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    Joel Meyerowitz Girl On A Scooter 1965   • 20 Countries Order One Billion Doses Of Russian COVID19 Vaccine (RT) • America’s Window Of Opportunity
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle August 12 2020]

    #62081
    V. Arnold
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    Joel Meyerowitz Girl On A Scooter 1965

    That would have been a very sexy photo back in the day…
    Today? A very nice picture of a girl on a scooter…
    😉

    #62083
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Like everything MSM, it’s become all about opinion -because clickbait-, not news.

    It seems the internet/intertubes is now 99% clickbait.
    Amost everything requires more than one click.
    If I don’t get what I clicked on/for then I bail out.
    I’ll not play these games…PERIOD!
    …over…

    #62086
    zerosum
    Participant

    HELP
    Winter is coming
    trickle down
    the tap has been closed
    fiscal cliff
    ran out of steam
    insolvent
    jobless
    consumption plunges,
    recessionary environment.
    QUIET … I’M WORKING SMART

    #62087
    John Day
    Participant

    @Sumac.Carol and V.Arnold:
    Yeah, how the hell does doxyccycline help fight COVID, in conjunction with zinc and ivermectin?
    Firstly, and maybe leastly, it fights secondary infection. It’s a broad spectrum antibiotic, effective against typical and atypical causes of pneumonia.
    What abot everything else? That’s speculative, and it has been hard to find any educated comments that hint, but I did. It may increase intracellular zinc and may decrease SARS-CoV-2 binding to and entry into cells. “MAY”…

    @Huskynut
    : I’m curious, too about what population factors may increase or decrease spread, morbidity and mortality from SARS-CoV-2 virus. DAMN that’s a complex world out there!
    There are trials ongoing of hydroxychloroquine prophylaxis and apparently ivermectin, also, but I can’t dig too deeply now about where they are, since still in-process, and not reported. It does still look, last I peeked, like people on chronic hydroxychloroquine for rheumatoid diseases are just not getting COVID much at all.
    Do take vitamin-D 5000 units per day and you might up it to 10,000 units per day for a couple of months if COVID gets into or close to your circle of living humans.
    I’m eating some fresh black-eyed peas that I shelled yesterday for breakfast, with onion, tomatoes, garlic and peppers also from the garden, and a little butter and salt. It’s lovely. Vegetables are good for ya’.

    #62088

    John Day,

    With the number of alternatives to HCQ increasing, would you like to write a short article about them? Including of course your vit. D and zinc recommendations etc. I find I’m losing oversight a little. trying to remember what the last things was Zelenko talked about etc. When googling him for that, I read he had emergency heart surgery 2-3 weeks ago to remove a tumor?! Successful at least.

    #62089
    John Day
    Participant

    Thanks for the invitation, Ilargi, and I try to keep up with this, and it’s generally in spurts, when I can, when I’m not rushing along in some other set of tasks, like the homestead in Yoakum, working at People’s Clinic, grafting avocado scion onto avocado rootstock (first attempt is surviving right here in front of me on post-op day #2), tending gardens at Austin 1/2 duplex, and the clinic, tending all the spam comments on my blog, bike commuting…
    Marc G. MD sent this good graphic summary of hydroxychloroquine study results, with trends.Early or prophylactic treatment: GOOD, later treatment: Less Good:
    https://c19study.com/?fbclid=IwAR0hvH_xb2dsr3kvmiFnog1y57p34Ml09S5DzBxoktFpvyEncrYvseMIzM4
    Dr Marc G. also sent this case series from the BMJ on famotidine (Pepcid) 80 mg 3 times per day, which looked helpful, but a case series is fairly weak evidence.

    #62090
    John Day
    Participant

    Oops, Famotidine/Pepcid case series link: https://gut.bmj.com/content/69/9/1592

    #62091
    cloudhidden
    Participant

    @ John Day
    quote from you a couple of days ago “In the future, if it works out that way, they will look back and wonder what possessed us, as we wonder about the rush into WW-2, but we can’t understand, because we were not under the pervasive influence of the group mind of that time.
    I see this now.
    I’m probably a goner, soon…”
    What did you mean there? “I’m probably a goner soon.”
    My wife(as am I) is very curious to know why the “goner” reference.
    Kind regards
    Cloudhidden

    #62092
    John Day
    Participant

    @cloudhidden:
    In answer to:
    “In the future, if it works out that way, they will look back and wonder what possessed us, as we wonder about the rush into WW-2, but we can’t understand, because we were not under the pervasive influence of the group mind of that time.
    I see this now.
    I’m probably a goner, soon…”
    What did you mean there? “I’m probably a goner soon.”
    My wife(as am I) is very curious to know why the “goner” reference.

    I just meant to make a little joke about the general fate of those who attain understanding of life, of politics, and a view of where this is leading, into a huge societal reset (at best). Having such insight didn’t do Cassandra much good, and she certainly fared better than all the prophets/messengers who got killed for delivering bad news…

    #62093
    John Day
    Participant

    http://www.johndayblog.com/2020/08/no-answers.html
    Kamala Harris: “She was my number one pick”, Donald Trump
    “She did very, very poorly in the primaries as you know. She was expected to do well. She ended up at right around 2% and spent a lot of money.” Trump said.
    “She had a lot of things happening. And so I was a little surprised that he picked her,” Trump concluded, adding “I’ve been watching her for a long time. And I was a little surprised.”

    Trump On Kamala: “She Was My Number One Pick”

    ​To beat a dead horse, 59% of likely American voters don’t think Biden can finish a 4 year term. (Can he start it?)
    ​https://summit.news/2020/08/10/poll-majority-of-americans-think-biden-unlikely-to-finish-4-year-term-in-white-house/

    So what is the DNC actually planning to do, if Biden/Harris can’t possibly win, and all the lawfare against team Trump is about to reverse-the-charges and “drain the swamp” of the Clinton machine?
    Just asking. I’m baffled. What’s in the secret sauce?

    #62094
    lasttwo
    Participant

    So watching Surviving Epstein series. One the one side we have the Clinton dem party quite sure he was part of it. On the other side we have his buddy Trump who would surely new and was probably involved . America is lost. Run by people with mental sickness perverts and addicts (greed)

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/evolution-the-self/201210/greed-the-ultimate-addiction

    #62095
    zerosum
    Participant

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/mega-cap-tech-stocks-soar-again-reflation-rotation-ends-abruptly
    S&P Jumps Above Record High After $9 Trillion Global Liquidity Tsunami
    IS THAT ALL THAT $9 TRILLION CAN DO!
    I GUESS THAT MOST OF IT WAS USED TO PAY OFF THE EXISTING LEVERAGE

    #62096
    ₿oogaloo
    Participant

    Ilargi, I am not doctor, but I have been collecting snippets of possible protocols, including John Day’s Vitamin D recommendations.

    I raised my Vitamin D from 19 to 62 over five months following John’s recommendation of 10,000 per day for the first month and 5000 per day after that. Normal range is between 30 and 70 (with the higher end of the range being better than the lower end).

    I eat one Brazil nut per day for the selenium. Brazil nuts are the best natural source of selenium, which you need for your selenoproteins.

    Chloroquine and hydroxycholoroquine work best when given with zinc, and that is because they act as a zinc ionophore (helping the zinc get into the cell where it can disrupt viral replication). But you need a prescription for those (unless you want to take your chances with chloroquine for the aquarium — NOT recommended).

    Other known zinc ionophores are the common antioxidant supplements Quercetin and epigallocatechin-gallate (EGCG). EGCG is found in green tea. I will start taking these supplements with my zinc piconolate supplement if and when people in my circle start to get infected, or at the first sign of any symptoms (before I get to the doctor to ask for a HCL prescription). More on the zinc ionophores here: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25050823/

    There is also some data that Famotidine (pepcid) may help, and there clinical trials ongoing, as John linked to. As I see it, pepcid is cheap and there is no downside to using it (I am not aware of any risky interactions with zinc, quercetin, or EGCG), so I would give it a try, though it is not in my medicine cabinet at the moment. This report says that it does not work — at least not directly (though who care if it works directly or indirectly, as long as it works, right?):

    A popular heartburn medicine doesn’t work as a COVID-19 antiviral

    If the zinc ionophores do not work and a case takes a turn for the worse, including hospitalization, then it is onto the MATH+ protocol, which you can find here:

    Home

    I need to read up on the Ivermectin.

    #62097
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Russia has announced it registered a vaccine for the corona virus. Vladimir Putin said his daughter has gotten two shots of the vaccine (which is the regimen).
    Of course the west has gone ape-shit with all kinds of spurious claims about it can’t possibly be true.
    The gods be good; everything is politicised and weaponised in our crumbling world…
    As to the Russian vaccine? May the gods speed…

    #62098
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Re: the above; the vaccine has been released for testing, not for the general population.
    The testing will take some months, with production hoped for in January 2021.

    This from Science Magazine via MoA;
    Science Magazine is one of the few media who got it right:

    In a startling and confusing move, Russia claimed today it had approved the world’s first COVID-19 vaccine, as the nation’s Ministry of Health issued what’s called a registration certificate for a vaccine candidate that has been tested in just 76 people. The certificate allows the vaccine, developed by the Gamaleya Research Institute of Epidemiology and Microbiology in Moscow, to be given to “a small number of citizens from vulnerable groups,” including medical staff and the elderly, a Ministry of Health spokesperson tells ScienceInsider. But the certificate stipulates that the vaccine cannot be used widely until 1 January 2021, presumably after larger clinical trials have been completed.

    Anywho, I hope that clears any confusion. When it comes to something this important, correct information is critical…

    #62100
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    I didn’t want to lose this article:

    The U.S. ‘may have missed a window’ to produce ‘an important bridge’ to a coronavirus vaccine
    Tim O’Donnell
    But even if they are, it may be too late. Former Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Scott Gottlieb said the U.S. “may have a missed a window” to scale up production of the treatments, which otherwise “could have been an important bridge to a vaccine.” Perhaps more importantly, he added, they could also serve as a “hedge in the event vaccines are delayed or don’t work.” Ultimately, despite the antibodies’ potential to change the tides of the pandemic, Gottlieb said, “we just don’t have enough doses to realize that goal.”

    This is just stunning, a jaw dropper…

    Just how many times can the U.S. illustrate such gross incompetence?
    Before the world turns away, in totality, from anything U.S.?
    Can it possibly be tomorrow?
    …I doubt it; junkies find it hard to kick the habit…

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