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    Unknown Butler’s dredge-boat, sunk by Confederate shell, James River, VA 1864   • Assange Testifies In Trial Of Company That Spied On Him Inside
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle December 21 2019]

    #52263

    Replying to a late comment to Only The Damage To America Is Real:

    The transcript of the call concurrent with Trump’s directive to withhold funds establishes beyond a reasonable doubt that the crime of bribery was committed by the president.

    Sorry, Kevin, but no, it doesn’t. It’s still merely opinion and interpretation. And I don’t appreciate you painting me as either wilfully ignoring “clear implications” or parroting propaganda.

    ..his subsequent documented attempts to stymie the investigation resulted in the second charge of obstruction.

    Yes, but that is not valid. The Executive branch has the right to ask the Judiciary branch to rule on what the Legislative branch throws at it. Without this right, the Legislative branch would be free to rule the country, and the president would merely be its servant.

    The Dems attempt to be both Legislative AND Executive, but that’s not how the republic was set up, and Trump was elected president, not a Democrat. Pelosi should have waited until the cases brought by Trump before the Supreme Court are ruled on.

    As for your “nice little shop you have here..” example, no gangsta could ever be convicted for saying that, you would need a whole lot of context, in which that line could well be a mere footnote. You need facts. If the shop is burned down the next day, you can try and link it to the line, but even then you would need additional evidence.

    And this whole idea of: if you don’t agree with our conjecture, you are a parrot, is getting tiresome.

    #52264
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “This trajectory collides with U.S. President Trump’s trade war.”

    That trade war shore is terrible. It’s driven the Dow from 20 to 28,000 and almost managed to reverse the endless, slagging decline (maybe 2% pa?) since 2000. …Just saying it’s amazing they can report a “damaging trade war” and a market going straight up in the same breath, and no one looks surprised. So their argument is without the trade war we’d be a 50,000? C’mon. Maybe they could report a single real number for once on any side and we could all start to think sensibly again. But without Logos, the hate of Logos, a thing and it’s opposite can always be the same.

    “the more you borrow, the more investors can push back and … lose control”

    As planned, because it worked every other time in history. It’s human nature. This was started by Kissinger and Nixon, waterboys for their string-pullers, but set into motion with Poppa Bush’s trip to China, then put into place by Clinton to totally destroy and erase the United States expunge the Constitution, (hey, just as we see today?) and after setting fire to it and plowing the ashes over the bodies of the deplorables, buy it up at 1c on the dollar. China’s culture is different though, and they know exactly what the West’s string-pullers are up to. Remember Congress demanding they change currency peg and destroy themselves? That’s weird: when Congress said that under Obama, it was healthy, under Trump it’s the end of the world. Anyway, Europe is running the long plan, and China is trying to stop them, the Great Game; but the reason free money is done every time with every nation is because it DOES work so well, and IS poisonous and deceiving. And it IS harming China pretty darn good right now, but I don’t know if they’ll lose control or where they’re going. Probably it will be messy and have a lot of moving parts. Taiwan will and won’t integrate. Hong Kong will and won’t be put down. Some provinces will be hammered and others will get autonomy. Can’t think about it in the Western ways that don’t apply.

    How Murder, Kidnappings And Miscalculation Set Off Hong Kong’s Revolt (R.)

    Good example of why we have sovereignty, and why half-sovereignty must lead to yummy, wonderful wars that kill thousands of suckers and allow disaster capitalism to make me rich and import organs and sex slaves. What’s not to like? I mean unless you not rich and not a psychopath, then we’re all the victims of this extraction and violence by the millions.

    Now Fake Facebook Accounts Are Using Fake Faces (CNN)

    They’re up to something else, as you could easily use existing or stock photos. Anyway, how much influence does a dying platform for grandpas with 4/5 fake or dead accounts have anymore? Let’s look at Twitter, which is going gangbusters: yes they’re influential, but they’ve managed to bamboozle only themselves. “We’ve won the argument” Corbyn says. Yes: on Twitter. Less than 1% of the voting people are there and they’ve managed to transcend echo chamber and graduate into an actual cult. And a violent one at that. So they’re influencing all right: blowing smoke up the rears of the already true believers and driving them insane while the rest of the 99% look on to these lunatics in horror and astonishment. Nice going. Science! Never with unexpected side affects. You know, as described by Mary Shelley in 1818 and with the smartest people in the room smacking themselves in the forehead with the same rake every day since then? But that’s how you KNOW you’re smart, when you’re just like the other smart set, in the super-duper smarty-people echo chamber.

    Any tosser from Blackpool will eat them alive. But they’re not done yet! They can go still further: they’re trying to say that J.K. Rowling hates diversity and is the life-long enemy of England. That’s not the lesson I got from her books, but we’re all different.

    If the funds arrived exactly on time — and still much more! including Obama-denied war materials — and the victim also vehemently denies the crime or even being aware of it, while they would be a hero in the catbird’s seat and would totally win and get endless (partisan) funding if they just agreed with Pelosi, where are you going with the extortion argument? Ukrainians are untermench, non-humans, and their testimony doesn’t count? Pretty sure that’s what you’re saying. Only Americans count. Is that bald, blinding racism since we’re not a race? No matter, it’s the same impulse. When poor or brown people worldwide speak aren’t we supposed to believe them and not rich, white insiders from a violent, illegal government run by orange Hilter? That’s what I hear every day, yet somehow doesn’t apply if it’s Comey’s FBI and Brennan’s CIA but DOES apply if it’s I dunno, Bill Barr and Jeff Sessions. I’m getting really confused about which government to believe, and which poor, downtrodden immigrant foreigners to dismiss and disbelieve.

    Write it out as if you’re a skeptic, Columbo, re-enacting the crime, and not a true believer in the upper choir. Cheeto may not be great, but you’re being played for a sucker to make Comey and Pelosi rich and enable them to kill millions of brown people world wide…as well as all the white people, including Julian Assange. Don’t believe the hype. Reclaim your heritage and think for yourself.

    #52265
    zerosum
    Participant

    In other news
    Here is an embarrassing news.

    Solution: Hint … Its called …. a prisoner exchange.

    Canada’s foreign affairs minister won’t say how U.S. responded to request on China
    Prime Minister Justin Trudeau told a French-language TV network Thursday he had asked the United States not to sign any final trade agreement with China until the Canadians have been released.
    Relations have gone from bad to worse over the past year, starting with the detention of Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou in Vancouver following an extradition request from the U.S. government.

    China retaliated by arresting two Canadians on trumped-up espionage charges, holding them in appalling conditions and escalating its rhetoric against Canada. Plus blocking imports of Canadian meat and canola.

    #52266
    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    Impeachment is not a legal proceeding nor does it need to follow such rules because it does not threaten life, liberty, or property, merely the removal from office. The courts have no role in the “legislation.”

    “The Supreme Court has also explained that Congress has not only the power, but the duty, to investigate so it can inform the public of the operations of government: It is the proper duty of a representative body to look diligently into every affair of government and to talk much about what it sees. It is meant to be the eyes and the voice, and to embody the wisdom and will of its constituents. Unless Congress have and use every means of acquainting itself with the acts and the disposition of the administrative agents of the government, the country must be helpless to learn how it is being served; and unless Congress both scrutinize these things and sift them by every form of discussion, the country must remain in embarrassing, crippling ignorance of the very affairs which it is most important that it should understand and direct. The informing function of Congress should be preferred even to its legislative function.”

    “When the Supreme Court has considered similar issues, it held that the power to secure “needed information … has long been treated as an attribute of the power to legislate…”

    “The Supreme Court also held, “There can be no doubt as to the power of Congress, by itself or through its committees, to investigate matters and conditions relating to contemplated legislation.”

    Impeachment is legislation. One is impeached upon passage of such legislation. The House sends its Managers to the Senate to present their legislation, similar to any other in the bicameral process. The House has sole power of Impeachment. If a super majority in the Senate agrees to the articles of impeachment, the officer is removed from office. To include the President.

    #52267

    PlanetaryCitizen

    No idea where those texts come from, but they sound credible. There’s just one thing: they’re all about the powers of Congress, and there’s nothing about the powers of the president. One could get the idea from these texts that the president works for Congress. But s/he doesn’t, s/he works for the people, who have elected her/him.

    #52268
    WES
    Participant

    Zerosum:. Regarding Trudope, he is 100% bought and paid for by China. Check his Family Trust for the payments./s

    How do I know this? Simple during the early US/Cdn trade discussions President Trump wanted to increase the North American (US/Cdn/Mexican) content in automobiles.

    Guess what Trudope wanted to do? He wanted to greatly reduce the North American content of automobiles so more Chinese made parts could be used!

    That is why President Trump simply bypassed Canada and negotiated with Mexico instead! After an agreement was reached, Mexico informed Trudope that they were about to sign the new agreement, in less than 3 days, with the US but without Canada being a party to it.

    In a panic, Trudope was forced to sign the agreement in less than 48 hours. The agreed terms were those agreed to by the US and Mexico! Canada had virtually no input of the terms of the trade agreement!

    What kind of idiot negotiates like this! Only someone controlled by China!

    Trudope doesn’t give a dam about the 2 Canadian detained in China!

    But this certainly reveals China’s true character.

    #52269
    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    Raul, the constitution lays out the powers of congress pretty clearly, the powers of the President rather less so. In that sense the Congress is more limited in its power. Congress has the powers of the purse, advise and consent to presidential cabinet members – judges, creation of legislation, impeachment, etc. The President may be Comander-in-Chief but he does not have the power to declare war, except in extremely limited circumstances (per the constitution). Balance of power being the underlying constrictions on said constitutional powers. The constitution gives express power to impeach to the House. The congress is also elected by the people so frankly I see it as a bit of canard to imply that the President has some special dispensation as a result. The fact that it takes a super majority in the Senate to remove him from office is also a balance of power on the power of impeachment. Tripartite government is the law of the land. You needn’t worry, he’s not going to be removed because the Republicans are more concerned on how it will reflect on their re-election chances and their ability to control the reins of power than they are in the truth.

    Are the charges against Trump justified? The House gets to decide don’t they! Trump could have defended himself or allowed those requested to testify and clear his name, but chose not to. And now we are where we are, aren’t we!

    #52270
    zerosum
    Participant

    @ WES
    “he is 100% bought and paid for by China.”
    Please …. Supply link to documentation for your statement.

    #52271
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    OMG! What a bunch of happy bullshit;
    https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/sorry-dems-us-employees-are-worlds-happiest
    I can’t believe Tyler even posted that festering pile of s*&t…
    Oh, and unemployment is 3.5% or less…
    I’ll just hop on my unicorn and ride off into the afterglow…

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