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    Vincent van Gogh Agostina Segatori Sitting in the Café du Tambourin 1887   • Trump Says Russia Isn’t A Threat To NATO (RT) • Trump Wants Ukraine
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle February 17 2025]

    #182425
    Germ
    Participant

    Good morning:-)

    Wrecked immune systems …

    “Loose Women star Andrea McLean rushed to hospital with severe pneumonia and sepsis after collapsing at home”

    https://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/loose-women-andrea-mclean-hospital-pneumonia-sepsis-b1210166.html

    TVASSF

    #182426
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “RFK Jr: The war in Ukraine is a money laundering scheme for BlackRock.”

    I was thinking about this and the larger field. London has run out of room, compounding interest, etc. But what’s really in Ukraine? The same players – possibly K-pop? Could be much wider? — are moving London to the whole Ukraine. Same banking, money laundering, offshore, drugs, power, all there, but expanded, and when seated with Europe’s largest army and resources (formerly), it would keep the POWER to direct the REST of the world’s budgets. That’s reason 2 or 3 that they need it. As new World HQ. Already CIA factory floor, as said.

    It hasn’t been lost on me that the real purpose of USAID was upper management to buy/influence the other 90% of the budget to flow under their direction. So a Ukraine – too large to unseat, too corruptly woven into all other governments – really would be the “final” seat of world power.

    So what they’re really doing when destroying Ukraine is destroying money laundering and corruption. That’s it. That’s how the America First – and their Russian twins – take back the world. What is “London” anyway? Let’s pretend K-pop doesn’t exist, all Balfour doesn’t exist, they made it all up, Marx, colonies, everything, for their own internal geopolitical directives. Zoom out to max. So what’s doing now?

    London is losing Suez Canal II to the Americans. Like 1954. They’re losing “Oceana”. If they can’t control the SUEZ, they can’t control world – or European – shipping. The only way they can do that is with the U.S., even Yemen is killing them like they’re not there. Their “Aircraft carrier” in the Med is nothing, a zero. Useless. And then about worldwide shipping, transit, banking, insurance? None of that looks good either. Thanks to themselves, Russia and the BRIICS are now self-insuring, self-banking. They’re taking it to London on all fronts. And who? AMERICA.

    What are the attacks right now by Cheeto? Gaza, cutting off Israel from claiming power in that space. That kills control of Suez v London a second time. Stopping them in Lebanon too. Ignoring Yemen and Iran. Shutting off banking and collateral in Ukraine. Threatening CANADA fiefdom of the King, Greenland, assets of that group. Hitting Starmer. Erasing the relevance of Libor. Hitting interest rates. Replacing SWIFT/Pound with XRP. Hundreds of hits, all at once. Where do they all point, really? London.

    Speaking of, what deal do we have with Gaza? All discussed, it really halts ISRAEL, puts them in limbo. What deal do we have with Iran? The one Iran already wants: no nukes (they have an official edict prohibiting) reduced arms to Hezballah, (this is already cut off bc Syria) and in return for a peace they already want and to not have a war the U.S. and Israel would lose. That is to say, IF there were a peace dictated by Tehran, it would look like the “Win” Trump is proposing (or seems to be). Same with Ukraine. IF Russia were dictating, it would look like this. U.S. out, immediately. Europe can proceed if they wish, therefore collapsing Europe altogether, and not just one part. Then NOT ONLY does Russia take all Ukraine, de facto or de jure, but Europe isn’t like 2/3 vs 1/3 concerning Russia, but 50-50 or less. It’s been substantially reduced and has to act that way, erasing (reducing) the threat.

    But all on accident, I’m sure. Trump slipped on another banana peel again.

    “What @ElonMusk is doing is truly revolutionary. As the DOGE algorithms find widespread fraud, waste, and abuse in the executive branch agencies that have been hidden from Congress for decades”

    Boards are pointing out that the DNC COULD argue for that tiny 1% of school funding lost, rural hospitals, etc. Puff it up as a crisis to mobilize the base. That’s no doubt true. But they don’t care. At all. Instead they argue for foreign aid and the job losses of Washington Bureaucrats, and expect the DNC base to support that. …And honestly, most have, but losing that minority rural/rational remnant is what loses elections.

    In addition, the base is crying to have someone to protest – as if that helps, Jesus Christ, have you learned nothing in 60 years? — but the DNC won’t direct their minions anywhere, so the minions are wandering in circles, bumping into corners like NPCs. They’re shocked, SHOCKED I say! They have to act on their own, be independent, think local, and get guns. (Kidding bout that. They claim this is a fascist coup with Hitler in charge who’s going to round up everyone one of them and kill them all. They are going to have to abandon all rule of law, start an open, violent revolution against the coup………but not with any guns. No guns, no food, no soldiers, no logistics. “Fascists don’t’ listen to protests and ignore law” they say, while fighting them by surrounding the White House with tubas. No I am not kidding.) The only possible conclusion: they don’t think it’s real in the slightest. Their minds do, but they’re not engaged and integrated to any other part of them, like the motivational part. Shouldn’t be, but it’s still astonishing, breathtaking to witness.

    Destroying their own families, if there’s anyone left not banned, WHILE saying the DNC has completely surrendered, is inept, hostile to them as the poor voting base, while STILL supporting them unto death. With no guns and no action except the Whaaaaaambulance. Wouldn’t a rational person have created a splinter party by now? What is Dore on year 12 of that? Zero interest? Where’s Celente’s “Occupy Peace”? Could not possibly hate that or their allies more.

    “Bill Clinton 1993:

    Once again Trump is a Democrat – as they all are – running on Bill Clinton’s political platform. In fact, they’re way, way, to the LEFT of Clinton, on say, Pro Gay Marriage, etc. Restraining billionaires, military, and pharmaceutical corporations.

    “False flag time?
    • Trump Wants Ukraine Ceasefire By Easter (RT)

    Just did that and everyone called it. Ze called for a “Russian false flag” and a day later, at the Munich, they ran a drone of explosives into Chernobyl.

    “• Europe & Zelensky Throw Tantrum After US Sidelines Them From Russia Talks (ZH)

    As I said yesterday, they shook off their Vance knockout and picked a plan. They have dropped billions in online media to push that Europe is going to go it alone, new Ukraine heroes, the new Nazi Churchill, etc. So we know how long it takes for their process at max speed: About 24 hours. But where they get the money? Powell has shut them all off, and USAID too. About 60-90 days money socked away there. Roths are using their own fortunes, I guess. Good. London has nothing to lose as they’re to cease to exist in weeks unless something happens.

    As said elsewhere, they’re so deep in denial – a lifetime of groupthink, executing anyone who offers intel that’s even obvious and in the stadium, like Orban – that they ACTUALLY BELIEVE Russia is collapsing, Trump doesn’t mean it, they can wait it out and win in 4 years, etc. Europe ACTUALLY BELIEVES they are important, powerful, relevant, and in charge. Okay, man. You and zero troops. Zero ships. Zero currencies. Zero credibility. Zero democracy. Zero moral standing.

    “For Scholz et el, that’s like meeting with the devil..
    • Vance Meets Leader Of ‘Firewalled’ German AfD Party Backed By Musk (RT)

    They do know a tiny tip will put AfD in, and as outsiders – mostly – they’ll do a DOGE and publish 40 years of German crimes. Because that will consolidate AfD power while making the people happy.

    “the victors of World War II thought imposing a plan of deliberate deindustrialization, depopulization, disarmament, open borders, destroyed borders would be too Carthaginian, and so we backed off. And now we’re here 80 years after the rejection of the Morgenthau Plan and the German people, or the German leadership, have essentially updated it and inflicted it on themselves willingly,”

    Well, there was coercion: just social media advertising of Bernays. But point’s the same. “Behold! A Pale Horse!” The Green Horse of Environmentalism kills more people than famine, pestilence…even war. It’s literally and truly the 4th horseman of the Apocalypse. Past tense. Like we/told/you/so, here it is, they’re still doing it and denying it.

    ““We need to encourage AI so that America is the leader in AI going forward,” Troy said, suggesting that America’s free-market system provides an advantage over competitors like China,”

    Hahahahahaaha! Free Market system! We haven’t had even the remnant of that in 50 years. Also: Why? WHY would we need to be head of AI, and nothing else? Not steel, chips, food, rail transport?

    “And a strong majority of Americans say Trump is keeping his promises, including in his efforts to reduce government spending and waste.”

    CNN was NOT happy that his approval is leaping over 51% as he…merely does what he said in campaign. That’s the bar now. Adding, again, that “Nobody voted for Musk”; yes they did. He and DOGE were on the campaign for months, fully clear of their intent.

    “Fort Knox just to make sure the 4,580 tons of US gold is there. Last time anyone looked was 50 years ago in 1974.”

    Nope. That was a hand-holding photo-op. Last audit was 1954. I suspect they will find it, not melt for tungsten, then stuff that it has 100 paper owners per bar. …And no one will believe them, but the People, and things will be as before. This is part of “Monetizing the Treasury assets”. Honestly this is just buying time in confidence as the U.S. probably has more gold than King Midas in the ground.

    #182428
    poppie
    Participant

    Thats a wrap

    #182429
    oxymoron
    Participant

    No Elon. What sounds crazy is you pushing digital id

    #182430
    oxymoron
    Participant

    I’ve been informed that London money is moving to Astana not Ukraine FWIW. Silk Road. Nicely out of the way but still Silk and Road which the merchants have loved forever.

    #182431
    zerosum
    Participant

    Influenza A

    Influenza A virus is the only species of the genus Alphainfluenzavirus of the virus family Orthomyxoviridae.
    It is a pathogen with strains that infect birds and some mammals, as well as causing seasonal flu in humans.
    ————-
    As the DOGE algorithms find widespread fraud, waste, and abuse in the executive branch agencies that have been hidden from Congress for decades—it will allow us to restore the original intent of our Constitution: a leaner, more efficient, and more accountable federal government that is kept in check by the legislative branch.
    ———
    Trump on DOGE: “We literally started off with 14 or 15 young geniuses. Now we have 100 young geniuses. And what’s happened…People are calling up from all over the country wanting to help Elon Musk.”
    ———-
    • Trump Says Russia Isn’t A Threat To NATO (RT)

    Trump believes what Putin truly wants for his country is to “stop fighting.”
    “They’ve been fighting for a long time.
    They’ve done it before… They have a big, powerful machine.
    They defeated Hitler and they defeated Napoleon,”

    • Europe & Zelensky Throw Tantrum After US Sidelines Them From Russia Talks (ZH)
    France said it will host a summit of European leaders on Monday to discuss the Russia–Ukraine war and European security.
    ———-
    Russian President Vladimir Putin has previously indicated that Moscow would be open to an immediate ceasefire and peace talks if Ukraine withdrew its troops from the Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson, and Zaporozhye regions, which formally joined Russia following referendums in 2022.
    ————
    “Democratic procedures in many EU countries have become window dressing. They have long been forgotten..”
    ————-
    With Elon Musk’s team at DOGE – including a gent who goes by the name “Big Balls” – investigating government-wide waste, fraud and abuse, we thought it might be helpful to point them towards Fort Knox… The suggestion immediately went viral on X, with Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) indicating he’s on board – replying to Musk with “Let’s do it.” Musk and team need to get to the bottom of just how deep the rot goes…
    ———–

    #182432
    Formerly T-Bear
    Participant

    As reply to comment 16/02/2025:
    February 16, 2025 at 11:39 pm#182398Reply

    CitizenX,
    Is it a reading disorder that provides you with that response? Only Donald J. Trump was ever indicated in my comment. How do you go from there to presidential pathologies. You must live in LaLaLand,U.S.A. under fair and equal rules to think your depiction of the first unelected occupant of the white House as my choice; I was only referring to Trump., pointing out another delusion of your writing. . What are you trying to prove?
    Your shrieking accusations of my political support are gratuitous nonsense based on no factual information in your possession; a statement of jejune maturity of kindergarten level. How long into your adulthood has this condition persisted? The prior administration stopped munitions supply to Israel, the golden Gollum opened the floodgates without any evidence that restraint will be shown, in Gaza, in Lebanon, in Syria, or any where else. To believe mass murders will not ensue marks the believer as a grand fool.
    The rest of your comment consists of garbage generated by one who’s horizons match a well digger at bottom of his task – basically non-existent. You qualify as an ass, do take remedial reading comprehension.

    I tend not to suffer fools graciously. Avoid reply through careful consideration and analysis of what was said and make your reply commensurate. Don’t ever put in words that were not there, it is a simple courtesy.

    #182433
    Dora
    Participant

    Orf. Too funny.

    #182434
    poppie
    Participant

    formerly t bear
    Your first comment was pretty good. You ended it with a statement worded to imply that the death and destruction would start with trump. Something we have learned to expect from assholes.
    Citizenx reply was appropriate and filled with information and analysis.
    Your reply looks pretty low. Please have a loved one check your meds.

    #182435
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Another painting of Agostina Segatori, owner of the Café du Tambourin at 62 Boulevard de Clichy in Paris, painted around 15 or 20 years prior to Van Gogh’s painting.


    La Lecture interrompue (Interrupted Reading)
    Jean Baptiste Camille Corot

    #182436
    The Markster
    Participant

    Wow, this Goldfinger/Fort Knox and Federal Reserve audit idea is really something. Will it be the audit that is a step too far, even for Trump? Are they furiously trying to fill the coffers again right now, or is it just more banker shenanigans?

    Good thing I’ve got a huge popcorn stockpile! Bring it!

    #182439
    those darned kids
    Participant

    fort knox is filled with hard knocks,
    empty promises and an empty box.
    all the gold meant for you,
    was given to a sheik or two.
    so if you look for that wealth,
    you know it’s not for yourself.
    the money fled; it’s gone you see,
    for you, the best things in life are free.

    #182440
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #182441
    zerosum
    Participant

    Dam it!
    Two # 1 Problems. Money that don’t exist $36 Trillion and invisible gold.

    #182442
    jb-hb
    Participant

    “Trump is angry. And using power. Oh no, that is ick. So icky. [insert word salads of mouth sounds whose definitions have been wholly abandoned or contradicted, but imply a repetition of ‘ick:’ low social value, unclean, taboo.]”

    AT LAST someone is even remotely close to sufficiently angry and using power at all. Finally. And thank goodness, with some form of common sense and due process.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7ORFsrQyCM
    (only 46 seconds long, but it’s a good 46 seconds)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7ORFsrQyCM

    #182443
    Dora
    Participant

    Matt Taibbi:
    CBS Loses Its Mind
    Two days after J.D. Vance’s historic address to Europe on speech, CBS and 60 Minutes offer a counterattack
    https://www.racket.news/p/cbs-loses-its-mind

    #182444
    those darned kids
    Participant

    i wish we could dam the money, zero.
    unfortunately, it seems to have damned us.

    #182445
    jb-hb
    Participant

    “The 50 states, 50 protests, one day protest, also known as the 50501 Movement, are against Trump’s actions during his first few weeks back in the White House”

    Blue squares showing up to protest. Just keep protesting.

    You’ve been revealed to be hypocrites, inverting all your own ideas, and most importantly, the things you believe were funded with hundreds of billions of dollars through every outlet and astroturf by a giant machine!!!

    No pause? No fear? Shouldn’t there be, I don’t know, some horror that every sound coming out of your own mouth for the past 10 years was driven by a multi-trillion dollar machine made of all the bad things?

    Have they internalized Pragmatism™? Anything that does not serve the cause is useless and frivolous, to be done away with, anything that advances the cause is Pragmatic™?

    Is this just an object lesson that, on a long enough time scale, having stripped all words of meaning “The Cause” drops all underlying meaning? It would HAVE to, wouldn’t it, if every underlying thing got inverted, triple-inverted, hollowed out? Dropping principles for principles and fucking for virginity.

    https://i0.wp.com/www.barnhardtmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/img_2422-1.jpg?resize=768%2C437&ssl=1

    https://i0.wp.com/www.barnhardtmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/img_2328-1.jpg?w=690&ssl=1

    #182446
    those darned kids
    Participant

    i know i’ve made my best decisions when i’m angry.

    #182447
    jb-hb
    Participant

    This was the moral calculation I thought was totally, completely foolish and wrong when I heard Christian conservatives of decades past saying it. Then I see modern blue square women saying it and I pause, try to think some way out of it. Ah fuck.

    They’re saying the true things aloud as an underhanded stratagem? Due to all the inversion, got a little lost there?

    https://i0.wp.com/www.barnhardtmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/img_2455-1.jpg?w=750&ssl=1

    #182448
    Noirette
    Participant

    on GOLD, Rand Paul, Fort Knox. (at top post.)

    Gordon Brown + Gold was a Huge Scandal back in the day — Idk what really took place.

    In 1999, one of the most significant and controversial financial decisions in British history took place. The Labour Party, under Chancellor Gordon Brown, initiated the sale of nearly half of the United Kingdom’s gold reserves at a time when gold prices were near a multi-decade low. This sale, now infamously referred to as “Brown’s Bottom,” was carried out at what would soon be recognised as the very bottom of the gold market, just before the precious metal’s price rallied for the following decade.
    The decision to sell 395 tonnes of gold has sparked endless debates, conspiracies, and criticism over the years. From accusations of market manipulation to concerns over the decision’s political motives, the story behind the UK’s gold sale is a complex one. Below, we explore the reasons behind the sale, the controversy surrounding it, and the broader implications that continue to resonate as we look to explain the real reason Brown sold the Gold.

    https://auronum.co.uk/the-browns-bottom-gold-sale/

    Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999%E2%80%932002_sale_of_United_Kingdom_gold_reserves

    #182449
    jb-hb
    Participant

    i know i’ve made my best decisions when i’m angry.

    If I imagine you saying this while getting kicked in the crotch and having your mother insulted for the past 4 hours while on an overdose of prozac and a T count of 0.000000001, in that scenario it makes sense.

    #182450
    jb-hb
    Participant

    And maybe they shot your crotch up with Novocaine but gave you a Valium-spiked soy latte — so you stand there looking down your nose, sneerily, condescendingly talking down to me:

    “i know <oof!> i’ve <oof!> made my best <sneer-oof!> decisions when i’m <sneer-oof!> angry.”

    Or turn it around. They’re screaming insults about your mother and kicking your crotch and you don’t feel superior about it, aren’t drugged to the gills with prozac, don’t have too low of a T count, but your’e just trembling with self-restraint because you’re angry – mustn’t act on anger, no never, that’s The Ick. Better wait until your’e NOT angry.

    Your school teachers, your HOA and HR ladies, your congresswomen, your news anchors, your single mother, everyone TOLD you it was The Ick. So you do nothing.

    Its’ quite instructive, your response — for 1000th the crimes that have been uncovered, EVERYONE in the law enforcement and ethics chain should be angry. QUITE so.

    So I explained how The Ick was fake, it’s mechanics and use — and your post was essentially:

    “NO! It is The Ick. It is, it is!”

    #182451
    Formerly T-Bear
    Participant

    February 17, 2025 at 2:44 pm#182434

    If someone wants to edit, twist, modify or in any other way change something I have written to expound their ideas in a way that I have not written or intended it is not only offensive but acts to place my words in a light that may be unfavourable or damaging to my reputation. Is that above your level of understanding? If you cannot write for yourself then start cutting and pasting from the internet. Do not mess with what I write. How many died in Syria under Trump 45, how much oil was stolen, how much grain was taken from Syrian bakers. Were any Israeli airstrikes halted in that administration. I do not expect Trump 47 to be different, you obviously may.

    #182452
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Zelensky Is In A Very Bad Position – Tara Reade (RT)

    Zelensky on the sidelines.

    Stańczyk, by Jan Matejko, 1862
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sta%C5%84czyk_(painting)

    #182453
    those darned kids
    Participant

    that’s really weird.

    #182454
    WES
    Participant

    Why Is Trump At War With The CIA?:

    Under Biden, the CIA was under the control of the international bankers.

    We know this because Biden implemented many policies against the best interests of Americans!
    Like, open borders, DEI, ESG, MSM control, censoring, cancelling, BLM roits, stiirring race wars, starting war in Ukraine, etc
    Then the media tried to make all of these policies appear perfectly normal.
    So, America was being used by the international bankers and CIA, just like Ukraine!

    Trump has to fight the CIA both at home and abroad, (mostly in Europe).

    It is the CIA that says Russia is our enemy!
    It is the CIA that tells us Iran wants the nuclear bomb when it does not!

    Remember it was the CIA that told us North Korea was our enemy!
    Trump put an end to that boggie man!

    Trump wants to normalize relations with both countries to put the CIA out of business!

    Trump was probably able to get re-elected because some folks on Wall Street wanted to regain control of the CIA and it’s international banker allies.

    As Dr. D says there is an epic battle taking place against the current Biden CIA and their international banker allies.

    Trump is trying to hurt them by attacking their international money flows.
    Musk is attacking the CIA’s domestic funding flows.
    Without sufficient money flows, their power quickly weakens or disappears!

    #182455
    Dr. D
    Participant

    ” Von Trapp Family Crosses The Alps Into Switzerland To Escape Free Speech” –BBee

    ItsaVonTrapp

    #182456
    Dr. D
    Participant

    It’s a Von Trapp!!!

    “The Hills are Alive, with the Sounds of Silence….”

    #182457
    WES
    Participant

    Fort Knox:

    NOTE: To who it may it concern:

    Being sound of mind, I spent it all!

    Riddle:
    Q: Why do you double the number of Guards at Fort Knox?
    A: To convince people it is not empty!

    #182458
    WES
    Participant

    London Gold Leaving:

    If Dr. D is correct that London bankers may cease to exist shortly, then it makes perfect sense that Wall Street insiders are emptying London of all of it’s gold, that isn’t nailed down, and that they can pry loose!

    Think of gold, as the rats leaving a rotten ship about to sink!
    All is fine, until it isn’t!

    #182459
    those darned kids
    Participant

    #182460
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #182461
    WES
    Participant

    Congress Replacing Annual Budgets With Continuing Resolutions:

    Under Obama, Chicago style corruption reached Washington DC.
    In an effort to make congress’s grift more efficient, annual budgets were replaced with Continuing Resolutions.

    With annual budgets, all members of congress had to fight each year, to add their grift to the annual budge bill!

    Now, under Continuing Resoltions, where last years budget automatically becomes the baseline from which the new Continuing Resolution starts.
    The nice feature of the Continuing Resolution, for congress critters, is that prior years grifts are locked in and automatically roll over each year!
    So no more fighting to get last year’s grift into the new current year!

    The only fighting now, is to add more new grifts to the Continuing Resolutions!
    So, naturally the amount of grift starts automatically compounding each year!
    Who says congress critters, don’t understand the power of grift compounding into their pockets!

    So it is very likely that carefully crafted grifts are still paying into the pockets of long retired congress critters to this very day!
    So, an extra Tax free life long private retirement pension, to speak!

    #182462
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    The three secretest secrets in the world are where is Jimmy Hoffa, where is all of the gold stashed, and who owns it.

    #182463
    WES
    Participant

    D.B. Smith:

    Did dr. jill take Joe Biden’s 6 foot double, home with her?

    #182464
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @WES

    Did dr. jill take Joe Biden’s 6 foot double, home with her?

    That’s what I understand. Turns out she had an iron clad “repair-replace” warranty clause written into their prenuptial agreement.

    #182465
    those darned kids
    Participant

    given the sordid biden family’s history of sordid sordidness, i imagine lady macbiden actually took hunter home with her.

    she has seen all the pics, you know.

    #182466
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @ThoseDarnedKids “i imagine lady macbiden actually took hunter home with her.”

    Yeah, sort like how the shop can give you a “loaner” to drive while they’re working on your regular car.

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