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    Dorothea Lange “Men on ‘Skid Row’, Modesto, California” 1937   • Boeing Crisis Escalates As Planemaker Halts 737 Production (R.) • Judge Denies F
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle December 17 2019]

    #52184
    absolute galore
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    I appreciate your mostly excellent aggregation of alternative news, as well as your justifiable criticism of mainstream media sources. That’s why it’s disheartening to see you throw up the end graphic, which appears to have zero substance. The only function it serves (unless you have reporting to back it up?) is to undermine your entire body of work here, by indulging in exactly the kind of misrepresentation and false information you accuse others of.
    https://www.politifact.com/facebook-fact-checks/statements/2019/oct/10/facebook-posts/pelosi-romney-and-kerry-dont-have-sons-working-com/

    I’m not saying this source is unbiased, but it certainly seems to debunk your graphic information, and unless you have something to back yours up to the extent that the politifact site has, you are spreading misinformation at best with this.

    #52185
    Dr. D
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    Looks positively wonderful, men clean and ready for work, well-kept buildings open for business. Here’s Skid Row today:
    Skid
    https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/391ee94/2147483647/strip/true/crop/800×450+0+0/resize/840×473!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fa6%2F8c%2F15089041ae15d6f71e08efa0b6da%2Fla-1560377368-mj67sxkra5-snap-image

    Our favorite Cait, on Jess Phillips, category: “that is not suspicious at all”:
    https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/hot-mic-moment-exposes-insane-sleaziness-of-british-political-media-class-909bd4980ba2
    “Jess it’s just that you look very emotional, and we know you, we know you’re a normal, sane person, so it’s very confusing,” host Katherine Ryan bullshitted…”

    Yes, we usually have to say, “Hi! This is my friend Bob (comma) not a psychopath, but a normal, sane person like you and me.” A bit offputting, you think? Oh by the way, this was the media that was supposedly – and suddenly – anti Labour, and somehow suddenly, after 100 years of the BBC, pro-Johnson. Sure they were. Just like here, everyone knows the media is all pro-Trump.

    However, Cait’s article does point up where the Corbyn smears were coming from, since the British media wouldn’t listen to or give any Tory from coast to coast (i.e. now proven to be the British electorate) the time of day: the smears were coming from the LEFT, from backstabbing in his own party, not the right.

    “Phillips’ hot mic moment, and the mad scramble of the show’s perception-managing pundits to clean it up, provides us with a brief glimpse behind the phony persona that the empire’s political/media class put on for us”

    Indeed.

    Judge Denies Flynn’s Requests for Exculpatory Information, Case Dismissal (ET)”

    Well that’s pretty amazing that it’s making people cheerful to know that the prosecutors can withhold all evidence – officially – in coordination with the judge, which is contrary to 230 years of U.S. law. And people LIKE it when the accused is denied available evidence. How odd. Well, until you’re the one in the defense chair of course, then it’s like “How dare they! Muh Civil Rights wuz wronged!” I’ll just say that now, for all accused, who are presumed innocent, have access to lawyers, and by which under our system have access to all, ALL, of the prosecution’s evidence, ESPECIALLY the exculpatory parts. Those are the only ones that matter. Like Free speech, it’s only speech you don’t like, that’s hurtful, damaging, or anti-government that needs protection. Nope. We only like it when the accused do NOT have evidence, and the people have the right to do exactly what the government says.

    What Everyone is Missing About the Afghanistan Papers (TMU)”

    These papers are hilarious and should be the preview shown before every action-packed, flag-waving special Ops movie. “We had no idea what we were doing.” and “We were devoid of a fundamental understanding of Afghanistan.”
    “There was no NATO campaign plan . . . I tried to get someone to define what winning meant, even before I went over, and nobody could.”
    “Truth was rarely welcome . . . There was more room to share bad news if it was small — we’re running over kids with our [armored vehicles] . . .”
    ““If the American people knew the magnitude of this dysfunction . . . 2,400 lives lost. Who will say this was in vain?”

    Yet they didn’t stop. But why? Why if it wasn’t working and they knew it? Quote: “Another source reports that the level of graft and corruption is “fatal” to our chances.”

    Yes, fatal for the chances of people in Flint to get fresh water. But not fatal to the war machine and its profits at all. They are defended with “full faith and confidence” to this day, and we are still there, funneling that corruption to Rumsfeld’s pals. Here’s a quote: “The UN Charter is a treaty ratified by the United States and thus part of U.S. law. Under the charter, a country can use armed force against another country only in self-defense or when the Security Council approves. Neither of those conditions was met… The U.S. war in Afghanistan is illegal.

    And the U.N. wholeheartedly approves! No fake OPCW reports floated to slow US down! No sirree, quite the contrary, they create reports to speed us up! More beautiful bombs! Moar war! What was it 135 fake gas attack reports, one a week and twice in March and April? Thanks U.N., now I know why you’re a joke throughout the solar system, and we stopped funding you. YOU are the world’s pro-war machine. Right behind us and NATO, and against the American people, who have voted against it every time for 30 years with Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, and now Trump.

    Chinese Crypto Scammers Helped Inspire Recent Bitcoin Market Carnage (ZH)”

    It’s pretty hard to tell since, like all other exchanges on planet earth, the crypto exchanges don’t sell or trade real on-chain bitcoins. Like all other markets: stock, bond, commodity, they sell unattached synthetic derivatives, probably hypothecated 300:1. But hey, if no one minds, the “Truth is in the math” folks are on board, who am I to ask for truth and legal accounting? So old-fashioned to actually have the product you’re selling.

    40% more women in college than men”

    Aside from what that means to supposed sexism and wage-gaps, or indications of total collapse of men’s prospects, I would suggest this means nobody’s getting married anytime soon, or ever. You would be assuming the woman’s larger, un-defaultable student debt, which is akin to financial malfeasance and would be crippling your children. If you married her, you should probably go to jail for child abuse. Oh and as I say every day, also totally illegal: option for bankruptcy is in the Constitution. Thanks Clinton! That and Glass-Steagal, you’re a pal! AND China WTO, AND mass incarceration of ‘Superpredators’, AND…

    Erdogan Threatens to Recognise Killings of Native Americans as Genocide (Ind.)”

    I thought everyone already recognized this. My bad. It’s reality, so clearly we have to pretend the #OppositeLand. Oh, newsflash to all you other peoples on planet earth: at some point in the past YOUR country committed genocide too. That’s how they got the land and exist today. Don’t believe me: go read some books and take a look. Also, like slavery, that was over 100 years ago: can I be worried about the slavery and genocide going on in Libya, Yemen, and Ukraine now?

    Sacklers Took $11 Billion Out of Purdue Pharma as Opioid Crisis Worsened (AP)

    Great story, bro. Nice to find a fall guy and cover for the real crime: How did the Sackler’s situation get so SO far out of line that it’s headlines in a lawsuit? Funny, ‘cause I thought opioids were all furiously overseen by government. I thought the AMA and Pharmacists kept records. I thought local law enforcement, Mueller’s FBI might take notice of 30,000 people dying and 100 prescriptions per person going through multiple towns of 2,000. I thought someone might notice when no less than three of the largest shows on streaming covered this: Narcos, Breaking Bad, and Ozark. For 20 years straight I can get needed drugs cheaper and easier down the street than from my doctor. But nobody knows a god d—ned thing. Funny ol’ world. Nope! It’s the Sacklers. The government will stop them there baddies. Trust us.

    What are the odds that, after pumping in $5B+ into Ukraine, to (illegally) use direct deadly violence to topple a sovereign government, as a war crime in direct defiance of the U.N., their treaties, and an open war crime, they worked for Ukraine, openly stealing 100% of their gold, breaking up the cashola and funneling it back out through their family via a deep web of money laundering, as the checks, banks, and organizations involved were revealed yesterday? About 100%. There’d be no point in toppling the government and killing all those people otherwise is there? “Why do you rob banks?” “It’s where the money is.” –Willie Sutton. See above. This is HOW GOVERNMENTS ACT. De-fund them to a minimum and minimize the mischief and murder they can get up to.

    Nope! The answer is more government. That’ll fix it but good.

    #52186

    Yeah, no, I didn’t check that pic. I don’t think one can easily overestimate what a cesspool Ukraine is, and how Americans have taken advantage of that. So I don’t feel really shy about using it.

    I do know that Kerry’s stepson Chris Heinz owns, with Hunter Biden, Seneca partners, which is certainly linked to Ukraine. No time to check the others right now. Checking these things has become so much harder anyway; Google only returns MSM. What I can see is Romney’s former chief adviser was on the board of Burisma (granted, not a child) before he moved on to Blackwater, and Nancy Pelosi’s son Paul imports Ukrainian oil. So, two out of three, three out of 4 with Hunter, are children linked to Ukraine, and the odd one out, Romney chief adviser, was on Burisma’s board.

    I’m not sure that qualifies as misinformation, even if they didn’t “work for” Ukraine gas companies. If Giuliani has done a proper job, we could see what’s really been going on. Not sure he’ll be allowed though.

    Tons of links here.

    #52187
    Rayner86
    Participant

    The graphic, while only partially correct, does point to the conflicting interests of the pictured parties. Pelosi and Biden’s sons were associated with Gas companies in Ukraine. Mitt Romney’s top aide from the 2012 campaign is on the board for Burisma, and Chris Heinz co-owned Rosemont Capital ( a multi-billion dollar hedge fund) with Hunter Biden until 2014 nypost.com/2018/03/15/inside-the-shady-private-equity-firm-run-by-kerry-and-bidens-kids/). The 4 Ps of corruption are present in spades: Preference, Power, Privilege and Payments. The key is this kind of corruption happens out of sight and is not talked about in the political establishment because most of them engage in it. An outsider who can’t keep his mouth shut is a threat to everybody’s gravy train, so they take a page out of Karl Marx’s book “Accuse Your Enemy Of What You Are Doing, As You Are Doing It To Create Confusion”. The graphic is not 100% correct but isn’t 100% wrong.

    #52189
    Dr. D
    Participant

    What would be the point of having illegal war crimes and illegally funding a coup in Ukraine if not for money and power? Out of the goodness of their hearts?

    A corollary is what good is it to own a media company if not to lie, and to take money and power from others to lie on their behalf? For the 2% profit margin, if any? Please. It’s a big club and you ain’t in it. You’re on the receiving end of the club.

    Don’t carry water for these provable-war-crimes psychopaths. Don’t be partisan either: we’re picking on these four, and rightfully so; what’s Kushner been up to lately? Having Israel insiders pay off his multi-billion dollar crappy business decisions? Not a word. Sauce for goose but not gander. Investigate your guy for years forever, but don’t even ASK questions about my guy. Fire them all, but as we ourselves no longer have morality, we now beg for a iron king to rule us, to tell us what is true, what our eyes see, so we can say, “Yes sir! I believe only you sir! You’re the greatest, sir!” XOXOXOXOXO

    You’re a human raised by humans. Regain your heritage and your soul. Think for yourself.

    #52190

    “illegal war crimes”

    Interesting term.

    #52191
    zerosum
    Participant

    • What Everyone is Missing About the Afghanistan Papers (TMU)
    1 trillion dollar
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    • College Enrollment Skids 8th Year in a Row, But Student Loans Skyrocket (WS)
    Since 2011, enrollment has declined by 13% for men and by 9.4% for women.
    Women still hope to find their bread and butter from going to university.
    Of course, Expenses cannot go down, nor can inflation go down.
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    • Kudlow: US-China Deal ‘Absolutely’ Done, US Exports To China Will Double (R.)

    Kudlow has a crystal ball that is better than everyone else looking at the future.
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    • Sacklers Took $11 Billion Out Of Purdue Pharma As Opioid Crisis Worsened (AP)
    Give me a break …. lawyers and accountants are fighting over the crumbs of the elites ….
    Nobody got hurt. Opioids are pain killers. Its not the same as the Afgan war where people got hurt while fighting over $1 trillion.
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    • Assange Extradition Fight Could Turn On Reports He Was Spied On For CIA (G.)

    Yes, extradite Assange to USA and make sure that he goes to trial to tell the truth about what he knows. This will result in “head” bowling balls.
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    @ absolute galore
    the politifact site has not produced any facts debunking and proving that those 4 kids are innocent.
    Did you check the links given to you. Here it is again.
    https://www.tierneyrealnewsnetwork.com/post/romney-kerry-biden-mccain-pelosi-schiff-mueller-clinton-are-tied-to-sketchy-ukraine-deals

    Are you suggesting that all bank records, travel receipts, hotel receipts, restaurant receipts, employment and income tax records have been falsified?
    Are you suggesting that those four innocent children have not been to Europe and you have proof of their gainful employment in the USA with the documentation to prove it.
    What are the odds of having the children of four American elites getting an outrageous rake in the Ukraine?
    Answer:

    100%
    Since it was set up by the best lawyers, accountants and bankers, to make it opaque and legal.
    That’s what elites do for their kids. Stop being an enabler for the elites.

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    #52192
    zerosum
    Participant

    Hey!
    Do you have contradicting documentation for what is being presented by the following.

    Latvian government says it flagged ‘suspicious’ Hunter Biden payments in 2016


    Latvian government says it flagged ‘suspicious’ Hunter Biden payments in 2016
    December 17, 2019

    The Latvian correspondence adds to a growing body of evidence that questions and investigations of Burisma were swirling in early 2016 just before Joe Biden used his authority as vice president to force the firing of Ukraine Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin in March 2016 by threatening to withhold $1 billion in U.S. aid.
    Shokin was overseeing a wide-ranging Ukrainian investigation of Burisma and has said he was making plans to interview Hunter Biden when he was fired by Ukraine’s president and parliament in March 2016 under pressure from Joe Biden.
    Biden and his defenders have said he forced the firing of Shokin because the Ukraine prosecutor was an ineffective corruption fighter; Shokin alleges he was dismissed because he wouldn’t end the Burisma probe.
    The Biden family has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing, with Jill Biden offering the latest defense of her son this past weekend. “I know my son. I know my son’s character. Hunter did nothing wrong. And that’s the bottom line,” she told MSNBC.

    #52193
    zerosum
    Participant
    #52194
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    I’ll connect the two for you, Afghanistan papers and physicians belatedly demanding care for Assange. Nobody listens to physicians anymore. My orders have been corrupted and disrupted by nurses, nursing assistants, technicians non-licensed secretaries and their enablers from the hospital C-suites. Any physician who doesn’t abide this arrangement is labeled either ‘disruptive physician’ to be decredentialed, delicensed and sanctioned by the state for the medical board’s current cause celebre OR that doctor has already aligned with the c-suite narcissistic malignancy.

    As for Afghanistan, how do you think the current crop of generals, admirals and military medical leaders made their present, lofty rank and office? Afghanistan.

    None of those folk will be made or even voluntarily surrender the trappings of the office, their ill-gotten gains. And no one is going to replace them with me, one of the few uniformed personnel who stood opposed to the misconduct perpetrated over nearly two decades. I was told at the time by a fellow Captain that my “stance weakened the nation”. I was rebuked publicly that the Hippocratic Oath falls secondary to some new obligation defined as a higher ethical and moral call to justice in defense of the nation. The Hippocratic Oath is a non sequitur when Title X U.S. Code already requires military medical personnel and chaplains to adhere to the Geneva Conventions. Let that sink in for a moment.
    My reply remains the same today. My stance is/was in keeping with Title X U.S. Code, the UCMJ and my oath of office.

    #52195
    zerosum
    Participant

    Fact check
    Jill Biden offering the latest defense of her son this past weekend. “I know my (step) son. I know my (step) son’s character. Hunter did nothing wrong. And that’s the bottom line,” she told MSNBC. ( MSNBC did poor fact check)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Biden
    She married Joe Biden in 1977, and became stepmother to his two young sons from his first marriage, Beau and Hunter, whose mother and baby sister died in a car accident in 1972. Joe and Jill Biden have a daughter, Ashley, born in 1981.
    She is Stepgrandmother of illegitimate child

    ( https://pagesix.com/2019/11/27/hunter-bidens-lunden-roberts-was-stripper-at-club-he-frequented/)
    Hunter Biden’s ‘baby mama’ Lunden Roberts was stripper at club he frequented
    By Joe Marino, Elizabeth Rosner, Sara Nathan and Bruce Golding
    November 27, 2019

    #52196
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “Latvian Government Flagged “Suspicious” Hunter Biden Payments In 2016″

    How about that? Latvia thinks it’s suspicious, Ukraine thinks it’s suspicious, Politico thinks it’s suspicious, the U.S. State Department thinks it’s suspicious, but not us! We can’t even ask the QUESTION whether it’s suspicious, even when the rest of the world tells us it is in legal affidavits, forwarded bank records, and their multiple national news reports. Nope! It’s so impossible that anyone in the U.S. is corrupt, we don’t even have to look!

    We’re a pretty exceptional nation that way.

    #52197
    WES
    Participant

    Raul:. Your Ukraine money laundering graph is 100% correct!

    The only thing wrong with the graph, is it does not show the billions of other dollars laundered to the rest of the political elites in the US, both Republican and Democrats.

    As for galore above, he has to work very hard at wilfully not knowing inconvient facts!

    #52198
    absolute galore
    Participant

    Uh, yeah. I’ll stop my enabling of the elites with my comment here on TAE.
    I’m fully on board with the Hunter Biden connection–it’s the other three connections that are unsubstantiated, and in fact the actual available information would seem to contradict that graphic. I would say it is 25% correct until proven otherwise.
    I am not a main stream media consumer. Again, my issue is, why be intemperate and blithely throw around any old thing? Isn’t that exactly the problem? From what I can see, the Biden connection is well-documented at this point. But by making unsubstantiated claims in the same context, more harm than good comes out of it because it makes it too easy for people to now dismiss the case that has been made. Beware of confirmation bias, and of doing exactly what you have a problem with other people doing, that’s all.

    #52199
    VietnamVet
    Participant

    On 27 Jun 2019 the last 737NG was delivered to Skymark Airlines of Japan. Boeing replaced safety with public relations. CNET says not to buy the latest Huawei flagship smart phone without google apps support. Both are intertwined. The Boeing 737 halt will likely slow down the GDP with most of its sales to Asia stopped if their regulators hold firm and it will start a recession. The rise of Boris Johnson indicates that global trade will continue to take hits. We shall see if the West can survive only as a service economy. Impossible if it is not an Empire anymore. This has to be the reason why globalist Democrats are so intent on getting rid of Donald Trump. They pine for the Clinton/Bush/Obama era back before the Right to Protect wars in 2014 ended it all and gave rise to a multi-polar world .

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