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    John Vachon Five o’clock crowds, Chicago 1941   • Pelosi Seeks To Limit Trump’s War Powers (USAT) • Pelosi Loses Senate Democrats On Trump Impeac
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    #52603
    V. Arnold
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    …and the band played on…

    #52604
    teri
    Participant

    Um, this “War Powers Resolution” of which they speak? Not one damn article has actually quoted the wording of the resolution. All this legislation does is limit Trump to 30 days of whatever action he might deem necessary against Iran, after which time he would have to come to Congress for approval of further action. It is basically what is in the Constitution already, further bolstered by the War Powers Act of more recent years, which state that the president can, in emergency situations, conduct war for a month and then has to come to Congress.

    What this “new” resolution offers to Trump is: if he decides he needs to bomb Iran, he can start doing so at any time, continue doing so for 30 days, and only then has to come to Congress and ask them to vote on whether he can continue doing so beyond the initial 30 days. The “new” part is that this piece of legislation takes out the “in an emergency” wording specifically in regards to Iran only.

    It’s a typical Democratic BS maneuver – throwing a fake-out bit of advertising to the voters about what they are doing to prove they stand for something, when the legislation in question doesn’t do anything like what they say it does. Actually, no, it’s worse than that, because under the Constitution Trump normally could not start a war by himself; Congress would have to declare war. With this law, Congress is saying, “If you are going to bomb Iran, we are giving you a pass on the ’emergency’ shit in the Constitution. You don’t have to tell us about it first – do whatever you want and clue us in after your initial month-long rampage.”

    Tramp can bomb Iran for 30 days, at will, with no interference from Congress, who are giving away their constitutional powers and duties with this bit of junk. It took Bush, Jr. just a couple of hours to utterly ruin Baghdad back in ’03, and that was with conventional weapons. Within days, several major cities in Iraq were razed to the ground. Now Congress is allowing Trump free rein to start with his new mini-nukes and other assorted weapons of mass destruction – imagine the speed with which he can destroy most of Iran.

    This isn’t Pelosi attempting to rewrite the Constitution (heaven forfend!) to limit a president. It is actually allowing the President more leniency in war-making decisions, as applied to Iran.

    #52605
    V. Arnold
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    Um, this “War Powers Resolution” of which they speak? Not one damn article has actually quoted the wording of the resolution. All this legislation does is limit Trump to 30 days of whatever action he might deem necessary against Iran, after which time he would have to come to Congress for approval of further action. It is basically what is in the Constitution already, further bolstered by the War Powers Act of more recent years, which state that the president can, in emergency situations, conduct war for a month and then has to come to Congress. Teri

    What I’ve learned in the last ten days is that the U.S.’s hold on it hegemon is fast coming to an end.
    What just happened with Soleimani is likely the last shot getting a pass from the rest of the planet..
    The hegemon’s days just effectively ended, IMO.
    Look for things to get very interesting from this point forward…
    Bye bye American pie……………………………..

    #52606
    Dr. D
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    Cautiously optimistic about Iran. As Iran shot up the whole town and missed everything and everyone…just like Cheeto in Syria, with his “beautiful bombs”… looks like Quds/Soulimeni were their semi-rogue agency, T asked Rouhani, “Looks like General S. is not only your CIA, but is going increasingly rogue and may make a play to take over Iran, and your job. Would you cry too much if he had an accident?” Rouhani says “Yes, take him and we, the civilian, not secret state governments will talk.” Now here’s the part where T looks serious, the only time as serious as this was during the inauguration, real danger here. Rouhani responds with the empty missile strike, hitting literally nothing. Offer accepted. Proven. Media claims they have assets (effectively terrorists) in America and worldwide and no doubt that’s true: who wouldn’t? It’s so easy a cave man could do it, yet none, zero, attacks on America, which is the easiest place in the world to hit. They took down one unimportant website.

    So that says – and in a big way – Rouhani has accepted the offer. He put down his secret state and reasserted his control, which no doubt is equally dangerous for him. We are going to talk.

    Not to be outdone, and Hollywood and much of the left is flying the flag at half mast, trying to have state funerals for Soulimeni, attacking the United States for, you know, pursuing the same authorized war we have for 20 years during which time Obama killed 5,000 children with the exact same drone strikes, the media reports, “30 U.S. servicemen killed in counter attack!!! WWIII on the way! Beautiful war! (insert orgasm here)” At which time Cheeto tweets, “All is well.” So well in fact, I’m not even going to comment. I’m going to bed and will see you tomorrow. Which he did. So since that was fake news, the 1,448th day in a row, they flipped his comment to be, not that he was responding to their fake WWIII attempt, but that he thinks being bombed is a well and good thing. Nice, but really scraping the barrel of Orange Man Bad.

    So here’s the situation: so Iran has all the oil, and Saudi has none since the U.S. burned it all for them in exchange for paper bucks and gold we already stole from them in Switzerland. The U.S. just set up a deal with the guys who HAVE the oil, at the same time the U.S. – at the moment oil independent – doesn’t NEED the petrodollar. We can’t be cut off. Iran and Saudi are mortal enemies, along with Saudi’s evil Siamese twin, Israel, the two nations (with Qatar, etc peanut gallery) who funded ISIS, the most evil, murdering, bloodthirsty regime the world has seen in the last 500 years. So doesn’t this say, IF Trump is/has a deal with Iran, AND Saudi no longer has any value but is a violent liability, THEN we are about to double-cross and cut loose Saudi Arabia? You know, like seen in the 911 re-investigation? Why else would we pull the plug on the petrodollar as we have? And IF we do that, don’t we by definition, double-cross Israel to some extent? Now Israel will wiggle out of this for sure: they have a deal for the Cyprus pipeline from Leviathan, and can pretend they didn’t know nothin’. But when half your alliance is vanished, put down, can’t say that improves your position much.

    So can you see why he might hold off and keep the 50-year deal with Saudi/MBS for an extra month or two even though they are attacking and killing Yemen’s civilians (and losing badly), UNTIL he could secure a deal with Rouhani and Iran? What would happen if he cut off Saudi first? Before we were oil independent, and before Iran was trusting enough to deal with us? What would happen if Soulimeni was still there, trying to annex Shia Iraq into Iran and use it to attack Israel? And you know, pursue these guys’ weird religion of Pence, Christian dominionist/evengelical, Iran’s return of the 12th Imam, the Mahdi, and Israel’s reinstatement of the Temple via launching WWIII? They all think war would be a great plan and the best evah.

    And can you see why, just like NoKo where the exact same thing happened, Cheeto wants to keep on sanctions until a final agreement is signed? And Russia and China seem to be completely on board: they don’t like loose cannon secret agencies either. Look at how arm’s-length Russia has been for decades with their closest, necessary ally. Why?

    So, keep an eye. Stay tuned. Iran’s secret state isn’t going to just vanish without taking a swing, but not too bad so far. ““Iran Appears to Be Standing Down.” At least until Israel can re-calibrate us fighting that war for them, down to the last West Virginian.

    Bonus question: so Rouhani made a play to re-control Iran’s secret state, the one we expect is made up of more than Iranians. For example, both Strzok and Valerie Jarrett have ties or grew up in Iran. So when they realized that Rouhani was going to purge the Revolutionary Guard and that secret-state nuclear-wanting wing of Iran, did they all get on a plane and fly to their home base, this nexus of worldwide corruption, apparent hub of the black CIA, the Ukraine? And did Iran shoot down the whole plane without comment rather than have them escape? Or is it just air defense on very high alert and an accident? Or perhaps IDF would give Iran a black eye, let the plane take off, then use tech to paint it up on military radar, knowing that would activate the air defense? We may never know, but we’ll see who squawks loudest about being allowed into the investigation: lookin’ at you, Canada’s first black PM, nation deepest in the Ukraine lobby.

    Speaking of Ukraine: “The recent gas transit deal between Russia and Ukraine, and their national gas companies Gazprom and Naftogaz respectively, has comforted Europe…”

    Looks like Russia, Ukr, U.S., and Europe all have a deal now. No more Brzezinski WWIIIs. Total, utter, complete, repudiated failure, in his lifetime so he could watch: couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.
    Media says? “Peace is war, and Iran standing down is Iran winning.” “Trump, who killed a general and paid nothing, gets a peace deal going into an election, and that means he’s losing.” Gotcha. Right.

    Bloomberg just sunk his own, very successful campaign, saying California – being the first U.S. state to fully enter third-world status – is the model he plans to export to every other state. Yeah, we just don’t have enough bankruptcy, wildfires, gang shootings, typhus, and human excrement on the streets of Des Moines. The real threat to America comes from deer hunting and 40-ounce sodas, and we’ve always wanted stop-and-frisk shakedowns. That’s the threat, not, you know, another record high in opioid overdoses and male suicides.

    Pelosi Seeks to Limit Trump’s War Powers (USAT)”

    Nah, Congress already has this power, it’s already in the Constitution. They just don’t want to use it and would have to admit all the fake, weasely wars they’ve fought for 70 years have been illegal as h—l. Just like we all said for all 70 years. So if she does, win-win for Republicans, limiting government. But at the moment the (Republican) Senate won’t, so it’s a joke.

    McConnell said, “no such leverage exists … it will never exist.

    This is entirely true. I don’t know what she thought she would get. Hope another round of DNC/CIA search could find a little more blackmail? That’s how it’s all done now.

    “Can You Locate Iran on a Map? Few Americans Can. (MC)”

    While generally true, I’m calling shenanigans as just as many dots are in the ocean with no land, and are especially in Greenland. More like American’s don’t give a crap about authority and will stick you in the eye if you make them take tests. …Kind of like when poll numbers call these same Americans. Tell them something random, just ’cause. And MC and pollsters believe it without thinking and call us stupid. Hahahaha. Keep it up, dummies. But they’re from Yale, so…

    Ghosn was citing a 99.4% conviction rate in Japanese cases. Why have a lawyer?” As Armstrong said, and equal only to us and improving on Hitler. Now Japan suddenly realized his wife is a criminal and arrest her? Yeah, that says “integrity” all over.

    “Hunter Biden ‘Biological and Legal Father’ of Stripper’s Child – Judge (Fox)”

    And pointing out that Joe’s career has lambasted deadbeat dads. Or granddads? So will any judge in Arkansas take the case? Or would “No reasonable prosecutor” dare? I mean, I feel for them; it’s not a crime. But it doesn’t show well.

    #52607
    zerosum
    Participant

    Truth or lies

    • Can You Locate Iran On A Map? Few Americans Can. (MC)
    28%
    I don’t know, I don’t care, It doesn’t matter
    72%
    I’m not making enough income to meet my expenses
    90%

    #52608
    John Day
    Participant

    http://www.johndayblog.com/2020/01/diplomacy.html
    This is a quick encapsulation:
    ​ ​Days after the assassination of General Qasem Soleimani, new and important information is coming to light from a speech given by the Iraqi prime minister. The story behind Soleimani’s assassination seems to go much deeper than what has thus far been reported, involving Saudi Arabia and China as well the U.S. dollar’s role as the global reserve currency.
    ​ ​The Iraqi prime minister, Adil Abdul-Mahdi, has revealed details of his interactions with Trump in the weeks leading up to Soleimani’s assassination in a speech to the Iraqi parliament. He tried to explain several times on live television how Washington had been browbeating him and other Iraqi members of parliament to toe the American line, even threatening to engage in false-flag sniper shootings of both protesters and security personnel in order to inflame the situation, recalling similar modi operandi seen in Cairo in 2009, Libya in 2011, and Maidan in 2014. The purpose of such cynicism was to throw Iraq into chaos.​..
    ​ Abdul-Mehdi spoke angrily about how the Americans had ruined the country and now refused to complete infrastructure and electricity grid projects unless they were promised 50% of oil revenues, which Abdul-Mehdi refused.
    ​ ​This is why I visited China and signed an important agreement with them to undertake the construction instead. Upon my return, Trump called me to ask me to reject this agreement. When I refused, he threatened to unleash huge demonstrations against me that would end my premiership.
    ​ ​Huge demonstrations against me duly materialized and Trump called again to threaten that if I did not comply with his demands, then he would have Marine snipers on tall buildings target protesters and security personnel alike in order to pressure me.
    ​ ​I refused again and handed in my resignation. To this day the Americans insist on us rescinding our deal with the Chinese.
    ​ ​After this, when our Minister of Defense publicly stated that a third party was targeting both protestors and security personnel alike (just as Trump had threatened he would do), I received a new call from Trump threatening to kill both me and the Minister of Defense if we kept on talking about this “third party”.​..
    ​[​The House of Saud ​openly ​folds it’s hand​]​
    ​ “The kingdom of Saudi Arabia was not consulted regarding the U.S. strike. In light of the rapid developments, the Kingdom stresses the importance of exercising restraint to guard against all acts that may lead to escalation, with severe consequences.​”​…
    ​ ​What clearly emerges is that the success of the operation against Soleimani had nothing to do with the intelligence gathering of the U.S. or Israel. It was known to all and sundry that Soleimani was heading to Baghdad in a diplomatic capacity that acknowledged Iraq’s efforts to mediate a solution to the regional crisis with Saudi Arabia.​..
    ​ The petrodollar is what ensures that the U.S. dollar retains its status as the global reserve currency, granting the U.S. a monopolistic position from which it derives enormous benefits from playing the role of regional hegemon.
    ​ ​This privileged position of holding the global reserve currency also ensures that the U.S. can easily fund its war machine by virtue of the fact that much of the world is obliged to buy its treasury bonds that it is simply able to conjure out of thin air. To threaten this comfortable arrangement is to threaten Washington’s global power.​..​
    ​ ​Washington would like to prevent any Eurasian integration by unleashing chaos and destruction in the region, and killing Soleimani served this purpose. The U.S. cannot contemplate the idea of the dollar losing its status as the global reserve currency. Trump is engaging in a desperate gamble that could have disastrous consequences​..​.
    ​ ​The assassination of Soleimani is the U.S. lashing out at its steady loss of influence in the region. The Iraqi attempt to mediate a lasting peace between Iran and Saudi Arabia has been scuppered by the U.S. and Israel’s determination to prevent peace in the region and instead increase chaos and instability.

    The Deeper Story Behind the Assassination of Soleimani

    Note to Self:
    “Don’t Carry Sign ​Saying Americans Die for Israeli Controlled Mideast Policy at Antiwar Rally”
    I’ve got to wonder if the heroic guy who keeps asking for an explanation is Palestinian American. “NAZI, NAZI, NAZI, NAZI, NAZI…” Thanks Eleni
    https://russia-insider.com/en/watch-zionists-pittsburgh-assault-anti-war-protesters-criticizing-israel/ri28129

    #52609
    sumac.carol
    Participant

    The conviction rate in US federal court is close to 100 percent, as bad if not worse than the Japan. The reason: defendants (mostly poor black people) are pushed to plead guilty. Shocking but true. Convection rates were under 80 percent in the 1970s but have steadily risen since then. If defendants in the US refuse to plead guilty and go to court conviction rates drop substantially.

    #52611
    tabarnick
    Participant

    “Can You Locate Iran on a Map? Few Americans Can. (MC)”

    Dr. D: absolutely right. Clearly a good number of people just picked absurd points (middle of the ocean, Texas, Greenland) and meant: you can take that geography test and shove it… I would not put much faith in it!

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