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Pablo Picasso The three dancers 1925

 

SARS-CoV-2 Vaccines, Breakthrough Infections and Lasting Natural Immunity (CH)
Estimating Vaccine-Induced Mortality, Part II (Crawford)
Boost The Insanity (Berenson)
90% Of Covid Patients Treated With New Israeli Drug Discharged In 5 Days (JP)
You Must Have ENJOYED Covid! (Denninger)
This Is Why You Can’t Get There From Here (Denninger)
French Cafés Sit Empty As Police Raid Outdoor Diners For Vaccine Pass (RT)
USA to Mandate COVID-19 Vaccinations in the Military (GR)
Fauci ‘Hopes’ Masks Won’t Have ‘Lasting Negative Impact’ On Young Kids (Fox)
Danger, Cover Blowing (Kunstler)
Gov. Cuomo Making Last-ditch Attempt To Avoid Impeachment (NYP)

 

 

Kory’s getting worried.

 

 

“He explains with great clarity why there has been a summer resurgence of covid in the US (ADE) and what treatments we should be giving – Vit D, Zinc, Ivermectin.”

 

 

Differences in immunity. A few articles that don’t quite fit the Debt Rattle format. Go read them.

SARS-CoV-2 Vaccines, Breakthrough Infections and Lasting Natural Immunity (CH)

The SARS-CoV-2 genome encodes for 5 proteins, which are made of chains of amino acids. For example, the virus uses the 1,273 amino acid long Spike (S) protein to infect human cells. When a COVID-19 variant is discussed, the implied variation is in S amino acid sequence. In fact, S is the only protein mentioned on the CDC’s variant webpage. You can break full length proteins into smaller fragments, called peptides, and more precisely study immunity. This allows you to tease apart vaccine and natural infection antibody responses.


Variants have specific amino acid changes. For example, the Delta variant contains about 13 amino acid changes in S, compared to the Alpha variant. These changes allow the virus to sometimes escape from antibody binding. Antibodies bind to small 5-15 amino segments called epitopes. That means several distinct antibodies can target a full length protein. The vaccines induce an immune response against S receptor binding domain (RBD), which provides many epitope targets for antibodies. However this is not the only region of of full length S protein that induces an immune response. Nor is S the only SARS-CoV-2 protein targeted by your immune system in natural immunity.

Cure-Hub’s data indicates strong antibody production against the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein after vaccination and natural infection. However, natural infection tends to produce antibodies against a greater number of targets. In fact, the 3 individuals with the most antibody targets post-immune event had a natural infection (Figure 1)

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Nice serious study, spreadsheets and all. You could win $25K through @VaccineTruth2!

Conclusion: “adjusted (excess) deaths per million vaccine doses delivered is 411 ..” (673 million doses have been administered, so 276,603 deaths)

“Win $25K if you are the first person to find an error in this paper that changes the result by a factor of 2 or more. It shows 411 vaccine deaths per million doses. This is consistent with 10 other methods.”

Estimating Vaccine-Induced Mortality, Part II (Crawford)

In Part I, I examined the first 30 days of vaccination programs throughout Europe, showing an estimated 1018 deaths per million doses (not even people—doses) of COVID-19 vaccines administered, judging by excess deaths compared to a starting baseline based on case fatality rates (CFRs). After a quick, but seemingly reasonable adjustment, I estimated 200 to 500 deaths per million doses delivered—based solely on deaths seemingly categorized as COVID-19 deaths. This would suggest, based on 4 billion doses already administered throughout the world, that 800,000 to 2,000,000 of the COVID-19 deaths recorded are actually vaccine-induced deaths. This does not even include vaccine-induced deaths that have not been recorded as COVID cases, though I suspect that latter number is smaller since the only good way to hide the vaccine mortality signal is to smuggle deaths through the already-established COVID death toll.


As a quick observation, Norway reported 23 deaths at a time when 40,000 Norwegians had been vaccinated. Forgetting about the possibility of underreporting (including lagged reporting at that moment), this total represents 575 deaths per million doses administered. When Norwegian health officials finished assessing the first thirteen of these deaths, all of them were determined to be linked to the vaccines. Meanwhile, erstwhile health authorities in the U.S. continue to behave as if examination of the bodies is completely unnecessary [for their purposes].

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“THE VACCINES MAKE YOUR CELLS PRODUCE THE SPIKE PROTEIN. YOUR BODY THEN MAKES ANTIBODIES TO THOSE PROTEINS.”

Boost The Insanity (Berenson)

The real-world data – from Israel, the United States, and everywhere else – are clear. Protection from infection fades within months even against the original coronavirus. It shrinks essentially to zero against the Delta variant (we can argue about time vs. variant effects, but the answer doesn’t matter in this context, either way the vaccines have stopped working). For now, vaccine advocates are clinging to the hope that even if the vaccines do not protect against infection, they still provide some protection against more serious illness and death. I think the jury is still out on that question, but again it is largely irrelevant for this conversation – the Covid wards are filling in Israel, and most people in them are older and vaccinated. If the vaccines do offer any help after a few months against serious illness, it is far less than the 95-99 percent protection that advocates have claimed.

Thus the move for a third shot. And possibly more shots to come. But please – please! – understand how radical a move this is. At this point, these shots are basically being pushed forward on the basis of VERY early data from VERY small trials – a few dozen volunteers, at most – showing that people had significantly more antibodies a month after receiving a third dose. I don’t doubt these slides are accurate. THE VACCINES MAKE YOUR CELLS PRODUCE THE SPIKE PROTEIN. YOUR BODY THEN MAKES ANTIBODIES TO THOSE PROTEINS. That’s what they do, and they’re very good at it. More vaccine makes your body do it more. But that’s only the beginning of what we should know before encouraging a third dose. Here’s a PARTIAL list of questions we haven’t answered:

Does a third dose of the vaccine ACTUALLY REDUCE INFECTIONS IN THOSE PEOPLE WHO RECEIVE IT? Does it reduce deaths (remember, even the original, huge Covid trials didn’t answer that question)? Will the third dose produce a transient spike in infections, as the first dose appears to? Will the antibodies last longer this time because we have more of them after the second dose, or will they decline more quickly? Does the vaccine confer ANY long-term protection through T-cell immunity? Will people who have received a third dose be vulnerable to future variants? Will they be more or less vulnerable than people who have been infected and recovered and are are naturally immune? Will the side effects – which are generally much worse after the second dose than the first – be still worse after the third?


Will some people die from those side effects? What is the overall safety profile of the third or more doses in a large population? Does it differ by age? I could go on, but I hope this is enough to show you how little we know. Offering a third dose essentially means offering an entirely new vaccine regimen. If the FDA or other regulators had any guts they would insist on a new, full-size clinical trial (a BETTER trial, one powered to detect reductions in death) before allowing it. Instead governments are rushing ahead based on what are basically early Phase 2 clinical trials – tiny and providing evidence of efficacy based on lab benchmarks rather than clinical data.

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CD24. Join the ranks of things that DO work.

90% Of Covid Patients Treated With New Israeli Drug Discharged In 5 Days (JP)

Some 93% of 90 coronavirus serious patients treated in several Greek hospitals with a new drug developed by a team at Tel Aviv’s Sourasky Medical Center as part of the Phase II trial of the treatment were discharged in five days or fewer. The Phase II trial confirmed the results of Phase I, which was conducted in Israel last winter and saw 29 out of 30 patients in moderate to serious condition recover within days. “The main goal of this study was to verify that the drug is safe,” Prof. Nadir Arber said. “To this day we have not registered any significant side effect in any patient from both groups.” The trial was conducted in Athens because Israel did not have enough relevant patients. The principal investigator was Greece’s coronavirus commissioner, Prof. Sotiris Tsiodras.

Arber and his team, including Dr. Shiran Shapira, developed the drug based on a molecule that the professor has been studying for 25 years called CD24, which is naturally present in the body. “It is important to remember that 19 out of 20 COVID-19 patients do not need any therapy,” Arber said. “After a window of five to 12 days, some 5% of the patients start to deteriorate.” The main cause of the clinical deterioration is an over activation of the immune system, also known as a cytokine storm. In case of COVID-19 patients, the system starts attacking healthy cells in the lungs. “This is exactly the problem that our drug targets,” he said. CD24 is a small protein that is anchored to the membrane of the cells and it serves many functions including regulating the mechanism responsible for the cytokine storm.


Arber stressed that their treatment, EXO-CD24, does not affect the immune system as a whole, but only targets this specific mechanism, helping find again its correct balance. “This is precision medicine,” he said. “We are very happy that we have found a tool to tackle the physiology of the disease.” “Steroids for example shut down the entire immune system,” he further explained. “We are balancing the part responsible for the cytokine storms using the endogenous mechanism of the body, meaning tools offered by the body itself.” Arber noted that another breakthrough element of this treatment is its delivery. “We are employing exosomes, very small vesicles derived from the membrane of the cells which are responsible for the exchange of information between them,” he said. “By managing to deliver them exactly where they are needed, we avoid many side effects,” he added.

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“How many lies do you let the CDC run before you call BS on the entire charade? How many people does the medical and political complex get to slaughter for profit?”

You Must Have ENJOYED Covid! (Denninger)

Well, the CDC and a number of other articles claim that natural antibodies are “poor” in quantity compared to that of the vaccines. Is that true? Not really. The distribution and type of antibodies are different; that much is certain. The vaccines produce spike protein antibodies only, where natural infection produces mostly “N” protein antibodies. In addition there is a very significant difference between CD4 and CD8 response between natural infection and the jabs. But wait: Is the CDC lying through obfuscation? That MMWR every major media outlet appears to be parroting was poorly-researched, had an extremely small sample and was wildly slanted, as damn near everything that comes out of that evil organization has been for the last 18 months. How about Lombardi, which as we all know got monkey-hammered in the early part of 2020.

“During the follow-up (mean [SD], 280 [41] days) 5 reinfections (0.31%; 95% CI, 0.03%-0.58%) were confirmed in the cohort of 1579 positive patients. Most of these patients were evaluated, treated, and followed in hospitals or dedicated COVID-19 ambulatories.6 Only 1 was hospitalized…..” Ah, they are lying. This showed an 0.3% chance of reinfection and do note that Lombardi was a situation where most of the people who got hammered were older and thus presumably at least partially immune-compromised. This does not stand alone. Here’s another paper on it showing a zero reinfection rate among over 1,000 persons who had confirmed Covid-19. Zero, of course, cannot be improved upon. It wouldn’t be the first time; if you recall the CDC previously published an MMWR claiming masks work which was based on a study that was later rejected in peer-review.

Yet to this day they continue to argue for masking in schools and elsewhere. Let’s not forget their claim that “98% of the people in the hospital with Covid are unvaccinated”; a false statement that was trivially disproved, or that “children with Covid are filling hospitals” which was also trivially disproved. Yes, kids are in the hospital this summer — in the case if Eastern Tennessee the largest group of them are in there with RSV, a viral infection that usually only comes around in the winter. Or the claim that vaccination is “97% effective” in preventing symptomatic disease; that is, if you got Covid despite being vaccinated you wouldn’t know you had because you’d have no symptoms. “The latest analysis from the MoH proves that two weeks after the second vaccine dose protection is even stronger – vaccine effectiveness was at least 97% in preventing symptomatic disease.”

That turns out to be a lie too; 11 of 14 vaccinated people got Covid at a party and they certainly knew they had it, so they were symptomatic. How many lies do you let the CDC run before you call BS on the entire charade? How many people does the medical and political complex get to slaughter for profit? They’re still sticking Redesivir in anyone who goes to the hospital for Covid at $3,000 a crack despite there being zero evidence that it actually improves outcomes at all. And, like all drugs, it has side effects — some pretty nasty ones, in fact.

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“..IPV was non-sterilizing; that is, “leaky.” Guess what? All the Covid vaccines are too. That’s bad. It is, in fact, what promotes mutation.”

This Is Why You Can’t Get There From Here (Denninger)

I’m stunned that CNN published this, to be honest. “Does it make sense that someone would want to avoid putting unknown chemicals in their body? Is it reasonable not to fully trust the pharmaceutical industry? It doesn’t take a lot of Googling to find lawsuits and settlements of billions of dollars involving harms, false claims and withheld information by drug companies. Isn’t it true that we have only short-term data on the effects and side effects of the vaccines, if only because the trials began less than two years ago?”: Why yes, yes it does. Vioxx, for one. And not just once either. There was a wee problem with the original IPV (Injected, Salk polio vaccine) too. It was contaminated with a cancer-causing agent. How many did it harm at the same time it helped? We don’t really know, but we do know it caused cancers – including in kids.

Then there’s the fact that IPV was rapidly followed by OPV, oral polio, which until the 1990s was still used in America. Why? Because IPV was non-sterilizing; that is, “leaky.” Guess what? All the Covid vaccines are too. That’s bad. It is, in fact, what promotes mutation. We’ve known that for 70 years which is why we used both. Every single so-called expert in the field knows this and that what they attempted to do this time was very likely to fail, as I pointed out before we began. Now it has failed exactly as I expected. The question becomes this: Why did those so-called “experts” go down a path that was known decades ago to be nearly-certain to not work? “And then, encourage them to talk. That’s where curiosity comes in. Ask questions, not to trap them in logical inconsistencies, but because you are truly curious about their answers. How do they compare the relative risks of vaccines and Covid? What data are they looking at? What makes them doubt the safety of the vaccine? What have they seen and heard?”


That’s the punch line, isn’t it? For those who are not morbid the data is clear: Covid is not very dangerous. Sure, it can get you. I can get run over by a car getting my mail too, but we must have perspective. I operate a motor vehicle and accept a roughly 1 in 8,000 risk of dying every year that I do. There’s nothing I can do about it, other than not drive or ride in a car.

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How is that not the scariest thing you ever saw?

French Cafés Sit Empty As Police Raid Outdoor Diners For Vaccine Pass (RT)

Police in France have begun enforcing the vaccination pass mandate to enter cafés and restaurants, leading to many of their tables being empty during the usually busy lunchtime, as the French lunched on public benches instead. On Monday, President Emmanuel Macron’s government extended the controversial ‘pass sanitaire’ requirement to dining venues, even outdoor ones, disregarding the weekend of mass protests that drew at least 250,000 people onto the streets across France. A video doing the rounds on social media, shot by a Reuters photographer, showed French police checking diners’ papers. Those without the pass face a €135 *($158) fine, which increases to €9,000 ($10,560) for a repeat offense.

Paris

By lunchtime, many sidewalk cafés were sitting completely empty as their regular customers chose instead to sit on public benches outside – according to a multitude of photos and comments posted on social media, anyway. Another video showed outdoor venues with few diners on the Champs Élysées, Paris’ main thoroughfare. There were photos of empty tables right across the city at times when such places would ordinarily be full. The famous Grande Brasserie, near the Bastille square, had a few customers inside, but no one out on its patio. One Twitter user speculated that the outdoor seating areas were empty as the result of some kind of nationwide boycott of the health pass.


The pass, introduced by Macron to compel vaccinations against Covid-19, has been mandatory for entrance to museums, movie theaters, swimming pools, and other venues since July 21. The courts have also ruled that it was constitutional to mandate vaccinations for healthcare workers, some of whom have gone on strike in protest. Facing a rising number of Covid-19 cases attributed to the Delta variant of the virus, the French authorities have pressed hard to vaccinate everyone. Meanwhile, vaccine makers Pfizer and Moderna have drastically increased the price of their vaccines in the European Union.

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Sure, we don’t know how real or severe ADE will be, but how is this wise?

USA to Mandate COVID-19 Vaccinations in the Military (GR)

The Pentagon announced today that members of the U.S. military will be required to received the COVID-19 vaccine starting Sept. 15. President Joe Biden has endorsed the Pentagon’s plan. In a memo sent out to military personnel, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said he “will seek the president’s approval to make the vaccines mandatory no later than mid-September, or immediately upon [licensure by the Food and Drug Administration], which ever comes first.” Austin noted that if cases continue to surge that he “will not hesitate to act sooner or recommend a different course to the President if I feel the need to do so. To defend this Nation , we need a healthy and ready force.”

The FDA is still in the process of giving the vaccine final approval, and Austin is hoping to dovetail this with the start of his mandate. If the approval does not come in time, a waiver from Biden will be necessary to make the shots mandatory. Biden has expressed that he would do this if the situation arises. The plan seeks to include the COVID-19 vaccine with a group of other inoculations already mandatory for those enlisted in the military. The close conditions under which service members spend their time while working together create an environment particularly prone to spreading the virus. If the infection rate were to surge within the military, the United States’ ability to respond to urgent national or international crises may be dramatically impaired.


The Pentagon has shared that over 1 million service members are fully vaccinated and that 237,000 have gotten their first dose. The six branches of the military differ significantly in their vaccination rates. Over 74% of active duty and reserve sailors in the navy have had their first dose of the vaccine. The Air Force trails this number, with just over 65% of its active duty and 60% of its reserve forces receiving their first shot. The Army, which it the U.S.’s largest military branch, is approaching just 50% partial vaccination.

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Kids are the new scapegoats.

Fauci ‘Hopes’ Masks Won’t Have ‘Lasting Negative Impact’ On Young Kids (Fox)

White House Chief Health Adviser Dr. Anthony Fauci said Monday that “hopefully” making young kids wear face masks won’t have any “lasting negative impact” on them. During an interview with conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt, Dr. Fauci said it’s important to keep an “open mind” about masking after the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommended that unvaccinated children ages 2 and older wear masks and that students wear masks in all K-12 schools, regardless of vaccination status, in light of the rapid spread of the COVID-19 delta variant. “It’s not comfortable, obviously, for children to wear masks, particularly the younger children,” he said.

“But you know, what we’re starting to see, Hugh, and I think it’s going to unfold even more as the weeks go by, that this virus not only is so extraordinarily transmissible, but we’re starting to see pediatric hospitals get more and more younger people and kids not only numerically, but what seems to be more severe disease. “Now we’re tracking that, the CDC is tracking that really very carefully, so it’s going to be a balance that we would feel very badly if we all of a sudden said OK, kids, don’t wear masks, then you find out retrospectively that this virus in a very, very strange and unusual way is really hitting kids really hard,” he continued. “But hopefully, this will be a temporary thing, temporary enough that it doesn’t have any lasting negative impact on them.”


Hewitt pushed back, citing an editorial Sunday by The Wall Street Journal, titled, “The Case Against Masks for Children,” which argues that long-term masking can cause physical and developmental issues in children and that there’s little evidence to back up a mandate. “Facial expression are integral to human connection, particularly for younger children who are only learning how to signal fear, confusion and happiness,” Hewitt said. “Covering a child’s face mutes these nonverbal form of communications, can result in robotic and emotionless interaction. So, Dr., what did you base it on? Why?” Dr. Fauci responded by claiming the data cited in the editorial “dates back to the alpha variant, not necessarily all the most recent data on delta.”

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“..Dr. Fauci just got in too deep with China’s PLA-connected bioweapons lab in his mad scientist quest to be remembered as the man who defeated all coronaviruses with a single silver bullet..”

Danger, Cover Blowing (Kunstler)

Really, the emerging questions about all this must be: 1) Have they done it on purpose? And 2) Is all the messaging confusion the result of Dr. Anthony Fauci desperately trying to cover his ass for his role in developing Covid-19, as well as the so-called vaccines marshaled to heroically defeat it? Perhaps both. You could construct a case that it was done on-purpose and, in this age of manufactured narratives, some have proposed the story that the disease was a mere excuse to introduce a slow-working lethal pseudo-vaccine to reduce the global population efficiently and drastically — so that nefarious “elites” could enjoy life (and its immortal transhuman successor state) on a planet uncluttered by billions of human riffraff. That story has seemed pretty preposterous to me.


More likely, the hyper-ambitious and heedless Dr. Fauci just got in too deep with China’s PLA-connected bioweapons lab in his mad scientist quest to be remembered as the man who defeated all coronaviruses with a single silver bullet — enabling a “release” of this virus, with (from China’s point of view) the advantageous weakening of Western economies, and the socio-political destruction of their once-cohesive cultures. If so, well done! At this point, at least half the country now distrusts and disbelieves the incoherent messages emanating from “Joe Biden’s” government about this Covid-19 problem and any attempt to force vaccinations on the “hesitant” public will pull the pin out of the national grenade that has been waiting to go off. The “insurrection” next time will be the real thing, not Nancy Pelosi’s faked-up soap opera.

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Getting the impression that Cuomo’s sexual misconduct is not that crazy, it’s just a way to get rid of him. He did much worse things.

Gov. Cuomo Making Last-ditch Attempt To Avoid Impeachment (NYP)

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo tried to cut a deal with the state Legislature — offering to drop his bid for a fourth-term in exchange for not getting impeached, The Post has learned. But no one seems to be buying what the 63-year-old governor is selling. The three-term Democrat made the dubious offer before Attorney General Letitia James’ damning report on his conduct was released last Tuesday, according to a top party official. “It was something that was floated to me by the folks in the Cuomo camp as a possible option before the attorney general’s report came out,” NYS Democratic Party Chairman Jay Jacobs told The Post, adding, “I never saw it as a viable option.”

Still, it looks like Cuomo and his winnowed-down inner circle haven’t given up on the last-ditch effort to avoid impeachment. A source told The City on Monday that the gov’s team has been busy making calls to try to save his skin in the wake of the official report, which concluded Cuomo sexually harassed at least 11 women in violation of state and federal law. He has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing. Before she resigned Sunday night, top aide and confidante Melissa DeRosa had been asking executive staffers for strategies to quiet the impeachment talks, the source told The City. Jacobs said he told the governor’s staff he didn’t think it was a plausible plan.


“I shot it down pretty quick,” Jacobs said. “Either you can survive the AG’s report and run again or you don’t survive the AG’s report. There’s no compromise.” Charlie King, a longtime Cuomo pal, was apparently among those making inquiries about the deal, a source told The Post. King denied the claim, saying, “No. He’s not running for a fourth term, period.” The governor has ignored deafening calls for his resignation coming from as high as President Biden. Sources said Steve Cohen, a longtime Cuomo adviser and a former federal prosecutor, has told Cuomo it’s time to pack it in, as has Jacobs.

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  • #83267
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    those darned kids:
    It seems you believe certain things about our current “situation”, and most of these things seem to be in line with what our governments have been telling us.

    First question you should probably ask is whether he/she/it still believes that Iraqis were killing babies in that Kuwait hospital…

    Some of these sheeple have been drinking the koolaid for a long, long time.

    #83268
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    veracious, some sheeple like the taste of koolaid and have no intention of giving it up.

    #83269
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    also, veracious, it is quite painful when you give up the koolaid. Once you’re off the substance, ordinary things in everyday life don’t look quite the same. Makes you feel like you’re a half a bubble off all the time. I can understand why most people aren’t interested.

    #83270
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    If deflationista is willing to put aside their Trump Derangement Syndrome for twenty-six minutes, they might benefit from watching this particular Chris Martenson video:

    #83271
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @absolute: “Breakthrough” for Dummies”

    “As more people get shots, the percentage of hospitalizations and deaths among fully vaccinated people should rise. This may seem counterintuitive, so it’s important to understand why.

    It seems counterintuitive because that’s not what the lying liars told us would happen after people got vaccinated. Period. I’m not falling for the Winston rewrite narrative.

    The vaccines failed. They have risk of serious side effects and provided what appears to be almost no benefit. If they worked, why would the % of vaccinated in the hospital be even somewhat equal to the % of the population that has been vaccinated? The % of the vaccinated hospitalized should be significantly lower because the vaccines work and the vaccinated people aren’t getting sick enough to hospitalize.

    For gods sake, we need to take a big step back and think about the stupidity of this entire argument, which is one I see in comments all over the internet. Why, why, should vaccinated people be sick in proportionately increasing amounts just because more of the population is vaccinated?? There is a level of idiocy to this argument that … I Just Can’t.

    Btw, @absolute, you’re getting good at this rendering down. Are you writing a Dummies book? 🙂

    #83272
    VietnamVet
    Participant

    Having known WWII, Korean and Vietnam Veterans, I never trusted ones who told tall tales, the quiet ones’ eyes told the truth. IM Doc’s post brought tears to my eyes. A first for the thousands of blog posts that I’ve read. This shows the stress isolation produces. Yes, if it has a happy ending, it would make a Hallmark movie.

    But last week I realized there will be no happy endings. The mRNA vaccines may or may not extend life and reduce the severity of the disease, but this has yet to be proven. They have no effect on the transmission of the virus. To control the pandemic, democracy and a working public health campaign is needed that commits all the resources available to making the nation’s population healthy once again. The restoration of democracy and the rule of law in the USA is needed. More likely, the global oligarchs will blow things apart to grab the last bit of worldly wealth available.

    #83273

    An uplifting video tune from I don’t remember where.
    Just say no.

    #83274
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    @deflationista

    “The commentary on this site reads like a special segment from the My Pillow Guy’s Cyber Symposium. And, just as factual.”

    Far be it from me to state this, but you are here, why? Did the CDC send you?

    #83275
    absolute galore
    Participant

    ctbarnum wrote:Far be it from me to state this, but you [deflationista] are here, why? Did the CDC send you?

    I think it’s obvious that, just like our government and its various branches–CDC, NIH, NSA, CNN, MSNBC, GAFAM, NYT, ETC–he’s concerned about us and wants to keep us from harming ourselves. I feel protected knowing he is watching over us and checking in. The adult in the room, as it were. How he puts up with our antics while maintaining his quick wit and hip humor I can’t begin to fathom! God bless!

    #83276
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Far be it from me to state this, but you are here, why? Did the CDC send you?

    I asked the same question facetiously, but pushback inevitably generates counter-pushback. That’s why I think any future replies to them should be confined to attempts to point them in a more constructive direction, however ultimately futile. Otherwise, mental kill-file city.

    #83277
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    “How he puts up with our antics while maintaining his quick wit and hip humor I can’t begin to fathom! God bless!”

    Agreed!

    @Mister Roboto

    While our brother in site certainly has a decent point now and again, I myself can’t seem to deny a good smack when one goes off the rails that far. Point taken though.

    #83278
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @absolute, I sort of wondered that about deflationista. Why bother reading comments if you think we’re blithering idiots wandering lost in a desert of tinfoil sand grains?

    But I just finished watching the Martinson video @mister posted. I had known about that study but it slipped to the back of my mind … however, now I am going to retract my previous sarcastic comments to deflationista and offer an olive branch. 🙂

    Hang out with us awhile if you are interested in keeping an open mind. If you are not able to do that, perhaps examine why you are reading and commenting here?

    Back when I went to church we ended the service by turning to others around us and saying, “Peace be with you …” And the response would always be, “And also with you …”

    Lovely practice, isn’t it?

    #83279
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    my parents, I loved that video, and I don’t particularly care for rap. I want the best for our young people’s future. I want them to see, understand, and push back. Thank you. Saved on youtwitface (joke, sort of). Will watch again.

    #83280
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    upstateNYer:

    Some sheeple like the taste of koolaid and have no intention of giving it up. ~ It is quite painful when you give up the koolaid. Once you’re off the substance, ordinary things in everyday life don’t look quite the same. Makes you feel like you’re a half a bubble off all the time. I can understand why most people aren’t interested.

    Swillin’ the sweet pablum surely is an addiction, with soul crushing consequences…

    The Three Poisons (buddhism):

    1> Moha (confusion, ignorance)

    2> Raga (desire, sensuality, greed)

    3> Dvesha (hatred)

    Ego reduction at depth is key to the door that leads to spiritual enlightenment.

    The mystical feeling of enlargement, union, and emancipation has no specific intellectual content whatever of its own ~ William James

    #83281
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    upstateNYer: “…perhaps examine why you are reading and commenting here?”

    The putdowns and non-constructive criticism could be attempts to make them feel better about themself (by putting others down).

    “Knowing yourself is the beginning of all wisdom.” – Aristotle

    Know thyself.
    Nothing to excess.
    Surety brings ruin.

    (Three maxims carved into stone at the entrance to Apollo’s temple at Delphi in Greece, according to the internet.)

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