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Henri Matisse Window at Tangiers 1912

 

Public health experts must check ‘egos at the door’ – Malone (JTN)
Teenage Boys Are 14 Times More Likely To Suffer Rare Heart Complication From Pfizer’s Covid Jab
Pfizer and Moderna Go Head to Head Against Delta (MPT)
Hawaiian Airlines Latest Carrier To Mandate Covid Vaccinations For Staff (CNBC)
3 Major US Airlines Will Not Mandate Shots For Unvaccinated Workers (CNN)
What Would Our Economy Look Like In The Shadow Of Vaccine Passports? (Smith)
Oregon High School Grads Need Not Be Proficient in Reading, Writing, Math (JT)
Cuomo’s Legacy: Normalizing Corruption And Lawlessness (Sirota)
Billionaire-Backed Mining Firm To Seek EV Metals In Greenland (R.)
Assange In Court Today (Rozenberg)

 

 

 

 

Ducky Bomb

 

 

Vaxx the young!

 

 

Pr. Raoult: viral loads are not correlated to the symptomatic/asymptomatic condition of the patient.

 

 

Sometime I think I have Malone overkill, but kudo’s to him. John Solomon has lots of readers.

Public Health Experts Must Check ‘Egos At The Door’ – Malone (JTN)

Dr. Robert Malone urges public health officials to “check [their] egos at the door” and change their policies with the science regarding the COVID-19 pandemic. Malone, an immunologist and epidemiologist who says he invented the mRNA technology that’s used in the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, explained on the John Solomon Reports podcast on Monday that new mutant variants of COVID-19 “are able to bypass, to a significant extent, the protection afforded by the current vaccines.” With the immune systems of everyone who’s vaccinated trained to fight the virus in the same way, “what that’s going to do is create a setup where once we do have a fully functional viral escape mutant, there will be no barriers to it spreading rapidly through the human population and, basically, completely abrogating any benefits associated with the vaccines,” he warned.

“What we had been told, that these vaccines are protective, they’re going to protect us, they’re going to prevent us from getting infected, they’re going to prevent us from having virus replicate in our bodies, and they’re going to prevent us from infecting other people, those are not true,” Malone said. “And there has been a variety of statements to the effect that those responsible for these effects, this viral evolution, are the unvaccinated. That’s just not true.” Malone, who has received the Moderna vaccine, recommends using therapeutics early on in COVID-19 infections to recover from the virus. He mentioned that the director of the National Center for Advanced Technology at National Institutes of Health (NIH) resigned from his position because he was frustrated when his team identified “repurpose drug candidates” that could be used to fight COVID-19 “but just couldn’t get any capital from NIH to advance them.”

Dr. Anthony Fauci has “two odd, exclusive focuses,” Malone said. One is “only focusing on antivirals when this is a hyperinflammatory disease, and we’ve got a lot of great anti-inflammatories. And the other is the focus on hospitalized, as opposed to early-onset patients, outpatients.” Malone compared the “paradox” of focusing on hospitalized patients, rather than early-onset patients, to someone going to the hospital with COVID-19 symptoms but being turned away because they weren’t sick enough to be hospitalized.

He added that instead of admitting they were wrong with their COVID-19 policies, like scientists do when confronted with a changing reality, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is censoring people by “using these incredibly powerful new tools to suppress any dissent or discussion.” Malone has personally experienced censorship. His LinkedIn account was suspended without explanation over his comments on the COVID-19 vaccines before it was later restored.

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Very small study.

Teenage Boys Are 14 Times More Likely To Suffer Rare Heart Complication From Pfizer’s Covid Jab (DM)

Pfizer’s Covid vaccine may pose more of a risk to boys, a study claimed today amid growing calls for No10 to rethink plans to dish out jabs to children. New research has suggested boys are 14 times more likely to be struck down with a rare heart complication called myocarditis. The data, from the US, will likely fuel an already fierce debate over Britain’s decision to press ahead with inoculating all 16 and 17-year-olds. Last week, the Government’s advisory panel ruled older teenagers should be given their first dose. Ministers plan to invite them before they head back to schools and colleges in September. But health officials have yet to make concrete plans for children to get top-ups. They want to wait for more safety data about myocarditis before pressing ahead.

Real-world data from the US, which has been vaccinating children for months, have shown teenage boys to be at a higher risk. It prompted one member of the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation, which green-lighted the move to jab children, to admit different advice for boys was ‘theoretically on the cards’. There is already precedent for just giving vaccinating just one gender, with the HPV jab offered only to girls until 2018. The new research, published in JAMA Cardiology, was based on an analysis of just 15 children struck down with myocarditis after getting Pfizer’s vaccine — which will be given to British children. Only one was a girl.

The findings echo data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), which suggests the risk is up to nine times higher among teenage boys. All 15 experienced chest pain, which started a couple of days after being vaccinated and lasted for up to nine days. None were struck down with a serious bout of myocarditis or required intensive care. All were discharged within five days. But doctors at Boston Children’s Hospital cautioned that the long-term risks of post-vaccination myocarditis ‘remain unknown’.

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Pfizer 42% effective in July. Not enough for a EUA.

Pfizer and Moderna Go Head to Head Against Delta (MPT)

Moderna’s COVID-19 vaccine appeared to have a higher effectiveness rate compared with the Pfizer vaccine during the period of time when the Delta variant first became predominant, researchers reported. While both vaccines were highly protective against infection from January to July in Minnesota (Moderna 86%, Pfizer 76%), their effectiveness estimates declined during the month of July, with an estimate of 76% for Moderna (95% CI 69-81) and 42% for Pfizer (95% CI 13-62), reported Venky Soundararajan, PhD, of nference, a healthcare research company in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and colleagues.

Moreover, in a matched cohort from multiple states, a two-fold risk reduction against breakthrough infection was seen with Moderna’s vaccine versus Pfizer’s (incidence rate ratio [IRR] 0.50, 95% CI 0.39-0.64), the authors wrote in a study published on the preprint server medRxiv. However, they found no significant differences in the rate of complications in breakthrough cases from either vaccine, with similar rates of 21-day hospitalizations, 21-day ICU admissions, and 28-day mortality. An earlier report of a Cape Cod cluster of breakthrough infections published in Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report late last month did not seem to find an imbalance between the percentage of breakthrough infections and the percentage of Massachusetts residents who received the vaccine (46% and 56% with Pfizer, and 38% and 38% with Moderna, respectively).

In the current study, Soundararajan and co-authors examined adults in the Mayo Clinic Health System or affiliated hospitals in Minnesota, Arizona, Florida, Iowa, and Wisconsin with at least one PCR test for SARS-CoV-2 who received at least one dose of Pfizer or Moderna vaccine after Dec. 1, 2020 but before July 29, 2021, and who did not test positive prior to receiving their first vaccine dose. Overall, 119,463 patients met this criteria for the Pfizer vaccine, and 60,083 met this criteria for Moderna, the authors said. Notably, the prevalence of Delta variant in Minnesota in July was 70% compared with a prevalence of 0.7% in January.

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Oh well. Take a different airline.

Hawaiian Airlines Latest Carrier To Mandate Covid Vaccinations For Staff (CNBC)

Hawaiian Airlines told U.S. staff they will be required to be vaccinated against Covid-19, becoming the third major carrier to issue such a mandate in less than a week. CEO Peter Ingram told employees Monday that they must receive their second shot, if they are getting a two-dose vaccine, by Nov. 1, though there will be exceptions for medical or religious reasons, according to a staff memo reviewed by CNBC. Last week, United Airlines became the country’s first major carrier to mandate vaccines, requiring that its 67,000-person U.S. workforce show proof of inoculation by Oct. 25 at the latest. Frontier Airlines also announced that it will require that its employees be vaccinated against Covid by Oct. 1 or that they are regularly tested.


“It is not a decision I take lightly, and I would acknowledge that my own thinking on this has evolved over the last few months as I have watched this pandemic continue to take its terrible toll,” Ingram said in his note. He said senior leadership “deliberated extensively” and consulted the board of directors. “Safety is the foundation of air travel, and it is ingrained throughout our operation and service. This is no different,” he said. Most other U.S. airlines have encouraged but not mandated that staff get vaccinated. However, Delta Air Lines said in the spring that new hires would need to show proof of vaccination. United had followed suit several weeks later. Southwest Airlines CEO Gary Kelly told employees Monday that United’s announcement last week sparked questions from its own staff about the airline’s stance. “We continue to strongly encourage Employees to get vaccinated,” Kelly said. “We are continually evaluating the effects of the pandemic. Obviously, I am very concerned about the latest Delta variant, and the effect on the health and Safety of our Employees and our operation, but nothing has changed.”

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“We certainly encourage it everywhere we can, encourage it for our customers and our employees, but we’re not putting mandates in place..”

3 Major US Airlines Will Not Mandate Shots For Unvaccinated Workers (CNN)

The CEOs of Southwest Airlines, American Airlines and Delta Air Lines say they are not requiring unvaccinated employees to receive the shot, breaking with United Airlines’ mandate that workers get vaccinated by October 25 or face getting fired. In an internal memo obtained by CNN, Southwest Airlines CEO Gary Kelly said the airline will “continue to strongly encourage” that workers get vaccinated, but the airline’s stance has not shifted. “Obviously, I am very concerned about the latest Delta variant, and the effect on the health and Safety of our Employees and our operation, but nothing has changed,” Kelly said. Delta Air Lines CEO Ed Bastian told Good Day New York on Tuesday that 75% of its workforce has already been vaccinated even without a companywide mandate.


In May, Delta became the first major carrier to require that all new hires be vaccinated. United Airlines made a similar announcement in June. “I think there’s some additional steps and measures we can take to get the vaccine rates even higher, but what we’re seeing is every day is those numbers continue to grow,” Bastian said. Both announcements follow a New York Times podcast interview with American Airlines CEO Doug Parker, who said the airline is giving workers who get vaccinated by the end of this month one extra day of vacation in 2022. “We certainly encourage it everywhere we can, encourage it for our customers and our employees, but we’re not putting mandates in place,” said Parker. In a statement, American Airlines said there was “no update at this time” to its vaccination policy. “We are strongly encouraging our team members to get vaccinated, and we are offering an incentive for those who do.”

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“Simply put, vaccine passports could result in the death of what’s left of the free market as we know it.”

What Would Our Economy Look Like In The Shadow Of Vaccine Passports? (Smith)

The real concern with a vaccine passport has nothing to do with coronavirus, or herd immunity, or saving lives. It’s a tool of control. Like the Soviet Union’s communist party membership card, it’s an official document that demonstrates compliance to authority. It’s a tool to divide the U.S. population. If this autocratic diktat was directed at a tiny minority of people within the population, it might work at frightening them into accepting the vaccinations; to go along to get along. But, with hundreds of millions of people saying “no way,” history tells us the more pressure applied the more rebellion is inspired. Second, we have to consider what the immediate economic and financial effects will be in light of this conflict. For example, look at the amount of relocation and migration that has happened in the U.S. in the past year alone.

Many millions of people have escaped from predominantly blue states based on political and social factors; and the covid mandates and lockdowns are a big part of what inspired most people to leave. As has been well documented, blue states are much slower in recovering economically when compared to red states with less restrictions. Not only that, but money moves with people. This is a hard reality. Conservative states are seeing ample cash inflows from tourism and mass migration while blue states are bleeding tax revenues. In light of this revelation, red states are going to ask themselves this question: “Why would we commit economic suicide like the blue states by following their example? Wouldn’t vaccine passports be the equivalent of blue state covid mandates times a hundred?”

But let’s say for a moment that vaccine passports were somehow implemented everywhere in the country at the same exact time. What would happen then? Well, the amount of bureaucracy that would be added between the average consumer and everyday trade would be immense, and with red tape comes a slowdown in business. Whole new wings of the government would have to be created to track and enforce vaccine passports rules (I say “rules” because none of the mandates have ever been passed into law or voted on by the public). Regular inspections of businesses would have to be enacted, and new taxes would have to be created to pay for the system. The amount of space and employees needed to meet new standards for retailers would increase in order to check every customer that comes through the door for a passport.

Also, let’s not forget that many thousands of people in multiple states have had “breakout” covid infections despite being fully vaccinated, which means rules on social distancing and masking will also still be in place. The amount of capital that a business owner would have to spend to meet the government requirements would continue to rise while their profits would continue to fall. Eventually, the majority of small businesses would close, just as we saw during the first series of lockdowns. Smaller businesses, which represent about half of the U.S. retail economy, would be under so much stress from maintaining the proper restrictions and adding infrastructure that they simply would not be able to compete with major corporations and Big Box stores.

The end result would be the complete disintegration of the small business sector (except perhaps online retailers). Only national and international conglomerates would be left behind to provide brick-and-mortar services to the public, and of course many millions of jobs would be lost in the process. Less competition means ever increasing prices and a lower quality of goods and services. Simply put, vaccine passports could result in the death of what’s left of the free market as we know it. The majors will know they have the public by the scruff of the neck, so why bother trying anymore? They can throw us scraps from the table and we would have to take them and be happy with what we get.

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The pilot story is great: “no one dies on the plane.”

Oregon High School Grads Need Not Be Proficient in Reading, Writing, Math (JT)

I was once told by a pilot that jet bridges are the most dangerous places in aviation because “no one dies on the plane.” When someone has a fatal episode on a plane, the preference is to move the person outside to “call the code” on the bridge rather than require the plane to be held or quarantined due to the death. If you just move them outside, they died somewhere else. The result is that it can be challenging to determine how many people actually die on airplanes. That story came to mind this week as more schools moved to end standardized testing — a move that can guarantee no one fails in their schools. In this case, students who lack proficiency in basic subjects are being sent out into society or even college to fail somewhere else. Anywhere other than the school.

Many of us have long objected to the chronic failure of public schools in major cities like New York, Detroit, Washington, D.C. and Baltimore to achieve bare proficiency for many students in reading, writing, and math. The response in many districts is for some to declare standardized testing or meritocracy as racist while other district eliminate special programs or schools for gifted students. Oregon has found a simpler approach. Gov. Kate Brown (D) just signed a bill last month that drops any proficiency requirement in reading, writing or math, before graduation. Problem solved. The short bill includes this provision: “SECTION 3. Notwithstanding any rules adopted by the State Board of Education, a student may not be required to show proficiency in Essential Learning Skills as a condition of receiving a high school diploma during the 2021-2022, 2022-2023 or 2023-2024 school year.”

The pandemic was the basis for initial suspension of such requirements but now it is being extended. The call for a more “inclusive and equitable review of graduation and proficiency requirements” was supported by Foundations for a Better Oregon to change requirement to “reflect what every student needs to thrive in the 21st century.” That appears not to include proven proficiency in being able to write, read, or do simple math. The supporters insist that it is unfair to require students to show knowledge on tests. Charles Boyle, the deputy communications director from Gov. Brown’s office, is quoted as saying that the new standards for graduation will help benefit the state’s “Black, Latino, Latinx, Indigenous, Asian, Pacific Islander, Tribal, and students of color.” The “benefit” however is more to the school district in getting kids out the door with a diploma without shouldering the burden to get them to a point of bare proficiency.

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He’ll get away with everything.

Cuomo’s Legacy: Normalizing Corruption And Lawlessness (Sirota)

The amazing thing about Andrew Cuomo’s announcement this week that he is stepping down as governor of New York is not that he left office, it is that it took this long for him to resign. And among the most troubling parts of the interminable saga is how many crimes he and New York politicians normalized in the process — because so many of these officials were complicit, too. Cuomo resigned in the wake of Attorney General Tish James’ report detailing his sexual crimes. But here’s the truth that’s hard to say aloud: If the New York governor had not been a sex pest, he likely would have gotten away with hiding thousands of people’s deaths in nursing homes and shielding his health care industry donors from any liability — all while profiting off a $5 million book deal and being venerated by liberals and corporate media outlets as a shining star.

In fact, unless things suddenly change, he will get away with those crimes. With U.S. Attorneys so far declining to prosecute Cuomo on those matters — and with New York’s legislature refusing to begin impeachment proceedings on those issues — the federal and state political systems made sure these crimes weren’t considered transgressions at all. Same goes for many New York Democratic voters — a new poll shows that even now, a plurality of them say they approve of the way Cuomo has done his job. To be sure, Democratic Assemblyman Ron Kim’s nursing home crusade, and his allegations that Cuomo tried to bully him into silence, created a singular political earthquake that shook the New York political system and media into finally scrutinizing the gubernatorial monster that had long been rampaging through Albany.

But the refusal to prosecute or impeach Cuomo over that epic scandal has further normalized that kind of corruption. Indeed, presiding over a massacre of elderly people and shielding the perpetrators all to ingratiate oneself with political financiers is now just regular politics. That’s now what politicians are allowed — and even expected — to do, everywhere. While President Biden’s former top aide lobbies the White House on behalf of the nursing home industry, the Biden Justice Department recently said it will not open an investigation into nursing home negligence and COVID-related deaths in New York and other states. Case closed. The nursing home massacre is just one of many examples of Cuomo lawlessness that should have elicited a law enforcement response — but didn’t.

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Even more reason to promote electric cars. Bill Gates is here to help you. There is still hope.

Billionaire-Backed Mining Firm To Seek EV Metals In Greenland (R.)

Mineral exploration company KoBold Metals, backed by billionaires including Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates, has signed an agreement with London-listed Bluejay Mining to search in Greenland for critical materials used in electric vehicles. KoBold, which uses artificial intelligence and machine learning to hunt for raw materials, will pay $15 million in exploration funding for the Disko-Nuussuaq project on Greenland’s west coast in exchange for a 51% stake in the project, Bluejay said in a statement. Shares in BlueJay traded 26% higher on the news. The license holds metals such as nickel, copper, cobalt and platinum and the funding will cover evaluation and initial drilling.


KoBold is a privately-held company whose principal investors include Breakthrough Energy Ventures, a climate and technology fund backed by Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates, Bloomberg founder Michael Bloomberg, Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, and Ray Dalio, founder of the world’s largest hedge fund Bridgewater Associates. Other KoBold investors include Silicon Valley venture capital fund Andreessen Horowitz and Norwegian state-controlled energy company Equinor. BlueJay said previous studies found the area in western Greenland has similarities to the geology of Russia’s Norilsk region, a main producer of nickel and palladium. “This agreement is transformative for Bluejay,” said the comany’s CEO Bo Steensgaard. “We are delighted to have a partner at the pinnacle of technical innovation for new exploration methods, backed by some of the most successful investors in the world.”

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La honte.

Assange In Court Today (Rozenberg)

Two judges in the High Court will be dealing with a preliminary issue this morning in the extradition case against Julian Assange. The US government wants the Wikileaks founder to face trial in the US on charges of conspiracy to obtain and disclose national defence information. In January, District Judge Baraitser ruled that it would be oppressive to extradite him. Last month, Mr Justice Swift granted the US permission to appeal to the High Court on three of the five grounds in its application for permission. I explained what we know of Swift’s reasons last week. Today’s hearing is before Lord Justice Holroyde and Mrs Justice Farbey. It starts at 10.30 and is expected to conclude before lunch. The judges will be sitting in the largest courtroom in the Royal Courts of Justice in London with a video link to an adjoining courtroom.


The hearing will take place remotely — which I understand to mean that not everyone involved will be present in court. It’s understood that the US will be renewing its request for permission to appeal on the two grounds dismissed by Swift. These related to the evidence of a defence psychiatrist and the risk that Assange would commit suicide. Swift found that Baraitser’s findings were reasonably open to her and her conclusions on the disputed evidence were also reasonable. He said the matters referred to in the application for permission to appeal — we have no idea what these were — “are no more than an attempt to re-run determination of the evidential disputes reached by the district judge”. It’s not known whether Assange’s lawyers will be challenging the grounds on which Swift granted the US permission to appeal.

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    Henri Matisse Window at Tangiers 1912   • Public health experts must check ‘egos at the door’ – Malone (JTN) • Teenage Boys Are 14 Times More Lik
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle August 11 2021]

    #83292
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Henri Matisse Window at Tangiers 1912

    There it is…all you need to know…
    Flee, flee to you don’t know where…
    Flee until you cannot…
    Settle and collect what you need…then move on………….

    #83293
    Red
    Participant

    Debt Rattle August 10 2021

    “I agree with Polder Dweller that if much tighter social and political control is the aim of this “New Normal”, then there has to be a reason all this coordinated effort is necessary. And the reason that most readily presents itself is that some form of big economic change is coming whether we want it to happen or not.”

    There may be reason enough explained in detail here:
    #208. A path of reason, part one

    Dr. Morgan maintains the economic system is really an energy system and monies are a claim on what that energy is used to create, period. As such the western economies have been stagnant for a long time with most in “degrowth” since about ’05+/-. The monetary claims out there on what’s left in the natural world are far and above what actually exists. The gap is massive when looked at. The economy has been run as if infinite resources exist and don’t really matter anyway because work arounds are always waiting in the wings. The covid narrative is a great way of creating a diversion that is exactly what is required to keep from using the last of everything! Stop gratuitous travel, shut down global supply chains save on fuel. The worlds MIC’s aren’t about to allow the general global population to use the last drops of fuel while they polish their tanks and planes without petrol to use them.

    #83294
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Chris Martenson’s video that I posted up here last night provided a reason why the Delta Variant would make the usual therapeutic deployments less effective: The feature of this variant that causes increased contagiousness also causes increased viral load. So as the nature of the infection is firing more “ammunition” at the human physiology, any treatments that are administered will also have to fire more “counter-ammunition” back at it.

    What puzzled me is that Dr. Martenson, after furnishing an explanation of why Delta packs more of a punch (so even if it’s a lot less likely to result in fatality, it can still make a person with severe illness sicker and more rapidly), he implies that there’s an ADE effect going on here by bringing up Dr. Geert Van Den Bossche. The thing is, if it’s Delta, then we probably shouldn’t be saying that it’s ADE just yet, because the Delta Variant emerged in India when there wasn’t much of a vaccination campaign underway there.

    And as Raul pointed out yesterday, it will probably take some time for ADE to emerge, if that’s going to be something that happens.

    #83295
    oxymoron
    Participant

    In response to Deflationistas points yesterday about paranoia here on this forum – The alt viewpoint is appreciated but needs to convince that is where the hard work shines through. Dr D was quite contrary to the echo chamber here as early as Jan 2020 and it took till March or April to cut through to me. He did the work showed us some maths, ran through the data and changed minds (with a little help here and there).
    You could attempt to do the same.
    I don’t need a great deal of data and numbers anymore. I see enough evidence, with the ubiquitous attempts to work against, rather than with nature and the pathetic hope of a society enthralled with techno-optimism to know this wont work. Computers usher in the paperless economy, glyphosate safe to drink, recycling plastics for re-use, antibiotics ending all infections forever.
    The idea that people can stare in some kind of Cartesian mindset through electron microscopes and compose a symphony of hope for this virus is a joke. If it were remotely possible, we would have already invented the genetically engineered fish that eat the 1.8 billion face masks already in the ocean (for another 450 years) and turn them into hipster fish-burgers for the free market and NY night life.
    We gotta get back to the garden folks.
    We gotsta localise our arse-off right now. And I can’t imagine that a genetically engineered vaccine will prove safe and effective in the long term. Has anyone here – particularly Democritus – planted the seed from GM corn or soy and then seen it grow through a season?

    It is not pretty and it is not healthy.
    They have worked on this stuff for a long time and nobody is looking as healthy as a peasant farmer from 400 years ago, no do they have the leisure time and the beauty of a world without cars and drones

    #83296
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    I’m learning, I guessed that was a Matisse before reading the description.

    Worse Than The Disease? Reviewing Some Possible Unintended Consequences of The mRNA Vaccines Against COVID-19
    —S. Seneff, MIT and G. Nigh, Naturopathic Oncology, Immersion Health

    “ In order to adequately rule out the adverse potentialities described in this paper, we recommend, at a minimum, that the following research and surveillance practices be adopted:
    • A national effort to collect detailed data on adverse events associated with the mRNA vaccines with abundant funding allocation, tracked well beyond the first couple of weeks after vaccination.
    • Repeated autoantibody testing of the vaccine-recipient population. The autoantibodies tested could be standardized and should be based upon previously documented antibodies and autoantibodies potentially elicited by the spike protein. These include autoantibodies against phospholipids, collagen, actin, thyroperoxidase (TPO), myelin basic protein, tissue transglutaminase, and perhaps others.
    • Immunological profiling related to cytokine balance and related biological effects. Tests should include, at a minimum, IL-6, INF-α, D-dimer, fibrinogen, and C-reactive protein.
    • Studies comparing populations who were vaccinated with the mRNA vaccines and those who were not to confirm the expected decreased infection rate and milder symptoms of the vaccinated group, while at the same time comparing the rates of various autoimmune diseases and prion diseases in the same two populations.
    • Studies to assess whether it is possible for an unvaccinated person to acquire vaccine-specific forms of the spike proteins from a vaccinated person in close proximity.
    • In vitro studies to assess whether the mRNA nanoparticles can be taken up by sperm and converted into cDNA plasmids.
    • Animal studies to determine whether vaccination shortly before conception can result in offspring carrying spike-protein-encoding plasmids in their tissues, possibly integrated into their genome.
    • In vitro studies aimed to better understand the toxicity of the spike protein to the brain, heart, testes, etc”

    https://www.scribd.com/document/519637770/Document

    #83297
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    from yesterday:

    cafone wrote: I think we can all agree that whatever ADE or Delta variant is/isn’t happening, the ADE meme is growing; and buzz rules media. It can’t ignore buzz.

    abs galoreThe Delta variant, yes. But you have seen ADE discussed majorly in a major media source? JMG notwithstanding, many of the “memes” we chat about are completely unknown to the majority of consumers of msm. Not only because the bigger outlets don’t mention them, but because many of the smaller ones get censored.

    The reason ADE will have an even tougher row to hoe than Ivermectin or adverse reactions is because it makes the cure worse than the disease, and nobody wants to hear that.

    The buzz outside the msnbassy mediaplex is what they can’t ignore if it grows too robust. To Genzies, Joe Rogan podcasts are totally mainstream. In the end, mainstream media is a giant unwieldy surfboard riding the public infowaves. Now it’s deep in its own pipeline of its own self-made megawave tsunami, and doomed to wipeout while a hundred smaller surfers have at it, free-style (but with ample disinfo, astroturf, co-option, etc.).

    “@madam, “created by the United States … ” They’re all in it together. It’s called collaborating. Let’s stop pretending all these other countries are somehow innocent babes being taken advantage of.”

    I’ll weasel out here by citing “created” in the instigative sense: funding is creation. “Collaboration” is ‘others do the work’ (and provide cover via plausible deniability). Everyone guilty, as guilty goes. Karma is as karma does.

    A Place in the Rain

    #83298
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    They have worked on this stuff for a long time and nobody is looking as healthy as a peasant farmer from 400 years ago,

    We should remember, however, that 400 years ago, viruses and bacteria made life a lot shorter than it is today. Most educated people know this, so I think that may be why educated people are more easily driven into a prolonged neurotic state by the idea of a virus with lethal potential spreading around the world. However, these educated classes would do well to remember that allowing oneself to be driven to neurosis because there are things out there we can’t control, just turns one into an easily-controlled, self-defeating wreck of a person. And this is not exactly the key to living a long and healthy life.

    #83299
    teri
    Participant

    From the Mayo Clinic, Dr. Ryan Cole, a board certified pathologist with a PhD in immunology and virology, talks about the toxicity of the MRNA vaccines: (17 minutes):

    https://rumble.com/vkopys-a-pathologist-summary-of-what-these-jabs-do-to-the-brain-and-other-organs.html

    #83300
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Mister Roboto – thanks – yes true indeed. Life expectancy has increased in aggregate. It is a question of quantity versus quality I guess. I feel it is a little like Orlov and others have mentioned that once you get a pushbike as a technology pushing it further and further doesn’t make a great deal of difference (carbon fibre to steel) overall. I think endless push in the tech realm without deep consolidation of what we have is it’s own religion with so many unintended consequences. It is lord of more and not as much fun as promised. Even elites have plastics on their private beaches or smoke in the air around their condos.

    It’s also this notion of holding on so damned tight. We have to let go a little. Constant fear of a virus is turning into fear of living with decency – at least here in Australia – no one can see any smiles outside of the home due to masking and it is absolutely dark.

    #83301
    teri
    Participant

    Study published 23 July 2021, from Doctors for Covid Ethics. How the mRNA injections work. Summary of the findings of an animal study which Pfizer submitted to Japanese health authorities in 2020. [bolding in below excerpts are mine]

    Opening from study:
    Abstract
    We summarize the findings of an animal study which Pfizer submitted to the Japanese health authorities in 2020, and which pertained to the distribution and elimination of a model mRNA vaccine. We show that this study clearly presaged grave risks of blood clotting and other adverse effects. The failure to monitor and assess these risks in the subsequent clinical trials, and the grossly negligent review process in conjunction with the emergency use authorizations, have predictably resulted in an unprecedented medical disaster. […]

    Conclusions from study:
    Summary
    Pfizer’s animal data clearly presaged the following risks and dangers:
    • blood clotting shortly after vaccination, potentially leading to heart attacks, stroke, and venous thrombosis
    • grave harm to female fertility
• grave harm to breastfed infants
• cumulative toxicity after multiple injections
    With the exception of female fertility, which can simply not be evaluated within the short period of time for which the vaccines have been in use, all of the above risks have been substantiated since the vaccines have been rolled out—all are manifest in the reports to the various adverse event registries [9]. Those registries also contain a very considerable number of reports on abortions and stillbirths shortly after vaccination, which should have prompted urgent investigation.
    We must emphasize again that each of these risks could readily be inferred from the cited limited preclinical data, but were not followed up with appropriate in- depth investigations. In particular, the clinical trials did not monitor any laboratory parameters that could have provided information on these risks, such as those related to blood coagulation (e.g. D-dimers/thrombocytes), muscle cell damage (e.g. troponin/creatine kinase), or liver damage (e.g. γ-glutamyltransferase). That the various regulatory agencies granted emergency use authorization based on such incomplete and insufficient data amounts to nothing less than gross negligence.
    Of particularly grave concern is the very slow elimination of the toxic cationic lipids. In persons repeatedly injected with mRNA vaccines containing these lipids— be they directed against COVID, or any other pathogen or disease—this would result in cumulative toxicity. There is a real possibility that cationic lipids will accumulate in the ovaries. The implied grave risk to female fertility demands the most urgent attention of the public and of the health authorities.
    Since the so-called clinical trials were carried out with such negligence, the real trials are occurring only now—on a massive scale, and with devastating results. This vaccine, and others, are often called “experimental.” Calling off this failed experiment is long overdue. Continuing or even mandating the use of this poisonous vaccine, and the apparently imminent issuance of full approval for it are crimes against humanity.

    https://doctors4covidethics.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Pfizer-pharmacokinetics-and-toxicity.pdf

    #83302
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @oxy, my dog’s homeopathic vet (internationally known, book author) said one time, “People aren’t living longer, they’re just taking longer to die.”

    You are absolutely correct. Brilliant comments this morning (evening your time).

    #83303
    a kullervo
    Participant

    For those here willing to unstuck their heads away from the eye of the needle, here’s an interesting POV.

    #83304
    those darned kids
    Participant

    actually, people don’t live that much longer. back in the day, infant mortality was so high that average life expectancy was very low. if you made it past ten, you’d probably have a long life (watch out for accidents, though!).

    this same phenomenon can be seen today in the few hunter/gatherer societies left on the orb.

    #83305
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    How Humanity Gave Itself An Extra Life in The New York Times Magazine.

    #83306
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    Terry Jones of Monty Python fame did a series on what life was really like in Europe in the Middle Ages. Peasants, it turns, out were generally remarkably healthy and often survived into their 70s. They had much more free time than we do and taxes were typically 10%. As already said, infant mortality and accidents were a big problem though.

    Terry Jones’s Mediaeval Lives

    #83307
    chooch
    Participant

    Sheryl Attkisson produced a video on COVID-19 origins back in June highlighting the GOF research at Wuhan and the connections to Fauci and friends.

    In an interview with Larry Sparano on censorship in journalism. She commented on how pharma execs would pressure her management to hinder her from covering vaccine related safety stories.

    Remember when Trump was first elected, he had indicated that he was going to create a commission to review vaccine safety and have RFK jr. head it up, what happened?

    “Kennedy blamed the president’s shift on high-level “corruption” tying the administration to the pharmaceutical industry, which he claims has historically blocked research into vaccine safety to protect its own interests. “

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/21/trump-vaccination-safety-commission-robert-kennedy-autism

    Warp Speed instead.

    #83308
    those darned kids
    Participant

    Washington (APE) August 12, 2021: Today officials from the Federal Infrastructure, Security and Slush Initiative (FISSI), created under the Biden Administration’s Bribe Back Better to Rebuild America Plan (BBBRAP), announced a major initiative to restore America’s roads, bridges, tunnels and airports.

    Government agencies, working together in privblic partnership with drug maker Pfizer Inc., Halliburton Road Systems, and Raytheon Death Stuff, will begin injecting the Pfizer-BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine into the decaying concrete and cement that comprises much of America’s crumbling vital infrastructure.

    “We feel the clotting properties of this injection, coupled with the free market spirit of American Cronyism, will protect, strengthen, and reinvigorate our roadwork, keeping Americans safe and ready to fight wars for generations to come”, remarked President Biden’s stunt double.

    #83309
    zerosum
    Participant

    Book writing ideas from TAE

    Unintended Consequences

    suppress any dissent or discussion.

    highly protective against infection

    risk reduction against breakthrough infection

    lack proficiency

    chronic failure

    the real clinical trials are occurring only now—on a massive scale

    ———–

    (ADE) antibody dependent enhancement

    ADE occurs when the antibodies generated during an immune response recognize and bind to a pathogen, but they are unable to prevent infection.

    The ADE of virus infection is a phenomenon in which virus-specific antibodies enhance the entry of virus, and in some cases the replication of virus

    ADE caused by enhanced viral replication has been observed for other viruses that infect macrophages, including dengue virus

    ADE of disease cannot be reliably predicted after either vaccination or treatment with antibodies

    ADE is when a disease is made worse or more severe in a person who was already exposed to the virus through a previous infection or vaccination (? seniors – flue shots ?)
    —————-

    face trial in the US on charges of conspiracy to obtain and disclose national defence war/killing/covid information.

    #83310
    zerosum
    Participant

    Another book idea
    Civil war – USA Style

    Drugs – pain killers

    Inflation – Southern border invasion

    Gun battle – 06 jan inquiry

    Arrest Warrants Issued For 52 ‘Fugitive’ Democrats After Texas Supreme Court Slaps Down Democrat Judge

    #83311
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “Dr. Morgan maintains the economic system is really an energy system and monies are a claim on what that energy is used to create,”

    Yes, this is the alpha and omega, overriding all else. That means Paper Promises won’t be paid. They default.
    How? That’s Deflationary. But also cripple TRUST that makes the system function, and the reason you aren’t getting paid in cash now, but they can get away with paying paper promises and green confetti to China.

    Naturally a top way to burn that pressure is if a Whooooooole latta latta old people died who don’t work and add, but ARE owed paper promises we’re not paying bc we need to take a giant d—k into space. Problem solved! Mass murders (WMD and ties to Al-q) gonna mass murder. Wait? That was wrong? Why didn’t you say something in 2008, 2002, 1994, 1969, and ever before? Oh ‘cause it’s YOU this time?

    The reason for the test to change in December, not now. Have you ever had them wait half a year to pull something pointless and not working before? ‘Cause that seems like if you didn’t it would open you up to 100,000 lawsuits instantly. So why? Because IF “everyone is vaccinated! Hooray, we win!” THEN there won’t be any Covid. Cuz we wons. Then it’s only the common cold (cuz new, bad, not working test), and all the deaths are totally, totally NOT Covid. Nor can it be the vaccine. Cuz, how could it react to a thing that isn’t out there? No no no. You’re overreacting, it’s just seasonal flu! Don’t you know seasonal flu is always, has always, been 170k? I mean duh! Isn’t that what Herr Docktor told you in 2020? And now when that’s perfectly normal you’re calling it CovidVaccineADE??? Wot a bunch of tin-hats.

    …Except just like this year, it’s 1M deaths, not 100k, and it IS ADE. …So that’s my scenario right now. But it’ll be even harder because it’s going to be half, there, attacked, break down, and be messy. So it could even be true that this IS the plan, and not be able to prove it.

    “viruses and bacteria made life a lot shorter than it is today.”

    This is not really true. They had wildly higher infant mortality drawing the numbers down. If you survived childhood, you would live to 70, which is why “Three score and 10” (=70) is in the Bible. Pretty well-known, long time. Like Tyrrell Corp, the replicants have a termination date that can’t really be extended, transhumanist dreams notwithstanding. For quality of life, they also didn’t WANT to totter around half-alive as it was considered unmanly. They wanted to go out with a bang, with real purpose. So if you get 60, and creaky, you’d TRY to go find danger on behalf of your people. …Rather than hide under a bed cowering, begging for one more second of quivering non-life.

    Strangely, Texas DOES have the right to arrest Reps on vacation, although it wouldn’t seem so. It’s written in the Texas constitution from the get-go. The Reps have to hold a vote to say “Do we want to do anything if they shirk their duties, get elected, and never show up,” and they have. Basically Texas SC is the only fallback, and they’ve ruled. I guess you could Federal SC that you’re not a slave and prisoner, but that might not go either. I mean, it’s government, when they pass house rules it’s technically “law”. So a no-law law, and “No American is safe when Congress is in session.” — Will Rogers.

    #83312
    absolute galore
    Participant

    John Michael Greer has started hosting a weekly open post discussion on Covid 19:
    https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/141510.html

    He writes more prolifically than Joyce Carol Oates, and still puts up a weekly essay with replies to the commentary, as well as daily musings on his subsidiary site (linked above), and all the rest. I’m guessing he is one of those high energy people who does not need much sleep, and/or is incredibly focused throughout the entire day. Possibly also related to his Asperger’s in some way. I observe with awe his immense output.

    I second UpstateNYer’s kudos to Oxymoron’s post today.

    #83313
    Oroboros
    Participant

    • 3 Major US Airlines Will Not Mandate Shots For Unvaccinated Workers (CNN)

    Yeh, they won’t make vaxes mandatory, as a proxy for the government, but they also know that half their staff will quit and bankrupt them. hahahaha!

    There are already amazing delays in air travel because of staff shortages. Gee, I wonder why.

    Any competitor in any industry at this perverse point in history advertising jobs that don’t require vaxes will get an avalanche of applicants.

    You what to short circuit the evil subbing out by governments of mandatory vaccination to the private sector just watch the mass resignations in industry after industry.

    Nurses are quitting in droves. How about cops and firemen, or air traffic controllers.

    How about food truck driver?

    #83314
    Oroboros
    Participant

    “Ducky Bomb? I am working finding HIV epitope in Spike Protein that elicits a CD4 MHC-2 t-cell activation response that would cause Spike Protein to make an antibody to HIV to finish up the VACCINE theory and it would be for HIV/AIDS”

    Once again, refer to Dr David Martin’s interview with Reiner Fuellmich.

    The patent trail for spike proteins started in the early 2000’s as a quest for an Aids/HIV vaccine. The spike protein was looking good back then as a contender. That why it was patented.

    The spike protein was dusted off and repurposed for the Covid Carnival.

    #83315
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @madam: “I’ll weasel out here by citing “created” in the instigative sense: funding is creation.

    lol. Slick weaseling you done there. Now you just need to prove it was only US funding that created those labs … 😉

    #83316
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    CDC gets caught in a lie AGAIN. Quelle surprise. A news article I found on Facebook made a claim that Florida’s hospitalization numbers surpassed NY at the 2020 peak, which didn’t line up with what I was seeing here. You hardly hear an ambulance go by except during yesterday’s surprise thunderboomer, the first ambulance I’d heard in two weeks.

    “Florida’s health department called out the incorrect CDC information publicly, stating earlier this week: “Wrong again. The number of cases @CDCgov released for Florida today is incorrect. They combined MULTIPLE days into one. We anticipate CDC will correct the record.”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/cdc-forced-adjust-sundays-florida-covid-case-count-lower-almost-50-after-state-health

    #83317
    TAE Summary
    Participant

    Your Daily Dose of Astounding Misinformation and Fear

    Currently a lot of people have a lot of money which they believe gives them a claim on energy, goods and services, but because of diminishing energy there are more claims than goods and services available. Someone will be disappointed. When Covid 19 arrived the TPTB saw an opportunity to address this by 1) making a lot of money to increase their claims on goods and services, 2) introducing a “New Normal” of tighter political and social control that would limit people’s claims on goods and service and 3) (this one is iffy) reducing the claims on goods and services by reducing the population.

    1) To make a lot of money they utilized mRNA tech that was hoped to work against HIV and engineered it to work against Covid 19. The tech was known to cause problems in lab animals including clotting and infertility, but high level corruption prevented this information from becoming widely known. They also knew that ADE was a possibility but this was also suppressed. At this point we really need to explore the unintended consequences of the vaccines. Variants are causing increased contagiousness and viral load and ADE may be here now or may take a while but as ADE becomes more well known it will be impossible to ignore.

    2) TPTB know that having things out of your control fosters a neurosis that makes people easier to control. Covid 19 was the perfect platform for this. So people are continually told the virus is more lethal than it is and they must continually disrupt their lives and do as ordered to save themselves and others. This prepares them for ever tightening controls. If Covid 19 was not introduced for this reason it has nonetheless been utilized for this purpose.
    3) Many of the claims in goods and services are held by the aged who have amassed them over a lifetime back in the day when linear thinking promised us the world. Whether planned or not, a virus that targets old people (who are of course useless eaters) could reduce the pressure on monetary systems.

    Much is done in the name of supposed prolonged life expectancy and claimed improved quality of life. To get this we work against nature. But technology reaches a point of diminishing returns. How much more useful is today’s bicycle than a bicycle from 100 years ago? Most will admit they are trading quantity for quality, but even this is mostly false. Even in the middle ages, once you passed the age of ten you were likely to live to 70, plus they had fewer pressures and more leisure time and a better social life (but no hot showers). People now aren’t living longer, they are taking longer to die. We need to quit chasing diminishing returns and get back to the garden.

    #83318
    Noirette
    Participant

    Political leaders and COV-19.

    Macron on Tik-Tok telling young ppl to get vaxxed! The arguments are as usual, you might get sick, get long covid, have to do it to protect others.

    I picked this brief vid (he has multiple vids up ..) as it shows his presentation, the sincere wide-open blue eyes, his black T-shirt with an OWL logo (link), the T-shirts with identical logo for sale? 🙂 (link)

    De Gaulle must be spinning around in his grave!

    It looks like crunch time for France, things are coming to a head, more on that later — here some background.

    Macron, EM, as he ‘runs’ the place (see Merkel or Biden for contrast..) is a strange and exceptional person. Heh, cocktail-psych analysis … The only person as a child he appeared to like – love was his Gran, a progressive school teacher. From a very young age he made definitive decisions. At age 12 he converted to Catholicism (from a vaguely Prot. / secular background, see pic in Church, it is cropped and blurred to obscure the setting, link.) At 15-16 he decided he would marry Brigitte, and accomplished that.

    He has never had friends, lovers, or ‘true’ confidantes (afaik!) other than his wife. He has ‘sympathies’, ppl he trusts and is matey with for a while, but those relations often shatter, because of his manipulatory behavior, his exploitation of relationships, his suck-up to and then discard, etc.

    He is Narcissus incarnate. EM exhibits manipulatory ‘narcissistic’ traits, but the original Narcissus who looked at his reflection, loved himself, one imagines — walked away from the beautiful silvery image, was unsure whether others loved him, or would, one day… EM is a zealot and considers himself imbued with a mission, to be the best, perhaps even something akin to a savior.

    He is a 5/10 actor for a pol; unfortunately, one attitude he has not been able to hide is his disdain, bordering on fear, of the lower classes, the deplorables, the scum, and so they see right through him. (See the mutual loathing, EM — Yellow Vests.)

    He (it appears) set out to become president in 2013 (if not well before) at the age of 36. Many observers and commentators have judged that he was aiming for 2022. How he came be elected in 2017 is a whole other, very interesting, saga.

    He is an ‘ultra-libéral’, a ‘technocrat’ (which covers many faults and sins), a globalist, a pro-EU-ist, and is totally uninterested in identity politics, LGTB, family policies, housing, global warming, etc.

    His techniques are quite simple: Distract. For ex, at the moment unemployment and pension schemes are being dismantled while everyone screams about the “Pass.” Propose, try to enforce, extravagantly, go over the top, and then back-track a bit; still 3 steps forward are gained. Bribe. For ex he just recently gave a bonus (unheard of) to every policeman, and they are not obligated to get the vax, which puts them mentally in the same class as the hyper-rich. Then -> rinse and repeat.

    Re COV-19, EM tried at first to understand what was going on, what was the best policy (perhaps merely for self-reassurance or pretence or hoping to be finally vindicated.) Then he was quickly aspirated into the VAX-PASS-REPRESS-KONTROL ideology and measures, as it fitted well with his ideological bents, beliefs, impulses, personal hates and hopes. (Not for re-election, per se.)

    I realise that Macron is a very pointed and particular example, an easy sell in a way. Boris Johnson is another story.

    tik tok: https://bit.ly/3Awcwge

    laligne shop, T shirt: https://bit.ly/3yDvaST

    Paris Match, EM at 12, speaking in church: https://bit.ly/3yFo4gS

    #83319
    teri
    Participant

    Just got a phone call from my older brother. My 29-year-old niece had a severe stroke last week. (Clot in her brain.) Had the Pfizer vaccine; not sure exactly when. In hospital, but off ventilator, can speak, can get up and take a few steps with a walker, but will have to be in rehab for some months trying to get left arm and leg working properly again. Not sure of long-term prognosis yet. Will be on prescribed blood thinners the rest of her life. She has an 8-year-old daughter.

    This shit isn’t just statistics any more. Not to me, anyway.

    Best of luck to everyone. Light a candle if you are so inclined.
    – Teri

    #83320
    Polder Dweller
    Participant
    #83321
    John Day
    Participant

    Passports To Nowhere (and garden pic, somewhere…)
    https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/08/passports-to-nowhere.html

    Earlier is better when treating a progressive viral illness with antivirals, which impair viral reproduction and spread.
    Seek out how to get a rapid antigen test for COVID if you get a summer-cold presentation in nose and throat, and be poised to treat with antivirals..
    Prophylaxis makes sense, also, notably in our present context, with the very transmissible Indian/delta strain.

    Ivermectin prophylaxis seems to be the best available long term prophylaxis for efficacy and low toxicity, and I have prescribed it for that since last fall. I began prescribing ivermectin-based treatment for illness in August 2020. (Ivermectin, zinc, doxycycline; Dr Borody’s protocol. Always vitamin-D)

    I posted Treat Your Own COVID 2/8/21 https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/02/treat-your-own-covid.html
    Information to order Indian ivermectin is there.
    People tell me the ivermectin from India takes 8-14 days to arrive in the US. (see blog link)

    A dosing for prophylaxis, is most ideally 0.2 mg//kg body weight per dose, days #1, #2 and every 7 days thereafter. Missed doses are made up when remembered.
    There are other prophylactic regimens, including once per month, but I think this one is the most foolproof.

    One can go to Tractor Supply Company and buy veterinary ivermectin. The veterinarian on the COVID treating-physicians listserv recommends the injectable form, taken orally, but most Americans just use the horse paste. Refrigerate after opening.

    That “single dose” in the tube of pasteis for a horse that weighs 10X what a human weighs. It is marked for weight for the initial dose. Anybody with livestock has given a lot of this, and has probably taken it a few times, too. having a syringe to measure the liquid accurately would be my approach, if I were to use this.
    https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/search/ivermectin%20injection?
    https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/search/ivermectin%20paste?

    I presume you are taking vitamin-D 5000 units per day already..
    25 – 50 mg zinc daily is good. I would not exceed 50, and consider 25 a sweet spot, since more inhibits copper uptake.
    Zinc is directly active against coronaviruses, known for 25 years.
    Quercetin helps it get into our cells, where it impairs viral replication.
    Sunflower lecithin greatly helps the body absorb quercetin. Both are found in our foods daily.
    Texas HEB has quercetin/bromelain caps. Just take 1/day. with HEB zinc.
    HEB also has sunflower lecithin powder. Take 1/4 teaspoon with the quercetin and zinc. A little more won’t hurt.
    Other grocers and drugstores should have similar choices.

    The vaccinated are also catching this bug a lot.
    None of the vaccines is very helpful, but they probably reduce ICU admissions and deaths.

    It is the non-sterilizing vaccines, not the unvaccinated, which are creating a selection-gradient to favor viral mutations to escape the vaccine-induced antibodies.
    The virus coexists with the antibodies in the vaccinated hosts, mainly sitting in the nasopharynx.
    As such, if a mutation eludes antibody attack, it is highly selected for reproduction, and spreads within the host. It spreads more if it jumps hosts.
    That is exactly what is happening, and it is completely mundane and predictable.
    Natural immunity is best and most durable, but requires catching COVID..
    Details are pretty well explained here: https://www.cure-hub.com/post/sars-cov-2-vaccines-breakthrough-infections-and-lasting-natural-immunity

    The Indian/Delta variant also has a much lower case fatality rate, 20% or lower than the original strain, but it may advance more aggressively in the hospitals. Treat early.

    #83322
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    2nd try

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    #83323
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Messing about with DNA, in general
    Messing about with the human genome, in general,
    Deliberate creation of SARS CoV2 virus (and/or things intended to be very much like it)
    The disease such a virus may or may not have caused
    The pandemic which that disease may or may not have triggered
    Unprecedented actions to control effected populations, obstensibly to curb the ostensible pandemic
    More messing about with human genome with experimental genetic vaccines

    Consequences of all of the above

    There ya have it

    The biggest Clinical Trials ever, of the most sophisticated genetic experiment ever : Homo Sapiens.

    #83325

    Polder, OWID has a share button bottom right, pick embed there. That works.

    #83326
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “Biden Says He Has No Regrets as Afghans Take Afghanistan.” Edited. Actually NBC was apoplectic with tragedy that Afghanistanis own Afghanistan again. How DARE you??? And Afghanistan defeats another useless, idiotic tottering empire, making their record 7-0, just like we said in 2002. Remember, “What good is it to send a missile to hit a camel in the butt?” 25 years and a trillion dollars ago? Yeah, well the plan was to hollow out the U.S. and Pentagon to lose the country Constitution to China while making enormous Derp State profits that would finalize open fascism, so… mostly worked. Title Continues, “…Afghans Have No Refuge”. I mean except Afghanistan, their country of honor and citizenship, and militarily superior to the United States. Except for their own country, and every other country with an immigration policy, they have nowhere to go.

    How come headlines aren’t “Afghans finally liberate their country, kick out invaders, and hang traitors”? Catchy. …And that’s what you get when you trust the Anglos. Ask Kurdistan.

    CDC sends ventilators to Florida as a national embarrassment, drawing attention to the CDC simply fabricating case numbers. That’s right, they stacked up 3 days’, then dropped them as if one day, then had “CNN Reports”!
    Every Thing. Every Lie. Every Day.

    “Feds Warn of Potential Violence Fueled by False Election Claims”

    Which is why they have masks and are being irrationally antagonistic. They need and have planned this violence, on command, run by Judge Sullivan’s and the FBI agent’s sons. All set to rumble. Don’t show up and ignore them, it’ll be hilarious.

    They’re about to collapse, and I’m about to laugh at them.

    Curse you and your inevitable betrayal!”

    #83327
    Susmarie108
    Participant

    @Kids: your insightful connection between the Gold Standard and the environment got me thinking about the destruction of health. How does America’s BMI (body mass index) relate to the timeline?

    One more thought: how does current BMI by State overlay with with the current Delta (assuming that’s the one) surge?

    VVets post last night about a national public health campaign involving diet, sleep, etc. – is right on. However we all know that will never happen, as it would get folks to ask WHY did we didn’t try preventative, pro-active treatment options in the first place. THEY can’t let that happen.

    @oxy – at least 20+ years ago, I returned home (Ohio/Indiana) during late August months – also known as sweet corn season. Traveling through familiar countryside I noticed something strange with the corn fields…could not quite put my finger on it. They just didn’t look or “feel” quite right to me. I would have described the corn as being fierce, more compact, with sharp angled pointy shoots. I had no understanding of GM at that point but did notice the signs posted along the fields/roads with references to type/lineage. So do tell about the side-by-side experiment.

    Now between 3 fires…….LOVE to All.

    #83328
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    It is patently obvious that the stats contained in the interactive chart that Raul just embedded from OWID are evidence of SOMETHING, but it sure as hell isn’t evidence of legitimate information of about confirmed Covid-19 cases.

    Examination of the numbers from any and every perspective ( medical, statistical, political, logical, etc ) returns the same result : IMPOSSIBILITY.

    341 cases in one place and 15 cases right next door ? Consistently? North American case numbers in lockstep with HALF of Europe . . . and virtually reverse with the OTHER half of europe? I mean give me a fucking break. That is absurd.

    Those 6 countries are NOT measuring the same thing using the same criteria within the same time frame. It is just not physically possible .

    I can barely believe that OWID actually published this hogwash. Yet there it is. Stunning! OWID is so breathtakingly incompetent that they peddling bull shit and include the interactive PROOF of it at the same time.

    Wow. I mean, just, WOW!

    #83329
    Polder Dweller
    Participant
    #83330
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    <iframe src=”https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+cases&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=ISR~PSE&hideControls=true” loading=”lazy” style=”width: 100%; height: 600px; border: 0px none;”></iframe>

    <iframe src=”https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+deaths&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=ISR~PSE&hideControls=true” loading=”lazy” style=”width: 100%; height: 600px; border: 0px none;”></iframe>

    <iframe src=”https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=People+vaccinated&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=ISR~PSE&hideControls=true” loading=”lazy” style=”width: 100%; height: 600px; border: 0px none;”></iframe>

    #83331
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    Sorry, I’m too stupid to get this to work.

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