” Pompeo said in urging de-escalation. Eleven people were killed and 23 wounded in clashes in southern Tripoli, the Health Ministry of the U.N.-backed Libyan government of National Accord said late on Sunday.


The ministry gave no details of whether the casualties were civilians or fighters. Lawless since 2011 when Muammar Gaddafi was toppled by rebels backed by NATO air strikes, Libya has become the transit point for hundreds of thousands of migrants trekking across the Sahara in hopes of crossing the Mediterranean Sea to reach Europe. Haftar, 75, who casts himself as a foe of Islamist extremism but is viewed by opponents as a new dictator in the mold of Gaddafi, enjoys the backing of Egypt and the United Arab Emirates, which see him as a bulwark against Islamists and have supported him militarily, according to U.N. reports.

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“.. in the next recession, we will be taking on huge amounts of new debt at an accelerating rate.”

Gold Is Moving Back Into The Center Of The Financial System – Rubino (USAW)

The end part of this story is how good all this is for gold. . . . The next thing from the Fed will be a rate cut, and it will increase and not decrease its balance sheet. . . . We are going to go preemptively to monetary easing, and that’s really new. This is very, very new. You normally don’t do this. You wait until you see a bear market and a slowdown in the economy that gets people laid off before you start aggressively easing. Apparently, we are going to do that stuff before that stuff starts happening. Who knows what the impact of that will be? If it works the way they want, more people will get hired, wages will pick up and we’ll have inflation in the 4% or 5% range before you know it.”

So, with near record low yields on bonds and near record high prices for stocks, Rubino has just one question. Rubino says, “What’s cheap? Gold and silver. What is down and what is cheap relative to the fundamentals. It’s not just the price of gold and silver, it’s how much gold and silver exists relative to how much paper wealth is in the world. The amount of gold and silver that we are bringing out of the ground is growing at 1% or 2% per year. The amount of paper wealth in the world is growing exponentially. . . .Gold is moving back into the center of the global financial system.”

Another big factor to consider is debt. Rubino says, “Every big country is running deficits that are dramatically bigger than they were five years ago. In the U.S., we are back to $1 trillion a year deficits, which is Obama Administration post Great Recession kind of numbers, and we are doing it 10 years into an expansion. . . . So, in the next recession, we will be taking on huge amounts of new debt at an accelerating rate.

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Now we’re talking.

Facebook Are ‘Morally Bankrupt Liars’ – New Zealand Privacy Commissioner (G.)

New Zealand’s privacy commissioner has lashed out at social media giant Facebook in the wake of the Christchurch attacks, calling the company “morally bankrupt pathological liars”. The commissioner used his personal Twitter page to lambast the social network, which has also drawn the ire of prime minister Jacinda Ardern for hosting a livestream of the attacks that left 50 dead, which was then copied and shared all over the internet. “Facebook cannot be trusted,” wrote Edwards. “They are morally bankrupt pathological liars who enable genocide (Myanmar), facilitate foreign undermining of democratic institutions.


“[They] allow the live streaming of suicides, rapes, and murders, continue to host and publish the mosque attack video, allow advertisers to target ‘Jew haters’ and other hateful market segments, and refuse to accept any responsibility for any content or harm. “They #dontgiveazuck” wrote Edwards. He later deleted the tweets, saying they had prompted “toxic and misinformed traffic”. Edwards was responding to an interview given by Facebook co-founder Mark Zuckerberg to America’s ABC network, in which he failed to commit to any changes to the Facebook live technology, including a time delay on livestreams. Zuckerberg said incidents like the live streaming of the Christchurch mosque attacks were the result of “bad actors”; not bad technology and a time delay would disrupt the enjoyment of users who broadcast events like birthday parties or group hangouts.

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Pete Seeger did in the 1950’s what Chelsea is doing today.

Chelsea Manning’s ‘Don’t Tread on Me’ Moment (Kiriakou)

Contrary to popular belief, President Obama did not pardon Manning in the final days of his administration. Instead, he commuted her sentence, simply releasing her from prison. The conviction still stands and Manning is still in legal jeopardy. Prosecutors could still decide to charge her with crimes related to the original charges. With that said, was Manning’s subpoena a ham-fisted attempt to get her to contradict herself in new testimony, thus inviting another felony charge for perjury or making a false statement? Were prosecutors trying to get Manning to implicate herself in some process felony? Or were they simply trying to force her to turn rat on Julian Assange?

Again, Manning could have simply answered each question with “I don’t recall.” She would have been home in time for dinner. Instead, she made a political point—one that all of us should want to emulate. That point is “Don’t tread on me.” That point is “I’m willing to jeopardize my freedom to protect yours.” I say often that in my time at the CIA, I learned that CIA culture is such that employees are taught that everything in life is a shade of gray. But that is simply not true. Some things are black and white, right or wrong. This is one of those things. It’s the government that’s the enemy here, not Manning or Assange.

Remember, the American people own the information that Manning and Assange are accused of releasing. We have a right to know what our government is doing in our name. We have a right to know whether the government is covering up crimes. We have a right to know when—and why—those Americans who commit war crimes or crimes against humanity are not being prosecuted. The mainstream media doesn’t tell us. But Wikileaks does. We wouldn’t know about some of the most egregious war crimes of the past two decades without Chelsea Manning and Julian Assange. You don’t have to like them. You don’t have to share their politics. You don’t have to want to go out and have a beer with them. But you do have to respect what they’ve done.

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Stupid industry anyway.

Midwest Floods Hammer US Ethanol Industry (R.)

The March floods that punished the U.S. Midwest have roiled the ethanol industry, hammering prices and trapping barrels in the country’s interior while the U.S. coasts suffer from shortages of the biofuel. The historic March floods have dealt a series of blows to large swaths of an ethanol industry that was already struggling with high inventories and sluggish domestic demand growth. And the ethanol shortages are one factor pushing gasoline prices in Los Angeles and Southern California to the highest in the nation and they could top $4 a gallon for the first time since 2014, according to tracking firm GasBuddy.


Benchmark price for ethanol used in most supply contracts initially jumped on news of the floods but has been hobbled by rising waters around the Chicago hub that have halted barges and sales. That stands in contrast to prices on the coasts, which rose dramatically – drawing in heavy imports from Brazil, the main U.S. ethanol competitor. The floods inflicted billions of dollars in damage to crops and homes in the U.S. Midwest, and knocked out roughly 13% of ethanol capacity. U.S. ethanol is made from corn and required by the government to be blended into the nation’s fuel supply to reduce emissions. While some ethanol plants were flooded, the primary effect of the rising waters was to shut rail lines that serve as the main arteries for corn and ethanol deliveries.

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Q: how long can you keep an economy running that has more pensioners than workers?

Greek Pensioners Have Become The Biggest Single Group Of Taxpayers (K.)

Pensioners constitute the biggest single group of taxpayers in Greece, confirming the ominous predictions about the impact of an aging population on growth and state finances. The number of pensioners expanded since the starts of the financial crisis more than any other group, coming to outnumber even salaried workers. The relevant data from the Independent Authority for Public Revenue are impressive, showing that in nine out of the country’s 13 regions, pensioners make up the biggest group of taxpayers, ahead of salaried workers, farmers and freelance professionals. In certain regions both the number of pensioners and their declared incomes are above those of the other groups.

For instance, in the region of Western Greece, pensioners account for 40.1% of taxpayers and 40% of the total declared income. Statistical data processing reveals that since end-2014 the number of pensioners in Greece has shot up by 233,000. Going back to the outbreak of the crisis at the start of the decade, there is an additional 588,360: From 1,667,428 pensioners in 2010 there are now 2,255,788. The active population is therefore declining at a rapid rate: Before the economic crisis broke out, pensioners accounted for 29% of taxpayers, while today their share has climbed to 35.4%. However, the same data also reveal the dramatic shrinking of pensioners’ incomes during the crisis: Back in 2010 their declared annual income amounted to 27 billion euros, as each one of them declared an average 16,228 euros per year; today the yearly declared income of pensioners comes to just 11,175 euros, reduced by 31.13%.

The regional data are quite astonishing in terms of the growing dominance of pensioners among taxpayers: In Attica, by far the country’s most populated region, salaried workers come to 935,955 and pensioners are 804,755. The annual income of pensioners is 10.3 billion euros, according to 2018 figures, while that of salaried workers is 15.2 billion. In Western Greece, the region that includes Patra – Greece’s third city – pensioners dwarf salaried workers, as there are 153,452 of the former against just 111,979 of the latter.

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Well, actually he’s a company shill trying to stay out of jail.

Pain-Care Specialist Agrees To Testify Against Purdue (R.)

A physician ally of Purdue Pharma LP whose views helped drive the explosive growth in the use of addictive pain relievers for common aches and pains in the United States has agreed to testify against the OxyContin maker and other drug companies, newly disclosed court records show. Dr. Russell Portenoy, a professor at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine, was an early advocate for the use of opioids for chronic pain, a position he shared in medical journal articles, with regulators, at physician conferences and in other forums. He also was named as a defendant in some of the lawsuits filed by cities, counties and states seeking to hold opioid makers – including Endo and Mallinckrodt Plc – and their distributors liable for the cost of the U.S. opioid epidemic.


But Portenoy began talking to plaintiffs’ lawyers as early as January 2018 and later struck a deal with the plaintiffs to serve as a cooperating witness, the records show. In exchange for his dismissal from the suits, Portenoy provided the plaintiffs with documentation of opioid makers’ payments to him over the years, as well as a 36-page declaration that lays out what he would say on the witness stand. Portenoy’s previously confidential cooperation agreement and declaration were made public Friday as a part of a discovery ruling by David Cohen, a special master in the federal court in Cleveland, Ohio, where hundreds of the opioid lawsuits have been consolidated. In an email, Cohen said it was possible the records should have been filed under seal out of public view.

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Is it bad enough yet to call it hopeless?

Drinks Bottles Now Biggest Plastic Menace For Waterways (G.)

Plastic bottles, the detritus of our throwaway water and soft drinks habits, are the most prevalent form of plastic pollution in European waterways, according to a new report. Food wrappers, including crisp and sweet packets, were the second biggest form of plastic pollution in rivers, followed by cigarette butts. All of these forms of litter can cause problems for wildlife and fish, and are hard to clean up once they have found their way into the water. Plastic bags were found to make up only 1% of plastic rubbish in freshwater, reflecting years of efforts to reduce their use, including charges on them in the UK and many other European countries.

Consumers should be more aware of what they can do to prevent the fouling of waterways, from using cotton buds with paper sticks to binning wet wipes instead of flushing them, and bringing their own receptacles for food takeaways, according to the Plastic Rivers report from Earthwatch Europe and Plastic Oceans UK. “The products we buy every day are contributing to the problem of ocean plastic,” said Jo Ruxton, chief executive of Plastic Oceans UK. “Our discarded plastic enters rivers from litter generated by our on-the-go lifestyle and items we flush down toilets. This throwaway approach is having much more serious consequences and the report shows really simple ways to avoid this problem and stop plastic pollution.”

Although most attention on the plastic scourge has focused on the plight of oceans, about 80% of plastic rubbish flows into them from rivers. Many experts believe that focusing on the clean-up of rivers is the best way to choke off the flow of existing rubbish into seas, while the ultimate source of the problem – our dependence on throwaway plastic products – is tackled.

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    Pablo Picasso Young girl throwing a rock 1931   • British Voters Say Give Us A Strong Leader Willing To Break The Rules (R.) • May Faces Intense
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle April 8 2019]

    #46557

    V. Arnold
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    Many decades ago, I heard that saying sorry is an excuse for repeating said offense, over and over again.
    As opposed to an apology; which offers acknowledgment and understanding of the offense; thereby making it unlikely to repeat at a later date.
    I rather liked that…

    #46559

    V. Arnold
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    Pablo Picasso Young girl throwing a rock 1931
    I’m hopelessly lost on that one…
    Unless of course, that is the point…

    #46560

    Dr. D
    Participant

    “British Voters Say Give Us A Strong Leader Willing To Break The Rules (R.)”

    Be careful what you do when you ask for a populist strongman. There are a lot of people in the wings, waiting to be offered as the final solution. Another on the very long list of reasons why that person must reduce government power and mandate and not expand it.

    “May’s only response on Sunday was a homespun video that called for a compromise solution,”

    Sigh. Compromise like the way she said “My way or no way at all?” Like how only 3 years later she deigns to speak to the honorable opposition on matters that concern all Britons? Compromise to these people is saying “Submit or die.”

    “Labour Jewish Members Declare Party’s Leadership ‘Antisemitic’ (Ind.)”

    Pretty interesting they can’t come up with any specific examples. At all. If this antisemitism is so rampant, surely somebody somewhere has been insulted or disenfranchised. Can you name them? Name one? Point to a single specific example?

    I mean, here we had left organizers say “Jewish people had “a special collective responsibility as exploiters of black and brown people” supporting life-long antisemite Farrakhan wholeheartedly, and Representative Omar supporting Muslim sites that regularly cartoon Jews as rats. (picture here too offensive to post, even for me) You know, that kind of racism. And they can’t find a single example in all of Britain in the entire Labour Party? Wow, props to Britain were that true.

    Yup, more garbage, which only shows me Corbyn is not an anointed insider. That’s all that really matters, he *might* inconvenience rich people by helping, you know, Labour and laborers. Try to stop people from being killed in other nations for their religion and race.

    “supporters will try to tear each other down with “wokeness” tests that could leave the party hopelessly divided.”

    Yes, the “ideological purity test” that leads to the “circular firing squad” Obama mentioned yesterday. This is the common thread of all zealots and cults because if they were self-supporting, they would be normal, have discussions without excommunications, and not gone over the horizon into darkness. It’s okay to improve and to point things out for improvement. The trouble comes when you’re practically perfect in every way and can tell everyone else what to do. When your life and career, your worldview requires branding a scarlet letter on every chest, before long it’s branded on yours as well. Then your standard is perfection so nobody makes it through the gate and nothing gets done … by your people at least. The enemy could care less about your problems, doesn’t shoot themselves, and takes no days off. Fault finders find fault in a faulty world. So? What else is new? The problem is there’s no redemption and no forgiveness. It’s social Calvanism, where only the elect deserve heaven and everyone else is irredeemable demon-spawn. You can never, ever #MoveOn.

    “If the Democrats want to know “if the IRS is doing its job auditing the president, they could ask the IRS..”

    This is going to be hilarious because Trump, Inc was audited pretty much all the time. If there was anything, they’d both have paid back when, and the tax forms would have leaked from the IRS like everything else in government. – If Comey is willing to send all his ‘recollections’ on record to his media source, knowing he must be suspected, if isolated Top Secret special projects that killed like 18 people, which are on special islanded computers inside a no-pencil, no-phone SCIF are leaked all the time lately, what are the odds not a single person in the IRS is willing to ‘Access file: Print’, on Trump’s returns? Practically zero. But if you’re not done yet, go ahead, keep digging. Is there stuff there? Oh, probably. The IRS themselves can’t tell you and disagree with themselves on how to comply with the law if you call them on the phone directly. But it’ll be the same nothingburger as everything else.

    “US Urges Immediate Halt To Military Operations In Libya (R.)”

    But we’ve only just recreated the world’s first open-air slave market! Surely we’re not done adding misery yet! We’ve so much more yet to give!

    “morally bankrupt pathological liars”

    Says a guy who then erases his tweets instead of standing by them. Goose. Gander. That was part of my point exactly, that Facebook was the cause, the original and main distributor of the naughty (but true) material. Yet they went after some third-rate guy who didn’t get back to them in time. They shut down 4Chan and 8Chan, most of whom aren’t New Zealanders, and most of whose boards, like Reddit, have nothing to do with that tiny one-room discussion group among hundreds involving other subjects. They shut down ZeroHedge which literally had nothing to do with it, posted nothing and supported nothing. And did all of it almost entirely without due process. But the main culprit, Facebook? No bans, no shut offs, they’re our pals: scot-free forever and ever. That’s how strongly they really feel about the video and about justice. We’ll see if this guy does anything. Talk is cheap. Billionaires and their lawyers are not.

    “Greek Pensioners Have Become The Biggest Single Group Of Taxpayers (K.)”

    So the government pays the pensioners to pay the government to pay the pensioners? Stop digging, you’ve struck gold! This is the perpetual motion machine we’ve all been looking for!

    “Drinks Bottles Now Biggest Plastic Menace For Waterways (G.)”

    Because, The Guardian, every other sentence in this makes no sense. “binning wet wipes instead of flushing them,” I’m sorry, but they gave them to the sewage treatment plant and that (government) plant dumped them into the river? And the people are responsible? Wouldn’t it be a lot more disturbing in knowing a sewage treatment plant is dumping waste directly into a river than if that waste contains plastic? I imagine there’s fines for this? Would the government like to enforce their own laws on themselves for a sec before coming after us?

    On that, some 80% of the ocean plastic is from Asia and Africa with virtually none from Europe? So…why talk to me, exactly? Sounds like you’d get a lot more traction talking to them. Maybe we should bomb them, as that’s our solution to every other problem.

    “80% of plastic rubbish flows into them from rivers.” Wait: so the entire planet is producing waste, but another 20% of that is directly from the oceans? Do we have floating ocean cities of 1 billion people somewhere? Who are those guys? I was guessing basically nothing but fishing nets which would be low single-digits. Maybe garbage scows dumping directly which is of course land-people again? But 86.4% of all statistics are made up on the spot, by a Guardian reporter, who is then cited as a credible source in a wikipedia article, which is then sourced by the NYT as proof, where in perfect factogenesis becomes something “everybody knows.” Science!

    Cut plastic? Sure, why not, nobody wants it, everybody for 50 years asks for less packaging and then gets it anyway. But lying about it with every breath so no one can figure out the real cause and real solution? Not helping.

    #46561

    democritus
    Participant

    What conclusions should I draw from this?

    #46563

    Dr. D
    Participant

    Did you leave the right Twitter link? That was to JLM doing no-confidence on Corbyn, with a endless list of epic (and amusing) trolling. Is the JLM Speaking to the Labour Party in that quote, or someone else? I can’t find on google.

    I’m not sure what conclusions to draw from that either. There’s a lot of factions, all disengenuous, and a lot going on everywhere, half of it true.

    Certainly given all time and reason they certainly should have an Exit vote pointing to a specific plan (or among several), but time and history are not fair like that. Games are attempted and time runs out. If it didn’t they would just use the lack of clock and time to play more games. Why? Because they have no goodwill in them, which is why they’re in politics to begin with. Any of them. So usually, as this time, everything gets done by committee (bad) while at the same time everybody also trying to sabotage everybody else (worse). It’s really the inmates running the asylum, so welcome to government. That’s why people like me want it smaller and not larger, and as a corrallary, to separate and not join. But luckily, for now this decision is not mine to make, for we have our own problems.

    #46564

    seychelles
    Participant

    Yes, the message out there is very supportive of buying gold. Which means you should run the other way. When central banks load up on gold, historically it means a big bear market is on the horizon. And we must never forget that governments can confiscate gold and that gold is impractical for everyday transactions. With FASAB56, Treasury instruments may be stolen with impunity, so don’t kid yourselves thinking gold isn’t next. There is truly no longer a safe place to sequester your after-tax savings.

    #46565

    democritus
    Participant

    It is the right twitter link. It shows JLM responding to Leave.EU. I don’t think it does their cause much good because it makes it look like the vote was motivated by anti-brexit. I am responding mainly to the Independent article. It looks like a lot of mud slinging in all directions. What is the truth? Is the labour party or Leave.UK more racist than a random selection of people?

    #46566

    V. Arnold
    Participant

    seychelles
    The government can’t confiscate what it doesn’t know about.
    Physical gold (no certificates) should always be bought in cash.
    Minted (Canadian/U.S.) gold coins are available in all denominations of U.S. currency, from a nickle on up to a dollar. Of course being gold, they will be valued accordingly.
    Those are easily spent; especially if TSHTF.
    As with life in general, caution is the by word…

    #46567

    seychelles
    Participant

    V. Arnold
    Do you really think there is much these days that our security services don’t know about, especially our real assets that are potentially available for confiscation? Do you think rule of law will be respected in such confiscations? How about people travelling through Tennessee recently with large amounts of cash, pulled over for minor traffic violations? They didn’t do too well getting their money back, did they?
    Physical gold purchases are not reportable if under 10,000 US but this is an oversimplification. See
    https://www.jmbullion.com/investing-guide/taxes-reporting-iras/gold-silver-cash-reporting/
    If physical gold is purchased it should always be checked with an anti-counterfeit device such as a Fish and should never be accepted if damaged with chips or scratches or stored in a safe deposit box or bragged about to friends, neighbors or relatives.
    I don’t think it would be easy to buy a tank of gas or a loaf of bread with a gold coin in bad times. How would the seller know it was not counterfeit? Would they want to take it to the bank or give it to another party in change, after giving you standard change, if gold was in the process of being confiscated? Regular silver coinage pre-1963 would be a more practical possibility in a period of social breakdown.
    Gold cycles over very long time periods. Again, when the bull drums are beating it is seldom the right time to buy. I doubt if it is different this time around.

    #46568

    V. Arnold
    Participant

    seychelles
    I live in a culture where gold is valued above all else. Even most poor people (I’m not talking destitute) have something gold.
    And yes, I’m aware of the Tennessee cash confication. Not very smart to travel with a large amount of cash; or gold, or silver, or anything of high value (diamond?).
    I’m not convinced the U.S. government knows all, sees all…yet! As the old saying goes: You want to keep a secret? Don’t tell anyone.
    I prefer Graeber’s long view of gold; the price paid is not important because it is and always has been a store of value and as such will always meet needs.
    Your silver coin suggestion isn’t a bad idea; but, it faces a similar problem of pricing/value as the market fluctuates; mostly upward for the forseeable future.
    Gold is considered cheap by today’s standards because it’s being manipulated (has been for decades) but with Russia and China buying record amounts that may change fairly soon.
    When fiat finally crashes; the true value of gold will move front and center, IMO.
    I would add this; keeping private and under the radar can only be done if one has no debt and no credit cards…

    #46581

    democritus
    Participant

    I don’t know what happened to my twitter links, they should have been these:

    t w i t t e r.com/JewishLabour/status/1115282710182989824

    t w i t t e r.com/OwenJones84/status/1115299916602073090

    But got mangled up somewhere into t.co

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