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Pablo Picasso The three dancers 1925

 

SARS-CoV-2 Vaccines, Breakthrough Infections and Lasting Natural Immunity (CH)
Estimating Vaccine-Induced Mortality, Part II (Crawford)
Boost The Insanity (Berenson)
90% Of Covid Patients Treated With New Israeli Drug Discharged In 5 Days (JP)
You Must Have ENJOYED Covid! (Denninger)
This Is Why You Can’t Get There From Here (Denninger)
French Cafés Sit Empty As Police Raid Outdoor Diners For Vaccine Pass (RT)
USA to Mandate COVID-19 Vaccinations in the Military (GR)
Fauci ‘Hopes’ Masks Won’t Have ‘Lasting Negative Impact’ On Young Kids (Fox)
Danger, Cover Blowing (Kunstler)
Gov. Cuomo Making Last-ditch Attempt To Avoid Impeachment (NYP)

 

 

Kory’s getting worried.

 

 

“He explains with great clarity why there has been a summer resurgence of covid in the US (ADE) and what treatments we should be giving – Vit D, Zinc, Ivermectin.”

 

 

Differences in immunity. A few articles that don’t quite fit the Debt Rattle format. Go read them.

SARS-CoV-2 Vaccines, Breakthrough Infections and Lasting Natural Immunity (CH)

The SARS-CoV-2 genome encodes for 5 proteins, which are made of chains of amino acids. For example, the virus uses the 1,273 amino acid long Spike (S) protein to infect human cells. When a COVID-19 variant is discussed, the implied variation is in S amino acid sequence. In fact, S is the only protein mentioned on the CDC’s variant webpage. You can break full length proteins into smaller fragments, called peptides, and more precisely study immunity. This allows you to tease apart vaccine and natural infection antibody responses.


Variants have specific amino acid changes. For example, the Delta variant contains about 13 amino acid changes in S, compared to the Alpha variant. These changes allow the virus to sometimes escape from antibody binding. Antibodies bind to small 5-15 amino segments called epitopes. That means several distinct antibodies can target a full length protein. The vaccines induce an immune response against S receptor binding domain (RBD), which provides many epitope targets for antibodies. However this is not the only region of of full length S protein that induces an immune response. Nor is S the only SARS-CoV-2 protein targeted by your immune system in natural immunity.

Cure-Hub’s data indicates strong antibody production against the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein after vaccination and natural infection. However, natural infection tends to produce antibodies against a greater number of targets. In fact, the 3 individuals with the most antibody targets post-immune event had a natural infection (Figure 1)

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Nice serious study, spreadsheets and all. You could win $25K through @VaccineTruth2!

Conclusion: “adjusted (excess) deaths per million vaccine doses delivered is 411 ..” (673 million doses have been administered, so 276,603 deaths)

“Win $25K if you are the first person to find an error in this paper that changes the result by a factor of 2 or more. It shows 411 vaccine deaths per million doses. This is consistent with 10 other methods.”

Estimating Vaccine-Induced Mortality, Part II (Crawford)

In Part I, I examined the first 30 days of vaccination programs throughout Europe, showing an estimated 1018 deaths per million doses (not even people—doses) of COVID-19 vaccines administered, judging by excess deaths compared to a starting baseline based on case fatality rates (CFRs). After a quick, but seemingly reasonable adjustment, I estimated 200 to 500 deaths per million doses delivered—based solely on deaths seemingly categorized as COVID-19 deaths. This would suggest, based on 4 billion doses already administered throughout the world, that 800,000 to 2,000,000 of the COVID-19 deaths recorded are actually vaccine-induced deaths. This does not even include vaccine-induced deaths that have not been recorded as COVID cases, though I suspect that latter number is smaller since the only good way to hide the vaccine mortality signal is to smuggle deaths through the already-established COVID death toll.


As a quick observation, Norway reported 23 deaths at a time when 40,000 Norwegians had been vaccinated. Forgetting about the possibility of underreporting (including lagged reporting at that moment), this total represents 575 deaths per million doses administered. When Norwegian health officials finished assessing the first thirteen of these deaths, all of them were determined to be linked to the vaccines. Meanwhile, erstwhile health authorities in the U.S. continue to behave as if examination of the bodies is completely unnecessary [for their purposes].

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“THE VACCINES MAKE YOUR CELLS PRODUCE THE SPIKE PROTEIN. YOUR BODY THEN MAKES ANTIBODIES TO THOSE PROTEINS.”

Boost The Insanity (Berenson)

The real-world data – from Israel, the United States, and everywhere else – are clear. Protection from infection fades within months even against the original coronavirus. It shrinks essentially to zero against the Delta variant (we can argue about time vs. variant effects, but the answer doesn’t matter in this context, either way the vaccines have stopped working). For now, vaccine advocates are clinging to the hope that even if the vaccines do not protect against infection, they still provide some protection against more serious illness and death. I think the jury is still out on that question, but again it is largely irrelevant for this conversation – the Covid wards are filling in Israel, and most people in them are older and vaccinated. If the vaccines do offer any help after a few months against serious illness, it is far less than the 95-99 percent protection that advocates have claimed.

Thus the move for a third shot. And possibly more shots to come. But please – please! – understand how radical a move this is. At this point, these shots are basically being pushed forward on the basis of VERY early data from VERY small trials – a few dozen volunteers, at most – showing that people had significantly more antibodies a month after receiving a third dose. I don’t doubt these slides are accurate. THE VACCINES MAKE YOUR CELLS PRODUCE THE SPIKE PROTEIN. YOUR BODY THEN MAKES ANTIBODIES TO THOSE PROTEINS. That’s what they do, and they’re very good at it. More vaccine makes your body do it more. But that’s only the beginning of what we should know before encouraging a third dose. Here’s a PARTIAL list of questions we haven’t answered:

Does a third dose of the vaccine ACTUALLY REDUCE INFECTIONS IN THOSE PEOPLE WHO RECEIVE IT? Does it reduce deaths (remember, even the original, huge Covid trials didn’t answer that question)? Will the third dose produce a transient spike in infections, as the first dose appears to? Will the antibodies last longer this time because we have more of them after the second dose, or will they decline more quickly? Does the vaccine confer ANY long-term protection through T-cell immunity? Will people who have received a third dose be vulnerable to future variants? Will they be more or less vulnerable than people who have been infected and recovered and are are naturally immune? Will the side effects – which are generally much worse after the second dose than the first – be still worse after the third?


Will some people die from those side effects? What is the overall safety profile of the third or more doses in a large population? Does it differ by age? I could go on, but I hope this is enough to show you how little we know. Offering a third dose essentially means offering an entirely new vaccine regimen. If the FDA or other regulators had any guts they would insist on a new, full-size clinical trial (a BETTER trial, one powered to detect reductions in death) before allowing it. Instead governments are rushing ahead based on what are basically early Phase 2 clinical trials – tiny and providing evidence of efficacy based on lab benchmarks rather than clinical data.

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CD24. Join the ranks of things that DO work.

90% Of Covid Patients Treated With New Israeli Drug Discharged In 5 Days (JP)

Some 93% of 90 coronavirus serious patients treated in several Greek hospitals with a new drug developed by a team at Tel Aviv’s Sourasky Medical Center as part of the Phase II trial of the treatment were discharged in five days or fewer. The Phase II trial confirmed the results of Phase I, which was conducted in Israel last winter and saw 29 out of 30 patients in moderate to serious condition recover within days. “The main goal of this study was to verify that the drug is safe,” Prof. Nadir Arber said. “To this day we have not registered any significant side effect in any patient from both groups.” The trial was conducted in Athens because Israel did not have enough relevant patients. The principal investigator was Greece’s coronavirus commissioner, Prof. Sotiris Tsiodras.

Arber and his team, including Dr. Shiran Shapira, developed the drug based on a molecule that the professor has been studying for 25 years called CD24, which is naturally present in the body. “It is important to remember that 19 out of 20 COVID-19 patients do not need any therapy,” Arber said. “After a window of five to 12 days, some 5% of the patients start to deteriorate.” The main cause of the clinical deterioration is an over activation of the immune system, also known as a cytokine storm. In case of COVID-19 patients, the system starts attacking healthy cells in the lungs. “This is exactly the problem that our drug targets,” he said. CD24 is a small protein that is anchored to the membrane of the cells and it serves many functions including regulating the mechanism responsible for the cytokine storm.


Arber stressed that their treatment, EXO-CD24, does not affect the immune system as a whole, but only targets this specific mechanism, helping find again its correct balance. “This is precision medicine,” he said. “We are very happy that we have found a tool to tackle the physiology of the disease.” “Steroids for example shut down the entire immune system,” he further explained. “We are balancing the part responsible for the cytokine storms using the endogenous mechanism of the body, meaning tools offered by the body itself.” Arber noted that another breakthrough element of this treatment is its delivery. “We are employing exosomes, very small vesicles derived from the membrane of the cells which are responsible for the exchange of information between them,” he said. “By managing to deliver them exactly where they are needed, we avoid many side effects,” he added.

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“How many lies do you let the CDC run before you call BS on the entire charade? How many people does the medical and political complex get to slaughter for profit?”

You Must Have ENJOYED Covid! (Denninger)

Well, the CDC and a number of other articles claim that natural antibodies are “poor” in quantity compared to that of the vaccines. Is that true? Not really. The distribution and type of antibodies are different; that much is certain. The vaccines produce spike protein antibodies only, where natural infection produces mostly “N” protein antibodies. In addition there is a very significant difference between CD4 and CD8 response between natural infection and the jabs. But wait: Is the CDC lying through obfuscation? That MMWR every major media outlet appears to be parroting was poorly-researched, had an extremely small sample and was wildly slanted, as damn near everything that comes out of that evil organization has been for the last 18 months. How about Lombardi, which as we all know got monkey-hammered in the early part of 2020.

“During the follow-up (mean [SD], 280 [41] days) 5 reinfections (0.31%; 95% CI, 0.03%-0.58%) were confirmed in the cohort of 1579 positive patients. Most of these patients were evaluated, treated, and followed in hospitals or dedicated COVID-19 ambulatories.6 Only 1 was hospitalized…..” Ah, they are lying. This showed an 0.3% chance of reinfection and do note that Lombardi was a situation where most of the people who got hammered were older and thus presumably at least partially immune-compromised. This does not stand alone. Here’s another paper on it showing a zero reinfection rate among over 1,000 persons who had confirmed Covid-19. Zero, of course, cannot be improved upon. It wouldn’t be the first time; if you recall the CDC previously published an MMWR claiming masks work which was based on a study that was later rejected in peer-review.

Yet to this day they continue to argue for masking in schools and elsewhere. Let’s not forget their claim that “98% of the people in the hospital with Covid are unvaccinated”; a false statement that was trivially disproved, or that “children with Covid are filling hospitals” which was also trivially disproved. Yes, kids are in the hospital this summer — in the case if Eastern Tennessee the largest group of them are in there with RSV, a viral infection that usually only comes around in the winter. Or the claim that vaccination is “97% effective” in preventing symptomatic disease; that is, if you got Covid despite being vaccinated you wouldn’t know you had because you’d have no symptoms. “The latest analysis from the MoH proves that two weeks after the second vaccine dose protection is even stronger – vaccine effectiveness was at least 97% in preventing symptomatic disease.”

That turns out to be a lie too; 11 of 14 vaccinated people got Covid at a party and they certainly knew they had it, so they were symptomatic. How many lies do you let the CDC run before you call BS on the entire charade? How many people does the medical and political complex get to slaughter for profit? They’re still sticking Redesivir in anyone who goes to the hospital for Covid at $3,000 a crack despite there being zero evidence that it actually improves outcomes at all. And, like all drugs, it has side effects — some pretty nasty ones, in fact.

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“..IPV was non-sterilizing; that is, “leaky.” Guess what? All the Covid vaccines are too. That’s bad. It is, in fact, what promotes mutation.”

This Is Why You Can’t Get There From Here (Denninger)

I’m stunned that CNN published this, to be honest. “Does it make sense that someone would want to avoid putting unknown chemicals in their body? Is it reasonable not to fully trust the pharmaceutical industry? It doesn’t take a lot of Googling to find lawsuits and settlements of billions of dollars involving harms, false claims and withheld information by drug companies. Isn’t it true that we have only short-term data on the effects and side effects of the vaccines, if only because the trials began less than two years ago?”: Why yes, yes it does. Vioxx, for one. And not just once either. There was a wee problem with the original IPV (Injected, Salk polio vaccine) too. It was contaminated with a cancer-causing agent. How many did it harm at the same time it helped? We don’t really know, but we do know it caused cancers – including in kids.

Then there’s the fact that IPV was rapidly followed by OPV, oral polio, which until the 1990s was still used in America. Why? Because IPV was non-sterilizing; that is, “leaky.” Guess what? All the Covid vaccines are too. That’s bad. It is, in fact, what promotes mutation. We’ve known that for 70 years which is why we used both. Every single so-called expert in the field knows this and that what they attempted to do this time was very likely to fail, as I pointed out before we began. Now it has failed exactly as I expected. The question becomes this: Why did those so-called “experts” go down a path that was known decades ago to be nearly-certain to not work? “And then, encourage them to talk. That’s where curiosity comes in. Ask questions, not to trap them in logical inconsistencies, but because you are truly curious about their answers. How do they compare the relative risks of vaccines and Covid? What data are they looking at? What makes them doubt the safety of the vaccine? What have they seen and heard?”


That’s the punch line, isn’t it? For those who are not morbid the data is clear: Covid is not very dangerous. Sure, it can get you. I can get run over by a car getting my mail too, but we must have perspective. I operate a motor vehicle and accept a roughly 1 in 8,000 risk of dying every year that I do. There’s nothing I can do about it, other than not drive or ride in a car.

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How is that not the scariest thing you ever saw?

French Cafés Sit Empty As Police Raid Outdoor Diners For Vaccine Pass (RT)

Police in France have begun enforcing the vaccination pass mandate to enter cafés and restaurants, leading to many of their tables being empty during the usually busy lunchtime, as the French lunched on public benches instead. On Monday, President Emmanuel Macron’s government extended the controversial ‘pass sanitaire’ requirement to dining venues, even outdoor ones, disregarding the weekend of mass protests that drew at least 250,000 people onto the streets across France. A video doing the rounds on social media, shot by a Reuters photographer, showed French police checking diners’ papers. Those without the pass face a €135 *($158) fine, which increases to €9,000 ($10,560) for a repeat offense.

Paris

By lunchtime, many sidewalk cafés were sitting completely empty as their regular customers chose instead to sit on public benches outside – according to a multitude of photos and comments posted on social media, anyway. Another video showed outdoor venues with few diners on the Champs Élysées, Paris’ main thoroughfare. There were photos of empty tables right across the city at times when such places would ordinarily be full. The famous Grande Brasserie, near the Bastille square, had a few customers inside, but no one out on its patio. One Twitter user speculated that the outdoor seating areas were empty as the result of some kind of nationwide boycott of the health pass.


The pass, introduced by Macron to compel vaccinations against Covid-19, has been mandatory for entrance to museums, movie theaters, swimming pools, and other venues since July 21. The courts have also ruled that it was constitutional to mandate vaccinations for healthcare workers, some of whom have gone on strike in protest. Facing a rising number of Covid-19 cases attributed to the Delta variant of the virus, the French authorities have pressed hard to vaccinate everyone. Meanwhile, vaccine makers Pfizer and Moderna have drastically increased the price of their vaccines in the European Union.

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Sure, we don’t know how real or severe ADE will be, but how is this wise?

USA to Mandate COVID-19 Vaccinations in the Military (GR)

The Pentagon announced today that members of the U.S. military will be required to received the COVID-19 vaccine starting Sept. 15. President Joe Biden has endorsed the Pentagon’s plan. In a memo sent out to military personnel, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said he “will seek the president’s approval to make the vaccines mandatory no later than mid-September, or immediately upon [licensure by the Food and Drug Administration], which ever comes first.” Austin noted that if cases continue to surge that he “will not hesitate to act sooner or recommend a different course to the President if I feel the need to do so. To defend this Nation , we need a healthy and ready force.”

The FDA is still in the process of giving the vaccine final approval, and Austin is hoping to dovetail this with the start of his mandate. If the approval does not come in time, a waiver from Biden will be necessary to make the shots mandatory. Biden has expressed that he would do this if the situation arises. The plan seeks to include the COVID-19 vaccine with a group of other inoculations already mandatory for those enlisted in the military. The close conditions under which service members spend their time while working together create an environment particularly prone to spreading the virus. If the infection rate were to surge within the military, the United States’ ability to respond to urgent national or international crises may be dramatically impaired.


The Pentagon has shared that over 1 million service members are fully vaccinated and that 237,000 have gotten their first dose. The six branches of the military differ significantly in their vaccination rates. Over 74% of active duty and reserve sailors in the navy have had their first dose of the vaccine. The Air Force trails this number, with just over 65% of its active duty and 60% of its reserve forces receiving their first shot. The Army, which it the U.S.’s largest military branch, is approaching just 50% partial vaccination.

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Kids are the new scapegoats.

Fauci ‘Hopes’ Masks Won’t Have ‘Lasting Negative Impact’ On Young Kids (Fox)

White House Chief Health Adviser Dr. Anthony Fauci said Monday that “hopefully” making young kids wear face masks won’t have any “lasting negative impact” on them. During an interview with conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt, Dr. Fauci said it’s important to keep an “open mind” about masking after the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommended that unvaccinated children ages 2 and older wear masks and that students wear masks in all K-12 schools, regardless of vaccination status, in light of the rapid spread of the COVID-19 delta variant. “It’s not comfortable, obviously, for children to wear masks, particularly the younger children,” he said.

“But you know, what we’re starting to see, Hugh, and I think it’s going to unfold even more as the weeks go by, that this virus not only is so extraordinarily transmissible, but we’re starting to see pediatric hospitals get more and more younger people and kids not only numerically, but what seems to be more severe disease. “Now we’re tracking that, the CDC is tracking that really very carefully, so it’s going to be a balance that we would feel very badly if we all of a sudden said OK, kids, don’t wear masks, then you find out retrospectively that this virus in a very, very strange and unusual way is really hitting kids really hard,” he continued. “But hopefully, this will be a temporary thing, temporary enough that it doesn’t have any lasting negative impact on them.”


Hewitt pushed back, citing an editorial Sunday by The Wall Street Journal, titled, “The Case Against Masks for Children,” which argues that long-term masking can cause physical and developmental issues in children and that there’s little evidence to back up a mandate. “Facial expression are integral to human connection, particularly for younger children who are only learning how to signal fear, confusion and happiness,” Hewitt said. “Covering a child’s face mutes these nonverbal form of communications, can result in robotic and emotionless interaction. So, Dr., what did you base it on? Why?” Dr. Fauci responded by claiming the data cited in the editorial “dates back to the alpha variant, not necessarily all the most recent data on delta.”

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“..Dr. Fauci just got in too deep with China’s PLA-connected bioweapons lab in his mad scientist quest to be remembered as the man who defeated all coronaviruses with a single silver bullet..”

Danger, Cover Blowing (Kunstler)

Really, the emerging questions about all this must be: 1) Have they done it on purpose? And 2) Is all the messaging confusion the result of Dr. Anthony Fauci desperately trying to cover his ass for his role in developing Covid-19, as well as the so-called vaccines marshaled to heroically defeat it? Perhaps both. You could construct a case that it was done on-purpose and, in this age of manufactured narratives, some have proposed the story that the disease was a mere excuse to introduce a slow-working lethal pseudo-vaccine to reduce the global population efficiently and drastically — so that nefarious “elites” could enjoy life (and its immortal transhuman successor state) on a planet uncluttered by billions of human riffraff. That story has seemed pretty preposterous to me.


More likely, the hyper-ambitious and heedless Dr. Fauci just got in too deep with China’s PLA-connected bioweapons lab in his mad scientist quest to be remembered as the man who defeated all coronaviruses with a single silver bullet — enabling a “release” of this virus, with (from China’s point of view) the advantageous weakening of Western economies, and the socio-political destruction of their once-cohesive cultures. If so, well done! At this point, at least half the country now distrusts and disbelieves the incoherent messages emanating from “Joe Biden’s” government about this Covid-19 problem and any attempt to force vaccinations on the “hesitant” public will pull the pin out of the national grenade that has been waiting to go off. The “insurrection” next time will be the real thing, not Nancy Pelosi’s faked-up soap opera.

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Getting the impression that Cuomo’s sexual misconduct is not that crazy, it’s just a way to get rid of him. He did much worse things.

Gov. Cuomo Making Last-ditch Attempt To Avoid Impeachment (NYP)

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo tried to cut a deal with the state Legislature — offering to drop his bid for a fourth-term in exchange for not getting impeached, The Post has learned. But no one seems to be buying what the 63-year-old governor is selling. The three-term Democrat made the dubious offer before Attorney General Letitia James’ damning report on his conduct was released last Tuesday, according to a top party official. “It was something that was floated to me by the folks in the Cuomo camp as a possible option before the attorney general’s report came out,” NYS Democratic Party Chairman Jay Jacobs told The Post, adding, “I never saw it as a viable option.”

Still, it looks like Cuomo and his winnowed-down inner circle haven’t given up on the last-ditch effort to avoid impeachment. A source told The City on Monday that the gov’s team has been busy making calls to try to save his skin in the wake of the official report, which concluded Cuomo sexually harassed at least 11 women in violation of state and federal law. He has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing. Before she resigned Sunday night, top aide and confidante Melissa DeRosa had been asking executive staffers for strategies to quiet the impeachment talks, the source told The City. Jacobs said he told the governor’s staff he didn’t think it was a plausible plan.


“I shot it down pretty quick,” Jacobs said. “Either you can survive the AG’s report and run again or you don’t survive the AG’s report. There’s no compromise.” Charlie King, a longtime Cuomo pal, was apparently among those making inquiries about the deal, a source told The Post. King denied the claim, saying, “No. He’s not running for a fourth term, period.” The governor has ignored deafening calls for his resignation coming from as high as President Biden. Sources said Steve Cohen, a longtime Cuomo adviser and a former federal prosecutor, has told Cuomo it’s time to pack it in, as has Jacobs.

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    Pablo Picasso The three dancers 1925   • SARS-CoV-2 Vaccines, Breakthrough Infections and Lasting Natural Immunity (CH) • Estimating Vaccine-Indu
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle August 10 2021]

    #83136
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    collectively we’re lost…
    IVM is the only proven adjunct that effectivily fights covid and it’s what we have…

    #83137
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Frankly, I’m sick of this whole fucking, manufactured mess…I’m done with it…
    The solution is as plain as your face in the mirror…

    #83138
    a kullervo
    Participant

    The elite has to spend resources on the rabble in order to extract what they need from it; why not, then, maximize the Return Over Investment by ensuring a certain amount of entertainment value via the sadistic use of coercion and fear?

    #83139
    Germ
    Participant

    22 Jul 21, Moderna just began a study of the Vaxx and Pregnancy!

    Shouldn’t this have been done before even the Emergency Use Authorization granted & Millions injected?

    “The main goal of this study is to evaluate the outcomes of pregnancy in females exposed to the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine (mRNA-1273) during pregnancy.”

    https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/results/NCT04958304

    Study completeion date – – JANUARY 2024 !!

    #83140
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    @ Germ
    Thanks fot thr Kachhela link/info,,,
    Alas for naught; can’t find a way to pay in dollars…

    #83141
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    That bit at the beginning of your summaries from Dr. Kory has me wondering if what we’re seeing is indeed the opening salvo of vaccine-induced ADE. Of course, knowing this would mean knowing how many the patients not responding to the MATH protocol were vaccinated.

    #83144
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Mister, I was wondering the same thing … ADE?? I’m also curious about why Delta (aka Indian) variant is purportedly behaving differently in the US than it did in India? Many areas there used prophylactic ivermectin and cases fell off a cliff. In addition to that example, weren’t early delta-hit countries seeing increased cases but decreased death rates? So wth??

    #83145
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    correction: … decreased deaths proportionate to number of cases (delta)

    #83148
    absolute galore
    Participant

    It sounds like Kory is saying that Ivermectin is not effective any longer, at least against more advanced cases of the Delta variant? Or could it now be a “sub-variant?”

    This has been my concern, the rapidly changing virus evading the overly specialized vaccines, but now also natural immunity and antiviral drugs.

    He does seem to suggest, or at least hope, that early intervention with the FLCC protocol still offers some protection.

    And then there is another story just below about only 5%of people even being susceptible. I guess at this point you takes your prophylactic and hope for the best.

    Is there more info on Kory’s twitter screenshot somewhere?

    #83149
    absolute galore
    Participant

    Meant to ad, for the past few weeks here, the prevailing info nuggets have suggested that Delta is less virulent, as one might expect/hope based on previous virus behaviors. But now we are seeming to hear otherwise–more serious cases, more kids, and meds being less effective.

    #83150
    Dr. D
    Participant

    In today’s episode of “Everything is a Lie”, Anglos (of course) in Australia (of course) call the major testing center – doing like 60% of the tests – and ask, “Hey, what test are you using for Delta?” A: “We don’t have any test for Delta. It’s just the PCR test.”

    “You’re the major testing company on the continent, if you don’t have a test, where is the Australian government getting their Delta numbers?” A: “You’ll have to ask them, we don’t have that test.”

    DingDingDingDing! As the Doctor says, there MAY be a test. Somewhere. But nobody’s using it, they’re essentially making Delta up out of “Whole Narrative”, the air released from their butts, and why? In order to march the people somewhere they’ve already pre-decided. …Has to be, because when there’s no testing, there’s no evidence, so they aren’t being “evidence based” or responding to facts on the ground.

    …I mean, if you didn’t already know all that.

    Running down precious metals prices in the middle of a stiff and provable metals shortage. Of course. There are no real markets on earth. Anyway, as Armstrong would say, you’re not going to get a breakout if the line is just wandering around. It’s the plunge that creates the energy for the breakout, wrong-footing everyone. So time and option is here.

    Oh and common coin shortage too – same signal. Coins suddenly appeared as hoarded on the ledger of Banks and the Fed, totally coincidentally, not that they think the paper will poof and the coins stay strong. No no no. That’s crazy talk.

    Also you just doubled your money in ETH off the low price, so if you want to take something, it’s not a bad time. If the markets rock, they won’t escape; people will sell Crypto to cover their massive Dow margin calls, highest in a century. It will go up later as the (digital) dollar is in trouble, but beware.

    Speaking of, the IMF printed $650 Billion – that is, half a TRILLION – in SDRs this week, exactly as they said they would in 2011, or 1988 actually. 2011 they said “Hey peoples: this whole ship is going down, the infinite compounding is about to roll over on us unless we print $100 Trillion right now for…uh…Green Stuff, infrastructure…or something. You with us?”

    The people said, and I quote: “Y G T B F K M” and “S— a D—” and they didn’t start, sending it to their proxy central banks to print for themselves and their rich buddies instead. But that’s not enough in a wall of exponential compounding interest, and the Fed is tapped with $1T each day and another $1T each night, so as predicted and printed (by them) here’s your down payment on printing that $100 Trillion inflation tax. On the poor. As Tyson says, “We can’t raise prices fast enough”. For the benefit of Powell, Bezos, Gates, and Zuck, the rich. Done yet? Want to get off the crazy train? See why we need cryptos, bad as they may be?

    For old times:
    BirdtheWord
    https://bitcoin.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/economist-global-currency-1-783×1024.jpg

    Aaaaand that “null” symbol is what? Yes, digital, people, cryptos, 30 years of planning ago. …But was meant to be their IMF digital bank social-credit coin, not “our” coin, released/escaped into the wild. Best you’re going to do right now.

    Commenting on “Kids” who shows that fiat is the way to turbo-charge evil and destruction. And also collapse and resulting war that wastes even MORE, by the way. Gold may be pointless but it is the anchor chain between monetary psychology and reality. And as I say every day, they’ve rejected #Reality, #Logos, and lost their d—n minds. Although just a stupid rock, if it reconnedt man to g-d- #Reality, I’m in favor of it.

    Taibbi covers Cuomo, pointing out in just a few sentences tens of appalling felonies, including selling rape licenses to Weinstein with the Manhattan DA, which everybody knew. So this is all a scam for removal to not look deeper, since, as “New York,” everybody who’s anybody is involved. Again, this AG basically says Andy is a failed, outdated pickup artist. There’s almost nothing there, while he oversaw and permitted the largest trafficking of young girls through Jeff-n-pals – and Nexium, also his backyard – that anyone is aware of. But, wrong words, WORDS, people! While killing 20,000 grandmas. Words are violence. Violence is not violence.

    Did you see the midwestern flash floods? Awesome how everyone is lazily using 110 volt devices while neck deep in water, totally uninterested in escape through the door 2 feet away from them. Normalcy bias kills, people. And that’s WITH neck deep water, high voltage, and drowning, not some ephemeral fact in your brain pan. How much harder to escape normalcy bias and save your own life when it’s merely thoughts?

    “22 Jul 21, Moderna just began a study of the Vaxx and Pregnancy!”

    That can’t be right, they already assured us it was safe for pregnancy, I remember Collum commenting on it.

    #Delta? In India? Or here? How would they know? No one’s seen a test, and they’ve already said the PCR test creating all our previous numbers is false too. False data + false data = False data. (Thankfully additive, not compounded)

    #83151
    absolute galore
    Participant

    As of July 29, the FLCC website shows Ivermectin kicking butt on Delta. What happened in the last 10 days? And where is the data and info, or is this just frontline docs reporting observations at this point? And as someone said, any parsing of med failures as related to patient’s vaccine status?

    https://covid19criticalcare.com/

    #83152
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    ADE: It’s here, it’s now, it’s wow.

    At this point, you would be hard-pressed to change my mind on that. And it’s pretty rare for me to undergo such a complete 180-degree turn in my evaluation of something over the course of two or three days.

    #83153
    those darned kids
    Participant

    doctor d!!! thanks and thanks. no one, i repeat no one, has ever listened to my idea about gold linking money to the earth, and thus, limiting our destructive capabilities relative to fiat. all they ever do is hear the word “gold”, and off they go into whatever it is they already believed.

    one thing about gold: because people believe it’s actually worth something and has such a long history as a form of money, it makes a good starting place to recouple our desires (i.e. greed) with the carrying capacities of this dear planet. i do, however, believe there must be a better way to anchor our money back to the earth.

    thanks again!

    #83154
    #83155
    Boogaloo
    Participant

    @Roboto

    As I recall MATH+ predated Ivermectin. The protocol with Ivermectin is I-MASK+ isn’t it?

    #83156
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    @TDK: That’s really something to think about. The big argument against the gold standard is that it promotes deflation too much. But if fiat only gives us the ability to inflate our appetite for expansion and consumption, then woe to health of the planet!

    #83157
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    … the disease was a mere excuse to introduce a slow-working lethal pseudo-vaccine to reduce the global population efficiently and drastically — so that nefarious “elites” could enjoy life (and its immortal transhuman successor state) on a planet uncluttered by billions of human riffraff. That story has seemed pretty preposterous to me.

    Kunstler, Greer and Ilargi have all made similar comments to this and I want to believe that it is all greed and incompetence but it continues to bother me as although it seems preposterous or rather is preposterous, there are all these little hints that it might just be true.

    Take the response by all western governments (with the exception of Sweden) which was to throw out the existing playbook for how to handle a pandemic (keep life as normal as possible, keep public fear low etc.) and to do the exact opposite, lockdowns, face masks and ramping the fear factor up to 11.

    Then there’s the issue of the vaccines being the only way out of this mess, burying the negative side effects and deaths even though orders of magnitude higher than any other vaccine ever. There’s the systematic suppression of all alternative treatments indicating that it’s not about health and the media have all been bought to promulgate the illusion that it is.

    There’s the whole divide and conquer thing whereby vaxxed and unvaxxed are set against each other (to what end, we can ask) and then there’s the wholesale destruction of small businesses resulting in the massive transfer of wealth to the ultra rich.

    I could go on, but you get the point. I’ll just throw in a curve ball. In 2013 the conservative Cardinal Ratzinger aka Pope Benedict XVI, in an unprecedented move in modern times, stepped down from the Holy See and was replaced by the more modern minded Pope Francis who has said many things to upset traditional Catholics and has even been promoting these experimental “vaccines.” How can he possibly justify this, if he doesn’t know </em that they’re safe, also in the long term, and that they don’t have an effect on fertility and the unborn child? So was Benedict replaced because he wouldn’t do the bidding of whoever is pulling the strings? Preposterous, that’s a step too far, obviously.

    As Nosferatu Blair recently said, they have their people in place everywhere. Can we still afford to think that this really can all be explained by greed and incompetence? I don’t know but I’d welcome a good discussion about this.

    #83158
    those darned kids
    Participant

    indeed, mr. r.

    you’ll see our present climate mayhem really shifted gears in the early 70s. hmmm…

    also, check the hockey stick thing (are we still allowed to mention that?). you’ll see the bend in the blade starts almost to the day nixon dropped the puck.

    #83159
    a kullervo
    Participant

    The Shadow used to have natural outlets (e.g., hunting, the occasional brawls) to exert its tendencies and reset the personality’s stability; nowadays, there’s simply too much Shadow restraining and the Shadow reveals itself mainly through insanity.

    #83160
    chooch
    Participant

    Those of us who have chosen not to “vaccinate” pose an existential “threat” to the fear-based world-views of those who have credulously accepted the endless – “death is just around the corner if one fails to comply” – narratives peddled constantly by MSM.  The “mask” and one’s “vaccination” status offer a way to identify “similar others” and a way to identify and vilify “those who are different.”  We who question are now “those who are different.”

    “Finding effective ways to challenge the popular fear based “acceptance” of the MSM lies and propaganda around covid is critical if we hope to alter the frightening global trajectory that those narratives ominously portend for all of us, regardless of one’s personal “disbelief” in the covid propaganda.”

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/why-do-so-many-believe-official-covid-narratives/5752602

    #83161
    absolute galore
    Participant

    Boogaloo: As I recall MATH+ predated Ivermectin. The protocol with Ivermectin is I-MASK+ isn’t it?

    Incorrect. I-Mask+ is the prophylactic and outpatient regimen. Mask+ is the ICU regimen. Both use Ivermectin as a core medicine.

    It sounds like, at least for those making it to the ICU with what is currently still being labeled the Delta variant, the standard protocol, including Ivm, is no longer producing positive outcomes. It would be speculation as to why at this point, although it appears the progression of the Delta variant, from first exposure to serious illness, is many times more rapid than the original, which often took a week or more to get to that stage. So something is happening in terms of the velocity of the virus manifesting. The FLCC approach, at both the outpatient and ICU stages, is to treat as rapidly as possible. It may simply be that due to the extra speed of the current virus, by the time people make it to ICU, things are often too far along for the medications to have much effect. But this is wild speculation.

    It is also unclear who the lastest casualties are–I hear conflicting reports, with some saying same comorbidities, others reporting worrying trends of healthier younger victims.

    Hard to parse this, not sure exactly what the phrase “profound responses from higher doses in prophylaxis and early treatment” means, or what the timeframe is–is this a reference to the increased prophylactic dosage implemented a while back, or yet another, as yet not posted, increase?–,but it sounds like doses will be increasing once again for one or both protocols, a worrying trend for sure. From Dr. Kory’s twitter feed 12 hours ago:

    Based on our recent clinical experience along with profound responses from higher doses in prophylaxis and early treatment, we will change our treatment approaches soon. these variants transmit faster and cause severe disease faster, thus we must adapt accordingly

    #83162
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Upon further reflection I’ve decided it’s easier to go with Dr D’s philosophy, “In today’s episode of “Everything is a Lie”,

    Because ….

    Naturally acquired immunity is shorter duration than, what? Delta is hospitalizing more people? Children and young people are now hospitalized frequently due to delta? Ivermectin quit working on delta? We’re actually gene sequencing hundreds of thousands of samples to determine delta is now main variant? And the best one: mask on/mask off. Mask on/mask off.

    Tomorrow it will be a different set of made up stuff. Probably because the chicken was on both sides of the road simultaneously, as chickens most often are.

    #83163
    democritus
    Participant

    So here is what I think is odd. If ADE is happening in the USA, why is it not happening in the UK where there is a higher vaccination rate and the vaccines were approved earlier?

    If ADE is happening in the USA, why are deaths falling? A sign of ADE would be if the vaccinated were worse off than unvaccinated. I haven’t seen any sign of that.

    #83164
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    @democritus: Certainly something to consider about the UK if that is indeed the case. Death-rate has roughly doubled in the US over the past five weeks, but not by a startling sheer amount. A seven-day-average of about 250 went up to 500.

    #83165
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Suspect IVM not working because there IS no Delta variant. Not just ’cause no one is testing for it. There probably IS a Delta variant, and as we’ve seen in the 1-2 months to now, is hardly more contagious, and 1/1,000th less dangerous. But what?

    It’s ADE. And why? YES, they have a covid of some sort — and as we just found out, they neither know nor care what kind. That Covid then does exactly what 10 years of mRNA research promised: a violent perhaps fatal overreaction to the disease, primed by the vaccine. But they can’t SAY it’s a total failure on Covid-19a. That would be too obvious and not kill people. So they need a reason why THEIR vaccine doesn’t work, a week later, on the disease it was created for. …Enter “Delta”.

    Let’s review: mRNA research and all known science says that the problem — or “Final Solution” if you prefer — is that in a normal reaction, immune system says, “Hey boys, think I got something here, take a look.” Next immune cell says, “Jimmy, I think you’re right, it IS something. Let me go rally the troops and get the factory on the phone.” On and on until you’re at full immune response.

    Note it was this immune OVERREACTION that was a main cause of death 2020 as it filled the lungs. I believe the steroids were a thing that slowed the reaction to manageable levels until the body could overcome.

    mRNA response? EVERY CELL IN THE BODY REACTS INSTANTLY. On purpose. This is the point. And thereby insuring 100% immune overreaction and death. As 10+ years of research proved.

    This is why Ivermectin wouldn’t work in this condition. Not that it isn’t, but because Delta/Covid IS NOT THE PROBLEM TO BEGIN WITH. Your overreaction is. So yes, if it can be hyper-early, it might erase the wild variant before overreaction can bloom, but that window is shorter, and the time-before-death from ADE is also shorter. And time is your enemy in medicine, why they often drag things out.

    So other problem: Ivermectin IS working, but if I’m right you’ll see the efficacy rates drop off. It’s all ADE.

    I guess no one believes in science? This is Pfizer and Merck’s own science on mRNAs. This is a repeatable test, proven 100% of the time. Then force-injected on the world.

    …Oh and this is why they’re in a hurry and about to lose.

    #83166
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    democritus raises good questions. Although in looking closely at UK 7-day moving averages, cases have begun to trend upward and daily deaths have increased from about 25 to almost 90 in the past month or so. Time will tell, I guess. That’s why it’s easier to go with Dr D’s philosophy, otherwise you get whiplash trying to keep up. 😉

    #83168
    zerosum
    Participant

    THE 3 MONKEYS
    ZEROSUME – CON21 TO CON26
    WRONG GOALS
    LIFE HAS ALWAYS ADAPTED AND WILL ADAPT AND CONTINUES

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_longest-living_organisms

    #83169
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    @democritus

    What I understand is that in the UK the majority of people are vaccinated with Astra Zeneca and that it results in a much higher quantity of spike proteins and hence increased production of antibodies. This, it is believed, will mean that protection will last longer.

    #83172

    Much too soon to draw ADE conclusions.Window is 6-24 (36?) months.

    #83174
    Mr. House
    Participant

    IMDOC reports over at NC that old treatment regimes are not working. He won’t be posting for awhile due to being very busy. I suggest everyone go over and read it. beautiful post.

    #83176
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    That which does not kill us
    becomes The New Normal

    #83177
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Try to keep it short, but this is the world’s biggest mess. Here you go:
    https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths

    Add Israel. Low rates but rising as it begins as one would predict.

    And more important, https://ourworldindata.org/covid-cases
    Add Israel, Iceland, India etc.

    Yes, why ARE the numbers different? India, originator of the Delta, flat cases. U.S., Israel, France, mega-cases. And especially Iceland.

    What do these places have in common and not in common with India?

    How are Germany and France like night and day? Sweden wide open and fine? Italy in-between? Any way you slice it, the data doesn’t make any sense if you think this is only transmission of the world’s most contagious disease. And that disease is at all related to deaths.

    Well, first of all, THE PCR TEST DOESN’T WORK. At all. Every number here is a lie. And that includes death numbers since we already know heart patients who die WITH Covid die OF Covid.

    Okay, try some more. NYT, and by state: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html

    Lowest deaths and cases: S. Dakota, etc. Highest, NJ, etc. As always. Highest vax rates?

    https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19/vaccine-tracker New Jersey, Virginia, Florida.

    All over the map. Florida with high vax has high cases. VA with highest vax has cases and no deaths, along with NJ, NY. Idaho: lowest vaccinations, same case/death rates as VA, NJ, NY.

    Huh. No help here except the obvious: Vaccine doesn’t work. High vax rate, low vax rate, deaths vs cases. No correlation.

    Different question: overall, highest death rates so far?
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

    Dead the most: NJ, NY, MA, RI, MI, AZ, LA, AL, CT.
    Or the least: HI, VT, AK, ME, OR, UT, NH, NE.

    Big states, small states, lockdown states, no lockdown states, semi-rural, semi-populous. What does this tell you? LOCKDOWNS DON’T WORK. Therefore masks don’t work.

    But again, we can only know this because DATA DOESN’T WORK. Not if you have admitted wrong tests and admitted wrong death reporting.

    We’re saying vax rate leads to case rates. We see that in UK, Israel, U.S., Iceland, Seychelles. But not everywhere. We’re saying case rates MAY lead to death rates, with a strong lag, and depending on exposure to new seasonal Coronas. That might be happening but if so, is only beginning, which is expected. And very scattershot as we have many, many states and regions with ‘high’ cases and no deaths.

    What was the question again? Why are there no death rates? Because the vax is new, and it’s not yet winter in the places we’re measuring.

    I’d ask the same: If the vax DOES work, why does it cause cases in some nations, and why does a subset of vaxxed locations have rising deaths while some unvaccinated locations do not?

    Bonus question: why are the cases tightly locked to political borders and therefore their healthcare structure and not actual geography and human interaction? Doesn’t that seem weird?

    #83178
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    I do not believe that the design of the pandemic + vaccine was population reduction.

    1) There does not appear to have been enough prior testing of either the disease or the vaccine in human populations to adequately ascertain what the death count would be from the virus or the vaccine.

    2) I have seen no “smoking gun” type evidence that this is designed to greatly reduce population — all the evidence suggesting population reduction as the aim is circumstantial.

    However, I suspect that the sociopaths who triggered/allowed/hoped/planned for a pandemic have no qualms over the pandemic and vaccination campaign causing death. They simply don’t value human life outside of their own narrow circle.

    There is substantial evidence that the goal of the pandemic was
    1) To instill fear in the population, which would
    2) lead to the population becoming amenable to steerage and authoritarian controls and
    3) submitting en masse to a vaccination campaign with a substance not fully disclosed, that would
    4) lead to the population expecting and regularly submitting to injections, which opens up a Pandora’s box of possibilities for future social control (and/or population reduction.)

    The Covid virus is not all that deadly — that is likely by design. The goal was induction of fear that would lead to injection.
    The vaccine was expected to have negative effects (as per SPARS document) and so the narrative was spun to minimize facts of adverse vaccine reactions from the get go. However, I suspect that the side effects of the vaccine are much worse than the architects of the pandemic + vaccination campaign had imagined. I find the ultimate goal to have been social control. A vaccine that is too deadly and damaging to the body undermines the goal of social control. Once problems with the vaccine become so large that people see them showing up anecdotally in their own social circles it becomes increasingly difficult to control the narrative.

    This is why there is such pressure for all to be vaccinated, why doctors are being threatened with loss of their license for speaking out, why there is a rush for FDA approval, why the Biden administration is talking of censoring private text messages, etc. The goal was social control, the medium was to be the vaccine. The vaccine is proving to be nearly useless in treating the disease, and so deadly and disabling in the first 6 months that the mainstream narrative is fraying at the seams.

    Parasitical idiots. (Of course, I’m glad that they are idiots.)

    #83179
    Oroboros
    Participant
    #83180
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    #83181
    TAE Summary
    Participant

    * So Many Questions
    – In what cases does Ivermectin still work?
    – How do they test for Delta?
    – Why did Delta behave differently in India?
    – How do we know when it’s ADE?
    – If ADE is happening in the US, why not in the UK?
    – Are the vaccines safe for pregnant women?
    – Do some spike proteins result in superior antibodies?
    – How can one pay for IVM with dollars?
    – Why are Covid rates tied to political borders?

    * Kahn’s Razor: Never ascribe to a depopulation plan that which can be adequately explained by a lust for power, money and total social control

    * Covid data makes no sense
    – Covid, doesn’t kill you, your reaction to Covid kills you

    * Aphorisms
    – That which does not kill us makes us normal
    – Men used to blow off steam; No more pressure valve leads to insanity
    – At all costs western powers attempt to prevent the emergence of a more equitable post-colonial world
    – Everything they say is now a lie produced by a random truth generator
    – Never tell time your secrets because time will tell

    * Fatal Flaws
    – Cuomo put hands on womens’ waists
    – Biden sniffed hair
    – W didn’t read books
    – Clinton fooled around
    – Nixon dropped the puck
    – Capone was a tax cheat
    – Jack the Ripper stole hub caps
    – Pol Pot ran with scissors

    * Gold is Out, Crypto is In
    – The old properties of money: durable, portable, divisible, uniform, limited, acceptable
    – The new properties of money: digital, global, trackable, unlimited, obligatory

    #83182

    URL?

    IMDOC reports over at NC that old treatment regimes are not working. He won’t be posting for awhile due to being very busy. I suggest everyone go over and read it. beautiful post.

    #83183
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    A note to and about our favorite professional pundits and opinion leaders.

    To not believe in explicit conspiracy is to not believe in the human activity of planning as a means of getting what you want. To actually dismis a possibility merely because it offends one’s sensitivities is a good way to find things out the hard way and too late to do much about it.

    Sifting through the hypotheses is not easy, and made more difficult still by our own filters (which can be faulty) and the literary style of the source material.

    Just stick to the actual FACTS (even skimpy or weird ones) and the scientific method. While you’re at it, also remember the wisdom of Arthur Conan Doyle. When you have eliminated the impossible then what remains (regardless of how improbable) is the best answer you’re going to come up with. Act accordingly if you’ve got the nerve, stomach and need to.

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