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      • WikiLeaks Expresses ‘Grave Concerns’ for Assange’s Health (CN) • Press Freedom is Under Threat in the Land of its Birth (CP) • Putin Has A Mu
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    #47677

    What I think I read is that Assange’s next hearing is due on June 12 in the Belmarsh prison. Will he still be alive by then? Note that today’s hearing, cancelled because of his fast deteriorating health, was scheduled to be a video one from that same prison.

    #47678
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Thinking about that term. Is it the opposite of all-dressed economic terrorism?

    LOL, same thing; different day?

    Will he still be alive by then? Note that today’s hearing, cancelled because of his fast deteriorating health, was scheduled to be a video one from that same prison.

    Good question…hopefully alive…
    But the UK can be/has been, a brutal, show no mercy, colonial power for centuries.
    Personally? I expect the worse…

    #47679
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Orlov really nailed it this time. Great read. It’s a shame Assange is taking this torture before their powers wane.

    #47680
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “If we had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so.”

    Very surprised, though I shouldn’t be, that nobody has covered the basic legal issue here. Mueller did or didn’t declare Trump innocent. Was he saying there might be a crime? If he refuses to suggest charges, doesn’t that mean he’s guilty?

    Here’s the scoop: IF you are CONVICTED of a crime, by a jury, you are GUILTY. Working backwards, a prosecutor prepares himself for the court presentation by creating a case based on evidence given to him by an INVESTIGATOR. The investigator examines evidence from witnesses, crime scenes, etc, in order to refer this raw information to the D.A./Attorney General who can then decide whether the evidence suggests any such case can be won. They empanel a GRAND JURY in order to present cursory evidence, notably WITHOUT allowing any evidence to the defense, in order to see if those public jurors will refer the case to a real and expensive trial. And since the defense can do and present nothing at that time, often not even know the event is taking place, they can “indict a ham sandwich”, since the prosecution can essentially lie, hide evidence of innocence, and get in no trouble for it.

    Okay, so what do you have when you have: No trial, No case, No Grand Jury, and you HAVE been investigated, very, very thoroughly? Innocence? No, neither the investigator nor the prosecutor can affirm your innocence, as being declared definitively “innocent” exists only in Scottish law.

    No, YOU ARE INNOCENT BECAUSE YOU ARE ALWAYS INNOCENT, walking around. YOU ARE INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. Anyone remember any of that? It used to exist in this country. Not only are you innocent until investigated, innocent until indicted, you are right through the trial after the jury retires, and remain INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.

    They’re having so much trouble with this – Mueller, Congress, the media, all of them — because they’ve forgotten the basic premise here, not having used it in 50 years. So if you’re considered innocent until convicted, how much more if no one can refer charges to the Prosecutor, or even delineate what crime MIGHT have been committed, even if they felt the case was too weak to present.

    But why do I bother? In a nation of men, not laws, law is only what I want it to be, until I want it to change and be the opposite, a minute later. Like when we investigate Russians for 3 years, but then it’s cray-cray to investigate Russians for Uranium One, Tony Podesta, or the billion from Ukraine for Biden, after he fired their prosecutor for looking into the transfers to his son. That’s NOT Russia. That’s NOT to be investigated, ‘natch. THAT’S political overreach, even though that actually happened.

    “China Accuses US of ‘Naked Economic Terrorism’ (AFP)”

    Quite correct. But they’re just jealous because they’re doing and want the same thing. As right now with Rare Earths?

    “cutting his worst-case forecast for Tesla stock from $97 to just $10”

    These guys have an amazing optimistic view of Bearishness. I’d put it at 10c, if not below zero. They were always a tax-transfer FROM the poor, carless folks in flyoverland TO the ultra-wealthy super-car buyers in San Jose. Without that money – my money – those cars cannot sell, and the company that sells no cars is worthless. Just like Solyndra, ironically ALSO a Tesla scam. But since Teslas destroy poor people, the nation, AND their drivers in gruesome fires, the sooner they die the better it is for the planet. Just like every other time the government “helped” with anything, Amtrak, school loans, home mortgages, health care — prices rise and quality falls in a straight line until the whole sector they helped collapses into rubble and utter ruin, at enormous cost. And takes MORE of my money I don’t have to fix, while billionaires like Mozillo or Daimon walk away rich.

    “He lied about Brexit by stating Britain would be 350 million pounds a week better off outside the EU…”

    I guess nobody knows because we can never find out. Wouldn’t surprise me though, the EU is dreadful and far from making money on free trade and borders, has been losing billions every year since they started.

    “The Day Einstein Became a Global Star (Dunn)”

    And yet Einstein is ALSO wrong, just as Newton was, but nobody yet knows what to replace him with, even though his theories say half the universe is unknown or missing. How big does the hole have to be before you cry Uncle?

    “Good News: Elephant Slaughter Down. Bad News: They Still Face Total Doom (AFP)”

    There’s only one solution: give elephants the right to bear arms.

    Offered for interest: Trump is trying to get the Democrats to impeach him. He knows the economy is going down, and needs them to blame it on. He also can’t be convicted, since they own the Senate, so it would be the ultimate in pointless, self-destructive virtue-signaling: their true forte’. I suggest this was always a primary plan, although they have others.

    #47681
    zerosum
    Participant

    Re. Muller Report

    WHITE NOISE,
    DISTRACTION

    During the elections, I was receiving forwarded messages that ,now, I attribute to interferences in the USA election process.

    They were all about making only one candidate the “but of the jokes”, demeaning, and non-complimentary.

    A lot of those forwarded messages were very funny. However, when I think back, since these jokes were about someone who was going to be the most powerful person on earth, I now realized that they were in oposition to the candidate, mean spirited, exagerated, and were meant to make the voters change their intention on how they were going to vote.

    Social media was beiing used to send negative messages about the candidates.

    I remember, my mother saying, “If you cannot say anything good about somebody, then don’t say anything”.

    Yesterday is gone.
    Tomorrow will not be the same as today.

    I don’t have clue of who produced all of those negative social media messages. I wish that I would have keep a file to help prove that what I’m saying did happen.

    Here is the punch line …..

    All of the demeaning jokes, insults, etc. were about,
    Trump.

    Check out your memory and see if you had the same experience.

    #47682
    NooBoob
    Participant

    they probably EMFed him Of Green Supremacist Gay Frogs
    After 30 years, solar wind power = 2% of total world energy demand. 1 ton coal = 3 solar panels.
    *The Poisoned Gender* https://lokisrevengeblog.wordpress.com/2019/05/29/the-poisoned-gender/

    #47683
    zerosum
    Participant

    Let’s keep laughing
    https://www.usnews.com/cartoons

    Cartoons
    See the best political cartoons lampooning politics, congress, gun rights and US leaders.

    #47684
    thomasjkenney
    Participant

    re: Einstein and ‘scientific expiry’, I heard on the British panel show QI a quip from Stephen Fry that ‘XX percent of all facts will be false in some number of years’ (paraphrasing), and while the numbers were not accurate, the trend is obviously there. A longtime family friend once told me that there is about a 40-year lead that science fiction stories have on reality…that is, most stuff that is incorporated into science fiction will have been invented, discovered, or calculated within the succeeding 40 years. That may actually have been a statement by one of the authors (Niven, Benford, Asimov, ???), but a quick Google doesn’t turn up anything, and I have to get back to work.


    @zerosum
    re: cartoons

    Tom Toles has always been a favorite of mine, as well as, of course, Scott Adams.

    #47686
    olo530
    Participant

    Death penalty. Nothing else works.

    Death penalty to the end users – maybe. Poachers don’t care, they are more of “get rich or die trying” persuasion. But then again, rhino horn is used by terminally ill in Vietnam. I don’t see that death threats would scare them easily.

    #47687
    anticlimactic
    Participant

    ASSANGE

    When he was arrested I thought that at least he would have medical treatment but it seems he hasn’t had any until now, and I can not imagine the prison hospital is sophisticated.

    This whole episode has degraded and defiled the reputation of every country involved. Some years ago the UK had an international reputation of being fair and honest. I think most people had respect for Sweden, and Australia was seen as amiable and friendly. Ecuador gained some admiration for the sheltering of Assange.

    No more as this trail of slime has tainted every country, all of whom seem to be breaking their own rules to give the US what they want.

    All the citizens of these countries should be worried as it could happen to any of them.

    #47688
    zerosum
    Participant

    Update:

    Bolton Alleges Iran Maritime Sabotage But Evidence Points Elsewhere


    May 29th, 2019 by Whitney Webb, is a MintPress News journalist based in Chile.


    Bolton’s statements assigning direct blame for the incident — and the related and equally minor incident of a drone attack on a Saudi oil pipeline by Yemen’s resistance movement — to Iran a day prior to the Saudi-hosted “emergency” summit on this incident are clearly meant as a signal to governments in the area. Though Bolton claimed that his public statement was directed at the “leadership in Iran,” more likely targets were the governments of the UAE, Saudi Arabia and other attendees of the summit who have still failed to follow the U.S.’ lead in blaming Iran for the incident.

    #47689
    zerosum
    Participant

    Did you hear?
    The shit hit the fan. They cannot get it cleaned up

    “U.S. Reps. Randy Weber and Lizzie Fletcher, introduced the Bipartisan Disaster Recovery Funding Act last week, with support from 13 other co-sponsors from Texas, mostly from the Houston area, as well as supporters from other communities waiting on the funding, including Louisiana, South Carolina, Florida and Puerto Rico.
    The Act directs federal agencies to release the $16 billion in disaster funds Congress approved in early 2018 following Hurricane Harvey to different states and territories—including more than $4 billion to Texas—within 60 days.
    “After Harvey hit, I fought alongside the Texas delegation to secure additional funds for Harvey survivors,” U.S. Rep. Mike McCaul. “Unfortunately, the agencies tasked with distributing these funds did not respond with the same urgency.”

    They have not come up with any new money for the present natural disasters – tornadoes, flooding etc.
    Its going to look good for GDP. Fiixing every thing broken.

    #47691
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    NooBoob
    *The Poisoned Gender*

    Nice rant; yours?

    I moved this forward from yesterday’s Debt Rattle…

    zerosum
    Did you hear?
    The shit hit the fan. They cannot get it cleaned up.

    Only the beginning; it’ll get much, much worse…

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