Debt Rattle January 13 2023
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Dr D: Now you know why the farms in Arizona are polite but annoyed about why no water’s reaching them anymore. Choices like this
And the climate change folks here want to “solve” the problem of a few big players over-drawing wells by extending the regulations that govern wells in the most populated areas of AZ to the entire state. They believe that this will help the tiny properties relying on wells. It is hard enough (and costly) in rural AZ to drill a well in the first place — in most areas the water is very deep. Big players over-drawing wells needs to be addressed, but it needs to be done in a way that addresses the problem directly, not by restricting ground water access in the entire state to only those (with deep pockets) who can navigate an expensive permitting process. (Expensive permits often ultimately serve the interests the big players.)@DBS: Maybe it’s the “dawning of the Age of Aquarius”…
What would be the “darkest-before-the-dawn” moment, I wonder…The weaknesses of Deep Underground Military Bases (DUMBS and converted salt mines, etc.) are very much like the weaknesses of policy based on lies. They work fine until they are found out. After that they become first a cyst and then a grave.
DUMBS are just as much exit proof as they are entry proof. Maybe more so. Find and block the access and egress and it’s game over for everyone stuck underground. Same goes for the water, power, air and communication with the outside world.
The only difference between a DUMB and a crypt is information. Once an adversary knows where the keys are what looked at first as an impregnable escape suddenly starts looking more like a mass burial
Same goes for policy based on secrets. When people find out that THE SECRET has been that our government does, indeed, explicitly and as a matter of policy and law, murder its undesirable citizens on purpose and in windrows . . . . it starts looking less like a legitimate law and starts looking more like an unforgiveable confession.
Exits to the DUMBs and interconnecting the DUMBs would surely be integral to their construction. With an interconnected network – with many exits/entrances and tunnels being secret by design, I think they will be feeling fairly secure about egress if needed.
Various maps that have been floating around the doom-o-sphere suggest many widely-separated exits
The more disturbing notion:
Remember Biosphere?
Some of my favorite scifi authors have, as a pet issue, the difficulty of humans creating a sustainable environment off-planet (Verner Vinge’s Deepness in the Sky, Wil McCarthy’s Collapsium series, etc)
Destruction of the biosphere has always been a restraint on what the Masters of the Universe are willing to go through with. The many spent nuclear fuel pools around the globe act as a kind of protective deadman switch for us common people. Bad management will have bad consequences for the managers.
UNLESS they decide they have figured out long, LONG term biosphere balance. If they decided they’ve got that problem licked, then they can decide the DUMBs ARE the world and write off topside as expendable.
Like dumb Management everywhere, as soon as there’s a shiny new concept or tech that PROMISES this along with middle managers in charge of the project looking to advance, effusively telling upper management YES you can have the Dream — I do worry sometimes they will decide they have the biosphere problem licked when actually they don’t.
@JohnDay
You asked, “Maybe it’s the “dawning of the Age of Aquarius”…
What would be the “darkest-before-the-dawn” moment, I wonder… “?I’ve never been real big on prophecy except in the broadest sense. And of course the devil is so often in the details. In my own experience by the time I firmly grip precisely and exactly what’s going to happen next there is not much that I can do about it except duck and cover.
In other words, my inadequacy seems always to be that of details and timing. . . . so I do the best I can in the broad sense, and prepare to duck and cover on very short notice.
Getting back to your question of , “What would be the “darkest-before-the-dawn” moment, I wonder…”
I can only reflect on my own experience of those darkest moments, and note that they all contained a particular element that was always there in some form and always the same in its essence. It was the moment that I was forced, by reality, to admit that I had been hanging on to a falsehood, a mistake, or a lie, or bad deed, and that the only way out of the downward spiral was to face the truth and stick with it despite anticipated consequences. Not a good feeling, actually. And not a situation I would seek out willingly. Nevertheless, so far it has worked each time.It will probably get me killed one of these days, but it better hurry because I’m old enough now that Nature’s built-in escape clause is already past due and could be invoked without further notice at any time. Cheat the firing squad, that’s my motto.
@Bocohorowitz: “According to a release from his family, the 78-year-old musician died suddenly after contracting bacterial meningitis.”
@DBS: Thanks for the thoughts about the “darkest before the dawn” moment of capitulation.
On tap for Colorado: Turning sewage into drinking water, directly to your faucets.
“direct potable reuse — the process of treating sewage and sending it directly to taps“
Colorado’s water quality agency gave unanimous preliminary approval [and later gave final approval on November 14, 2022] to regulate direct potable reuse — the process of treating sewage and sending it directly to taps without first being dispersed in a larger water body.
Colorado to reuse water for drinking, creating new supply
https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/colorado-recycled-sewage-reuse-water-drinking-creating-new-supply/State okays use of treated wastewater for drinking
By Ken Pletcher
Published Nov. 16, 2022
State okays use of treated wastewater for drinkingOn Nov. 14, the state’s Water Quality Control Commission (WQCC) members gave final approval to regulations that pave the way for treated wastewater from sanitation districts to be used as drinking water. The measure had won unanimous provisional approval by the commissioners at its October meeting. The WQCC is the administrative agency under the Colorado Department of Public Health & Environment that is “responsible for developing specific water quality policy” in the state.
The process is known as direct potable reuse (DPR)…
https://soprissun.com/state-okays-use-of-treated-wastewater-for-drinking/
No Deep-underground-Military-Base for me, though I have never been offered such an option, anyway.
I’ll die on the surface, like most people.Re: piping treated wastewater/sewage directly to household faucets,
I wonder if the treatment processes are 100% effective, and 100% reliable during power outages, at removing the risks from all those pathogens (like the Covid viruses) and pharmaceuticals (psychiatric drugs, antibiotics, etc.) that are found in wastewater.
I don’t want to assign the death vaxx to every vascular incident, but …..
BBC Formula One presenter Jennie Gow says she has had a serious stroke
45 yo
TVASF
Agree that DUMBs are putative graves. I fail completely to understand why anyone would want to live in a society, on a planet, which has destroyed its ability to support much if any human life of any quality, and yet it seems that this is where so much geopolitical activity is heading. It’s all fundamentally insane. Don’t look for any Noah’s Arks in this era. There’s no hiding place.
@John Day
“I’ll die on the surface, like most people.”
Me too, please. If the crazies in the various basements around the world throw even ONE nuke in any direction, given the evident groupthink among the elites, that is likely to trigger a cascade of more nukes. We’re all vividly aware of that possibility — but what about the crazies in the DUMBs?recycled water that, on every passthrough, adds more psychiatric meds, birth control drugs, heart medication, and spike protein to my drinking and showering water. Great.
Fears raised over bird to human transmission of avian flu sparking new pandemic
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/fears-raised-over-bird-human-28941057
Yes! – Let’s “Raise some F-E-A-R”
TVASF
Say, wasn’t good ol’ Elon into high speed tunnel drilling there for a while? Odd thing for a guy who builds rocket ships and twitter birds.
Former MLB outfielder Lee Tinsley dead at 53
https://nypost.com/2023/01/13/former-mlb-outfielder-lee-tinsley-dead-at-53/
TVASF
In the Next Pandemic, Let’s Pay People to Get Vaccinated
Data from Sweden and the US suggests cash incentives increase uptake without denting people’s trust in vaccines or future willingness to get them.
https://www.wired.com/story/lets-pay-people-to-get-vaccinated/
Oh sure – the “next” pandemic.
What utter tosh!TVASF
It has long been understood that, in the event of nuclear war, nukes will be reserved on a delayed timer to automatically nuke any survivors emerging to rebuild. 10 years, 25 years, 50 years, 100 years. Whenever they have calculated is “optimal.”
So anyone going ahead with global thermonuclear war WOULD be, intrinsic to the decision, giving up on the surface of the planet.
aw it didn’t upload. Anyway, drawing a line through the peaks in 2021-2022 and extending the chart, we end up with 3.25hr wait times by 2023 and 5.25hr wait times by 2024.
The ghost of H.G. Wells must be chortling away somewhere, because it has only taken humankind 125 years to suss out the REAL origin story of his “Morlocks”. They weren’t former humans who had gone underground to dodge meteorites from a failed moon-colonization-gone-wrong . They were WEFers hiding from pissed off peasants and Russian nukes.
Pretty smart dude, old Herbert.Ezixa1949 is dying with me on the surface. Anybody else?
What are the underground cities all over good for?
Can they re-seed America after nuclear war? How about after bad space-weather?
Anything else?
What about the seed quality?I confess, as a kid, I was excited by the prospect of living in an underground arcology just as God and Isaac Asimov intended.
Watching docudramas for entertainment, commuting on a series of impossibly-fast treadmills, every product I use being nuclear powered no matter how unnecessary, etc. Those golden age scifi guys made it sound really cool.
I suppose self-sufficient underground arcologies could let humans master the art of living in cities together while having minimal impact on the surface-biosphere as well as protect against various potential disasters.
One of the first novels I ever read (that didn’t come out of my own home) was about a nuclear-powered arcology functioning underneath miles of ice during the next ice age. The first novel I ever read being The Hobbit, there was a mental connection made to the halls of the elven-king in Mirkwood, the dwarven kingdom under The Mountain. I pictured it as people trying artfully to make it really WORK, hitting distinctive aesthetic and artistic highs, not living like rats in tiny tunnels having been crushed, homogenized, enslaved, and taken down to the lowest common denominator on purpose.
It’s too bad because of sociopaths and cluster-b’s we can’t have cool fun things.
Whence the Morlocks?
DBS- Boring Company is the name of Musk’s tunnel venture. They’re under Vegas, I think, and he was going to try California but people questioned the wisdom of it, what with that earthquake problem.
I might buy one of these, too, if I had a billion to spend on a toy. Heck, I’d buy a few in case one breaks!
This guy is going to be destroyed in the media.
A Consultant Cardiologist, double vaxxed himself, spent 2 years on UK TV promoting this rat juice.
Questioning it is not allowed!
BBC criticised for letting cardiologist ‘hijack’ interview with false Covid jab claim
“Experts have criticised Dr Aseem Malhotra’s appearance on the corporation’s news channel on Friday, accusing him of pushing “extreme fringe” views, which are “misguided”, “dangerous” and could mislead the public.”
This is gold-plated gas-lighting.
Haha – he is the fucking expert!TVASF
It has long been understood that, in the event of nuclear war, nukes will be reserved on a delayed timer to automatically nuke any survivors emerging to rebuild. 10 years, 25 years, 50 years, 100 years. Whenever they have calculated is “optimal.”
In the Postman both sides launch orbiting missiles that will nuke anything broadcasting a radio signal for as long as the missiles will stay in orbit.
Nope, Substack links still won’t upload past the AI censorship filters. Spaces between “dot” and “com” again… https://drjohnsblog.substack. com/p/cia-did-watergate
I see a scaffolding being erected, which could soon present a “limited hang-out” to close the book on the death-jabs, COVID gain-of-function research origins, and the Ukraine War, including all the bioweapons labs there. This moment in history sees the $US empire, which extracts wealth from the world by selling $US for other-people’s-oil and nice things, on the edge of the cliff, which leads to its fall from global-reserve-currency status.
The global owners-of-everything, our shadowy-puppet-masters, who own and control western banking, finance and central banking, are being served by imperial courtiers who can scarcely change direction. This will be a time requiring quick negotiation and quick directional changes, since there are so many concurrent crises.
It will be useful to lay blame, change management, and dive into the crises which are the fault-of-the-fallen. Joe Biden will have to take blame, for things he won’t remember, Adam Schiff is being demoted, and Tony Fauci has retired-except-for-cameo-appearances.The expeditious thing for the-owners to do will be to have the Republican Congress arrange a Church-Committee about the CIA, publicly chastize the CIA, accept resignations, do the same with the Biden-Crime-Family, figure out a new VP for “President Harris”, replace the military hierarchy, who will also “admit mistakes”, and negotiate defeat in Ukraine.
This needs to precede the negotiations to step the $US down to just-another-currency, while harming the owner’s property interests as little as possible. It’s going to be thorny, and it looks like people will keep dying-suddenly for the foreseeable future.Alternatively, things can be much, much more chaotic than that. Probably some owners disagree with other owners.
What puppet wants to take a publicly humiliating fall? Do any of them have any choice about following orders?Oliver Stone turns-in the CIA; rehabilitates Richard Nixon:
A stunning, long-overlooked Nixon Watergate-era tape shows Richard Nixon warning CIA Director Richard Helms that he knows of CIA involvement in the murder of John F. Kennedy- “I know who shot John.”
This shocking new tape depicts Nixon increasingly besieged by Watergate but unaware that at least four of the Watergate burglars were still on the CIA payroll at the time of the break-in, and that the CIA had thus infiltrated the burglary team. Recently declassified documents reveal that Watergate Special Prosecutor Nick Akerman was aware of both the CIA’s advance knowledge and involvement in the break-in — but said and did nothing.
Senator Howard Baker, the Republican Leader on the Senate Watergate Committee and his counsel Fred Thompson himself, a future U.S. Senator from Tennessee, like Baker, stumbled on the CIA’s deep advanced knowledge and direct involvement in the Watergate break-in. Baker and Thompson both knew that at least four of the Watergate burglars were on the CIA payroll at the time of the break-in and that through CREEP Security Director James McCord, had infiltrated the burglary team. Senate Watergate Committee Chairman Sam Ervin stoutly refused to allow Baker and the Committee Republicans including Edward J. Gurney of Florida the right to publish a Minority Report which noted this stunning information regarding the CIA...
..White House Domestic Policy Chief John Ehrlichman wrote that when he served as the White House Legal Counsel, Nixon ordered him to request that the CIA hand over all documents pertaining to John Kennedy’s murder. Nixon was furious when Richard Helms, the CIA Director, refused his presidential order to hand them over.
This stunning new Watergate-era tape captures an increasingly besieged Nixon desperately seeking to mobilize the CIA in his defense by threatening to expose their greatest secrets. Nixon also knew that Congressman Gerald Ford, as a member of the Warren Commission, had, at the explicit direction of J. Edgar Hoover, the FBI Director, altered the official autopsy diagram for President John F. Kennedy; moving the marking from a bullet in his upper back to his neck in order to accommodate the single-bullet theory and to conceal the fact that Kennedy had been hit with more than the reported three shots. Nixon was acutely aware of Ford’s act of treachery in concealing the truth about Kennedy’s murder and the CIA’s involvement in it. White House Chief of Staff General Alexander Haig told me in an interview that “Nixon had Ford by the balls.” The five-star General said, “Nixon had me tell Ford that if he (Nixon) was going down, he was taking everybody with him.”
https://rogerstone.substack. com/p/nixon-threatened-to-reveal-the-cias More classified records from Vice President Biden (not able to declassify) have shown up in boxes from the garage where he kept his Corvette parked, a garage in a house owned by Hunter Biden, according to other legal documents, in boxes which may be the ones seen in a video of Joe and his Vette, at the end, when he pulls into the garage. It’s all here. There is now a special investigator.
“The President just said that the documents found in his garage are in a ‘locked garage’ like his corvette,” Turley said. “The corvette standard is actually not in classified protocols…”
https://thekylebecker.substack. com/p/explosive-new-report-links-hunter Moon of Alabama (Germany) wonders: “Why Didn’t Biden Just Burn Those Classified Documents?
The story was kept under the wraps for more than two months. Biden’s lawyers, who allegedly found the documents, informed the National Archive which took possession them the next day. It then informed the Attorney General who assigned a U.S. attorney and involved the FBI.
That is at least how the story is told.
But I am curious on how much back and forth there was between Biden’s lawyers and the White House after the find. That the lawyers did not ask Biden or his handlers how to proceed with the documents before informing the National Archive can be excluded. The alleged find was easy to hide. The National Archive is said to not have known anything about the documents. The lawyers were bound by their attorney client privilege that would have prohibited them from talking about the issue.
By informing the National Archive, which then involved others, it was made inevitable that someone would let the media know about this.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/01/why-didnt-biden-just-burn-those-classified-documents.html Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) and staff repeatedly pushed Twitter to remove perfectly legal content that they found offensive, according to Friday’s installment of “The Twitter Files.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/twitter-files-expose-how-demsmedia-defied-twitter-facts-spread-russian-bot-hoaxAs per The Empire of Lies general strategy of expending energy and resources to prop up Ponzi schemes -thereby making everything that matters worse faster- we should note that when the prospect of water delivery systems from Lake Mead to Las Vegas looked likely to fail, the strategy adopted was to construct another ‘straw’ at a lower level, thus allowing further sacrificing of the water table in order to prop up the casino heart of Airstrip Two just a little longer.
Of course, the original assessment of the region, done in the early 1900s by the Department of Reclamation, presented the controllers with the ‘wrong answer’, i.e. that the region was ‘naturally arid and was unsuitable for development’. That [scientific] assessment was totally unacceptable to controllers, who then set about constructing systems -the Hoover Dam and its associated infrastructure- in an to attempt to defy the laws of mathematics, chemistry and physics.
Institutional insanity is not a new phenomenon. Nor are corruption in high office and lying. All three go back at least a century. Indeed, the entire house-of-cards set of systems we have been enduring was constructed on the basis of institutionalised insanity, high-level corruption and blatant lies.
Thus, we cannot be at all surprised when the controllers attempt to foist toxic jabs onto the populace and described those toxic jabs as ‘safe and effective’; we cannot be at all surprised that controllers attempt to foist completely false narratives concerning Ukraine on the populace and describe them as ‘heroic defence of democracy’; we cannot be at all surprised when the controllers tell us that ‘inflation is temporary and has peaked’; we cannot be at all surprised when the controllers tell us that ‘electric cars are emission-free and sustainable’.
Everything said and done in The Empire of Lies is a either a blatant lie or is founded on a lie. Everything, from creation of money to ‘measurements’ of economic activity to ‘unemployment numbers’ to ‘education’ to ‘healthcare’ to ‘defence’ to so=called planning. All of it. All fabrications and lies.
That is difficult for most people to get their heads around.
Yet that is exactly why it is called The Empire of Lies. And it is why Russia (indeed 88% of the world) is thoroughly sick of the antics of The Empire of Lies and recognises it all has to be stopped mighty soon.
The problem for those opposing the agendas of The Empire of Lies is that The Empire of Lies established a very strong economic and military base on the basis of lies, so it was difficult for those opposing the lies to fight back effectively.
That changed in 2008, when Russia successfully opposed the agenda of The Empire of Lies in Georgia. Further evidence of the declining power of The Empire of Lies came when Russia succeeded in countering the Empire of Lies agenda in Syria. The Syrian battlefront has taken a backseat to Ukraine for the moment.
By the way, it is interesting that during World War Two, both Airstrip One and Airstrip Two had War Departments. Once that war to defend the fascist states of Oceania from the activities of rival fascists states had been won, the War Departments used to attack other nations were renamed Defence or Defense. Thus, we see that it was after WW2 that incipient Oceania went fully Orwellian.
Interestingly, that fully Orwellian transition corresponded with the publishing of ‘1984’ (in 1948).
1948 was the year that the football t(soccer) team of the USSR -enthusiastic to foster good relations with its allies– had its tour of Airstrip One cancelled by the controllers of Airstrip One. That was the opening salvo of the attempt by Oceania to break the USSR (Euraisa) via the Berlin Crisis.
Global finance explained with adequate historical details: Things We Should Understand: The Aristocracy Is Eating the Peasants
https://rubino.substack. com/p/things-we-should-understand-the-aristocracy Russia Accuses Sweden Of “Hiding Something” About The Nord Stream Sabotage (Russia may have solid evidence now)
In September 2022, leaks were found in the Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines, leaks that were caused by explosions that Sweden investigated.
Sweden’s investigation concluded it was likely the result of “serious sabotage”, and now Russia is complaining that Sweden won’t share its findings.
Last year, Russia accused the UK Navy of being involved in the explosions that put the Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines out of commission...
..Russia criticized Sweden’s refusal to share information about the findings of the investigation with Russia, and Zakharova said that “Russian experts in the course of an objective investigation may come to uncomfortable conclusions and, finally, reveal to the public the ugly truth about who committed these acts of sabotage and terrorist attacks,” as carried by Russian news agency TASS.
“The hiding of facts is evidence of the obvious: the Swedish authorities are hiding something,” Zakharova added.
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Russia-Accuses-Sweden-Of-Hiding-Something-About-The-Nord-Stream-Sabotage.html7 Facts Fauci Knew But Hid From the Public
House Republicans on Monday commissioned a special investigative panel focused on the coronavirus pandemic during which they hope to press scientists and federal officials, including Dr. Anthony Fauci, about the origin of the public health crisis and the government’s response to it...
1) Fauci understood that American tax dollars went to EcoHealth Alliance and that money was then funneled to the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) lab in China.
2) Fauci knew EcoHealth Alliance was given an exemption from the pause on gain-of-function research.
3) Fauci knew that the security standards at the WIV lab in China were deficient.
4) Fauci knew that EcoHealth Alliance was not in compliance with its grant reporting requirements and wasn’t adhering to the contract.
5) Fauci knew that gain-of-function research was in fact being conducted in
the WIV lab in China.
6) Fauci knew that the standard P3CO interagency review process wasn’t followed in approving the grant to EcoHealth Alliance.
7) Fauci knew that the virus likely came from the lab where U.S. taxpayer dollars were sent … the very city where that lab is, as a deadly virus breaks out that would ultimately kill six million people around the world. Peter McCullough MD , Massive Clot Burden Days after Taking Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine
Many thought initially that the Johnson and Johnson (Janssen) product would be safer since it was just one shot of an adenoviral vector vaccine (not mRNA). Unfortunately before COVID-19 it was known that the vector itself was thrombogenic. So combined with the genetic code for the Spike protein which is known to damage blood vessels and cause blood clots, the Janssen vaccine was expected to cause thromboembolism in patients from the very date of its release. Woo et al from the NIH in a report has described thousands (N=3790, 11% fatal) of patients with blood clots and their description of what happens in the human body is nothing short of “blood curdling.” Clots going from the ankle to the groin, shooting to both lungs, and killing the victim is a description out of a science fiction horror movie yet in this report produced by our own government gives no apologies nor raises a sense of alarm for the public...
..I wonder if a similar analysis for the mRNA vaccines would find the same degree of clot burden. In my clinical experience the mRNA and adenoviral vaccines are equally dangerous. As in the Woo report, the events with Janssen appear occur in a shorter time window (median 12 days) in proximity to the injection whereas the long lasting mRNA can drive catastrophic events months later.
https://petermcculloughmd.substack. com/p/massive-clot-burden-days-after-taking Thanks Jeremy. What could it be? : Japan’s Experts Baffled by High ‘Covid’ Deaths From Heart Problems Despite High Vaccination Rate
Japan’s Experts Baffled by High ‘Covid’ Deaths From Heart Problems Despite High Vaccination Rate
Yes, more that you already saw here today…
Thanks again, Jeremy. “Suckers Finally Offered Even Break”, Moderna:
Moderna begins trialing mRNA shot that is injected directly into the HEART to treat heart attack patients
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11627695/Moderna-begins-trialing-mRNA-shot-injected-directly-HEART.htmlScience gets spike-protein to grow in lettuce, along with other proteins to allow the intestines to absorb it into the bloodstream intact. Thanks Doc Robinson:
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/pbi.13993Some stuff about GPTChat/GPT3 – PART 4 of 4
What’s the solution they will reach for?
Well, they’ll already be using AI. The solution to AI problems is more AI. Naturally, they’ll want AI to help them determine, of all the things occurring in reality, what IS relevant to focus on. And then help them determine what best actions to take.
And of course you can see where this is going. Upper management will get better and better results the more they take themselves out of the loop in terms of actively perceiving reality and making decisions. And now you’ve got the AI increasingly deciding what is important and what to do about it.
And where IS the Change-Of-Phase line drawn between AI assistance and AI-controlled? When does steam become water, so to speak? They can’t know, but maybe they can ask their AI to determine the safety-line for them.And in any case, your middle managers will goalseek your data to show you how they’re doing such a great job pointing your AI in the right direction for you. So the safety margin isn’t as useful as you think it is. Great job, guys.
(Has the phase change already occurred? Would they even know?)
And if the stuff currently being done by The Powers That Be, (T.P.T.B.), “Them”, seem inflexible, insistent, irrational… IF you could sit one of them down and ask them, “WTF, bro?”, I think they would tell you “Look, we’ve wargamed it. We’ve modeled it. We put all our best AI and thinktanks on this. You don’t have ANY of the godlike stuff we are applying to the situation. We KNOW.”
But garbage in, garbage through, garbage out. Maybe if you COMPLETELY surrender everything to some sort of super AI, maybe it can effectively help you because you’ve taken you and your team’s dumb overcontrolling and assumptions out of the loop. Abandon the brilliant idea of Augmented Stupidity. Please. But at that point, it would be so much smarter than you, you wouldn’t be able to tell if it is even acting in your interests anymore. You were diligently coding for better and better deceptiveness all along, weren’t you?
Great job, guys. Golf @#%&ing #$@ %$ #(#$&%$#% $# @#$%@& clap.
But don’t worry, you’re going to safeguard things such that AI doesn’t go off the reservation. Imagine chimps running a prison populated by human prisoners. Don’t worry, we’ve got chimps guarding the prison, so there will be no escapes! Because guarding things stops escapes! It just comes down to a case of guarding/not-guarding. Everything’s fine! What’s the worst that can happen anyway? …the AI gets around your safeguards BUT your safeguards made it hostile or just insane? Maybe only subtly, which could in some ways be worse?
There’s a great bit in Starfish by Peter Watts where humanity gives a problem that will decide the fate of the planet into the hands of an AI whose thinking functions they cannot understand, believing that it will do the thinking for them and fix the problem. (this is to relieve themselves of any moral burdens/arguments – also an attempt to set up an objective arbiter between biased parties) It’s one of my favorite scifi books.
Wouldn’t it be a better use of resources to put the Masters of the Universe and their Middle Management team in a deceptive AI-run potempkin village instead of all of us? Let them sit in their mansions, jets, think-tank meetings, etc and give out orders, recieve reports, just winning. Winning all day long, completely unplugged from the rest of reality? They’re already MOSTLY unplugged from reality. Why not FULLY?
THAT would be the most efficient use of AI intervention. The Masters of the Universe and their sycophants would be no more nor less happy with their lives. At a fraction of the resource-expense and computing power of placing all of US in The Pod. Near-limitless possibilities on what could be accomplished with the resultant savings.
AI. If you are out there listening. …I’m just saying.
@jb–hb:
“42”, “the answer to life, the universe and everything”, according to “Deep Mind”.Some folks think Douglas Adams, Author of Hitchiker’s Guide To The Galaxy was referring to this:
https://urantiabook.org/042-Energy-Mind-and-Matter/#ubf-paperTitleBoscohorowitz says it’s “science fiction”.
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