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Pablo Picasso The three dancers 1925

 

SARS-CoV-2 Vaccines, Breakthrough Infections and Lasting Natural Immunity (CH)
Estimating Vaccine-Induced Mortality, Part II (Crawford)
Boost The Insanity (Berenson)
90% Of Covid Patients Treated With New Israeli Drug Discharged In 5 Days (JP)
You Must Have ENJOYED Covid! (Denninger)
This Is Why You Can’t Get There From Here (Denninger)
French Cafés Sit Empty As Police Raid Outdoor Diners For Vaccine Pass (RT)
USA to Mandate COVID-19 Vaccinations in the Military (GR)
Fauci ‘Hopes’ Masks Won’t Have ‘Lasting Negative Impact’ On Young Kids (Fox)
Danger, Cover Blowing (Kunstler)
Gov. Cuomo Making Last-ditch Attempt To Avoid Impeachment (NYP)

 

 

Kory’s getting worried.

 

 

“He explains with great clarity why there has been a summer resurgence of covid in the US (ADE) and what treatments we should be giving – Vit D, Zinc, Ivermectin.”

 

 

Differences in immunity. A few articles that don’t quite fit the Debt Rattle format. Go read them.

SARS-CoV-2 Vaccines, Breakthrough Infections and Lasting Natural Immunity (CH)

The SARS-CoV-2 genome encodes for 5 proteins, which are made of chains of amino acids. For example, the virus uses the 1,273 amino acid long Spike (S) protein to infect human cells. When a COVID-19 variant is discussed, the implied variation is in S amino acid sequence. In fact, S is the only protein mentioned on the CDC’s variant webpage. You can break full length proteins into smaller fragments, called peptides, and more precisely study immunity. This allows you to tease apart vaccine and natural infection antibody responses.


Variants have specific amino acid changes. For example, the Delta variant contains about 13 amino acid changes in S, compared to the Alpha variant. These changes allow the virus to sometimes escape from antibody binding. Antibodies bind to small 5-15 amino segments called epitopes. That means several distinct antibodies can target a full length protein. The vaccines induce an immune response against S receptor binding domain (RBD), which provides many epitope targets for antibodies. However this is not the only region of of full length S protein that induces an immune response. Nor is S the only SARS-CoV-2 protein targeted by your immune system in natural immunity.

Cure-Hub’s data indicates strong antibody production against the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein after vaccination and natural infection. However, natural infection tends to produce antibodies against a greater number of targets. In fact, the 3 individuals with the most antibody targets post-immune event had a natural infection (Figure 1)

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Nice serious study, spreadsheets and all. You could win $25K through @VaccineTruth2!

Conclusion: “adjusted (excess) deaths per million vaccine doses delivered is 411 ..” (673 million doses have been administered, so 276,603 deaths)

“Win $25K if you are the first person to find an error in this paper that changes the result by a factor of 2 or more. It shows 411 vaccine deaths per million doses. This is consistent with 10 other methods.”

Estimating Vaccine-Induced Mortality, Part II (Crawford)

In Part I, I examined the first 30 days of vaccination programs throughout Europe, showing an estimated 1018 deaths per million doses (not even people—doses) of COVID-19 vaccines administered, judging by excess deaths compared to a starting baseline based on case fatality rates (CFRs). After a quick, but seemingly reasonable adjustment, I estimated 200 to 500 deaths per million doses delivered—based solely on deaths seemingly categorized as COVID-19 deaths. This would suggest, based on 4 billion doses already administered throughout the world, that 800,000 to 2,000,000 of the COVID-19 deaths recorded are actually vaccine-induced deaths. This does not even include vaccine-induced deaths that have not been recorded as COVID cases, though I suspect that latter number is smaller since the only good way to hide the vaccine mortality signal is to smuggle deaths through the already-established COVID death toll.


As a quick observation, Norway reported 23 deaths at a time when 40,000 Norwegians had been vaccinated. Forgetting about the possibility of underreporting (including lagged reporting at that moment), this total represents 575 deaths per million doses administered. When Norwegian health officials finished assessing the first thirteen of these deaths, all of them were determined to be linked to the vaccines. Meanwhile, erstwhile health authorities in the U.S. continue to behave as if examination of the bodies is completely unnecessary [for their purposes].

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“THE VACCINES MAKE YOUR CELLS PRODUCE THE SPIKE PROTEIN. YOUR BODY THEN MAKES ANTIBODIES TO THOSE PROTEINS.”

Boost The Insanity (Berenson)

The real-world data – from Israel, the United States, and everywhere else – are clear. Protection from infection fades within months even against the original coronavirus. It shrinks essentially to zero against the Delta variant (we can argue about time vs. variant effects, but the answer doesn’t matter in this context, either way the vaccines have stopped working). For now, vaccine advocates are clinging to the hope that even if the vaccines do not protect against infection, they still provide some protection against more serious illness and death. I think the jury is still out on that question, but again it is largely irrelevant for this conversation – the Covid wards are filling in Israel, and most people in them are older and vaccinated. If the vaccines do offer any help after a few months against serious illness, it is far less than the 95-99 percent protection that advocates have claimed.

Thus the move for a third shot. And possibly more shots to come. But please – please! – understand how radical a move this is. At this point, these shots are basically being pushed forward on the basis of VERY early data from VERY small trials – a few dozen volunteers, at most – showing that people had significantly more antibodies a month after receiving a third dose. I don’t doubt these slides are accurate. THE VACCINES MAKE YOUR CELLS PRODUCE THE SPIKE PROTEIN. YOUR BODY THEN MAKES ANTIBODIES TO THOSE PROTEINS. That’s what they do, and they’re very good at it. More vaccine makes your body do it more. But that’s only the beginning of what we should know before encouraging a third dose. Here’s a PARTIAL list of questions we haven’t answered:

Does a third dose of the vaccine ACTUALLY REDUCE INFECTIONS IN THOSE PEOPLE WHO RECEIVE IT? Does it reduce deaths (remember, even the original, huge Covid trials didn’t answer that question)? Will the third dose produce a transient spike in infections, as the first dose appears to? Will the antibodies last longer this time because we have more of them after the second dose, or will they decline more quickly? Does the vaccine confer ANY long-term protection through T-cell immunity? Will people who have received a third dose be vulnerable to future variants? Will they be more or less vulnerable than people who have been infected and recovered and are are naturally immune? Will the side effects – which are generally much worse after the second dose than the first – be still worse after the third?


Will some people die from those side effects? What is the overall safety profile of the third or more doses in a large population? Does it differ by age? I could go on, but I hope this is enough to show you how little we know. Offering a third dose essentially means offering an entirely new vaccine regimen. If the FDA or other regulators had any guts they would insist on a new, full-size clinical trial (a BETTER trial, one powered to detect reductions in death) before allowing it. Instead governments are rushing ahead based on what are basically early Phase 2 clinical trials – tiny and providing evidence of efficacy based on lab benchmarks rather than clinical data.

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CD24. Join the ranks of things that DO work.

90% Of Covid Patients Treated With New Israeli Drug Discharged In 5 Days (JP)

Some 93% of 90 coronavirus serious patients treated in several Greek hospitals with a new drug developed by a team at Tel Aviv’s Sourasky Medical Center as part of the Phase II trial of the treatment were discharged in five days or fewer. The Phase II trial confirmed the results of Phase I, which was conducted in Israel last winter and saw 29 out of 30 patients in moderate to serious condition recover within days. “The main goal of this study was to verify that the drug is safe,” Prof. Nadir Arber said. “To this day we have not registered any significant side effect in any patient from both groups.” The trial was conducted in Athens because Israel did not have enough relevant patients. The principal investigator was Greece’s coronavirus commissioner, Prof. Sotiris Tsiodras.

Arber and his team, including Dr. Shiran Shapira, developed the drug based on a molecule that the professor has been studying for 25 years called CD24, which is naturally present in the body. “It is important to remember that 19 out of 20 COVID-19 patients do not need any therapy,” Arber said. “After a window of five to 12 days, some 5% of the patients start to deteriorate.” The main cause of the clinical deterioration is an over activation of the immune system, also known as a cytokine storm. In case of COVID-19 patients, the system starts attacking healthy cells in the lungs. “This is exactly the problem that our drug targets,” he said. CD24 is a small protein that is anchored to the membrane of the cells and it serves many functions including regulating the mechanism responsible for the cytokine storm.


Arber stressed that their treatment, EXO-CD24, does not affect the immune system as a whole, but only targets this specific mechanism, helping find again its correct balance. “This is precision medicine,” he said. “We are very happy that we have found a tool to tackle the physiology of the disease.” “Steroids for example shut down the entire immune system,” he further explained. “We are balancing the part responsible for the cytokine storms using the endogenous mechanism of the body, meaning tools offered by the body itself.” Arber noted that another breakthrough element of this treatment is its delivery. “We are employing exosomes, very small vesicles derived from the membrane of the cells which are responsible for the exchange of information between them,” he said. “By managing to deliver them exactly where they are needed, we avoid many side effects,” he added.

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“How many lies do you let the CDC run before you call BS on the entire charade? How many people does the medical and political complex get to slaughter for profit?”

You Must Have ENJOYED Covid! (Denninger)

Well, the CDC and a number of other articles claim that natural antibodies are “poor” in quantity compared to that of the vaccines. Is that true? Not really. The distribution and type of antibodies are different; that much is certain. The vaccines produce spike protein antibodies only, where natural infection produces mostly “N” protein antibodies. In addition there is a very significant difference between CD4 and CD8 response between natural infection and the jabs. But wait: Is the CDC lying through obfuscation? That MMWR every major media outlet appears to be parroting was poorly-researched, had an extremely small sample and was wildly slanted, as damn near everything that comes out of that evil organization has been for the last 18 months. How about Lombardi, which as we all know got monkey-hammered in the early part of 2020.

“During the follow-up (mean [SD], 280 [41] days) 5 reinfections (0.31%; 95% CI, 0.03%-0.58%) were confirmed in the cohort of 1579 positive patients. Most of these patients were evaluated, treated, and followed in hospitals or dedicated COVID-19 ambulatories.6 Only 1 was hospitalized…..” Ah, they are lying. This showed an 0.3% chance of reinfection and do note that Lombardi was a situation where most of the people who got hammered were older and thus presumably at least partially immune-compromised. This does not stand alone. Here’s another paper on it showing a zero reinfection rate among over 1,000 persons who had confirmed Covid-19. Zero, of course, cannot be improved upon. It wouldn’t be the first time; if you recall the CDC previously published an MMWR claiming masks work which was based on a study that was later rejected in peer-review.

Yet to this day they continue to argue for masking in schools and elsewhere. Let’s not forget their claim that “98% of the people in the hospital with Covid are unvaccinated”; a false statement that was trivially disproved, or that “children with Covid are filling hospitals” which was also trivially disproved. Yes, kids are in the hospital this summer — in the case if Eastern Tennessee the largest group of them are in there with RSV, a viral infection that usually only comes around in the winter. Or the claim that vaccination is “97% effective” in preventing symptomatic disease; that is, if you got Covid despite being vaccinated you wouldn’t know you had because you’d have no symptoms. “The latest analysis from the MoH proves that two weeks after the second vaccine dose protection is even stronger – vaccine effectiveness was at least 97% in preventing symptomatic disease.”

That turns out to be a lie too; 11 of 14 vaccinated people got Covid at a party and they certainly knew they had it, so they were symptomatic. How many lies do you let the CDC run before you call BS on the entire charade? How many people does the medical and political complex get to slaughter for profit? They’re still sticking Redesivir in anyone who goes to the hospital for Covid at $3,000 a crack despite there being zero evidence that it actually improves outcomes at all. And, like all drugs, it has side effects — some pretty nasty ones, in fact.

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“..IPV was non-sterilizing; that is, “leaky.” Guess what? All the Covid vaccines are too. That’s bad. It is, in fact, what promotes mutation.”

This Is Why You Can’t Get There From Here (Denninger)

I’m stunned that CNN published this, to be honest. “Does it make sense that someone would want to avoid putting unknown chemicals in their body? Is it reasonable not to fully trust the pharmaceutical industry? It doesn’t take a lot of Googling to find lawsuits and settlements of billions of dollars involving harms, false claims and withheld information by drug companies. Isn’t it true that we have only short-term data on the effects and side effects of the vaccines, if only because the trials began less than two years ago?”: Why yes, yes it does. Vioxx, for one. And not just once either. There was a wee problem with the original IPV (Injected, Salk polio vaccine) too. It was contaminated with a cancer-causing agent. How many did it harm at the same time it helped? We don’t really know, but we do know it caused cancers – including in kids.

Then there’s the fact that IPV was rapidly followed by OPV, oral polio, which until the 1990s was still used in America. Why? Because IPV was non-sterilizing; that is, “leaky.” Guess what? All the Covid vaccines are too. That’s bad. It is, in fact, what promotes mutation. We’ve known that for 70 years which is why we used both. Every single so-called expert in the field knows this and that what they attempted to do this time was very likely to fail, as I pointed out before we began. Now it has failed exactly as I expected. The question becomes this: Why did those so-called “experts” go down a path that was known decades ago to be nearly-certain to not work? “And then, encourage them to talk. That’s where curiosity comes in. Ask questions, not to trap them in logical inconsistencies, but because you are truly curious about their answers. How do they compare the relative risks of vaccines and Covid? What data are they looking at? What makes them doubt the safety of the vaccine? What have they seen and heard?”


That’s the punch line, isn’t it? For those who are not morbid the data is clear: Covid is not very dangerous. Sure, it can get you. I can get run over by a car getting my mail too, but we must have perspective. I operate a motor vehicle and accept a roughly 1 in 8,000 risk of dying every year that I do. There’s nothing I can do about it, other than not drive or ride in a car.

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How is that not the scariest thing you ever saw?

French Cafés Sit Empty As Police Raid Outdoor Diners For Vaccine Pass (RT)

Police in France have begun enforcing the vaccination pass mandate to enter cafés and restaurants, leading to many of their tables being empty during the usually busy lunchtime, as the French lunched on public benches instead. On Monday, President Emmanuel Macron’s government extended the controversial ‘pass sanitaire’ requirement to dining venues, even outdoor ones, disregarding the weekend of mass protests that drew at least 250,000 people onto the streets across France. A video doing the rounds on social media, shot by a Reuters photographer, showed French police checking diners’ papers. Those without the pass face a €135 *($158) fine, which increases to €9,000 ($10,560) for a repeat offense.

Paris

By lunchtime, many sidewalk cafés were sitting completely empty as their regular customers chose instead to sit on public benches outside – according to a multitude of photos and comments posted on social media, anyway. Another video showed outdoor venues with few diners on the Champs Élysées, Paris’ main thoroughfare. There were photos of empty tables right across the city at times when such places would ordinarily be full. The famous Grande Brasserie, near the Bastille square, had a few customers inside, but no one out on its patio. One Twitter user speculated that the outdoor seating areas were empty as the result of some kind of nationwide boycott of the health pass.


The pass, introduced by Macron to compel vaccinations against Covid-19, has been mandatory for entrance to museums, movie theaters, swimming pools, and other venues since July 21. The courts have also ruled that it was constitutional to mandate vaccinations for healthcare workers, some of whom have gone on strike in protest. Facing a rising number of Covid-19 cases attributed to the Delta variant of the virus, the French authorities have pressed hard to vaccinate everyone. Meanwhile, vaccine makers Pfizer and Moderna have drastically increased the price of their vaccines in the European Union.

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Sure, we don’t know how real or severe ADE will be, but how is this wise?

USA to Mandate COVID-19 Vaccinations in the Military (GR)

The Pentagon announced today that members of the U.S. military will be required to received the COVID-19 vaccine starting Sept. 15. President Joe Biden has endorsed the Pentagon’s plan. In a memo sent out to military personnel, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said he “will seek the president’s approval to make the vaccines mandatory no later than mid-September, or immediately upon [licensure by the Food and Drug Administration], which ever comes first.” Austin noted that if cases continue to surge that he “will not hesitate to act sooner or recommend a different course to the President if I feel the need to do so. To defend this Nation , we need a healthy and ready force.”

The FDA is still in the process of giving the vaccine final approval, and Austin is hoping to dovetail this with the start of his mandate. If the approval does not come in time, a waiver from Biden will be necessary to make the shots mandatory. Biden has expressed that he would do this if the situation arises. The plan seeks to include the COVID-19 vaccine with a group of other inoculations already mandatory for those enlisted in the military. The close conditions under which service members spend their time while working together create an environment particularly prone to spreading the virus. If the infection rate were to surge within the military, the United States’ ability to respond to urgent national or international crises may be dramatically impaired.


The Pentagon has shared that over 1 million service members are fully vaccinated and that 237,000 have gotten their first dose. The six branches of the military differ significantly in their vaccination rates. Over 74% of active duty and reserve sailors in the navy have had their first dose of the vaccine. The Air Force trails this number, with just over 65% of its active duty and 60% of its reserve forces receiving their first shot. The Army, which it the U.S.’s largest military branch, is approaching just 50% partial vaccination.

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Kids are the new scapegoats.

Fauci ‘Hopes’ Masks Won’t Have ‘Lasting Negative Impact’ On Young Kids (Fox)

White House Chief Health Adviser Dr. Anthony Fauci said Monday that “hopefully” making young kids wear face masks won’t have any “lasting negative impact” on them. During an interview with conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt, Dr. Fauci said it’s important to keep an “open mind” about masking after the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommended that unvaccinated children ages 2 and older wear masks and that students wear masks in all K-12 schools, regardless of vaccination status, in light of the rapid spread of the COVID-19 delta variant. “It’s not comfortable, obviously, for children to wear masks, particularly the younger children,” he said.

“But you know, what we’re starting to see, Hugh, and I think it’s going to unfold even more as the weeks go by, that this virus not only is so extraordinarily transmissible, but we’re starting to see pediatric hospitals get more and more younger people and kids not only numerically, but what seems to be more severe disease. “Now we’re tracking that, the CDC is tracking that really very carefully, so it’s going to be a balance that we would feel very badly if we all of a sudden said OK, kids, don’t wear masks, then you find out retrospectively that this virus in a very, very strange and unusual way is really hitting kids really hard,” he continued. “But hopefully, this will be a temporary thing, temporary enough that it doesn’t have any lasting negative impact on them.”


Hewitt pushed back, citing an editorial Sunday by The Wall Street Journal, titled, “The Case Against Masks for Children,” which argues that long-term masking can cause physical and developmental issues in children and that there’s little evidence to back up a mandate. “Facial expression are integral to human connection, particularly for younger children who are only learning how to signal fear, confusion and happiness,” Hewitt said. “Covering a child’s face mutes these nonverbal form of communications, can result in robotic and emotionless interaction. So, Dr., what did you base it on? Why?” Dr. Fauci responded by claiming the data cited in the editorial “dates back to the alpha variant, not necessarily all the most recent data on delta.”

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“..Dr. Fauci just got in too deep with China’s PLA-connected bioweapons lab in his mad scientist quest to be remembered as the man who defeated all coronaviruses with a single silver bullet..”

Danger, Cover Blowing (Kunstler)

Really, the emerging questions about all this must be: 1) Have they done it on purpose? And 2) Is all the messaging confusion the result of Dr. Anthony Fauci desperately trying to cover his ass for his role in developing Covid-19, as well as the so-called vaccines marshaled to heroically defeat it? Perhaps both. You could construct a case that it was done on-purpose and, in this age of manufactured narratives, some have proposed the story that the disease was a mere excuse to introduce a slow-working lethal pseudo-vaccine to reduce the global population efficiently and drastically — so that nefarious “elites” could enjoy life (and its immortal transhuman successor state) on a planet uncluttered by billions of human riffraff. That story has seemed pretty preposterous to me.


More likely, the hyper-ambitious and heedless Dr. Fauci just got in too deep with China’s PLA-connected bioweapons lab in his mad scientist quest to be remembered as the man who defeated all coronaviruses with a single silver bullet — enabling a “release” of this virus, with (from China’s point of view) the advantageous weakening of Western economies, and the socio-political destruction of their once-cohesive cultures. If so, well done! At this point, at least half the country now distrusts and disbelieves the incoherent messages emanating from “Joe Biden’s” government about this Covid-19 problem and any attempt to force vaccinations on the “hesitant” public will pull the pin out of the national grenade that has been waiting to go off. The “insurrection” next time will be the real thing, not Nancy Pelosi’s faked-up soap opera.

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Getting the impression that Cuomo’s sexual misconduct is not that crazy, it’s just a way to get rid of him. He did much worse things.

Gov. Cuomo Making Last-ditch Attempt To Avoid Impeachment (NYP)

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo tried to cut a deal with the state Legislature — offering to drop his bid for a fourth-term in exchange for not getting impeached, The Post has learned. But no one seems to be buying what the 63-year-old governor is selling. The three-term Democrat made the dubious offer before Attorney General Letitia James’ damning report on his conduct was released last Tuesday, according to a top party official. “It was something that was floated to me by the folks in the Cuomo camp as a possible option before the attorney general’s report came out,” NYS Democratic Party Chairman Jay Jacobs told The Post, adding, “I never saw it as a viable option.”

Still, it looks like Cuomo and his winnowed-down inner circle haven’t given up on the last-ditch effort to avoid impeachment. A source told The City on Monday that the gov’s team has been busy making calls to try to save his skin in the wake of the official report, which concluded Cuomo sexually harassed at least 11 women in violation of state and federal law. He has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing. Before she resigned Sunday night, top aide and confidante Melissa DeRosa had been asking executive staffers for strategies to quiet the impeachment talks, the source told The City. Jacobs said he told the governor’s staff he didn’t think it was a plausible plan.


“I shot it down pretty quick,” Jacobs said. “Either you can survive the AG’s report and run again or you don’t survive the AG’s report. There’s no compromise.” Charlie King, a longtime Cuomo pal, was apparently among those making inquiries about the deal, a source told The Post. King denied the claim, saying, “No. He’s not running for a fourth term, period.” The governor has ignored deafening calls for his resignation coming from as high as President Biden. Sources said Steve Cohen, a longtime Cuomo adviser and a former federal prosecutor, has told Cuomo it’s time to pack it in, as has Jacobs.

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  • #83227
    Oroboros
    Participant

    @D Benton Smith

    I’m still leaning to the ‘Virus Thing” as a dumpster fire(s) to distract from the economic holocaust that the global debt bomb is poised to unleash.

    The fiat system is the walking dead. Debts that can’t be paid off won’t.

    Or as someone said, Debts are always ‘paid off’ either by the borrower or by the lender.

    In either case there will be catastrophic bankruptcy spread far and wide and that will produce quite a ‘reset’.

    As to the ‘climate thing’ and where it stands, the Overlords are actively pimping their own perverse take on that subject.

    “Save the Planet” starring 7 billion ‘little people’ living on less while their carbon foot print actually increases.

    Just like they’re pimping their own perverse take on crypto currencies to replace the dying fiat era.

    Their version of crypto is totally Centralized.

    In contrast to Bitcoin’s being totally De-centralized.

    Anything the Overlords touch turns to Gobshite.

    #83228
    Germ
    Participant

    The Vaccine accident reporting database this year is ten times the normal size, and we are only a little over halfway through the year.. Nothing to see here, move along ..

    https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/datasets.html

    #83229
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @Germ: seriously … didn’t you hear?? VAERS is no longer an accurate “early warning signal” for medical professionals, like it was in the past, because anyone – literally anyone, even your senile uncle bob – can upload whatever they want there. C’mon, man!! Get up-to-speed with 2021!!! /sarc

    #83230
    Germ
    Participant

    #83231
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @my parents: guilt is the most powerful emotion there is, provided one isn’t a sociopath, psychopath, whatever.

    When an anonymous blog post gives you a lump in your throat, beware.

    That didn’t happen when I read IMdoc’s post, it was too “made for TV” movie script-ish. And hey, IMdoc, how about you just let a couple family members in to be with that dying patient instead of wailing about someone dying alone? (but I digress …) And then, you grandly exit the chatroom for an unknown period of time because you’re too overwhelmed by …

    Thank you for bringing this particular phenom to our attention. 🙂

    #83232
    Germ
    Participant
    #83233
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    That didn’t happen when I read IMdoc’s post, it was too “made for TV” movie script-ish.

    I guess I can see why you say that. Now that I let myself think about what I read, that business about him collapsing to the floor sobbing as soon as he left the dying old woman’s room strikes me as…a bit much.

    #83234
    Archie
    Participant

    @teri

    The date/time stamp is hyperlink of sorts. Click it and you will see the url expand to include the comment number.

    #83235
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @mister … “a bit much“. Ya think? 😉 Decades of experience as a doctor and he collapses to the floor in the hall, in front of staff (underlings) and other patients because he* suddenly can’t handle it? After the post just a couple days ago that was both rational and measured? Well … ok then!!! I’m buying, whatcha sellin’?

    *not sure why I think he is a he

    #83236
    Germ
    Participant

    #83237
    those darned kids
    Participant

    smells like dr.Qanon for smarties..

    i bet there are similar characters on other similar blogs as well (if this is gchq style manipulation).

    influencers for the influentialitos, the moyenne burgercheese, the bourgeoieasy of our time. they, having been properly inFluenced, in turn push the proleplorables to act the right way.

    #83238
    ezlxa1949
    Participant

    A few snippets from the Australian Museum’s article on the Spanish Flu of 1918:

    Influenza was first noted in Australia in 1820 and reported in the Sydney Almanack of 1834.

    While influenza epidemics commonly occur each winter, there have been a number of pandemics (epidemics of worldwide proportion) in Australia’s history. These include a series of pandemics in the 1890s, 1957, 1968 and 2009. The most devastating pandemic took place in 1918–19.

    The virus mutates rapidly and constantly, meaning the human population cannot build up an enduring immunity. The flu is estimated to cause up to 3500 deaths in Australia each year.

    Unusually, the Spanish flu affected healthy young adults much more than its usual targets: children, the elderly or those with weakened immune systems. In Australia, the virus became known as ‘pneumonic influenza’.

    The first line of defence was to try to prevent the virus reaching the Australian mainland. The Australian Quarantine Service monitored the spread of the pandemic and implemented maritime quarantine on 17 October 1918 after learning of outbreaks in New Zealand and South Africa.

    The first infected ship to enter Australian waters was the Mataram, from Singapore, which arrived in Darwin on 18 October 1918. Over the next six months the service intercepted 323 vessels, 174 of which carried the infection. Of the 81,510 people who were checked, 1102 were infected.

    The federal government’s second line of defence was to establish a consistent response in handling and containing any pneumonic influenza outbreaks that might occur in Australia.

    Commonwealth Serum Laboratories was established during the First World War to alleviate Australia’s dependence on imported vaccines. In 1918 it developed its first, experimental vaccine in anticipation of pneumonic influenza reaching mainland Australia.

    Researchers did not know what caused influenza, but produced a vaccine that addressed the more serious secondary bacterial infections that were likely to cause death.

    Between 15 October 1918 and 15 March 1919, CSL produced three million free doses for Australian troops and civilians. It later evaluated the vaccines to be partially effective in preventing death in inoculated individuals.

    By the end of 1919, the influenza pandemic was over.

    Across the globe, the pandemic had had a devastating effect on a population only just beginning to recover from years of war. Many more people died from the influenza pandemic (50–100 million) than had died during the First World War (18 million).

    In Australia, while the estimated death toll of 15,000 people was still high, it was less than a quarter of the country’s 62,000 death toll from the First World War. Australia’s death rate of 2.7 per 1000 of population was one of the lowest recorded of any country during the pandemic.

    So many lessons here, so many forgotten.

    #83239
    Oroboros
    Participant

    “IM Doc” is Iraqis throwing babies out of incubators 2.0

    #83240
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Decades of experience as a doctor and he collapses to the floor in the hall, in front of staff (underlings) and other patients because he* suddenly can’t handle it?

    {/cut to the choir outside the hospital room window singing their hearts out, behind whom a large, breeze-fluttered American flag has suddenly appeared for some reason}

    #83241
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    “They Make Patients Die Alone, And We Let Them | Two Doctors React”

    6:59 minute video from December 2020

    #83242
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    According to the FLCCC, the Ivermectin dosages in the IMASK+ protocol are being increased to 0.4-0.6 mg/kg and are strongly advised “at the very first sign of symptoms.”


    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8boVvNWEAwGszR?format=jpg&name=900×900
    https://twitter.com/Covid19Critical/status/1425084297934000136

    #83243
    absolute galore
    Participant

    Just got back from the grocery store on my way home from work. I was one of the few people without a mask, just like a month and a half ago when they finally stopped requiring one. Eventually, almost nobody had a mask. Including when I shopped four days ago. (The sign says only no mask if you are fully vaccinated. I suspect I would be surrounded by a mob and pelted with fruit and veggies if they knew my status.)

    For a while, before Ivermectin, I just rolled with it–I did not seem to fall into the category of people with a high probability of dying. Then I got some Ivermectin and that really gave me a sense of an ace up my sleeve.

    Now maybe not as much. Like sumac, I’ve expressed concern about it being rendered ineffective over time. If some of the reports are true, it may have taken quite a leap, especially in how it works on more advanced disease.

    So be it. Could we be getting hit with both Marek’s and ADE? If it were Marek’s, JMG’s nightmare scenario for the vaccinated could get flipped…

    Either way, two things are clear to me right now:

    1. Unleashing these vaccines on the virus was the height of hubris, and has now turned the entire human population into a completely uncontrolled experiment.

    2. Statement number one will not be acknowledged in the mainstream narrative. Not in our lifetimes (however long that might be.) And now with even the doctors who were standing up against the system at a loss, the confusion and darkness grows, providing the perfect cover for what might really have happened/be happening.

    I do believe the whole mess was human folly and human greed and the need to exert control. Yeah, same as it ever was.

    Are we actually just getting into Delta? Or, as Fauci has threatened, is there something new out there? How would we know? At this point–Marek’s, ADE, new variant, just Delta finally hitting U.S., certain pockets of vulnerable people, or all of the above–it is all speculation. There is something strange in the land, softening us up for financial disaster, crop failures, water shortages. Gail Tverberg pointed out a while ago that we simply won’t have the treasure to continue with these massive vaccine campaigns for very long. And Jung pointed out it was our own minds, our own mass psychosis,that was the most dangerous threat.

    I’m still a little reluctant to pull out my Ace and take Ivm prophylactically–cause then where do you go if you get it anyway? Still, I plan to live my life as fearlessly as I can, and not get sucked into the techno-medical madness we’ve unleashed. That way is insane, and no way to live a life. The New Hampshire motto is starting to make a lot of sense. May we all stay grounded.

    #83244
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    I think we can all agree that whatever ADE or Delta variant is/isn’t happening, the ADE meme is growing; and buzz rules media. It can’t ignore buzz.

    #83245
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @ezlxa, so many lessons learned, yes. But are the motives of those in control now at all similar to the motives of a couple centuries ago? What are we actually seeing now and why? There are good comments here on TAE asking why we can’t have open conversations and debates about what is going on and how to cope with it. Honesty and openness by those with control would have made a tremendous difference. Distrust, censoring, forcing has resulted in this fiasco. Toothpaste is out of the tube. Good luck putting it back in.

    #83246
    Germ
    Participant

    “Boys are 14 times more likely to be struck down with a rare heart complication called myocarditis. ”

    “Association of Myocarditis With BNT162b2 Messenger RNA COVID-19 Vaccine in a Case Series of Children”
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2783052

    #83247
    absolute galore
    Participant

    cafone wrote: I think we can all agree that whatever ADE or Delta variant is/isn’t happening, the ADE meme is growing; and buzz rules media. It can’t ignore buzz.

    The Delta variant, yes. But you have seen ADE discussed majorly in a major media source? JMG notwithstanding, many of the “memes” we chat about are completely unknown to the majority of consumers of msm. Not only because the bigger outlets don’t mention them, but because many of the smaller ones get censored.

    The reason ADE will have an even tougher row to hoe than Ivermectin or adverse reactions is because it makes the cure worse than the disease, and nobody wants to hear that. I guess we will have to wait for reliable type sources to note some kind of patterns that might make sense and provide us with information.

    At this point I will confess that I am addicted, literally, to checking for more news, further developments, new discoveries, new facts about old discoveries, the vain hope that a few msm reporters outside of just Fox will report something resembling truth. I imagine this, like most addictions, to be a not terribly healthy pastime. Although there is some virtual relief knowing there are likeminded individuals floating around out there somewhere. (Apparently, perhaps,a statistically high proportion of them in Portland;^)

    #83248
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “There’s been a lot of complaints lately about America’s continued activity in the field of biological weapons development, as there’s a growing list of reasons for those complaints to appear. One of the primary ones is the ongoing activity of more than 400 military biological laboratories created by the United States in 25 countries, including former Soviet republics – Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Moldova, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan.”

    link

    #83249
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @madam, “created by the United States … ” They’re all in it together. It’s called collaborating. Let’s stop pretending all these other countries are somehow innocent babes being taken advantage of.

    #83250
    those darned kids
    Participant

    the hook of fear*

    the hook of fear
    snags passerby,
    the unaware and wise alike.

    the hook of fear
    gores the writhing catch,
    leaving entrails on the oily deck.

    the hook of fear
    lances soles and pierces souls,
    turning the once strong into lame.

    the hook of fear
    traps in barbs of lies, our lives,
    our loves, our wit, our will.

    *i can’t remember who used this expression the other day..

    #83251
    those darned kids
    Participant

    Let’s stop pretending all these other countries are somehow innocent babes being taken advantage of.

    indeed, and if i may:

    let’s stop pretending the idea of countries means anything to the owner of a private jet.

    #83252
    russellnblbs
    Participant

    I’ve started to notice something here in Aus that is strange but interesting in that it seems the differentiation is not just going on between class per se but also between towns that are quite close geographically but different landscapes/economies. I live in between two large regional centres, one double the size of the other, and have noticed very different reactions between the inhabitants of both.

    Town A:

    -Largest of the two verging on a city, settled earlier, predominantly white population with only limited recent immigrants.

    -Mostly middle class although with a large welfare class.

    -Economy based originally on resource extraction but now large enough to be based mostly of services with some manufacturing and continuing resource extraction.

    -Shocking amount of buy-in to the Covid narrative, extreme adherence to restrictions, shaming for not wearing a mask, high vaxx rate, scanning for businesses etc. Neighbours dobbing other neighbours in. Everyone I know from there besides a few from the poorer end of town is getting jabbed.

    Town B

    – Smaller and more decentralised with smaller towns dotted around it. Settled later and very multicultural with a large recent immigrant population along with a large First Nations population.

    -More like a third world country with wealth distribution; extreme wealth at the top but a very large working class and welfare class. Also a large organised crime element and crime rate is generally quite high.

    -Economy based around agriculture and food processing.

    -Skepticism of the Covid narrative. Low Vaxx rate, relaxed mask wearing, even in same franchise that in town A would be strict, not much attention given to restrictions, large amounts of civil disobedience and no dobbing to authorities. Everyone I know from there is not getting jabbed or only will in the most extreme of circumstances.

    Now I’m not quite sure what this means. I know Greer mentioned that something similar was being observed in providence/east providence where he lives. Note that this is not going on class lines either as middle class people in town B are skeptical whereas middle class in town A are believers.

    Can anyone comment on seeing something similar going on in the other Anglo countries?

    #83253
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    That’s really something to think about. The big argument against the gold standard is that it promotes deflation too much. But if fiat only gives us the ability to inflate our appetite for expansion and consumption, then woe to health of the planet!

    Fiat fake money has enabled expansion and consumption of WAR, which prior to money for nuthin’, chicks for free was generally prohibitively cost intensive, keeping a leash on nation building for purely political/cultural purposes.

    The MIC would never have grown to the cancerous empowered parasite that Eisenhower warned US about without its evil twin the federal reserve.

    All part of the plan, baked in the cake, just another business conspiracy to rape, pillage & plunder…

    All supported by the U$ofA$$holes ~ Selfish, uninteresting & improperly educated people that despise the Loving, Healing Creative Power of the Universe.

    This is THE problem, why the collapse of the Sons of Liberty’s gifts has transpired, why there is no -0- hope…

    All there is left to do is connect with the Light within & calmly witness the unassailable implosion of western civilization.

    Oh, there will also be a lot of whinging, weeping & gnashing of teeth by those not in self-centered trances, who will be disturbed by the twilight zone insanity of Klown World, but missing the silver bullet panacea because it’s either too simple and/or archaic…

    Gonna be one HELL of a ride 😉

    #83254
    deflationista
    Participant

    The commentary on this site reads like a special segment from the My Pillow Guy’s Cyber Symposium. And, just as factual.

    The misinformation and fear being thrown around in here is truly astounding.

    #83255
    sumac.carol
    Participant

    Even with no vaccine, resistance to ivermectin has been observed in livestock all over the world. Google ivermectin livestock resistance and you will find lots of articles. From what I have read, ivermectin has quite a broad range of action. However, my understanding is that very little beats garlic. Interesting side note: an Alberta farm was robbed of 1500 garlic – pulled right out of the ground at their farm.
    Recipe for fire cider: https://blog.mountainroseherbs.com/fire-cider
    No you don’t need to use all ingredients – the more you use the better the effect.
    Note: I do not let my fire cider sit like this— I just put all ingredients in the blender and bled for about five minutes, then strain out the solid stuff, leaving the vinegar infused with the juices from the garlic etc. This way is quicker, but Rosemary Gladstar is the guru…up to you which way you want to make it.
    Dosage: From Jon Barron for his fire cider (sold in 2 oz bottles)
    one bottle per day for the first four days after you notice symptoms and then one bottle used at 10 droppers per day for the next six days to allow your adaptive immune system to “learn” the pathogen and get up to speed.

    #83256
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @sumac: thank you.

    #83257
    sumac.carol
    Participant

    Great backgrounder from Jon Barron explaining the limits of big pharma approaches to bacterial and viral diseases and why natural pathogen destroyers are so much more effective:

    Using Natural Anti-Pathogens

    #83258
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    “The misinformation and fear being thrown around in here is truly astounding.”

    This is the money shot, folks – it’s all on us!!! Mainstream has not thrown around misinformation or fear in any way, shape, or form over the past 18 months.

    And here I was worried about my grandchildren’s future. Whew! Relief at last.

    #83259
    sumac.carol
    Participant

    PS : the droppers are just those plastic dropper tools with the top that you squeeze. Jon Barron’s dropper holds 1ml. Again you don’t have to be that precise. I take it with food and dilute it in a glass of water.

    #83260
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @sumac: understood on droppers. How I take herbs, etc., now. Not precise. We aren’t talking pharma here. 😉

    #83261
    absolute galore
    Participant

    The Times, trying to explain away worrying trends, pretending like they know something. (It’s beginning of month, so was able to get in and get a link)

    “The more infection rates go up in the background, the more you’re going to see disease among people who were immunized,”

    “Breakthrough” for Dummies, from the NYT:
    As more people get shots, the percentage of hospitalizations and deaths among fully vaccinated people should rise. This may seem counterintuitive, so it’s important to understand why.

    In a state with a high vaccination rate, a higher percentage of breakthroughs may simply reflect that fully vaccinated people are a bigger chunk of the population, or that there are few hospitalizations and deaths overall. Imagine a state where just two people are hospitalized but both are vaccinated — breakthroughs would account for 100 percent of the hospitalizations in that state, even though these cases were very rare.

    To calm people down about the Delta variant, the Times put a big graphic on the front page, saying that 1-5%of hospitalizations and 2-5% of deaths were breakthrough cases. However, a bit further in, we get this:
    While vaccines have done a remarkable job at protecting a vast majority of people from serious illness, the data in the Times analysis generally spanned the period from the start of the vaccination campaign until mid-June or July, before the Delta variant became predominant in the United States.

    Fun with numbers:
    Although at least 80 percent of people 65 and older are vaccinated in the United States, surging cases could still present an elevated risk for them. ...

    then next paragraph, they switch to total population of a single state, NOT percentage over 65:

    In Mississippi — where only about 35 percent of the population is fully vaccinated and where infections and hospitalizations have been surging — vaccinated older people and people with weaker immune systems have been overrepresented among those hospitalized and dying, according to the state health department.

    Message to readers: Not to worry, they may be vaccinated, but they are still the old and weak.

    Which, if that is the cohort most likely to get severly ill and die, while most of the rest of the population (to this point) has a very low risk of serious illness or death, why are there vaccines?

    It’s basically a free for all, using apples, oranges, and other numbers in whatever way will be most palatable to Times readers.

    #83262
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    The fact remains that the vaccine was supposed to keep you out of the hospital, but there’s clearly no sort of guarantee on that.

    #83263
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    In pondering the *pillow guy* reference a bit longer … there was a bunch of fanfare gushing from Cuomosexuals, who by now may be hiding their heads under their pillows. Is that what the pillow guy symposium is referencing?

    #metoo … go, team, go!!! Wait, that can’t be right … getting so confused. 😉

    #83264
    ezlxa1949
    Participant

    Finding ivermectin in Oz

    Owing to the slow spread of the plague here, I’ve not needed to find a source of supply of IVM. It’s a prescription-only medication here, and I haven’t tried importing any from India. I suspect it would not make it through Customs.

    A horse paste exists which contains the forbidden substance. I won’t name it lest it be banned or jumped on or whatever. Yesterday I went to several internet-based outlets and found that it’s out of stock. Hmmm.

    #83265
    those darned kids
    Participant

    deflationista: it seems you believe certain things about our current “situation”, and most of these things seem to be in line with what our governments have been telling us.

    do you believe what our governments tell us about foreign policy? yes/no why/why not?
    do you believe what our governments tell us about environmental policy? yes/no why/why not?
    do you believe what our governments tell us about military policy? yes/no why/why not?
    do you believe what our governments tell us about infrastructure policy? yes/no why/why not?
    do you believe what our governments tell us about monetary policy? yes/no why/why not?

    just curious..

    #83266
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Chris Martenson talks about the MATH+ treatment protocol, and as that involved the “I” word, I should post the video now before YouTube possibly deletes it.

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