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    Dr. D
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    Nutsy bombs in a ceasefire, DIRECTLY against Trump, just like bombing the whole negotiation party.

    Aaaaand? And perfect. Never better. This is EXACTLY Zelensky in the White House, all over again. America can see Nutsy spit on us personally, being radically anti-peace. Did someone PAY him to do this? Too perfect.

    So Israel doesn’t control themselves either? Some rogue area just missiled on the peace ‘cuz they felt like it, therefore injecting themselves in peace negotiations?

    “NATO Chief Butters Up Trump, While Touting Ukraine’s ‘Irreversible Path’ To NATO Membership

    Still at it. This tells Russia they need to keep fighting and not talk: good job.

    Also the “Nuclear strike” tells every other nation they need to kick out their inspectors and get a Nuke, pronto: good job.

    “You’re walking into a trap, Putin told him. A trap that was laid long before”

    Repeating from yesterday. Ding Ding Ding. Two traps: “Three World Wars” they need us to fight for no earthly reason to physical, economic, moral, and spiritual exhaustion, proving all humans are scum who can only be ruled with an iron 1984 fist. “The Lotus Eaters” are already falling for this, saying they need strong men to re-establish law and expel migrants. Pushme-Pullu, your wish is my command, Maestro. One Mussolini it is. And then?

    The other trap is the only leverage they have on Trump is to make him choose between the bought congress, and MAGA base over Israel. No matter which he choses, he loses. MAGA is so retarded they don’t realize this is all a scam. Look: like right now, WE think we are all fighting EACH OTHER. We’re not. If you know 90% of all this Trannyfa is paid, bought in street riots, blackmailed judges and other Americans don’t want this, then you can all stop focusing on each other and go get THEM, Europe, or whatever bad guy has been paying to create all this trouble. It’s not Us.

    “100:1 gold derivative exposure—over $1 trillion—on London and NY exchanges.”

    Squeezing them on all sides like a Boa. Way too complicated, but Luongo covers a dozen bond markets TL;DR, Powell’s work is causing a dollar shortage. The only way to get dollars right now in U.S. That puts US in control. There’s no USD replacement, not even BTC. Europe can’t “create” them they way they were. How would they do that? Collateral. Or taxing massively, as in during a major (world) war. (aka Covid)

    …Or to erase law altogether and install fascism, as in Europe. Then no matter what you do to survive, they can’t complain about it.

    “in the Hague with NATO, whose EU members want him to join in an attack on Russia. They say: we went up to 5% spending. now you have to fight with us. The last thing Trump wants, but the EU has lost to Russia and wants to save face. At any cost.”

    Oh you mean like that? Printing a trillion like that? You remember 5 years ago, EU said they needed to just print $100T dollars? Yup. Just print it. (was that for Eco? Can’t remember) Again: Plan A: the U.S. fights Russia while they watch and both destroy each other. They think they can “Promise” to buy a few missiles 10 years in the future and all good, we nuke Russia this weekend then. Uh, sure pal.

    “The message: the whole of Israel is now a legitimate target – reached within minutes by Kheybar-Shakan, Emad, Qadr, and Fattah-1 missiles.”

    Awww. Again, do you have any idea how far Israel is from Iran? Wtf? This is totally bizarre and totally voluntary. This can only be set up and kept hot from the outside, because neither of these nations can actually come into friction with each other. Why doesn’t Tel Aviv go to war with Italy? Or Bulgaria? It’s just as far.

    So if so, WHO is setting this up and keeping it hot? Well I bet neither of the people live in the line of fire! And Balfour appears to be the one who set it up, so first stop for Columbo is London. Just one question, London, about your “Aircraft carrier” project of 1940… Why does it keep launching on an unrelated nation 500 miles away?

    I’m just a simple policeman, but have you heard of this Divide-and-conquer thing where if you keep a whole region unstable and at war, you can treat it as an extractive economic colony? Control the whole area?

    “Is Trump flattered enough to also be deceived?
    • Trump Shares Fawning Private Letter From NATO Chief (RT)

    They think he’s ruled by his emotions and can be flattered. Wtf. None of these guys HAVE emotions, they’re all psychos, you fools.

    I read this constantly and want to claw my eyes out: “Sir, do you think Trump feels AFRAID of Iran?” “Is he scared of being seen as not a tough guy?” Aiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeee!!! I dgaf about his Internal, Emotional state. Nor can I prove it. Nor do I believe they have them. I only care about what they DO. I’m a Conservative: your feelings never enter my mind.

    What is this? The Left deals with everything on Emotions. That’s what they do, so they think others are the same – already talked about studies on that, they can’t imagine how people unlike themselves would act. So they just think all other people walk around knee-jerk reacting according to their FEELINGS at that moment, and I assure you they don’t. “Why do Republicans hate immigrants?” Uhhhh, they don’t? Hate doesn’t enter into it at all? The president is married to one? “Why are men AFRAID to date women anymore?” (NYT yesterday) Uhhhh, they’re not? At all? Not afraid of gays, trans, not afraid of space lasers, never crossed their minds to HAVE emotions about these things? Why are you AFRAID of having lunch at Burger King when a meal is $20? Not afraid, you idiot: it’s just logically too expensive and stupid. We deal with reality using ADDITIONAL human abilities, which are OUTSIDE childish, animalistic emotions.

    So “Is Trump a 3-year-old we can control with a lolipop?” Uhhh, no? Because we’ve tried all that a 1,000 times and it never worked then either? But that would be “Logic” and “Reason” with “Memory”…and not emotion, so we don’t do that.

    He’s from New York: if someone’s nice to him, he’s suspicious. Like a normal human.

    “• NATO Chief Dodges Question About Why To Fear A ‘Russian Attack’ (RT)

    Suppose they do, though no one knows why? They still can’t invade bc there aren’t enough men. So the situation they’re describing already exists: Russia can nuke all Europe to cinders. So what are you adding or removing here? Nothing. Everything you’re saying is a lie.

    “• EU Becoming An Extension of NATO – Lavrov (RT)

    I’d have said the opposite, but like fascism, they have a merger. So if NATO is an EU army, why is the U.S. paying for it?

    “• Trump Seals His ‘President Badass’ Cred – And Makes US Foes Think Twice (Lowry)

    Gack. Gross.

    missy
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GuIcUfvXYAEI3Rl?format=jpg&name=small

    “• Is Berlin Planning A Strike On Moscow? (Amar)

    I’d say no, but at this point… Europe collapses completely anyway? They’re capable of it. They want to.

    “• UK Announces Joint Drone-Production With Ukraine (RT)

    Sooo, basically Ukr / UK are the same country now? Ukr is going to buy that factory…using money from UK. As UK is sending essentially their entire budget to Kiev.

    Yeah, nothing new here, said it 40 times. The only thing Russia is fighting is London. C’est ca.

    “• Israel’s Moral Collapse: Strategy Doesn’t Require Dead Children (Romanenko)

    This is to cause Israel to be the monster. First Hero, then Monster, then Hero, it’s all a STORY, a Narrative they drive human action with. But it’s Kayfabe, they draw straws to pick who is who, who gets which part.

    Then we get mad at “Da Jooos” and kill my dentist. ‘Cause that’s fair and logical. And NOT the people who gave them a trillion dollars in weapons up ‘til now? The US and UK? (Against all our wishes) Yeah, ALSO makes sense. If you’re emotional, you’ll jump on and forget all that.

    “• Amid Pressure Campaign From Trump, Fed Chair Powell Set To Testify (JTN)

    Kayfabe.

    “RFK continues what he was tasked with. Good.

    Says he’s going to make every American wear a health monitor and send all the data to Palintir. Uhhh, nope! I ain’t goin’!

    “The doctors hate it. It costs them 12 to 15 hours a week filling out forms.”

    Sounds dumb but, can you imagine the billions in savings from this one act? Multiply by 100,000, thanks to “Government” health care.

    “One year ago today, Julian Assange began his 48-hour journey to freedom,”

    Yeah, what’s he up to? Getting into trouble quietly I hope.

    #190907
    Red
    Participant

    @dora
    “It uses its Gotham software to flag fraud,”

    Interesting choice for a name “Gotham”. A city so corrupt that a billionaire (BILLIONAIRE!) has to become a vigilante to clean it up. Like a billionaire is going to clean their own shit.

    #190908
    tboc
    Participant

    Fermi’s Paradox

    #190909
    Topcat
    Participant

    • Empire Of Chaos Takes War On BRICS To Next Level (Pepe Escobar)

    Pepe takes it to it’s logical conclusion

    BRICS vs The West

    Israel, uranium, Ukraine…etc

    It’s all background noise compared to BRICS

    The end of Globalism, the end of Uni-polarity

    Unthinkable for the Pedo Lizard Overlords to comprehend.

    #190910
    tboc
    Participant

    Dr D you are so full of shit i can smell your breath across the internet

    I does not take many words to say the citizens of the United States, our whole lives, have gone along to get along and here we are.
    Anyone here, name one police action or military conflict you or your social circle objected to.
    This moment in time is what you have worked for and is the result of all of the sculduggery you have consented to since you reached majority and gained the vote. You and I paid to have the 400,000 Palestinians murdered and for every single atrocity in the Middle East since the Nakba.
    The majority of you still believe a massive steel framed structure suffered catastrophic steel beam failure from a kerosene and paper fire. Then, contrary to the laws of motion, dropped to the ground in a free fall.
    Contrary to all the statements about citizens being stupid we are not stupid we are willfully ignorant, greedy and corrupt. The cherry on top is the total lack of empathy and compassion. Ted Cruz writ large.
    Reach in, grap yourself by the ears and pull your heads out of your ass.

    I Got Mine – boy howdy!

    nothing to see here let us talk about Ai
    beggars mounted

    #190911
    those darned kids
    Participant

    “RFK continues what he was tasked with. Good.”

    absolutely incorrect.

    the covid emergency declaration is still in effect.

    the prep act protections are still valid.

    nothing has changed.

    please don’t be fooled.

    #190912
    those darned kids
    Participant

    “I can tell you… at least 13 mechanisms whereby messenger RNA vaccines can induce or promote cancer… We [are seeing] brand new cancers present at stage four… And the more [mRNA jabs] you have, the greater your risk. It will rise exponentially.”

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    US FDA approves Moderna’s next-generation COVID vaccine for adults 65 or older
    By Chandni Shah, Mariam E Sunny and Christy Santhosh
    May 31, 20252:16 AM GMT-4Updated May 31, 2025

    #190913
    those darned kids
    Participant

    great job, rfk.

    #190914
    Topcat
    Participant

    Luongo makes it all too complicated

    The simple version

    Old Europe, Eurotardlandia is like an gambling alcoholic drug addict chain smoking for five centuries.

    It’s at the end of it’s rope.

    Uniting the Eurasian land mass, without Europe, is the New Game Changer.

    Russian natural resources, Chinese Industrial base, united with LAND ROUTES, not sea lanes

    BRICS is it’s preliminary manifestation.

    That’s it

    #190915
    those darned kids
    Participant

    america sure is healthy now that fruit loops are fixed.

    whew!

    #190916
    those darned kids
    Participant

    personally, i like CRIBS better than BRICS.

    they should drop india, and then add andorra. then they would be CRABS.

    CRABS got bite!
    CRABS got claw!
    CRABS gonna make america,
    into yankee slaw.

    #190917
    Topcat
    Participant

    The Wisdom of Eurotardlandia

    #190918
    Topcat
    Participant

    #190919
    Topcat
    Participant

    #190920
    tboc
    Participant

    and i will not let the citizens of The United States forget we have as our legacy two pinnacles of human thought, The Declaration of Independence and The Constitution of the United States of America.

    which we are frittering away for a pocketful of mumbles
    shame on US

    #190921
    zerosum
    Participant

    Depopulation of middle east.

    Secrets and Lies

    violating a Washington-brokered ceasefire.
    accused Tehran
    Iran has denied attacking Israel

    Tehran will “will never rebuild its nuclear” capabilities – Trump
    ————–
    CNN reports that an initial US intelligence assessment says that the US didn’t destroy Iran’s nuclear facilities and set the program back only by a few months.
    White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told CNN in a statement: “This alleged assessment is flat-out wrong and was classified as ‘top secret’ but was still leaked to CNN by an anonymous, low-level loser in the intelligence community.
    The leaking of this alleged assessment is a clear attempt to demean President Trump, and discredit the brave fighter pilots who conducted a perfectly executed mission to obliterate Iran’s nuclear program.

    “way too early” to comment on whether Iran still retains some nuclear capabilities.
    —————

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/24/politics/intel-assessment-us-strikes-iran-nuclear-sites
    CNN’s Kaitlan Collins, Jim Sciutto, Kevin Liptak, Lauren Fox, Annie Grayer and DJ Judd contributed reporting.

    copilot contribution

    Kaitlan Collins
    – Ceasefire Surprise: While reporting on the Iran-Israel conflict, Collins was caught mid-broadcast when news broke that Iran had agreed to a ceasefire—just moments after she cast doubt on the possibility.
    – G7 Coverage: She covered President Trump’s shortened G7 summit trip, which was cut short due to rising tensions in the Middle East.
    – Air Force One Clash: Collins had a heated exchange with President Trump aboard Air Force One over his Iran strategy and nuclear strike rhetoric.
    Jim Sciutto
    – Iran Strike Details: Sciutto reported that the U.S. dropped a dozen GBU-57 “bunker-buster” bombs on Iran’s Fordow nuclear site, with additional strikes on Natanz and Isfahan.
    – National Security Briefings: He’s been covering fallout from the strikes, including intelligence assessments and diplomatic reactions.
    Kevin Liptak
    – Trump’s Decision-Making: Liptak detailed how Trump made the call to strike Iran while at his New Jersey golf club, emphasizing the internal debate within his administration.

    – G7 Fallout: He also reported on how the Iran conflict overshadowed the G7 summit and strained U.S. relations with allies.
    Lauren Fox
    – Trump’s Domestic Agenda: Fox has been tracking the Senate’s push to pass Trump’s sweeping domestic policy bill, including controversial Medicaid cuts and DOGE (Department of Government Efficiency) reforms.
    – Congressional Tensions: She’s reported on GOP infighting and the pressure Trump is placing on lawmakers to pass his agenda before the July 4 recess.
    Annie Grayer
    – Whistleblower Bombshell: Grayer broke a story about a Justice Department whistleblower who accused top officials—including a Trump judicial nominee—of misleading federal judges during a deportation case.
    – Capitol Hill Security: She’s also covered rising concerns among lawmakers following politically motivated violence and threats.
    DJ Judd
    – While DJ Judd hasn’t been bylined on a major solo scoop recently, he contributed to the CNN team’s reporting on the Iran strikes and White House response, including the intelligence assessment you shared earlier.

    Are you referring to the earlier saga involving Hunter Biden’s laptop? That story first surfaced in 2020 and has resurfaced periodically, especially during election cycles. CNN reporters like Kaitlan Collins and Jim Sciutto have covered aspects of it, particularly when it intersects with congressional investigations, DOJ activity, or political fallout.
    If you’re looking for a specific angle—like how it was handled by intelligence agencies, media coverage controversies, or its role in impeachment efforts—I can dig into that. Just let me know what thread you want to pull.
    ————

    • Western States Lied About Iran’s Nuclear Program – Russia’s UN Envoy (RT)

    The US and Israel have spread disinformation about Iran’s nuclear program as a pretext for attack, Russian Ambassador to the UN Vassily Nebenzia has said.
    Speaking at the UN Security Council on Tuesday, the diplomat condemned the strikes on Iranian nuclear sites as illegal under international law and said they had “created a real threat” of radioactive contamination.
    Nebenzia noted that the reports of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), which carries out inspections in Iran, serve as proof of “the absence of proliferation risks.”
    “We want to emphasize that nowhere in the IAEA reports is there any mention of Iran converting its nuclear stockpiles for undeclared or military purposes,” Nebenzia said.
    ———–

    #190922
    zerosum
    Participant

    Secrets and Lies and Illusions

    Russia may attack an Eastern European member state in the near future, using the rhetoric as a foundation for drastically raising defense spending. Moscow has vehemently denied harboring any hostile intent, and called such accusations “nonsense.” While speaking at a pre-summit press conference in The Hague, Rutte was asked to disclose what NATO’s assessment of a Russian attack within five years was based on.

    The secretary general, however, avoided giving any specific intelligence or threat assessment, citing only general fears and urging an increase in the bloc-wide defense spending target to 5% of GDP.
    Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov has also slammed NATO’s “unbridled militarization” and suggested that the bloc would need to create a “monster” to push through the proposed 5% GDP defense spending benchmark.
    “Let’s call things by their proper names,” he said. “This is an alliance created for confrontation.
    This is an alliance that brings aggression and confrontation.
    This is not an instrument of peace and stability.”
    ———–

    #190924
    those darned kids
    Participant

    a pocketful of mumbles,
    an empire quickly crumbles,
    its leadership stumbles, stumbles,
    its morality tumbles, tumbles,

    and

    all for a pocketful of mumbles.

    #190926
    zerosum
    Participant

    Peace efforts.

    Closing foreign U.S. military bases could be fiscally and strategically effective, but the impact depends on which bases are closed, how it’s done, and what replaces their functions.
    Potential Benefits
    – Cost Savings: The U.S. spends an estimated $55–80 billion annually maintaining around 750 bases in 80 countries. Closing even a portion could free up funds for domestic priorities or deficit reduction

    – Reduced Risk: Bases abroad can become targets for attacks, as seen in Iraq and Syria, and may provoke geopolitical tensions.
    – Diplomatic Gains: Some host nations view U.S. bases as unwelcome or colonial, and closures could improve relations and reduce anti-American sentiment.
    – Environmental Relief: Many bases have caused toxic pollution and environmental degradation, often without accountability.
    Challenges and Trade-Offs
    – Strategic Reach: Bases provide rapid deployment capabilities and support for allies. Closing too many could limit U.S. response time in crises.

    – Power Projection: Bases are part of the U.S.’s global deterrence posture, especially in regions like East Asia and the Middle East.
    – Local Economies: Some communities—both abroad and at home—depend economically on U.S. military presence.
    Middle Ground?
    Many experts suggest a targeted drawdown: closing outdated or redundant bases while maintaining those critical to national security. This could be part of a broader Base Realignment and Closure (BRAC) strategy focused on efficiency and modern threats.
    ———–

    #190927
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    Where the author doesn’t position herself: Sundance must think Rubio and Donald are fooling The Israelis, Zionists and Jews as the premise to what follows via The Conservative Treehouse House (house)² in order to make the following assertion without braying like a mule. (I hear barnyard animal allusions are in favor with God’s choice ppl again)

    Secretary Rubio Affirms “Significant Damage” to Iran Nuclear Capacity in Wake of U.S. Airstrikes

      assert the U.S. strikes on Iran’s nuclear sites at Fordo, Natanz and Isfahan were taken exclusively to remove the capacity of Iran to create a nuclear weapon, you likely missing a key point. However, if you recognize the strikes were not only about eliminating Iran’s nuclear capacity but also about taking Israel’s “Iran has nukes!” card off the table, then you begin to understand the after action message from the Trump administration.

      Essentially, by removing the Iran nuclear threat, the overall influence from Israel on President Trump’s foreign policy objective is also lessened. Within that dynamic you will see why President Trump, Secretary/NSA Rubio and the inner national security circle are so strongly emphasizing the “totally destroyed” 

    It’s a D-ism right? That is Performative Art as reality theater, right again?

    Nobody looks at Little Marco Rubio and takes That Boi seriously, not even Ritter, D, President Don Trump nor the other main weirdo, Cyrus JD Vance Hamel, competing with Marco to replace Don as GOP Numero Uno, Big Cheeze, TopDog

    #190928
    kultsommer
    Participant

    Trumps over the top use of high degree superlatives and praises for the people and actions around him makes them meaningless after so Not much many years of doing so.
    Again, what the “peace” and cease fire means for the Palestinians? Not much I suspect.

    #190929
    kultsommer
    Participant

    after so Not much many years of doing so

    Experimenting.

    #190931
    jb-hb
    Participant

    They’re all endlessly arguing about measurements in Metric over at Moon of Alabama today (In the Iran section), which tells me two things:

    1. Metric system? What a bunch of gay communists

    2. After a hiccup, ceasefire must be holding between Iran and Israel.

    #190932
    jb-hb
    Participant

    I does not take many words to say the citizens of the United States, our whole lives, have gone along to get along and here we are.

    Everyone knows now that collective guilt is fake, gay, cringe, and retarded. Not effective like it was a decade ago.

    It’s been dawning on even the majority of doom-o-sphere denizens that the American people are getting poisoned relentlessly as if they were vermin to be eradicated. Can I even count the ways? Fake food, fake medicine (which itself breaks down into like 20 different major poisonings), poisoned water, massive fentanyl importation, poisonous cookware, poisonous outgassing consumer goods and housing materials, promotion of horribly toxic non recyclable windmills, solar panels, and batteries.

    It should be dawning on you the people of the United States are not aggressors, they’re victims and survivors. They’ve been surviving their OWN bombardment for decades.

    And there’s the continual mental carpet-bombing of Americans. Again, can we even count the ways? Via “education,” entertainment, “news,” social media, “experts,” astroturf, and institutions (which breaks out into its own awful list) …and of course some of the poisoning plays into the mental carpet bombing – birth control pills, SSRI’s, fluoride. And then, if you don’t happen to leave any of these avenues open for carpet-bombing you, you’ll still be walking out into society and be surrounded by people who were.

    take the case of

    Popular Fox Rescuer Commits Suicide After Degenerate Redditors Launch Character Assassination Campaign
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/popular-fox-rescuer-commits-suicide-after-degenerate-redditors-launch-character

    https://youtu.be/xwtaekgVt9Q

    This youtube channel was adorable. RECOGNIZABLY the same type of people, organizing the same kind of way, using the same tactics, drove this nice woman to death. And we know these activities were being funded in the billions.

    And yet a lot of people are STILL totally naive. “oh, that would be CRAZY for them to bother with me” yes it would and did you notice they ARE crazy? Not their foot soldiers but the people behind them?

    Or “oh,I’m too small for them” no, actually you are not. Because if you are on the C team, THEY have their cadre of C-Team people for whom little old you are NOT too petty for, have nothing better to do, and are cheap. If they think there is ANY utility to this activity, it’s worth it just to keep your troops’ training sharp between more important events or to train up new people.

    Women seem to be more disposed to re-orient around society and consensus, such that if you blow away some cherished illusion or truth-bomb them, they will, with you, during that conversation, say like any sane person “Woah, that kinda blew my mind, I get it. This changes my outlook and is concerning” …..therefore I must do some soul searching. ….by checking with consensus and what society is doing. This is not insane nor contemptible. It would have, for millions of years, been a great human strategy.

    But you can see what it does. That corrective loop was used to kill this poor wonderful woman.

    We know it is not accidental or random, not just weirdos who randomly do stuff. We know about the billions in funding now, we can recognize the ideology and the tactics that go along with it – they were trying to – are in the middle of – “occupying the space” – meatsuiting the particular niche this woman occupied. They have a meatsuit “fox rescue” ready to slot into that place. So clearly, nothing is happening.

    But Americans have been carpetbombed like this for DECADES and even after realizing the USAID and other massive funding revelations, STILL not getting how that translates down to man-on-the-street level.

    Accusing Americans of collective guilt is – becoming more obvious by the day – just another arrow in the quiver of carpet bombing them.

    And some boomers who think you have to act like THEM from the late 60’s early 70’s or you are doing nothing buy into it, go along with it, quite easily.

    Under this continual rain, if someone makes a home, loves someone, raises a family, carries on culture or traditions, that’s resistance too even if they never groveled in the street performatively imitating leftist college kids from over half a century ago to satisfy bomers in their twilight years.

    #190933
    those darned kids
    Participant

    holding on to the last vestiges of imperial measuremental…

    73 roods is equal to 9/7ths a brookknock*

    *welsh. for the ulster brookknock, divide by zero.

    #190934
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    These were not errant missiles landing in crowded urban spaces. These were targeted strikes on homes, in residential areas, at night, when families were together. This isn’t the fog of war. It is its deliberate weaponization. The children didn’t make enrichment policy. The spouses didn’t oversee uranium labs. But they died because of proximity—because they were related to someone deemed dangerous. To call this “collateral damage” is cowardice. When decision-makers approve a strike on a home, knowing who sleeps inside, the outcome is no longer an accident. It is a choice. Some argue that in an asymmetrical war, deterrence must be personal. But this is not deterrence—it’s liquidation. It suggests that no civilian life adjacent to state infrastructure is worth preserving. It sends the message that not even scientists’ families will be spared, as if moral limits are luxuries we can no longer afford.

    The Zionist Israelis do not share the morality that is embraced by the bulk of humans on the planet. For most of us, our alma mater, our church, our country, our sports team, our city, our religion, our forest or ocean or beach is “#1”…but we recognize (in varying degrees) that this judgment is subjective, not absolute, and we understand that within the framework of shared humanity that other humans on the planet are “like us” and want their own “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.” We often disagree on the particulars, but our framework includes the space for valuing other humans in their humanity — we see ourselves in them. We could describe this as “The Golden Rule.” It is imperfect, but functions adequately much of the time.

    It is my spouse, Jewish and raised in a Zionist, true-believing family, that rejected his family’s beliefs on the cusp of adulthood, who apprised me of the insidiousness of these Zionist beliefs. They truly believe that they are “God’s chosen” and intrinsically bear more worth than the rest of the humans on the planet. This is distinct from the beliefs of my own family — they believe in the “one true religion,” therefore bearing greater responsibility to God, and incumbent to bring others into the fold — no, the Zionist Jews believe the rest of us (goyim) are lesser creatures. The Zionist Jews do not participate in the shared, over-arching morality in which the bulk of humanity co-creates. They continue to follow an ancient, tribal mentality. They reject the Enlightenment, and likely the moral frameworks of many other religious and philosophical traditions of which I lack sufficient familiarity to cite.

    This is why they behave as they do. I do not advocate genocide, but I do believe that this bestial community should not be propped up by outside forces, should not be given money and weapons. When they are granted these “benes” it only serves to confirm their own backwards beliefs — they believe: see! Our God and the rest of humanity acknowledge our superiority — look at how they shower gifts upon us!

    The behavior of the Zionist Jews is abusive and anti-social to the rest of humanity. Empowering such a person or culture is a mistake.

    #190936

    I guess I’ll wait and see if the US comes up with a big beautiful rearmament package for Israel.
    Until then (and I hope I’ll wait forever), I’ll simply hope that a ceasefire turns into an agreement.
    Sadly, Israel gets really aggressive whenever peace is on the horizon.

    Aside- spellchecker in this little comment box red-underlined the word “peace”.

    #190937
    Topcat
    Participant

    DC, the District of Columbia is not technically a ‘state’ but acts like one.

    Look at where all the gravy settled

    #190941
    citizenx
    Participant

    The last thing Trump wants…We will need Trump the peacemaker yet.

    Proof positive the vast majority of Americans and Westerners simply cannot pull their heads out of their own brainwashed assholes…take a big dose of fresh air and reality?
    trump doesn’t know what he wants…but you do based on his words or actions?

    Hope and Change was obama’s shtick 2008-16. Hoping trump will change is retarded. Peace President while he attacks Iran, funds Is and Ukraine.

    Dr D you are so full of shit i can smell your breath across the internet
    Reach in, grap yourself by the ears and pull your heads out of your ass.

    Some people are more infatuated with delusion and listening to themselves pretending to “know”.
    Hope and Change trump 2025
    hahahahaha

    Reality changes-
    delusion, ego and ignorance do not.

    Those with vested interests to make money, as Macgregor said yesterday, will keep the money wheels turning while destroying society and ignoring the obvious.

    trump bombs iran, murders soelemani, murders gaza, muders ukraine, oh but he’s a “peace president” any day now…

    #190942
    Topcat
    Participant

    Nima at Dialog Works

    Ray McGovern & Johhn Helmer: Russia’s Summer Blitz vs. Ukraine

    Trumptard comes off as a megalomaniacal carnival barker and basically says “the intelligence services don’t matter…”

    Tulsi is a hood ornament

    The Spirit of Ecstasy?

    Something to look at but not to take too seriously

    #190943
    jb-hb
    Participant

    I was super pissed at the whole Iran debacle AS PRESENTED, certainly THAT was total bullshit and betrayal of MAGA.

    But with the ineffectual activity on both sides – between US and Iran, it comes off as epic trolling by Trump. AGAIN. Like Syria.

    Incidentally, also like the H1B Christmas Twitter War, in which the MAGA admin said how wonderful unlimited H1B visas were and then got utterly destroyed on about 1000 conceivable bases. The MAGA base absolutely devastated the MAGA “leadership.” Massive use of H1B denigrated and being made the subject of focused attention was the ultimate result.

    Idunno how much of Trump Epic Trolling is purposeful or a double-triple-quadruple fake or not. Results SEEM to occur and they SEEM to be more or less ok even if the optics look seriously fucked up.

    Like, Trump said “Fine Israel, if you REEEEEALY think you can do it go ahead and do it show me”

    And then the rest was theatre, letting them FAFO, pre-discussed through backchannels with Iran????

    OR total flailing around that results in an acceptable-ish landing in the sense of didn’t escalate to WW3? The non-immediate term effects are yet to be fully observed and discussed.

    Idunno, I KINDA get the feeling he was doing a thing, kinda don’t. Gaza does not appear to be better off nor its situation part of a ceasefire agreement, which was what I had thought we might have been working towards. I’ve gone from pissed to laughing to scratching my head over all this. WTF happened?

    #190944
    zerosum
    Participant

    practical advice or word salad.

    Preparing for the Future: A Guide for Pre-Teens Looking Ahead to 2035 and 2050

    The world is changing—fast. Today’s pre-teens will enter adulthood in a time shaped by artificial intelligence, climate shifts, and evolving ways of working and living. This guide offers practical advice to help young people build skills and mindsets for success and stability by the years 2035 and 2050.

    1. Understanding the Future of Work
    By 2035, many traditional jobs will be changed or replaced by automation. According to a McKinsey Global Institute report, up to 30% of current work activities could be automated by the mid-2030s (McKinsey & Company, 2017). Roles that combine creativity, communication, and problem-solving will grow in demand.
    Advice:
    – Develop digital literacy early—basic coding, online safety, and app fluency will be as important as reading.
    – Practice adaptability and curiosity. These traits will help you learn new skills as the world evolves.

    2. Managing Money and Living Income
    The cost of living is projected to keep rising. Experts estimate that real wages may not keep pace with housing, healthcare, and education without major policy reforms (OECD, 2022). Future generations may rely on multiple income streams and collaborative living arrangements.
    Advice:
    – Learn the difference between needs and wants.
    – Try budgeting with an allowance or tracking spending.
    – Be open to non-traditional paths to stability—sharing resources, starting small businesses, or working remotely.

    3. Building Emotional and Social Intelligence
    Emotional intelligence—the ability to manage feelings, empathize, and collaborate—will be crucial as technology becomes more impersonal.
    Advice:
    – Practice self-reflection and talking about your emotions.
    – Try resolving small conflicts peacefully.
    – Learn to listen as well as speak—relationships will be your strongest support system.

    4. Community and Sustainability
    By 2050, climate concerns and global challenges will require collective action. Pre-teens today will be the decision-makers in a world that demands cooperation and sustainability.
    Advice:
    – Explore community volunteering or activism, even in small ways.
    – Learn about recycling, conservation, and how to reduce your impact on the planet.
    – Join or form teams that care about the future—your voice matters.

    5. Lifelong Learning
    Education won’t stop after high school or university. The World Economic Forum predicts most people will need to reskill every 5–10 years (WEF, 2020).
    Advice:
    – Stay curious—try new hobbies or learn something just for fun.
    – Don’t fear mistakes—they’re part of how we grow.
    – Ask for help when you need it. No one gets through the future alone.

    References:
    – McKinsey Global Institute (2017). Jobs lost, jobs gained: Workforce transitions in a time of automation.
    – OECD (2022). Employment Outlook 2022.
    – World Economic Forum (2020). The Future of Jobs Report.

    #190945
    jb-hb
    Participant

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    #190946
    aspnaz
    Participant

    jb-hb said

    Everyone knows now that collective guilt is fake, gay, cringe, and retarded. Not effective like it was a decade ago.

    It’s been dawning on even the majority of doom-o-sphere denizens that the American people are getting poisoned relentlessly as if they were vermin to be eradicated. Can I even count the ways?

    Bit of a sweeping statement that basically contradicts itself. Collective guilt is totally real, but for those who cannot accept their own responsibilities in the world, it is fake and gay, like being a parent is fake and gay.

    American citizens are fucked because they decided to be lazy fucks and believe and trust their government and their PR. They believe they have the best everything in the world, when in reality they are ridiculously over-regulated, ridiculously underserved by basic infrastructure, ridiculously underserved by corrupt lobbying legislation etc etc etc.

    But, your argument is that it is not their fault, they didn’t vote for it, they didn’t want it. Yeah, well adults in the room know that lots of things in this world are not asked for, but unless you manage your own existence you are going to be used and abused. Your “Can I even count the ways?” emphasises the fact that American citizens are accepting abuse which has now got to such a ridiculous extent that even the infantile American citizen is begining to notice. In reality it is your fault; in your post-modern imagined existence … who cares.

    #190947
    aspnaz
    Participant

    jb-hb said

    It should be dawning on you the people of the United States are not aggressors, they’re victims and survivors. They’ve been surviving their OWN bombardment for decades.

    And there’s the continual mental carpet-bombing of Americans. Again, can we even count the ways? Via “education,” entertainment, “news,” social media, “experts,” astroturf, and institutions (which breaks out into its own awful list) …and of course some of the poisoning plays into the mental carpet bombing – birth control pills, SSRI’s, fluoride. And then, if you don’t happen to leave any of these avenues open for carpet-bombing you, you’ll still be walking out into society and be surrounded by people who were.

    How pathetic. Your “we are the victims” mantra is straight out of the Jewish playbook. It takes two to tango, if it were not for your playing along, this shit would not have happened; if it was not for members of your society joining government and implementing this shit, then it would not have happened. Who do you think is doing this shit; you are, your society is doing it to yourselves. Trump is one of you, he was made by American society, same for congress, but you think it is not your fault?

    #190948
    aspnaz
    Participant

    phoenixvoice said

    It is my spouse, Jewish and raised in a Zionist, true-believing family, that rejected his family’s beliefs on the cusp of adulthood, who apprised me of the insidiousness of these Zionist beliefs. They truly believe that they are “God’s chosen” and intrinsically bear more worth than the rest of the humans on the planet.

    Are these beliefs specific to Zionism, or part of Judaism?

    #190949
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “Anyone here, name one police action or military conflict you or your social circle objected to.”

    ALL OF THEM. Hasn’t been one in my lifetime. Would you like a notarized list of jobs and friends I’ve lost doing it?

    “by removing the Iran nuclear threat, the overall influence from Israel on President Trump’s foreign policy objective is also lessened. Within that dynamic you will see why President Trump, Secretary/NSA Rubio and the inner national security circle are so strongly emphasizing the “totally destroyed”

    So you agree with me now. And again, Mossad knows it. MI6 knows it. But the Kunstlers of the world don’t know it and the PsyOps won’t work (as well) now. It will take them a year to rebuild the lies.

    Europe is being cut off by the BRIICS, but actually worldwide, as Global South and the U.S. are cutting them too? Bingo. And that is a Luongo point when he’s not being complicated.
    Iran is “The Purpose of a System is what it Does” and what did the war and bombing Iran DO? I’ve already described it. In painful detail for two days now. Israel is savaged, Iran is untouched. Any actual U.S. war is put on hold, possibly a year. Markets agree with me.

    Comments on guilt are lose-lose. If you say you’re responsible, you lose, if you say you’re a victim, you lose. And Aspnaz will attack you either way, as demonstrated. The IDF does that.

    So, the situation is Someone’s been sneaking into my house and poisoning us, but it’s our fault because “We should have known better”? F—k off. Generally, non-insane people think when someone is murdered, it’s the murderer what dun it. But that’s just me.

    The more important thing is THEY JUST MAKE S—T UP, about guilt, and steal things. Kill whole nations. Are there any men left alive today in Germany that fought in the war? So WTF would any “German” have collective guilt about ANYTHING?? F—k Off. Make Me, you retards. That’s why Americans can’t be controlled with this s—t and they’ve had to give us the cattle prod up the anus for the last 40 years. And we’re still fighting them. As JB says on EVERY front, they had to make up whole new ones and we still won’t crack.

    The point for Psychopaths – or Narcissistic disorder here – is to CONTROL you because YOU have feelings and they don’t. So they make one the helpwess wee wittle wictim, and the other the Big Bad Monster. They don’t care which is which, doesn’t matter a bit. Then as things play out naturally, according to their lies, the Monster is forced and engineered into normal human guilt and the Victim becomes the monster. Duh. WWII => Gaza 2025. How many times?

    No collective guilt. That’s a UN war crime. As they do here with f-ing slavery where JEFFERSON put a stop to it: no imported slaves. France has slavery TODAY, in Libya, where’s THEIR F-ing guilt they can f—k right off. So hundreds of years later they want collective guilt for Jamaican immigrants, 1950, paid by Italian immigrants, 1930. …There ain’t nobody left from the original action, fools. Why? Collective guilt.

    People complain about “Guilt and the Catholic church as a method of control” have you looked around? They’re way Waaaaay in the rear view mirror on that stuff. Guilt = totally fabricated, totally kayfabe, total control for total annihilation.

    Aspnaz, as part of his Mossad training, is using it on us right now. Oh “The U.S.” did this! O Rlly? China didn’t? Ooooooooooooooooooooonly the U.S.? What happened in Gaza with the bombing? Oh yeah! NOT. ONE. MUSLIM. STATE. HELPED. Only Yemen, take that back. But it’s us, really. All 20 nations there, plus China and Indonesia have no guilt at all.

    Multiply by 1,000 as ALL nations do this, and ALL are trying to hook in, get an ad campaign going, to get people to accept collective guilt for something they had nothing at all to do with. Hey Jack: if I don’t pay my taxes, will they shoot me like a Gazan? Da fuq right they will! Aaaaaand so me n’ the Gazan are different how exactly? I’m in a different tactical position, so I have a different strategy to not get shot, that’s all, same as them.

    But it’s MY fault, got it. Well, we’ll take your advice: I’ll get shot, be dead, and then the Resistance will totally win, right? Good thinking! Why didn’t Patton do this? Getting shot is so easy!

    No collective guilt. The POINT of the bombings, the Iran, the Americans, the Iraq war, is: WE ARE THE DESIGNATED VILLAINS, the scriptwriter said so. So then when we lose, to China, to Europe, under Hillary 2016, we feelz just SO, SO bad n’ pay allllll those reparations for being a naughty, naughty country.

    …That we never had any control over by voting, all you SAME schmart guys say.

    Wait: I’m guilty for something I had no control over? Because me daddy were born here? Yup. That’s $1000 please!

    I made up this story right here, had CNN/Netflix run it, it’s right on Page 25 so it must be true!

    You’d think I was making this up but ask any 25 year old German.

    And the lyrics referred to are
    “I am just a poor boy.
    Though my story’s seldom told,
    I have squandered my resistance
    For a pocketful of mumbles,
    Such are promises
    All lies and jest
    Still, a man hears what he wants to hear
    And disregards the rest.”

    #190950
    charles
    Participant

    Some people are mad we are not bad bob. pass.

    #190951
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    Death to China already goddammit!!
    I won’t be fooled again!

    #190952
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Remember Superior orders … https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_orders

    Superior orders, also known as just following orders or the Nuremberg defense, is a plea in a court of law that a person, whether civilian, military or police, should not be considered guilty of committing crimes ordered by a superior officer or official.[1][2] It is regarded as a complement to command responsibility.[3]

    The American government judgement of nazis was that superior orders are not a valid excuse. Skip to today and American citizens, who know their taxes are going toward the genocide of Palestinians, continue to pay their taxes, they continue to follow orders, they continue to fund genocide.

    Of course, you do not know which Gazan child was murdered using your tax payment, that is not possible to determine, but we can assume the collective guilt of all tax American payers in the genocide of Palestinians.

    Oh, oh, oh but they would take away my sofa and mobile if I didn’t pay my taxes; yes, and they shot disobedient nazi soldiers if they didn’t obey orders. You chose to be guilty in return for an easy life.

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