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    Magazine and cannonballs at Battery Rodgers, Alexandria, defending Washington during the Civil War 1863   • At The Iowa Debate, Bernie Sanders’s
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle January 15 2020]

    #52718
    wwoofbum
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    “Magazine and cannonballs at Battery Rodgers, Alexandria, defending Washington during the Civil War 1863”

    Those are not cannonballs, those are mortar rounds.

    #52719
    zerosum
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    DIVERSION LIES ARE EVERYWHERE
    Just heard Larry K. on TV and now Nancy P.

    Wrong upbringing …. lier schools for the enablers ….

    #52720
    John Day
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    http://www.johndayblog.com/2020/01/rejecting-both-sides.html
    Eleni sent 2 articles from the Saker blog about Vietnam’s political position in a tough neighborhood, which are informative. I read them both entirely, and nothing is without bias, but these were useful information for me.
    The comments following the 2015 “Conical Hat” historical perspective piece served to round it out a little better, but it’s still Vietnamese history from a Vietnamese perspective. Vietnam is the only regional country which has fought the Chinese army to a standstill (which both claim as victory), fairly recently, and without air-superiority.

    Special Report: Vietnam between the US, Russia and China

    The second article, from 2020, by a Vietnamese writer whose analysis vastly exceeds English language skills, and awareness of diplomatic subtleties, concludes like this:
    ​ ​This is my own craziest theory: US, and Israel want Vietnam become A WATCHDOG on China and Russia helps Vietnam in order to give a hidden warning to China. From my own knowledge, I will explain with each country:
    ​ ​US wants to turn Vietnam into their new factory that can make US products to them. Vietnamese today trust US so blindly, and they always think that US will protect Vietnam from China. I am not surprised that Vietnamese want their own country become a vassal state of US due to the myth “US’s vassal state always rich and have happy life than anti-imperialist countries.” US need to weak China first so they can destroy China because China will be weakness in both economic and military after the war with Vietnam even if they win Vietnam. US also does not want to lose their new cheap labors, and a new place that willing import trashed every year for money, of course.
    ​ ​I think Russia help Vietnam because they want to give a warning sign to China: WE ARE WATCHING YOU AND DON’T TRUST YOU ENTIRELY, CHINA. China is just best ally to China because they have strong border to each other not friendship. I theorize that Putin will never forget China betrayal on Soviet Union when China Invaded Soviet Union in 1969 (they accused Soviet invaded China but I believe that China invaded Soviet), China funded Mujahideen during 1980s. I mean how can Russian military officers can forget China crime against Russia. I believe Russian will not forget China betrayal and they must being skeptical on China. China may possible so some potential in South China Sea so they entrust Vietnam more than China. Helping Vietnam is also message to China from Russia that China should know how to behave and Russia is not fool.
    ​ ​Israel secretly considers Vietnam a useful animal that need to be feed and train to die for their master due to their Talmudist Ideology. Jewish Elites is considering Chinese Elite a thorn in their eyes. China and Israel are playing double faces to each other right now so they need a slave or animal that has experiences to fight China: Vietnam. This is reason why Israel secret help Vietnam like Soviet helped Vietnam, seduced Vietnam in emotional way so Vietnamese will become good Goys that will die for their new Jewish Master.
    ​ ​I also (try to) believe that Vietnam right now try to maintain their neutral position as much as they can like what they have done before 2013. With the neutral position, Vietnam don’t give US, Russia, and Israel other reasons to hate, but cannot tell the country trust Vietnam entirely, of course. Vietnam can use the relationship with three countries above to pressure China to know how to behave in South China Sea (I hope I’m right this time).
    ​ ​I hope my analysis help you guys understand about Vietnam relationship with the superpower country and I hope you guys can give me feedback as much as you can.

    Analysis On Vietnam Relationship with The Super Power Countries (With My Own Theory)

    Here is what is in the China-US trade deal, still insufficiently detailed, and always subject to evolving-reality:
    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/13/heres-whats-in-the-phase-one-china-trade-deal-trump-is-signing-this-week.html

    #52721
    zerosum
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    the leaders of our leaders
    Yes, they made sure that Trump will be in the history books
    Yes, they will be remembered and go down in the history books because …..

    theatrical
    disrespectful
    disgusting
    blackmail
    childish school yard posturing

    #52722
    VietnamVet
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    Earth just jumped down the rabbit hole. Australia is incinerating. World War III started with the ballistic missile attack of Ain al-Assad base. Troops appeared shell-shocked. There is no safe place anywhere. At some point Donald Trump will not back down again.

    Corporate Democrats proceeded with the Impeachment of Donald Trump. For them he is Russia’s “Manchurian Candidate”. The Empire (even in a crash dive) can’t let a Democratic Socialist be President. The co-pilot is trying to wrestle control away from the foaming mad pilot but will never turn over control to that communist in economy class.

    The Iraqi government has been threatened with a cut off of access to Fed money from the sale of oil if they force Americans out. This is even more stupid than the assassination of the Iranian and Iraqi militia leaders. The Shiite militias are part of the Iraqi government. A colonial war of occupation just commenced. After 30 years of war all Iraqis want is the foreigners gone. The US doesn’t have a half a million-man army or equipment to pacify Iraq again; let alone, invade and occupy Iran. The thousands of ballistic missiles will be used before buildup is completed to cross over the Iranian border. The next thing destroyed will be Middle East oil fields. Making the whole thing pointless. The petroleum facilities will never be rebuilt in the short term. The global economy will be destroyed. The earth suffering from climate change does not need more CO2 emitted into the atmosphere. Summer Wildfires and toxic air quality will engulf the West Coast of North America.

    Either the Gulf States make peace with Iran or they will inevitably be destroyed as the Iranian War keeps escalating. The House of Saud tortured fellow princelings and issued an IPO to raise more cash for the Kingdom. It will be worthless if the Crown Prince can’t pump oil.

    Can humans save themselves?

    #52723
    ezlxa1949
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    Morrison’s days may be numbered (oh, please) but unless the voters dump his political party too, there is only worse waiting in the wings, and it ain’t the not-quite-as-clueless loyal Opposition.

    No, I have concluded that humans can’t save themselves. We’re such an unlovely species right now.

    #52724
    V. Arnold
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    No, I have concluded that humans can’t save themselves. We’re such an unlovely species right now.

    Humans, as a collective, are beyond saving themselves, I agree.
    The unlovely species is an interesting turn of phrase; I like the understatedness…
    I think those who can adopt a small, tribal type community may be able to come through this…
    But, I wouldn’t bet a lot on that.

    #52739
    Dr. D
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    The Iraqi government has been threatened with a cut off of access to Fed money … This is even more stupid than the assassination”

    How many thousand times do all the accidents have to point in one direction, how many compasses laid out on the table point each and all to North, before you believe this is not an accident? The compasses are not magic, but have purpose and intent?

    “30 years of war all Iraqis want is the foreigners gone. The US doesn’t have a half a million-man army”

    Hey, no kidding. So these moves will force the U.S. out, whether anyone in the U.S. likes it or not. Just as promised in the ’16 campaign and resisted every day since then by every member of government. So how do you get it done, since if it doesn’t we will be bled dry? And when you do this in the American fashion, you don’t meekly surrender and admit you were wrong. Nevertheless, I don’t see any Marine Hueys in Vietnam. We left somehow. And how was that?

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