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    Georgia O’Keeffe New York night 1929   • We Cannot Afford to Censor Dissenting Voices During a Pandemic (Kulldorff) • Boris Johnson Ditches Plans
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle April 4 2021]

    #72411

    cloudhidden

    From yesterday’s thread: contact them here: [email protected].

    Can’t find them at Indiamart now, which is odd, because that is where I initially found them 3 months ago.

    #72412
    Germ
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    Vaccine passports have arrived in the UK:
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/03/boris-johnson-to-give-go-ahead-for-trials-of-covid-passports

    It’s a digital app:
    https://commonpass.org/

    Headed by somebody with deep roots to the CCP:
    https://thecommonsproject.org/leadership

    Look at the Executive Chair of the Commons Project:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Zhu_Scott

    In effect, this is where the west is heading, and soon.
    So very sad. What a tragedy,

    #72413
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    Self tests are just another money spinner for pharmaceutical companies.

    #72414

    Self tests are just another money spinner for pharmaceutical companies.

    Everything about this whole thing is. But it’s important that people get the responsibility for their own lives back.

    #72415
    scraplet
    Participant

    Hey Germ, and any other UK-based Ivermectin importers: has anyone had problems getting delivery from abroad? I’ve not ordered, because I assumed that prescription-only medicine from another country would not easily make its way through customs! However, judging by comments over the last few days, perhaps that is not the case. Is it sent stealth, without a proper customs declaration or something?

    #72416
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Are we posting 95 theses today?

    Ah what can do to get a CDC director or Congresswoman to cry today?

    Turn over all the tables in the temple then advise people to invest heavily in assault weapons. Like my saviour, the Prince of Peace on this day, many years ago.

    Iowa did. They just undid all the state rules on gun control, but at least didn’t go so far as to defy the Federal yet. So at least one politician is literate and knows the law. Don’t like it? There’s a legal process for that: follow it. It’s called an “Amendment,” you might have heard. Failing that, Every. Single. Thing. they do is illegal.

    Why do I bring this up? One, shows the tide, although slow, continues to shift regardless of the protestations of King Canute. Two, it is EXACTLY the same as all the totally illegal, unconstitutional, classist, violent human rights abuses worldwide. You ALSO had the right to assemble and have a pint. You ALSO got to gripe about it over that pint. You ALSO had the right to church on Easter Sunday. I won’t repeat what you have the right to do to them if they won’t let you.

    They have STOLEN all those things from you, violently, with a gun, and are now selling your own freedom back to you. You dummies. Like a thousand times before when you were “tolerant.” Don’t let it happen. Be violently intolerant of their oppression and intolerance. They sure the heck are intolerant of you. “By any means necessary.” Meaning Lie. Cheat. Steal. Burn. Murder. Perjure. Railroad. The reason for power is power. You can pass a law to remove your rights – thankfully, they couldn’t be arsed to do even that – but it will take more than a vote to get your freedoms back. A lot more.

    What do you think they’re going to do to that church now? Like any Staasi, now a lifelong campaign of organized, illegal harassment. Why? “I am the law”. “By any means necessary.” “Mommy is only here to help.” “The joy of power is POWER.”

    Did they care about the law? Not a whit. Before, during, or after. What they CARED about was that they were not getting their POWER over the pastor, because he wouldn’t cower and give it to them. Therefore, there was no joy to be had that day. No free tears to lick off the congregant’s eyes. They didn’t come because of the law. They didn’t leave because of the law, or they wouldn’t have been milling about like idiots. But THEY weren’t able to drink POWER, as the pastor took it instead. So they left, to press power on someone else.

    But they’ll be back. That nation is filled with people who live only to express power, and not feel helpless and small for just a little while. Don’t be one of them. Leave me alone.

    “Persistence of Covid-19 Antibodies Varies Widely from Person to Person (F.)”

    There could hardly be a clearer expression of “these guys don’t know what they’re talking about.” I’m not picking on them, except that they CLAIM to know ALL about disease, immunity, response, and can tell with a few seconds whether something is transmissible before 9:59pm, or after 10:01.

    You don’t know. And this clearly tells me you don’t actually know how the body make immunity or retains it. At all. Sure, you’ve got some theories that are mostly true in a limited range. But I can have an accurate map of Calais, but it doesn’t mean I know a thing about Marseilles. Or Peking. You get the point.

    How much more when this is the medicine that discovered cholesterol wasn’t the cause of heart disease in the 50s and just kept pushing it, with deadly statin drugs, for 60 years? Billions were made. Like uncaring for Type II, millions died as well, WAAAAAY more than Covid. And I’m supposed to listen to these people? As yesterday, you could fill encyclopedias with these stories and the lives they ruined.

    Immunity? They don’t have the fainest idea why the body heals itself, or what the template is it follows to make it do so.

    Here’s a good example: there’s a fever – measles, I think – that wipes your immune system. That is, once you survive it, you discover you RE-infect with the colds and fevers you were immune to just a few weeks ago. Wow. But, but, I thought you were immune — yeah, like useless economists, “all things being equal”. That is, IF nothing else happens, IF you’re the middle of the bell curve, IF you don’t have some strange reaction, IF, IF IF. Doctors spend all night giving medication that SHOULD B52 knock someone out, SHOULD have an effect, only to find for no discernible reason it doesn’t on this person in this case. Bap Nada. It’s impossible. Happening in every ward in every hospital on every day of every year. Here’s another one: German studies showed that getting measles made you IMMUNE to a handful of further diseases, including some forms of cancer, if I remember correctly. So in that sense, it’s a BENEFIT, you should TRY to get it, as it statistically makes you and your immune system stronger. Hey, is that what humans did for 1,000 years?

    Any discussions of this? Breeding ever-weaker, more fragile, chronically ill people? Nope. Do what you’re told. Submit or die. I don’t care what medical studies say you may live longer and better by taking a front side risk of measles, I’m going to decide that FOR you. Mommy dearest knows best. You can live that long, long life in prison for avoiding school vaccinations, because I Love You. It’s because I care I have to beat you. Joy and Tolerance. …Since, as has long been true, no one is at the slightest risk, everybody else is immune to measles, having chosen to take the vaccine. That doesn’t work. As the 2016 mumps outbreak in Harvard showed. And as the open border shows they DEFINITELY, MEDICALLY DO NOT CARE about. Not one bit. The purpose of power is power. Power over you. Do what you’re told.

    Even if it’s wrong, wrong, wrong, totally illegal, and opposed by half the medical community.

    ‘Cause it ain’t about medicine, honey – and you’re so cute when you cry – it’s about POWER. They drink your lovely tears and crying only excites them. Shout them out of the room and cut off their supply.

    Morgan shilled for Bitcoin? Ruh-roh. Sounds like they’re planning a raid.

    I thought they’d go $100k (OBVIOUSLY can’t pass $100k on the first try), then rig it back to $49k. But it’s not rising, so they might try it from here instead.

    including one photographed wearing a hula hoop, and nothing else.”

    That sounds great, where do I sign up? Wait, this is a crime? What are the Left now repressive, sactimonous church ladies or what? These are the people defending YouTube and Facebook being top sources for child porn on the internet. It’s only natural. You can’t judge me. They sounds like the full-hour Nightline smear of smear of Kim.Com back in the day, where his real crime was to own power yachts and enjoy his money and his life too much by schmoozing up bikini babes. For dried up loveless scolds, lemon-sucking ladies of the church of WOK, maybe they don’t understand Americans very well. Clearly they don’t because they’re losing. Losing Losers and the losses they lose. Ask the NBA how losing feels, because the MLB is right behind them

    Anyway, Gaetz? Guilty? Sure, why not? But all I see at this point is a lot of very-weird allegations on both sides and no courtrooms. Since the FBI and DoJ have been serial liars for most of my life at this point, blackmail everybody, make up lab results, and imprison the innocent so often and so egregiously they pay multi-millions every other year, (HereLetMeGoogle”NewYorkTimes”ForYou.com) I’ll reserve judgment until there’s some of the thing called “evidence.” The whack outlines, like fabricating an Iranian release story as plausible cause to “donate” $25M — man that sure sounds like a con and a shakedown to me. Classic like: “I get my brains from HBO, TV-reality” knowing Americans, having not encountered reality or anything but lies since birth, will just eat it up and believe it. The real world isn’t nearly as exciting and lies neglected in the gutter.

    #72417
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Everything about this whole thing is. But it’s important that people get the responsibility for their own lives back.

    Well, you’re doing a damn fine job of showing them how…

    #72419
    absolute galore
    Participant

    The fear-mongering continues. From today’s NYT:

    Virus Variants Threaten to Draw Out the Pandemic, Scientists Say

    Declining infection rates overall are masking a rise in more contagious forms of the virus, including some mutations that are more deadly.

    “The best way to think about B.1.1.7 and other variants is to treat them as separate epidemics,” said Sebastian Funk, a professor of infectious disease dynamics at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. “We’re really kind of obscuring the view by adding them all up to give an overall number of cases.”

    The authors claim this is worrisome because it makes the vaccines less effective, yet in another paragraph they claim it’s not really a problem. Fauci even says that a booster with the current vaccines is fine, rather than trying to “play whack-a-mole” with each new variant.

    In terms of more deadly, they don’t really go into that, other than a link to another NYT article claiming the UK variant is 67% more deadly.

    And of course at the end of the article there is a link to the obligatory young person who succumbed to “Covid 19 complications” –this time a basketball “super fan” (whatever that is), age 23.

    #72420
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    • Policymakers Use Panic To Shift Blame For Covid-19 Onto Us, The People

    An easy out for policymakers: blame failures on the people who don’t follow the policy. There will always be some non-compliers who can be scapegoated. Don’t question the policy.

    Coming up: if the Covid vaccine policies don’t work, blame the people who didn’t get vaccinated.

    #72422
    Germ
    Participant

    No problem with customs in UK.
    IVM was delivered directly to my house.
    Appropriate customs form was on outside of package.

    Very good service from Kachhela.

    #72423
    zerosum
    Participant

    Why are the enablers clamoring, shouting, and strutting, peacocking, parading, flouncing, flaunting to get the attention of the rifraf, irrelevant, people that have no power and no wealth?

    Those that have the power and the wealth have the enablers to make the laws, rules, and regulations that make the social order as they decree, announce, direct, instruct, proclaim, rule.

    Since when have those with power and wealth obeyed Moses and the 10 commandments?

    There is no proof of wrong doing – Biden
    “It could be …..” – Hunter

    #72430
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Covid passports in UK

    It’s the frog in the boiling water.

    Vaccine passports for ALL pubs and restaurants is making the water too hot, too quickly, hunh?
    Okay! No problem!
    We’ll just roll them out for larger venues.
    (That way we can work out the kinks, make it more convenient, get the masses to accept this as “normal.” Oh, and don’t worry — we won’t let the passports expire in two years. Or, we only will if there is enormous public pressure. But that public pressure is unlikely to materialize. And it doesn’t matter…because by then we’ll know how to implement these passports EVERYWHERE. When the next crisis hits, we’ll expand the program.)

    (Kind of like how we got everyone to accept the TSA stuff in the US as “normal.” )

    I remember meeting my father as he got off the plane for his once a year business trip when I was a child. I remember when I flew home for a break from college and one of my parents meeting me at the gate. I remember bidding someone farewell as they boarded a plane. I remember….
    But that has been taken from us. After nearly 20 years, will it ever be returned to us? Is anyone even bothering to clamor for it?

    In 20 years when Google and the government know our every move, every location, will we see that as “normal,” shrug it off, and think nothing of it? Like the serfs of old, many of whom never thought to question their place in life?

    #72434
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Regarding my comment yesterday

    I’m aware that mrsa came about through overuse of antibiotics.
    I only referred to “pharma” and didn’t throw “medical” in there because what I was responding to only encompassed “pharma” and I didn’t want to generalize.
    I’m aware that brief uses of pharmaceuticals is very different from long-term use.
    (There is a reason why I refused to medicate my son, accurately diagnosed with ADHD, ODD, DMDD, and Anxiety. I know that my decision was seen as odd by multiple medical and behavioral health and school professionals.)
    I wish my father didn’t use statins, but he trusts his doctor over all of his adult female family members.
    However…
    I also acknowledge that there are many individuals with chronic conditions that are alive only because of maintenance medicines or whose lives are greatly improved through use of maintenance medicines.
    There are no simple answers.

    Or, for me, there are *some* simple answers:
    The profit motive. The profit motive is generally incompatible with the Hippocratic Oath.
    The desire for “power over” others. “Power over” implies controlling access to information and resources, and is incompatible with the Hippocratic Oath.

    We live in a world where “profit is king,” and that corrupts our medicine. We live in a world where “democracy” has been subverted to mean “behavioral control” of the masses by an elite group, which corrupts our medical science. Sure, those are both over-simplifications, but as generalizations they are largely accurate.

    #72436
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @ phoenixvoice

    Regarding your comment starting “Covid passports in UK”, it kind of wowed me thinking why had not seen that from the over time perspective. So true

    #72440
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Show me a warrant or get out/off my property / I will not talk to you is a lesson many should learn

    #72441
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @ madamski

    Thank you

    #72443
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Don’t question little sheeple when we lead you into the gas chambers

    #72444
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    My last comment was not fully formed and I am not referring to the people here. I am thinking of my parents and my 95 year old grandmother who will likely get the vaccine.

    #72445
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    My 95 year old grandmother is so full of life that she acts like a teenager at times. The last time she really hurt herself was when she needed something out of the top cupboard. She is short around 5 feet and thankfully I am not but unfortunately I was not around when she placed a chair in front of the cupboard and then on top of the chair she placed a 5 gallon bucket and then she climbed up on top of the mess because she felt like she was 16. No lie. It resulted in pain

    #72448
    WES
    Participant

    That Pastor sure gave the 6 police quite a sermon! Nice strong clear words too!

    At all times he remained in full control of the situation.

    I especially liked that he knew better than to try and engaged in a conversation with these idiots, otherwise they would have dragged the Pastor down to their idiot level and then beat him with experience!

    #72449
    cloudhidden
    Participant
    #72450
    WES
    Participant

    Michael Reid:

    I am glad to hear you can still party! That is one of the things I can not really do anymore. I need good light and quiet to converse these days.

    Just curious. In the past, I have often wanted to talk to someone off the grid about their experiences. Your electrical background is a nice asset to have when dealing with an off the grid power system.

    About 20 years ago I considered whether I could take my cottage off the grid or not. At the time solar panels in Canada were still too expensive, like maybe $8 to $10 per watt. Today it is maybe about $2 to $3 a watt for solar panels. Then there was the issue of storage batteries. Since we don’t use the cottage during the winter, I would have had to remove the heavy batteries and store them inside the house on trickle charge to keep them from freezing and being damaged. Also with a wife and 2 young kids who were not into using less energy, I dropped the idea. It was probably the right decision. Now I am too old to reconsider the idea.

    Are you off the grid because you are too remote?
    Or is it just a personal choice?
    Do you adjust the angle of the solar panels between winter and summer seasons?
    How many batteries are you using?
    Any idea how long these batteries last or may last?
    Any idea of what your capital costs are per year to keep your power system operating plus replace any failing batteries?
    Any critter issues?

    I think it costs me about $800 or more for hydro for the cottage each year. I should probably check again since they are always jacking up the costs every year!

    I am sure there were some unexpected maintenance issues that have popped up from time to time. You mentioned cutting back busher/branches around the solar panels, probably not a big issue.

    #72451
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @WES

    I texted that video to most of my family and friends. No response. I suggested if you want to have a party and the police show up this is how to handle the situation and persevere your rights. Still feeling different from the majority as always. Anyway people must be free to live how they feel no matter where it leads.

    #72453
    WES
    Participant

    Matt Gaetz is merely under going the Uniparty’s trial by media fire to get rid of anybody related to President Trump. Jim Jordon is suffering the same treatment. The uniparty is just trying to purge itself of anything to do with Trump. Perfectly normal swamp behavior! Corruption’s sewers must flow unimpeded!

    Basically the uniparty crooks are not content to have driven the only honest man out of town. They need to drive out any other honest men. If you just stole the election from an honest man, you now need to totally destroy the honest man whom you just drove out of town, in order to feel more secure!

    President Trump has been permanently banned from all of big techs media platforms. Unfortunately for the crooks the honest man, run out of town, has set up his own independent media platform.

    Clearly the crooks still fear that honest man. They tried multiple times to JFK him but he has his own security detail so they have failed so far. They wire tapped the White House. They tried multiple times to use the FBI and DofJ to drum up fake crimes to impeach him. In NYC they are still trying to find a crime to convict him and make him ineligible to run in 2024! They are granting immunity to any criminal they can find to take down President Trump.

    It seems the crook’s “Woke Cancel Culture” (WCC) managed to get MLB to cancel their all-star game in Atlanta.

    Now the non-wokes are going to boycott MLB, Coca-Cola, Delta Airlines, JPMorgan Chase, Citigroup, Cisco, UPS, and Merck for supporting WCC!

    Anybody remember what happened to football attendance and TV ratings, a few years ago, after the non-wokes boycotted the NFL? The NFL numbers are still falling to this day!

    Interesting times in corrupt land!

    #72454
    WES
    Participant

    The ivermectin supplier in India informed me last night that PayPal has suspended it’s service with him because they suspect he is selling medicines.

    Right now I have no way to pay him. My bank td won’t let me pay him in anything but Indian currency. My son has a PayPal account but we couldn’t find anyway to pay. Now I know why.

    Right now I am stuck. I might have to try and set up a new account with a PayPal competitor?

    I had hope to be able to pay with Master Card but that doesn’t seem possible either.

    Any suggestions?

    #72455
    WES
    Participant

    There are still a few who value their freedom over death.

    Me, I still need to be careful but respect different points of view.

    Clearly governments everywhere have gone too far in allowing health laws to over ride common law.

    #72456
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @ WES

    If you have a grid connection possibility I recommend to use that.

    If you are concerned with the reliability of the grid get a fine generator and stabilized fuel as a backup.

    The off grid system I have costs around $100000

    The only reason to do that is because there is no grid connection. Lacking knowledge I was under the impression that the solar system was the best for the environment but I was wrong. If you watch the documentary “Planet of the humans” you will understand.

    The best value would be to have massive fuel storage, a fine generator and an identical one for backup

    #72457
    WES
    Participant

    Michael Reid:

    That is one hell of a lot of money for power!

    I agree a grid connection is the best and probably the best for the environment too since power is generated in just a few places allowing pollution controls to be done at a few power plants rather than trying to do so individually. Like ICE cars. Even if coal is used to power EVs, at least better pollution controls only need to be implemented at one spot, not on a million plus cars.

    I did build a 400 watt wind turbines at the cottage one summer from scratch. I attached it to a floating dock steel post. I had no load attached which would have limited it’s top speed and prevent runaway speeds. Well in a moderate wind the dam thing started spinning pretty fast! It roared so much, I can still remember seeing the whites of my kids eyes as they stopped playing on the trampoline and turned around to watch! It was like a helicopter taking off! I had to wait until the wind died down a little bit before I could safely grab the blades and stop them from spinning.

    Later I put it on one of the trampoline posts with a load on it and ran it in a light wind producing up to 30 vdc. I concluded my neighbors would run me off the island if I ever tried to set it up! It now sits, minus blades, in the steel jaws of my boathouse work bench vice collecting dust!

    These days I view these green toxic things as something where you have to put in more energy than you will ever get out! Only rich countries can afford such nonsense!

    Funny my son works as a GE turbine maintenance tech. (Millwright journeyman) just north of Orangeville.. After 2 years, I think he is finding it rather boring and may quit.

    #72459
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @ WES

    Yes solar is the best choice based on remote location.

    If I remember correctly I paid around $0.75 per watt.

    The best battery bank is a single string of deep cycle flooded lead acid batteries. Rolls Surette batteries made in Nova Scotia were my choice. The ones I chose have maybe 4 inches of electrolyte reserve where one adds deionized water which gets consumed by the charge cycles. No need to worry about freezing if loads are disconnected and the solar is keeping the batteries fully charged. Using all the water/electrolyte and drying out the cell causes major battery damage so be sure to sure to top with water at least monthly if in use.

    For an off grid year round home like mine I built the arrays at the angle that provides maximum power for the shortest day of the year. Every other day has the potential to yield more.

    I have a 24 volt battery bank. It consists of six 4 volt batteries with each battery weighing 340 pounds.

    The battery bank should last me the rest of my life if properly watered. Very heavily built quality batteries and a daily depth of discharge of 10 to 20 percent. I ran the calculations but don’t recall exactly. I tried to design for 10 percent daily depth of discharge. The deeper you discharge the battery the less charge cycles for the battery life.

    The major consumable is deionized water. I recently purchased the necessary filtration to produce deionized water myself.

    Most of the work occurs in the winter when I have to shovel snow away from the arrays and clean snow off the panels.

    #72460
    WES
    Participant

    phoenixvoice:

    I remember those days of airplane travel too! Now sadly few know they ever existed!

    Then the world changed and not for the better.

    When I travelled to Yugoslavia in 1978 from Brussels, the JAL airplane sat all by itself. There were 6 heavily armed (submachine guns) troops surrounding the plane on the tramac. They let us passengers out from the heavily guarded terminal, only 2 at a time. Our suitcases were sitting on the tarmac. We would indicate which ones were ours and they were then put on the baggage cart. Any not selected got left behind.

    When I landed in Belgrade all of our suitcases were run through x-ray scanners. I had 3 bags. The first went through. It had a cassette/radio. The second bag went through. It had 2 electronic meters. The third bag went through. It had a big loud mechanical Old Ben windup alarm clock that I needed to wake me up in the morning!

    Well guess what! They had had enough of my bags! Everything just calmly seem to stop! Then the hairs on the back of my neck started to stand up! Then I knew something was very wrong! Turning around slowly I saw 2 heavily armed soldiers nervously pointing their sub machine guns at me!

    They nervously motioned to me to unlock and open each bag, one at a time. I removed the cassette/radio and carefully handed it to the x-ray operator. She seemed satisfied it was real before tossing it to the soldiers to check. Everyone seemed happy it was real and not a bomb. Then I opened the second suitcase and removed the 2 meters. Same thing. Everybody happy they were real meters. Power on/off.

    Then I opened the third suitcase. This obviously contained the no-no item! I pulled out the Old Ben alarm clock and handed it to the x-ray operator. She satisfied herself that it was real and it worked. She tossed it to the 2 soldiers who proceeded to satisfy themselves that yes it was just an ordinary alarm clock and not wired to a bomb!

    Now the soldiers relaxed and started to smile! I explained to the x-ray operator I was hard of hearing so I needed such a big loud alarm clock so I could hear it! She was now happy and we all smiled and joked about the rather big alarm clock! Everything was now back to being friendly!

    P.S. When I went to leave the country I had to go through this process again!

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