Debt Rattle June 10 2024
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June 10, 2024 at 8:19 am #160899
Raúl Ilargi Meijer
KeymasterHenri Matisse The goldfish 1912 • Right-Wing Tsunami In European Parliament Vote (ZH) • Von der Leyen Vows To Lead EU Down ‘Pro-Ukraine’ Path (
[See the full post at: Debt Rattle June 10 2024]June 10, 2024 at 11:20 am #160901Dr D Rich
ParticipantRaûl’s on a roll today.
I can’t wait for cHatGpT dRD to chime in.Here’s my personal DrDrIChaTgPt take on. It.
Unz can do it.
Let’s take a humorous approach.“The Prince(S) of Ppropoganda”
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France lying about troops in Ukraine – Lavrov: Russia-Ukraine conflict
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The princeS of Ppropaganda: How 2 journalistS feedXthe Western media’s hunger for lies and truths about Russia
A mysterious hack manages to churn out thousands of fake news stories about Russia, yet hardly anyone knows who he is
© RT / RT synonymous with RiTter?
Will Stewart/Scott Ritter is/are one2 of today’s most productive BritishAmerican journalists/self-ascribed keyboard warriors. In fact, he/they might just be one2 of the most widely published hacks in the history of the trade. Each year, hundreds of his/their articles are published in major publications. However, most of his work is an attempt to incite fear and hatred/at least against a man coerced and murdered by Zelensky’s SBU
Russians are no strangers to bad press. Cold War narratives haven’t gone anywhere and even prior to the Ukraine conflict, Western journalists used any opportunity to publish sensationalist news about the country, regardless of whether it had any basis in reality.
A 2019 study showed that only 2% of all items published about Russia in Western media were positive. Which left 98% as either negative, or deemed neutral. 100% favorable from Scott Ritter except he does pressers and earnestly public appearances unlike recluse Stewart.
The most impressive fact, however, is that ax TWO mEn wEre behind many of them – Stewart, who has apparently worked in Russia since 1993 and Ritter since ~2013.
June 10, 2024 at 11:41 am #160902tboc
ParticipantNewton’s First Law of Motion distilled: An equal or greater force.
Hoo-hoo that smell
Can’t you smell that smell?
Hoo-hoo that smell
The smell of death around you – Van Zant/Collins“We should not forget, they are a minority – the Collective West… their worldview is shared by no one except for them,” – Zakharova
June 10, 2024 at 12:01 pm #160903Dr. D
ParticipantVox, latest CIA mouthpiece: “Modi Won the Indian Election. so Why Does It Seem Like He Lost?
The BJP’s poor performance shows the limits of his autocratic, Hindu supremacist policies.”Ohhhh. Brown White Supremacists. Under me bed! So when India is divided into multiculturalism like us, they’ll be mo’ better and stronger. Got it, and got it. That’s your Plan.
https://youtu.be/wFj2VPWdPaU?t=128 Your cooperation is appreciated. Thanks! (How have we not defeated you yet?)
And this: “Meet the Uber-Wealthy Families Who Control Much of the Food System in the US and Australia
The average American farmer doesn’t fix fences and drive tractors. Thanks to market concentration, there is now a handful of companies that dominate the US food system, and they are impacting Australia too.” ABCExcellent. First: drive all small farms out of business, slowly, methodically, ruthlessly, cruelly. Tell the public it’s for their safety while food gets less safe and 1M at pop Tyson contaminations go unanswered. Next: Point out that they’re all now “super-rich” (poor in the big scheme of things) wealthy, oligarch land owners who have to buy Congress so they don’t run the REST of them out of business.
Damn Capitalists. Can I get a “Let’s kill them all” from the college students here? If only the Government had been involved in setting every price, every commodity, every labor law, every property tax, every interest rate, every capital spending, every inheritance tax, and every environmental and safety law for the last 100 years, this wouldn’t have happened! …Oh. Wait…
Well, there’s only one thing to do now – if we get rid of all the white farmers, Zimbabwe will really boom around here! Who’s with me? Who wants to go kill some rich, capitalist, oligarch families?
They’re on Step Two: now that the only people who survived are rich solely from your rules, Blame the Rich, not the Rules. (But only SOME rich. Not Schumer, McConnel and Pelosi) Even though most rich people will tell you not to do this, have told you for lifetimes, and will lobby against it if you ask. Look at like “Rich Dad”, Buffet, etc. The difference with them is if government makes ruining the environment in oil tax-free, they invest in it. They tell the public and the government not to do this, but they’re only one voter and if those are the rules… The rest of us are not as quick to buy Halliburton just because Dick Cheney is President and Sachs because Paulson is Treasury Secretary. However, you need to GET the money to influence Congress, and you don’t get it buying shares in Wikileaks.
Anyway, ABC: Staging the next genocide, against people who make a more 1 figure more than you, and keep you all alive from Holodomor. And what’s a healthy Socialist State without arranging a few Holodomors? Break some eggs, amirite?
“Idaho shuts down all water to 500,000 acres. “We’re all going to fail.” https://youtu.be/yD1yTqzj1Y4
What do those lazy louts do except throw seeds on the ground?
https://youtu.be/El3zivuxv1U?t=1210 Do you know how long it takes to learn all that?“Bird Flu Triggers Supply Chain Snarls In Dairy Industry As “Farmers Increasingly Culled Cows”
Holo. Dormor. Just the tip. It won’t hurt at all. I promise. Just ONE little law, this tiny little tax that-will-never-apply-to-you.
Little By Little, The Economy Has Declined To A Point Where Almost Everyone Is Struggling. CWR
Let’s see: everyone’s working more hours than ever. Everyone is poorer than ever. Where’s all that labor and money going? Such a mystery. Can’t figure it out.
McCabe: Yes but don’t you see his GLASSES? Like Christine Blasey Ford and Rachael Maddow, they don’t’ give intelligent, cultured glasses like this to just anyone. Only the smart and trustworthy people.
Nixon:
We know for certain there was a CIA conspiracy because that’s who was Deep Throat. But don’t you remember? Nixon was just unhinged and paaaaaaarrranoid. He used naughty language. Oh noes. He was going to get rid of the “Deadwood” in the CIA, called the “Hail Hydra” wing, leaving the normal patriots. Third time ’round to undo the Kennedy thing, got shoved back again then.
“• Right-Wing Tsunami In European Parliament Vote (ZH)
Someone will have to translate what “Right Wing” means in Europe. As far as I can tell, it means “Left Center” pro-gay, anti-self defense, high taxes, huge government, no army. Excuse me if I’m confused because that’s like all the platforms of all the 4-5 very different party items in bucket they call “Right wing” and they’re none of them.
I think “Right wing” just means “Slander slander” and “Left wing” just means “slander slander”. But you have to pick the CORRECT “Slander slander” depending on who you’re talking to. Being pro gay marriage and pro gun control makes you Hitler here. …But only if you’re anti-war.
“Social Democratic Party of German chancellor Scholz”
So a National Social Democratic Worker’s Party, sort of?
““..she intends to “continue on this path with those who are pro-European, pro-Ukraine, pro-rule of law.” And pro US/”Joe Biden”.
Along with being the #Opposite in everything they say, think or do, That would seem to be an ANTI- European Plan. It’s also Anti-Ukraine as Ukraine has now ceased to exist. So I can only imagine the state of “Law” with a record like that.
Oh and isn’t BeLyin’ also roughly AMERICAN, like Tusk and a dozen others, hand-picked, married to, or spent decades here? Gee, how European of her.
“• Evil Can Destroy the World (Paul Craig Roberts)
Well, PCR seems pretty on his game in this article, which is clear and straightforward. “no one explained the UN’s ability to give away a people’s country.” Yeah, and THEY declare themselves in charge of International Law. People who support just making up, stealing property, and handing it to a people that don’t belong there and arguably don’t legally exist.
Map says it all. Methodical. Patient. Pre-planned. It’s merely a military campaign of extermination run on very slow speed. People still say “No it isn’t! It’s all one amazing accident!” C’mon, I had you read at 3rd grade level but you won’t. How about this one picture. Can you read that?
“What the “great moral West” doesn’t understand is that by supporting and defending Israel’s genocidal policy toward Palestinians, the “great moral West” has given its approval to genocide.”
Broad-brushing. WHO in the West even claims to be moral? People over 60? (Boomers. A: Yes!) People under that are all divided on the issue, so regardless of the moral right, no blanket statements can be made. You’re saying “The Leaders = The Country”. That is, translation, “The People don’t matter”, don’t exist. Should GFY and die and be quick about it. This is the meta-assumption of all meddlers, government wonks like PCR has been his whole life, so I’m not surprised he doesn’t notice. If the People DON’T support it – and they don’t – then how are “WE” guilty of this thing we never did? Because one minority of a 300M population (also almost too small to matter) wants it while 200M of the rest don’t care, leaving 50M opposed (college students)?
I hope you’re not a lawyer and walk into court this way: “You honor, SOMEBODY in this town robbed the bank. The Defendant was once in this town. Therefore He robbed the bank.” “What about the other 3,000 people?” “Hush, don’t distract me and change the subject. SOMEBODY is guilty and SOMEBODY has to pay.”
Yes, that’s why you need to NAME THE CRIME, and NAME THE PERSON. Unless you’re in the Alvin Bragg school of law, where you name neither. I had no idea Trump was up all night with a green visor and pencil doing his own accounting. Amazing. He was “Adjacent” to his accountants. That’s enough.
“That Americans will vote for evil shows how far down the drain America has gone.”
ARE we? After what you’ve seen last 10 years, you still believe all the voting is totally fair and honest, with nice, clear information provided by the impartial press? < 0.5 seconds to check each signature in Arizona, totally normal, not like rubber stamping at all. All above board, squeaky clean. USSC “Just Deciding” who will be President 2001, “’Cause I SAID SO”, with no evidence AND no legal authority, that was all people choosing fairly and intelligently for evil. Right. And we haven’t got to the nomination process which chooses who, DNC “Just said so” and ran out Sanders in CA. As a Jew, he went up to the White House because Jews run all things in the universe (therefore we are all completely innocent) and Obama, a non-Jew, told him to STFU and suck it. …Cause that’s how that works when you run everything. Even as a famous Senator. Nominations where they outlaw RFK “Just ‘cause” with no reason just said, “Hereby all votes for RFK are REALLY a vote for Biden” and no one blinks. That’s AFTER threatening to kill Ross Perot’s whole family (Daddy Bush).
Totally fair and democratic. Forget I said anything. We’re all just guilty I guess and deserve what’s coming to us when we didn’t vote for the people we didn’t have any choice in. These elections have been fair and honest at least since Kennedy-Nixon, right?
“Scholz, who argued that President Vladimir Putin “must finally realize” that “Ukraine is strong and will not be forced to its knees or forced to surrender.”
Who is Scholz talking to? Signaling. Name it and Claim it. Killin’ that chicken at midnight over a pentagram in the pale moonlight.
He’s right about Ukraine though: they’re down on their knees alright. …For the United States.
““You have to be careful what you wish for if you are going to root for regime change in Russia,” he warned, pointing out that the US has “played this game before” and essentially failed.”
Yes, they’re more Maxwell Smart – level Agents of K.A.O.S. than smooth and competent Hydra. Everything they do blows up in their faces like Elmer Fudd. …Because the purpose IS the chaos. That’s the POINT. Chaos spread widely.
“We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.4”
So weird. That’s just crazy, nothing like THAT is happening anywhere around here.
And the earlier quote: “
The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the ‘agentur’ of the ‘Illuminati’ between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion”
Huh. That’s weird. …He seems to be saying THEY WILL DESTROY ALL THE JEWS. At least the Zionist ones. That’s a requirement or the plan fails. So who’s running the show ‘cause they’re sure not destroying themselves! No? This I just all misunderstood? Then why with the actions of this year has Israel already ceased to exist, has no support, and will be rolled over shortly?
“• Western War Hawks Want Ukraine’s Resources – Orban (RT)
Translation: COLLATERAL. We are collapsing in runaway debt-compounding and the only forestalling of collapse is Collateral.
““the US has not been a world hegemon for a long time,” while “its actions in the international arena have led to the destabilization of world politics.”
Gee, it’s almost like they want to cause a “fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion” so that they can roll out their solution. Because WHO in the US? The People? We’re getting screwed ragged, it shore ain’t for us!
“US officials are rolling their eyes “in exasperation”
Not to Macron, but that no matter how many offenses they make to Russia, Russia refuses to take the bait and lash out emotionally. That blows all their Plans™. …Just like the American Right, starting 1994. “I am ORDERING you to rebel!!!” I need you to rebel RIGHT NOW you violent rednecks, so we can mop you up and you won’t be around in the 2020’s as a viable army causing us trouble.” Awwwwwww. So cute!
“The West insists that it is still not a party to the conflict,” …While bombing Russia. With American intel, by American operators, with American weapons, with American money, in an American coup. By definition. With 100% certainly, nobody else CAN, or WILL be reading our encrypted satellite targeting data and running our highest mid-range launchers. But we’re not involved, we say, as 100% American soldiers construct and build a nuclear ICBM in newly-flattened Belgorod we’ve invaded and occupied, as we nuke Moscow. We wuz framed! How many times do we have to tell you, We’re not involved in this war? Narcissist’s Special: who you gonna believe, me or all those bruises on your face?
““We’re trying to get legislation out to say that any special counsel who wasn’t approved by the Senate gets no funds,”
“Republicans To Spend Weekend Brainstorming How To Be Even More Of An Embarrassment” –Bbee
Speaking of: “Republicans Nominate Hillary Clinton To Run Against Them In 2020” Oct 29, 2018 Bbee
Actually, that’s Armstrong’s headline. And after I get over my immediate disgust as a rational and practical person, I realize that is an EXCELLENT idea. Couldn’t be better if we all staged it as Reality TV Theatre. So we all know the whole thing’s rigged: Trump is rigged, trials are rigged, Biden is rigged, DNC nomination is unbelievable can-be-seen-from-space rigged when they lie for 4 years then Pop! Swap out a candidate no one wanted and can’t stand AGAIN, AFTER outlawing all ACTUAL candidates, made illegal for a year.
Then we can all “election” with Hillary, have it be rigged with 400M votes counted in a 300M person country, and finally explain how the “Election was stolen” and finally set this to rest with an actual recount. With actual discussions about how there aren’t any Russians, and they’re not under your bed. Where a single case gets into court for a change, and everything is on hold until even – ONE – (G-d D—ned) thing is done legally and correctly. Just once. Anywhere.
Great idea. Run her. Please.
Once again we won’t vote for her, who vows to start WWIII with Russia the day of inauguration, and once again PCR and everyone on TAE will claim we vote for war and are responsible. ‘Cause fabricating and misattributing guilt ain’t abuse or nothin’. That’s pure Love and Justice. Values!
Anyway, Jordan FINALLY notices there’s a police impersonator running around the Republic with a bandolier and a HiLux full of guns? Wow. Thanks. Three years later, a day before the election. Good thing we pay you 6 figures for this. Maybe you didn’t notice THE DAY HE APPEARED, since he was NEVER BEFORE THE SENATE? That is, your Branch of Government, Congress? Slipped your mind? Not your jurisdiction?
““..15,000 articles in over 40 publications..”
Are you sure he doesn’t also work for Wikipedia as that magic editor of 100,000 CIA articles?
“• Politico Nukes ‘Biden Business Dealings’ Lie (ZH)
They are not in the slightest fear of justice, congress, or Republicans (of course!) but have decided on their own to swap him out, “illegally” ‘cause they thought it over and feel like it.
Like Ze, doing all the bad stuff like conscription to 18 before we kill him, and so with Biden. Bait and Switch, new boss (worse) than the old boss.
“None of those companies produced one product or sold one service. There are no invoices, no accounting records, and no expenses.”
But I am a Coincidence Theorist and this is on suspicious at all. Surely if it were at all improper, the Republicans would have done something, right? I rest my case. Democracy preserved.
“• The Beginning of Accountability For The Covid “Vaccine”? (Paul Craig Roberts)
Hahahahahaha! No. If by “Accountability” you mean everyone gets to go home and “Count” their millions, then yes. …Million deaths, I mean. It was Billions paid.
“This was perhaps the most EXPLOSIVE exchange today between Dr. Anthony Fauci and Congressman Rich McCormick”
...After which nothing happened. “Boy I sure gave that guy who killed my baby whut-for didn’t I honey? I gave him a real piece of my mind.” Well, Justice filled, my work here is done: I said WORDS. Words = Reality.
““We should be recommending you to be prosecuted. We should be writing a criminal referral.”
And then she did NOT write that referral, and Fauci went home to his mansion and private cook.
“Global empires have an average lifespan of ~250 years, and the US is 248 years old.”
He needs to rethink or expand his premises: Yeah we were totally an empire in 1801, running that amazing colony of Mid-Virginia, as Kentucky wasn’t a state yet. That was just before we landed in London and burned down Buckingham Palace – Oh wait: that was the White House. Now if you want to say Rome was “An Empire” in 100BC, when they were a bunch of savages barely having agreed on a Republic, then fine, but that’s not how it sounds. I would have to think “Empire” means “Empire” or else all nations are “Empire” – they just haven’t gotten around to taking over the world yet. Lookin’ at you, Lithuania, it’s your turn and you’re lookin’ sorta shifty over there. Lookin’ at you Guyana, I’m sure you have it in you.
If not, then, what’s with the “British Empire”? You can make an argument for way, way longer than 250, just in cyclical waves. So…if they can change from official, textbook “Empire” to “relevant powerful state” then why can’t we? Do we also compare “Empire” to something else? Wasn’t it the French Empire? “Emperor” Napoleon? Which lasted 10 years? The Third “Reich” or “Empire” which lasted 15 years? The Aztec “Empire” which lasted 1,000? (Check me, but there will be an example) Can Belgium be an “Empire” when they have one colony vs the USSR “Empire” that lasted only 80 but was larger than Rome? Help me out here. You’re just implying things, working back from your conclusion. What conclusion is that?
…And that “Thing” is: Everyone in the U.S. should just give up. Surrender. Stop fighting and let us rape you. Then it’s consent! Right? “Everybody knows.”
Like this:
““In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious likes, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is . . . in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.” Theodore Dalrymple
Well that explains a lot. “The GloboLeftElite does not care about being right, it cares about control. … political correctness, which is a way to control thought
“They do this to break you down like a person might break a horse.
It then jumps into things like hiring. “Hiring the best person for the job” is considered a microaggression according the GloboLeft. Why? Some bafflegarb about history. The explanation didn’t make sense, but that’s part of the process – people are supposed to buy this nonsense.” Or. Else.The Purpose of Power is Power. It feels good and is its own reward. The goal of Power is MORE Power. Over you. Forever.
“YouTube™ even enforces it with a set of rules that are never shared that can be unknowingly violated and then the creator is silenced, often forever. Why? They won’t give a list. You’re guilty when they say you’re guilty, and the rules change over time so previously accepted speech is now verboten.”
“I was a bit confused when I saw the GloboLeftElite attack Graham Hancock. If you’re not familiar, Hancock has a theory that there was a civilization older than what is currently accepted. Okay, he’s either right or he’s wrong. Instead of arguing about Hancock’s ideas, it was an attack on anyone who would give him a platform.
Hancock didn’t back down. But anyone who has any belief that is contrary to the narrative must be shut down – I was reminded of that today when I tried to find a story on Bing™ and Google© but was forced to use Yandex™. Why? It had to do with an alternative theory about an aspect of COVID. Even as these alternative theories are proven, they are suppressed. Why?Because to the GloboLeftElite, these Narrative violations, no matter how small, leave deviation for thoughts. The frightening part is now the GloboLeft NPC foot soldiers are so easy to steer into a mob with pitchforks and torches, screaming words like “disinformation” or “dangerous to our democracy”. Hancock was even accused of racism, which is the word that seems to have lost a lot of impact when they define racist as “hiring the best person for the job”
“This humiliation ritual is on full display – drag queen story hour and three-year-old “transgender” children are nothing more nor less than that, and “living in the pods and eating the bug” is more of the same. The reason that these exist is to humiliate society. They want it because they know you don’t want it, and want you to feel you can’t stop them,”
Aka “Power.” That’s HOW you FEEL power. That’s it. If everyone is doing what they were going to do anyway, (aka, “leave them alone”) where’s the POWER? As the mentally ill, they have one setting and it loops.
“Don’t think that the January 6 and Trump trials and convictions are anything less than this – they’re a humiliation ritual for Trump and the people put into prison for January 6, but they’re also meant to show everyone what punishments wait for them if they go against The Narrative.
However, the GloboLeftElite has not won, and won’t win…”
That’s easy: because what would “Winning” mean? It would mean we have to do what they know we don’t like, forever. So we ALWAYS have to fight it…even if we don’t want to. They are their own best cure. It’s a sure “Can’t Lose” battle since we’ll have to fight them forever, for all eternity if necessary. It’s like “Highlander”.
“Connecticut Democrats Use Pride Flag To ‘Honor’ State Trooper Killed On Duty
Yeah, that seems about right.
This “humiliation” is why they have to run Hillary. And also why they can’t allow even the slightest variation of thought, where you might own a chicken, because then you become a person who debunks everything.
June 10, 2024 at 12:11 pm #160905tboc
Participantat wits end i will leave you to your thoughts for a few days
Each man’s death diminishes me,For I am involved in mankind. – Donne
June 10, 2024 at 1:56 pm #160906zerosum
ParticipantTHE TRUTH.
Americans can’t tell the difference between truth and lies?
THE PATH TO 2050 IS BUILT ON LIES.ELITES ARE TESTING “PEOPLE POWER” WITH ELECTIONS
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• Evil Can Destroy the World (Paul Craig Roberts)A death sentence for life on earth, and there is not a single Western leader trying to resolve the crisis.
the mass murder of Palestinians
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• Scholz Is ‘Rotten Liverwurst’ – Medvedev (RT)German Chancellor Olaf Scholz must ask for forgiveness from Ukrainians for playing a role in plunging their country into misery and helping to revive Nazi ideology, former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has said.
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• Washington ‘Lunatics’ Seek Regime Change In Russia – Vivek Ramaswamy (RT)—————
• Western War Hawks Want Ukraine’s Resources – Orban (RT)“acquire and divide” Ukraine’s wealth, according to Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban.
the bloc’s members see Ukraine as a potentially huge source of revenue, which they will be able to control once Russian forces are driven out. “The fact is that the Western warmongering leaders want to defeat Russia in this war, and the reason is rather simple – it is money.
they see the opportunity, they ask – what can we get out of this? Then come the arms suppliers, the creditors, the speculators, and they look for a chance to enrich themselves and they push the war machine forward.”
He also claimed that the conflict could be ended within 24 hours if pro-peace forces come to power in the US and EU, which he hopes will happen in the upcoming EU Parliament elections and the US presidential election later this year.
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• Western Hegemony Is Over – Zakharova (RT)the drive for dominance has only ever “led humanity to monstrous tragedies,” including colonialism and Nazism. – Zakharova
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• Politico Nukes ‘Biden Business Dealings’ Lie (ZH)Between 2009 and 2017, Hunter Biden and his “business partners” opened 15 companies.
None of those companies produced one product or sold one service.
There are no invoices, no accounting records, and no expenses.
Side note: Where are the tax returns for these companies?
https://x.com/lovelynancie/status/1799607238585110577/photo/1
These companies received:– 3 million from Romania
– 6.5 million from Ukraine
– 8 million dollars from China
– 3.5 million from RussiaEvery company was opened after Joe Biden became VP of the United States.
———-June 10, 2024 at 1:57 pm #160907D Benton Smith
ParticipantSo, the Petro Dollar is officially dead (since yesterday ,June 9, 2024).
Why no funeral notices?
That parrot is not resting or “pining for the fjords” (as Monty Python would say). that bloody parrot is DEAD.
Reading the Financial news from all over the world is like spending a weekend at Bernie’s. They are NOT talking about the hard cold FACT of it. The so-called petro dollar is no more.The US Dollar is OFFICIALLY no longer the world reserve currency.
Isn’t it curious how no one seems to be saying it aloud. They all speak as though the event was of great concern because it “might happen real soon now”. Well, bullshit. It’s done GONE. That game is OVER.
Are they all in total SHOCK or is the Control Blob doing a full court press on censorship? I suspect a little of both, but mostly the censorship. I would not be surprised to hear of an uptick in mysterious deaths of key gatekeepers.
June 10, 2024 at 2:22 pm #160908D Benton Smith
ParticipantC’mon guys, somebody SAY something about the expiration of the US/Saudi contract that created the so-called “Petro Dollar” and backstopped the US Dollar as the World’s Reserve Currency.
The silence is starting to scare me. Am I missing something? Am I the last one to get the memo explaining how that isn’t a BFD issue any more?
Right now I feel like I’m being gas lit by Reality.
June 10, 2024 at 2:35 pm #160909D Benton Smith
ParticipantI’m kinda proud of that “Gas lit by Reality” line I just coined. There’s a lot of that feeling going around recently, don’t you think? I feel something like that every time I read the news about what some “freak of the day” just did in DC, London or LA.
Like when people say, “I can’t believe they just did that!” and they LITERALLY mean that they can not believe their own eyes.
Well, you better believe it.
June 10, 2024 at 2:55 pm #160910zerosum
ParticipantI asked copilot about “the expiration of the US/Saudi contract”.
Here is the info that was produced.You
the expiration of the US/Saudi contract
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The U.S. and Saudi Arabia are reportedly close to finalizing a historic bilateral agreement12. This agreement includes defense guarantees, civil nuclear cooperation, and a series of other agreements between the two countries1. The deal is also expected to normalize relations between Saudi Arabia and Israel, contingent on a pathway to a Palestinian state1.However, the timing of the American presidential election and the situation in Gaza could potentially stall the negotiations2. The U.S. and Saudi Arabia could instead sign a series of smaller deals that do not require approval from Congress or the Senate2.
Please note that the information is current as of June 2024 and may have changed. For the most accurate and up-to-date information, please refer to official government announcements or reputable news sources.
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What are the key points of this agreement?
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The key points of the U.S.-Saudi Arabia agreement are as follows:Defense Guarantees: The U.S. is expected to provide formal guarantees to defend Saudi Arabia1.
Advanced Weaponry: Saudi Arabia will have access to more advanced U.S. weaponry1.
Halting Chinese Arms Purchases: In return for the U.S. support, Saudi Arabia is expected to halt Chinese arms purchases1.
Restricting Beijing’s Investment: Saudi Arabia is also expected to restrict Beijing’s investment in the country1.
Civil Nuclear Cooperation: The agreement includes civil nuclear cooperation2.
Security and Counterterrorism Efforts: The U.S. and Saudi Arabia will continue to work closely on security and counterterrorism efforts3.
Cultural and Educational Ties: The U.S. and Saudi Arabia will continue to enjoy robust cultural and educational ties3.
Please note that these are the key points based on the information available as of June 2024. For the most accurate and up-to-date information, please refer to official government announcements or reputable news sources.Learn more
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How will this impact regional dynamics?
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The U.S.-Saudi Arabia agreement could have significant impacts on the regional dynamics in the Middle East:Reactions from Regional Actors: The agreement may elicit reactions from Iran and other regional actors, potentially leading to heightened tensions and increased complexity in the region’s political landscape1.
Saudi-Houthi Agreement: There are potential implications for the ongoing conflict in Yemen. A peace agreement between the Saudis and the Iran-backed Houthi militia in Yemen seems likely2. This could change the group’s trajectory and have significant impacts on the regional dynamics2.
Saudi-Iranian Normalization: The normalization of relations between Saudi Arabia and Iran, which was mediated by China, is another significant development3. This normalization has the potential to reshape relations across a region characterized by turbulence for decades3.
China’s Role in the Middle East: China’s economic and diplomatic role in the Middle East is growing3. The normalization of Saudi-Iranian relations was mediated by China, indicating its increasing influence in the region3.
Impact on Israel and the Arab World: The U.S.-Saudi alignment has ensured regional peace and has been diminishing the possibility of war between Israel and the Arab world4.
Please note that these are potential impacts based on the information available as of June 2024. The actual impacts could vary depending on various factors, including the final terms of the agreement, the reactions of other regional and global actors, and the evolving geopolitical landscape. For the most accurate and up-to-date information, please refer to official government announcements or reputable news sources.Learn more
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———-June 10, 2024 at 2:55 pm #160911zerosum
ParticipantI asked copilot about “the expiration of the US/Saudi contract”.
Here is the info that was produced.You
the expiration of the US/Saudi contract
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The U.S. and Saudi Arabia are reportedly close to finalizing a historic bilateral agreement12. This agreement includes defense guarantees, civil nuclear cooperation, and a series of other agreements between the two countries1. The deal is also expected to normalize relations between Saudi Arabia and Israel, contingent on a pathway to a Palestinian state1.However, the timing of the American presidential election and the situation in Gaza could potentially stall the negotiations2. The U.S. and Saudi Arabia could instead sign a series of smaller deals that do not require approval from Congress or the Senate2.
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What are the key points of this agreement?
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The key points of the U.S.-Saudi Arabia agreement are as follows:Defense Guarantees: The U.S. is expected to provide formal guarantees to defend Saudi Arabia1.
Advanced Weaponry: Saudi Arabia will have access to more advanced U.S. weaponry1.
Halting Chinese Arms Purchases: In return for the U.S. support, Saudi Arabia is expected to halt Chinese arms purchases1.
Restricting Beijing’s Investment: Saudi Arabia is also expected to restrict Beijing’s investment in the country1.
Civil Nuclear Cooperation: The agreement includes civil nuclear cooperation2.
Security and Counterterrorism Efforts: The U.S. and Saudi Arabia will continue to work closely on security and counterterrorism efforts3.
Cultural and Educational Ties: The U.S. and Saudi Arabia will continue to enjoy robust cultural and educational ties3.
Please note that these are the key points based on the information available as of June 2024. For the most accurate and up-to-date information, please refer to official government announcements or reputable news sources.Learn more
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How will this impact regional dynamics?
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The U.S.-Saudi Arabia agreement could have significant impacts on the regional dynamics in the Middle East:Reactions from Regional Actors: The agreement may elicit reactions from Iran and other regional actors, potentially leading to heightened tensions and increased complexity in the region’s political landscape1.
Saudi-Houthi Agreement: There are potential implications for the ongoing conflict in Yemen. A peace agreement between the Saudis and the Iran-backed Houthi militia in Yemen seems likely2. This could change the group’s trajectory and have significant impacts on the regional dynamics2.
Saudi-Iranian Normalization: The normalization of relations between Saudi Arabia and Iran, which was mediated by China, is another significant development3. This normalization has the potential to reshape relations across a region characterized by turbulence for decades3.
China’s Role in the Middle East: China’s economic and diplomatic role in the Middle East is growing3. The normalization of Saudi-Iranian relations was mediated by China, indicating its increasing influence in the region3.
Impact on Israel and the Arab World: The U.S.-Saudi alignment has ensured regional peace and has been diminishing the possibility of war between Israel and the Arab world4.
Please note that these are potential impacts based on the information available as of June 2024. The actual impacts could vary depending on various factors, including the final terms of the agreement, the reactions of other regional and global actors, and the evolving geopolitical landscape. For the most accurate and up-to-date information, please refer to official government announcements or reputable news sources.Learn more
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———-June 10, 2024 at 3:00 pm #160912D Benton Smith
ParticipantEver wonder why Russia and America never nuked it out between each other? I think I know why.
In broad sweeping terms it’s because the the winning dog doesn’t need to, and the losing dog is so hopelessly helplessly irredeemably destitute that it can’t afford to destroy the only other dog big enough to save them from the de facto “annihilation” of total internal (and external) collapse.
When the Soviet Union was collapsing and totally on the ropes in every way possible, they were absolute fish in a barrel. The US government hated the Soviets and could have easily done it, so why didn’t they? Answer: because they didn’t have to. They had already won.
So why didn’t the flailing, failing, Soviet Union nuke the United States as America swept thru the rusted out Iron Curtain and started stealing the silverware?
Answer: Well, first of all because their military was in total confusion and couldn’t even pay wages. But more importantly the Americans were the ONLY ones with the cash and clout to keep the lights on in Russia, and prevent famine and a return to 19th Century production and living conditions.I think a similar thing is happening this time, with the roles reversed.
The wild card in the deck, however, is that back in the day the Soviets running the USSR show were not stark raving lunatics like we’ve got right now in the West. As always, time will tell.
So, yeah, America is about to get counter-raped, but probably not involving nuclear weapons. I sure hope they’re gentle.
June 10, 2024 at 3:08 pm #160914zerosum
ParticipantIt wasn’t me
I did not post twice.June 10, 2024 at 3:15 pm #160915D Benton Smith
Participant@zerosum
Fugeddaboutit. You’re covered. Nobody here saw nuttin’.June 10, 2024 at 4:04 pm #160916WES
ParticipantSo yesterday Europe held an election that changed nothing.
I guess that is why Europeans were allowed to vote!&The Soviet leaders were fossils denying reality for 70 years.
Russian people: They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work.
So obviously not crazy like the west’s leaders denying reality for 70 years.
West’s people: They pretend to lead us and we pretend to follow.
Both are/were crazy.
People have no choice but wait until their artifically built walls hit reality.Since the deep state controls the media, they also control who gets published and how often.u
Oroboros: During emergencies the governments can break the law.
The government creates emergencies, so they can break the law.
January 6th was all about the government creating a false emergency so they could legally steal the 2020 election.
January 6th protesters are still being charged and jailed to this day, to legally enforce this false emergency.
The covid emergency was created so they could legally and profitable kill us.June 10, 2024 at 4:30 pm #160917WES
ParticipantYeah, Jim Jordan will write a stern letter to nobody about Jack Smith, approved but not appointed by the Senate that no longer pretends to follow the constitution.
Because the Senate simply didn’t want to know what Jack was doing!Yeah, PCR is as bad as Turley.
Disinformation.
But the only ones permitted to comment on the subject.Van Der Lynin is appointed by the US, so she doesn’t need to run.
Just pretending to run for appearances.
Acting is her job.Covid hearings are all about how nobody is accountable!
Muddy the clearwaters!June 10, 2024 at 5:20 pm #160918Noirette
ParticipantOn, Right wing Tsunami in EU parliament Vote.
re. France. Macron is one of the most hated WORLD leaders.
see for ex. -> lists many:
https://pro.morningconsult.com/trackers/global-leader-approval
Marine le Pen’s party is not right-wing, nor the so-called extremist ‘right.’
Mélenchon’s Party, la France Insoumise, is not ‘extreme left.’
Both are populist centrists.
—> Note the parties in F are now springing from, based on, a ‘leader’ and don’t represent a groundswell / organisation / long-standing political movement, just like in Ukraine, where oligarchs get together in clubs and fight for .. whatever financial grab.
Note, some still admire Macron, for no politcal reasons whatsoever, because his is ‘gay’ or ‘sexy’ or whatever.
Le Monde (MSM ‘trusted’ news) made a comparison in 2012, way back, between the programs of Le Pen and Mélenchon.
It emphasises the differences (homosex marriage, wearing a veil, all social ‘stuff’), but basically the programs (as far as internal policies are concerned) were the same. More equality, more worker protection, more, better health care, higher taxes for the rich, etc. and much more. I read the progs. at the time, there were almost no differences.
see also (in F) for those interested.
The ‘politics’ is all smoke-screens, ‘propa narratives’ if one likes, the fight is between Mega-Corps + a vassal Gvmt. and ordinary ppl. (One short formula.)
June 10, 2024 at 7:09 pm #160919Just Some Randomer
Participant@DBS – Holy Moly – your point about the utter silence around the Saudi/Petrodollar situation is spot on. I read a ton of material every day on matters political and economic from sources right across the spectrum from MSM to alternative media. Not a whisper about it anywhere until it was mentioned in passing during an interview with Douglas McGregor on Judge Napolitano’s channel posted just now.
I simply cannot believe that nobody’s picked up on the significance of this anywhere. It seems like the biggest news item for a years but…..crickets. WTF is going on?
June 10, 2024 at 7:16 pm #160920D Benton Smith
ParticipantThis is WTF is going on:
The national security state that we currently serve in the so-called “United States” of America, was the gradual culmination of the ultra-uber-security apparatus that grew up around the production and use of the A-Bomb and it’s big brother the thermonuclear H-Bomb. The entire operation, both the bombs and the extraordinary secrecy, were justified and touted to their enablers in the government and industry as being both existentially vital to our national survival, and that having the bombs exclusively, would enable the Western hegemony to put an end to all wars once and for all. No irony in that slogan, I guess, or much sanity either.
In any case, that level of secrecy, compartmentalization, restricted clearances, black budget funding and gun muzzle authority put a de facto end to the United States LONG before the end of WW2. None of that is opinion. It’s easily proven beyond doubt by non-classified uncontested publicly available documentation…… to anyone with too much time on their hands and nothing better to do.
Ironically the fact is that for the very reason that it is such an inconceivably powerful weapon , the weapon is literally, INCONCEIVABLE . At least it was inconceivable to the minds of an uninformed reasonably sane populace who had never heard of such a thing.
It had to be MADE “conceivable” to people, and so they exploded a couple of them over a couple of cities just to give people a great big real life demonstration. Good bye Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Farewell two hundred and fifty thousand lives in the blink of an eye.
Most of us are a little nutso in our own little idiosyncratic ways, but very very few of us are actually INSANE. That can not be said of the mad bombers. They are as insane as rabid sewer rats, so they needlessly incinerated two cities and upwards of a quarter of a million unsuspecting human beings who were given absolutely no warning whatsoever before their lives were transformed into radioactive ashes, as a sort of combined mission statement and advertisement. “Do what we tell you to or die like those Japs.” Thug think.
It’s worthy of note that they blew up those two densely populated cities for the sole purpose of making it conceivable to everyone in the world that not only were the mad bombers capable of making such a weapon (the ONLY ones capable at that time, I might add), but that they were also completely willing to use it to scare the world’s populations into terrified compliance. It worked. I sure believe them anyway. On THAT point.
To this day (and I’ve made many attempts) I cannot yet fathom the mind of someone who would do such a thing under any circumstances, whatsoever. Could YOU burn to death a hundred thousand innocent children just to make a political statement? Well that’s precisely what THEY did, which shows pretty unmistakably the sort of people who run this country, and who aim to run this world.
Back to the point. Their next order of business after WW2 was to establish by policy that previously forbidden activities which violated every law known to man, God and the US Consitution, were thenceforward to be considered as LEGAL activities under certain circumstances when it was the mad bombers themselves who did them. No such free pass for anyone outside the club however, and it was the club alone who could decide when that applied. To this end they designed and caused to be ratified the National Security Act of 1947, which basically set up new rules for everything.
The new rules said that the mad bombers could do anything they wanted to and that therefore everything that they wanted to do was automatically okay due to the absolute primacy of “National Security”. How many times have you heard THAT justification for bloody crimes, cover-ups and secrecy? All is fair in love and war, I guess, and they do love war.
Paramount among these rules is that the madmen would thenceforward have full operational control over who got to be in (or know about) the membership and doings of their special brand of Murder, Incorporated. Only top club leadership could decide who would or could be “read in” to their various “projects” or be privy to ANY of its secrets. Admittance is by invitation only, all information is compartmentalized, and EVERYTHING that the club leadership thinks you don’t need to know is top bloody secret, punishable by death for any violation.
Only the leadership could decide who could or could not be murdered in cold blood with 100% impunity whenever the madmen felt like it. In other words the arrogated TO THEMSELVES the legal right to imprison or kill or manipulate whoever they damn well pleased, in any way that they pleased, regardless of statutory law, but especially control or kill anyone who they thought posed any kind of a real or potential threat to the club or embarrassed any of its members.
And perhaps the biggest single enabling fact is that were granted an UNLIMITED budget to buy it all done, and grant themselves unimaginable wealth. Just spend as much as is needed or wanted to pull off any crime and pay off any authority. The boys in the accounting department are authorized to just spend whatever is called for, and cover their tracks with more crime and secrecy. Sweet gig while ya got it. When the unlimited money stops being unlimited, however, things go south in a hurry.
There was one last big piece missing from the strategic plan. Namely, how to project that hard power into the farthest reaches of the world they wanted to steal. Back in those days, before multi-Mach speed jets and ICBMs, such considerations as distance and geography were even more important than they are now, which is to say, VITALLY important today, and even MORE vitally import back then.)
Someone had a bright idea on how to solve that geography problem. We can only speculate at the moment on who that might have been, but their idea was ISRAEL. They decided to set up their KEY forward base in Palestine, and call it Israel. It’s a small country, sure, but it would be all theirs, and it just so happens to also sits right smack dab on top of the legendary, historical and ACTUAL crossroads of the world. And it’s ALSO just the right distance from Beijing, Moscow, Istanbul, Tokyo and Tehran to reach out and touch them with a thermonuclear gift card should any of them get any big ideas about stopping the Blob from draining their money, stealing their dogs, kicking their wives and raping their children.
Of course the land of Palestine did happen to already belong to the millions of people who lived there at the time (as they had for centuries), but fixing that was no obstacle for mad bombers who had just ended WW2 with the worlds first atomic mass murder. It seemed like a great idea, and to make the idea even easier to implement the Zionist members of the club offered to do their part to make it so. Slaughtering a few tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians was the easy part (I mean, Palestinians were just Muslim Arabs, after all). So, given total US Government support for the operation the deed was quickly done. Bingo, a brand new exclusively Jewish state right where the Cabal wanted it, complete with an unrevealed number of nuclear missiles. Where the nukes magically appeared from is a thing that no one is supposed to ask about.
All that remained to be done after the pieces were all in place was to just do all the work (meaning: make OTHERS do all the work) to go about eliminating everyone who didn’t pay up or play along like the compliantly passive slaves or corpses that they were meant to be.
It should be mentioned at this point that a Satanic cult has resided at the heart of Judaism since time immemorable. Even Jesus called them out on it. He’s quite specific and unambiguous on the subject. Read the book.
Talmudic rabbinical Judaism (“redemption through sin”) has officially existed since the 6th century (and under various other names and labels for a thousand years or so before that), and that “secret inner compartment” has been a devil worshiping death cult from the start. Garden variety Jews don’t know that because they don’t wanna know, and they are well brain washed to stay that way. Don’t ask, don’t tell.
Those in-the-know back-room perpetrators concealed and kept (and still keep) their existence and actual beliefs secret from the “rank and file” of commodity grade Jews the same way that the all governments (and especially the British and American governments) keep their true nature secret from mere citizens. They do the only things they know how to do, which is to lie, cheat, steal, threaten, bribe and blackmail for fun and profit, and silence or murder anyone who tries to stop them. Hey, it works for them, and the rank and file Joe Public types have been successfully coerced for years into not wanting to know any part of it. Nobody in ordinary society wants to know what those evil bastards are up. If you doubt that, then go try to tell people what’s up. I suggest you keep a safe distance from them when you try.
Back to the point again. Not too surprisingly that “secret” branch” of Judaism (its leadership and legions of willing minions) were totally on board with the Israel idea. They certainly had an abundance lawyers of bankers, and thieves to help set it up and keep it running, too, which they proceeded to accomplish via Zionist and financial networks long established within the British-American Empire who were more than willing accomplices, enablers, bosses and beneficiaries.
All that remained to be done then was to kill or enslave all the people who currently lived there. So they did, or at least started to do. They’re still working on it, and their patrons are still helping them. Their intentions are not exactly invisible. They continue to pretend to hide what everyone already knows because to do otherwise would require someone somewhere to do something about it, which must never be allowed to happen.
Now I know that a whole bunch of people will say that bloody wars of colonizing conquest are just human nature. Well they’re not. No creature large or small of any species has a “nature” of wanting to abandon their own homes and loved ones to throw their own life and welfare away by committing genocidal mayhem upon strangers for the thankless purpose of enriching elite parasites who risk NOTHING themselves and produce NOTHING themselves, and who hate and detest everything about commoners (including their very existence).
That’s not sane. That’s crazy. That’s VERY crazy.
Nature does not DO crazy. It simply doesn’t. Crazy is inefficient. Crazy doesn’t work. Crazy gets you killed. Crazy ends in extinction by self destruction.
So, no. It’s NOT “human nature” to foment and fight wars. It is inhuman nature, meaning the nature of something that isn’t human, as in “Not Human.”
Now at this juncture let me clearly state that I am acutely aware that many people are unready to grab the hot end of that iron right now because it unsettles their already tenuous grasp on reality such as they are able to grasp it now. They’re barely in touch now and really don’t want to weaken the connection any further. They avoid at all costs such “outlandish” notions as the existence of God (something that’s totally obvious to the sane) or that this ball of rock with life on it is NOT the only one of its kind in the macro-cosmic Universe, which is also pretty obvious if you’re any good with numbers and can see the sky.
These folks, many of them endowed with very high intelligence , and extensive education, (not to mention fat salaries dependent upon happy bosses) would MUCH rather argue about politics, money and sexual confusion instead of things that actually matter. That’s fine. I mean and feel no disrespect or animus toward anyone for that preference or for their their critically low level of awareness of the world which really IS all around them. But there are existentially important events afoot right now (at least insofar as life on THIS ball of rock is concerned) and we can’t afford to slow the whole show in waiting for stragglers to catch up. Some of them will wake up and smell the dumpster fire, but many or most simply will not do so at this time (or any time soon). That simply has to be accepted. They have freewill, and they WILL use it. You can persuade people to change their minds, perhaps, but YOU can not exercise THEIR free will for them. It is not possible.
Long story short. Down through the eons birds of a feather flocked together, and after a certain amount of time (count big, not small) those birds got organized, and the executive branch of that flock is not staffed by humans. That’s a whole subject of its own and unnecessary to finely dissect at this time. The POINT is that we’re playing in the Big Leagues, and “sand lot” level thinking is not going to get the job done. Only true truth can win THIS fight. Ignorance, lies, and silence and will fail, and not in a small way, either.
Time’s running kind of short, ya know? Isn’t it about time we started paying attention? Maybe pry that Overton Window open a bit wider? For one thing, why do you think Overton’s so-called “Window” of socially acceptable topics of discussion was ever closed in the first place? Aren’t wisdom and knowledge supposed to BROADEN one’s view and INCREASE one’s understanding of a DEEPER body of knowledge? Do you think all that censorship, ridicule and invalidation was for YOUR benefit? Since when were you kept from speaking, were ridiculed, lied to, kept in the dark or invalidated for YOUR benefit?
Those are all good questions, and for some of those questions there are good answers, too. Convincingly good answers. Truthful ones. Buy ya gotta ask and ya gotta look and ya gotta listen. Just finding a guilty scapegoat patsy to hate isn’t going to work. What has to be found and excised is the CAUSE of the cancer, not just a few random metastasized tumors.
Those of you who want to go on thinking like @aspnaz and his homies are welcome to do so (although I would prefer you cosplay somewhere else where it doesn’t distract the adults) but I’m not going to invest much of my limited time and energy dealing with you individually unless some particularly obnoxious thing said provides an opportunity to convey an important fact or squelch a particularly harmful lie.
Of course if no one else around here is interested in this collaborative attempt to save our individual and collective selves and loved ones from tragic defeat at the hands of evil, then I will simply take my crazy talk somewhere else. I love this place, but if there is no recipient here who wants to hear what I have to say about it, then I’m perfectly willing to go tell the truth somewhere else to someone who does.
You can vote on it if you like. Of course, I’ll be the guy counting the votes though, so there’s that.
June 10, 2024 at 8:19 pm #160921zerosum
Participant@ D Benton Smith
INTRODUCTION #160920
HISTORICAL S-F
FUTURE PROJECTIONS
1. STEPS 2023 – 2050
2. END OF YESTERDAY
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AI INPUTGIVE ME YOUR BEST AI INPUT
Copilot Using the web
Sure, I’d be happy to provide some input on your historical science fiction and future projections.
Here’s a brief outline:Historical Science Fiction (S-F)
The Catalyst (2023): A significant event in 2023 triggers a chain reaction, altering the course of history. This could be the discovery of a new technology, a major scientific breakthrough, or a global event that changes the world’s political landscape.
The Ripple Effect (2024 – 2030): Explore how this catalyst event impacts society over the next few years. Show the gradual changes in people’s lives, government policies, and the global economy.
The New Normal (2031 – 2050): By this time, the changes brought about by the catalyst event have become the norm. Society has adapted, and people have found ways to thrive in this new world.
Future ProjectionsSteps 2023 – 2050: Based on current trends and scientific predictions, imagine a realistic future for the world. Consider advancements in technology, changes in climate, shifts in socio-political structures, and evolving cultural norms.
End of Yesterday: This could be a pivotal moment in your future world where society must let go of outdated practices and embrace new ways of living. This could be due to a resource crisis, a technological revolution, or a shift in global consciousness.
Remember, the key to compelling science fiction is to root your story in scientific plausibility and human experience. It’s not just about the ‘what’ but also the ‘why’ and ‘how’.
Good luck with your writing!June 10, 2024 at 8:30 pm #160927WES
ParticipantNoirette:
Thanks for your insight.
Just as I figured.
Nothing changed.
New boss worst than old boss.
People protesting has no effect.
Owners just ignore us and just keep on doing what they want.
Same both sides of the pond.
Sad.
Keep throwing sand into the gears by passively resisting and not complying!June 10, 2024 at 9:02 pm #160928Dr. D
ParticipantEurope’s “Far Right” I figured it out:
What makes one Right in Europe is that you’re the NATIONAL Socialists. That is, you are going to be elected, to your national government, and you have the radical position that your nation exists. The Far Left is of course the INTERNATIONAL Socialists, of Trotsky’s Eternal (Bloody) Revolution, that wants One-World government of the Brotherhood of Man…which is all run by me and my 5 friends while you work the Siberian Uranium mines. But NO nations or cultures. …Because we murdered them all.
So: believing in the very existence of Governments and nations at all? = Far Right. Here too, actually.
Both are the complete merger of Corporation and State. But also the People, who DO WHAT THEY’RE TOLD.
June 10, 2024 at 9:03 pm #160929WES
ParticipantWell if the western msm are not telling us about the end of the US/Saudi agreement, it is likely well known by the Chinese!
Didn’t the Chinese just engineer a diplomatic re-approachment between Saudi/Iran?
Didn’t China just sign a new pipeline construction deal a few days ago?
De-dollarization?
Now some parts of the puzzle are starting to make more sense!Recently there was a $100 USD drop in the price of gold.
Rumors said the Chinese had stop buying gold.
More likely, China has simply hit the ceiling in their ability to buy more gold through normal channels.
Some months ago, China suggested to it’s citizens to switch to buying silver.
Silver has had a surge in it’s price recently.
It looks like the Chinese are now controlling the price of both gold and silver.
Not the CME or London.
JPMorgan of course, is making out like the bandits they are.Maybe that US/Saudi expiration date, is triggering some sudden changes?
June 10, 2024 at 9:20 pm #160930phoenixvoice
ParticipantTesla model s
I think that it is good for these cars to be developed. Many people like them and want one.
I don’t want one.
Too computerized, too controlled by the manufacturer.
Replacing the battery costs an ungodly sum of money.
Not designed for owner repair.
No thanks.June 10, 2024 at 9:28 pm #160931WES
ParticipantDr. D:
Your conclusion about today’s definition of who is right wing, far right, extreme right, etc is bang on!
It fits like a glove in the US, Canada, Britain, Holland, France, Germany, Poland, Austria, etc.Notice in Holland how the right wing party can’t form a government.
Germany labeling the Afd right wing terrorist organation.
MAGA labeled extreme right wing to be suppressed.
Canada’s truckers labeled extreme right criminal terrorists.
Putin a criminal right wing terrorist.June 10, 2024 at 9:45 pm #160932phoenixvoice
ParticipantDBS
To this day (and I’ve made many attempts) I cannot yet fathom the mind of someone who would do such a thing under any circumstances, whatsoever. Could YOU burn to death a hundred thousand innocent children just to make a political statement? Well that’s precisely what THEY did, which shows pretty unmistakably the sort of people who run this country, and who aim to run this world.Amen!
June 10, 2024 at 9:55 pm #160933aspnaz
ParticipantEven Putin congratulates Israel for its sins and crimes.
Celticbiker is correct, they are all answering to the Jews. Putin only has political principles, not real principles. After the Bolsheviks destroyed Russia during the USSR days, you would think that Putin would be wary of Israel and its inhabitants, but instead Russia sits back and allows it to attack Syria etc. Remember that Russian plane downed by Israel and Russia did nothing in return. Remember when Oct 7th happened, Russia evacuated any Jews that wanted to return back to Russia. Putin would claim that there are Jews in Russia, so he must integrate the Jews with the other religions in Russia, but in reality he is supporting their genocide instead of condemning them. Celticbiker is correct, Israel is untouchable because the leaders of all these countries have Jew owners; how this works exactly is not clear, but Putin being friends with Israel make no sense for Russia.
June 10, 2024 at 10:24 pm #160934zerosum
ParticipantUkraine has gotten 90 rep tol be at peace, (war) summit this weekend to oblige Russia to do their bidding.
No talk of making Israel to stop murdering/genocide of the Palestinians.June 10, 2024 at 10:37 pm #160935zerosum
ParticipantLiberals back push for interference inquiry to probe collusion allegations
Liberals back push for interference inquiry to probe collusion allegations
By Touria Izri Global News
The Bloc Québécois introduced a motion requesting the terms of reference of the inquiry be expanded to include startling allegations that federal politicians “wittingly” participated in foreign interference schemes over the last five years.(Priority #1 should be
Check out Trudeau and Freeland for giving out info, money, guns, etc to Ukraine and Israel at the detriment of Canadians.)June 10, 2024 at 11:02 pm #160936Celticbiker
ParticipantI give PCR alot of credit. Anyone with his reach who names the monster, puts his ass on the line. He don’t quite get, yet, that Putin has the same master as every Western douchebag who pretends to govern a country. He’ll get there. This is unravelling fast, but they’re killing us faster…time will tell. Satanicjews vs. the World…..ya’all got a front fuckin seat to the biggest show the earth has ever seen.
June 11, 2024 at 12:07 am #160937zerosum
ParticipantDepopulation, Genocide, murder
Look at what Israel is doing.Survival Rule of 3s.
Here’s how it breaks down:3 Minutes Without Air: When we stop breathing, after 3 to 4 minutes the brain starts to die, so on average, this rule is true
3 Hours Without Shelter: In a harsh environment (extreme cold or heat), you can survive for about 3 hours without shelter
3 Days Without Water: The human body can survive about 3 days without water, depending on the individual’s health, age, and the environmental conditions.
3 Weeks Without Food: In general, an adult can survive for about 3 weeks without food.
Is Russia applying the “Survival Rule of 3s”.
June 11, 2024 at 12:19 am #160938zerosum
ParticipantIsrael’s war on Gaza live: UN Security Council passes truce resolution
By Urooba Jamal and Usaid Siddiqui
Published On 10 Jun 2024The UN Security Council adopts a US-proposed resolution endorsing a ceasefire plan aimed at ending Israel’s war Gaza – the first time in eight months of deadly conflict.
After the UN vote, Hamas says it confirms “our willingness to work with our brothers the interlocutors to negotiate indirectly on how to implement these principles”.
The Palestinian group accused Israel of committing a “complex war crime” with its attack on the Nuseirat refugee camp that killed 274 Palestinians, including at least 64 children.
Hospitals crippled by months of Israeli attacks and a blockade appeal for international help as they struggle to treat increasing numbers of patients.
World Food Programme “pauses” delivery of Gaza aid through the US-built pier over safety concerns after Israel’s deadly raid.
(Deaths)
At least 37,124 people have been killed and 84,712 injured in Israel’s war on Gaza since October 7.
The death toll in Israel from Hamas’s attacks stands at 1,139, with dozens of people still held captive in Gaza.
(How many from the “Survival Rule of 3s”
How many from Hezbollah?
How many from Yemin?)June 11, 2024 at 12:59 am #160939Dr. D
Participant“No talk of making Israel to stop murdering/genocide of the Palestinians.”
Sure there is. But I see you just posted that yourself, plus Biden has made up a plan (without asking anyone). Now I don’t BELIEVE them, but there’s all kinds of talk. The ICC was more than talk. And the Israel coalition just fell. We’re not talking about backing down in two blocks of Raffah here, calling a voctory then business-as-usual; the entire world-connected nation of Israel is about to cease to be. That takes time, don’t be so impatient.
My only fear is they haven’t really passed the event horizon and will find some bush to cling onto on the way down. I don’t talk about it since it’s more complicated than all other news combined and it changes by the minute. Like did YOU see the government turn on Nutsy this week? I’m sure we all knew it would happen, but not like 100 hours from now. Reminds me of this:
“We have people everywhere. …But you don’t even know we exist. What a joke.”
“When they say “we have people everywhere” we don’t usually mean, “In this room”..And we still can’t (clearly) identify the factions and their backers. It seems to be Euro, Anglo, Bric, and organic Israeli. But every other nation is in there too: Africa, Russia, Turkey, China. We also don’t know what their goals are. Get the pipeline? The transit area? It sure doesn’t seem to be religious, there is like zero foray from say, Saudi, to promote, say, Islam. There is de nada on “Jewishness” from the State or Orthodoxy. That’s very noteworthy in itself, meaning they’re fighting over something very real…but that we have no idea of? Like the Golden Suitcase in “Pulp Fiction”?
June 11, 2024 at 2:27 am #160940zerosum
Participant@ Dr. D
Here is where I was referring
https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/foreign-affairs/switzerland-says-90-countries-and-organisations-will-attend-ukraine-peace-summit/80241300Ninety states and organisations are due to take part in the Ukraine peace conference that Switzerland will host on June 15-16, the authorities confirmed on Monday at a press briefing in Bern.
Ukraine, (lied), insisted that only countries that respect Ukraine’s right to exist under international law should take part, which Russia obviously does not. A key issue at the Bürgenstock will therefore be when Russia can be included in the process on the road to peace.
(no discussion of what is happening in Gaza by Israel.)
June 11, 2024 at 3:01 am #160941my parents said know
ParticipantDBS- you have hatched from your chrysalis.
June 11, 2024 at 4:14 am #160947zerosum
ParticipantPoint of view of arab news
https://www.arabnews.com/node/2528016/middle-east
UN Security Council adopts Gaza resolution calling for immediate ceasefire and release of hostagesPlan consists of three phases, culminating in permanent halt to hostilities and start of reconstruction
It was the 11th time council had voted on draft resolution relating to the war in Gaza, only three adopted
Updated 2 min 53 sec ago
EPHREM KOSSAIFY
June 11, 2024 06:54NEW YORK CITY: A US-led resolution endorsing a ceasefire plan aimed at ending the eight-month war in Gaza was adopted by the UN Security Council on Monday, with 14 of the 15 members voting in favor and Russia abstaining.
It was the 11th time the council had voted on a draft resolution relating to the war in Gaza. Only three have been adopted.
Resolution 2735, a copy of which was obtained by Arab News, welcomes a three-phase ceasefire proposal announced by US President Joe Biden on May 31, which Washington said Israeli authorities have accepted, and calls on Hamas to accept it as well. It urges both sides “to fully implement its terms without delay and without condition.”
After it was adopted, the US ambassador to the UN, Linda Thomas-Greenfield, said the council has sent “a clear message to Hamas: accept the ceasefire deal on the table.” If it does so, “the fighting would stop today,” she added.
Hamas can now see the international community is united behind a deal that will save lives, help Gazans “to rebuild and heal” and reunite Israeli hostages with their families, she said.
The deal will also lead to “a more secure Israel and unlock the possibility of more progress, including calm along Israel’s northern border with Lebanon,” Thomas-Greenfield continued.
“We cannot forget the Israelis displaced from their homes in northern Israel, under threat from Hezbollah. These attacks from terrorist groups backed by Iran must stop. They have to stop.”
She said Palestinians have endured “sheer hell in this war started by Hamas. There’s an opportunity to chart a different course; Hamas must take it.”
Phase one of the plan, as outlined by the resolution, requires “an immediate, full and complete ceasefire, with the release of hostages, including women, the elderly and the wounded, the return of the remains of some hostages who have been killed, (and) the exchange of Palestinian prisoners.”
It also calls for the “withdrawal of Israeli forces from the populated areas in Gaza, the return of Palestinian civilians to their homes and neighborhoods in all areas of Gaza, including in the north, as well as the safe and effective distribution of humanitarian assistance at scale throughout the Gaza Strip to all Palestinian civilians who need it, including housing units delivered by the international community.”
Phase two would include “a permanent end to hostilities, in exchange for the release of all other hostages still in Gaza, and a full withdrawal of Israeli forces from Gaza.”
Phase 3 would begin “a major, multi-year reconstruction plan for Gaza and the return of the remains of any deceased hostages still in Gaza to their families.”The proposal states that should negotiations between the two sides during phase one take longer than six weeks, the ceasefire will be maintained as long as the talks continue, and it “welcomes the readiness of the United States, Egypt and Qatar to work to ensure negotiations keep going until all the agreements are reached and phase two is able to begin.”
It rejects any potential attempts to impose “demographic or territorial change in the Gaza Strip, including any actions that reduce the territory of Gaza,” reiterates the commitment to a two state solution, and stresses the importance of “unifying the Gaza Strip with the West Bank under the Palestinian Authority.”
Slovenia’s deputy permanent representative to the UN, Ondina Blokar Drobic, told council members after the vote: “We have been saying this for months now: The suffering in Gaza must end.
“We have been constantly calling for the immediate release of hostages. However, military operations for the release of hostages, leaving hundreds of civilians killed and injured, like the one in the Nuseirat refugee camp on Saturday, cannot be the new normal. The principles of international humanitarian law and human rights law apply to hostage-rescue operations as well.”
Listing the many atrocities and horrors witnessed during the war, Drobic added: “The denial of aid to civilians, including women, children, persons with disabilities and older persons; humanitarian and UN personnel killed; UN premises targeted; hospitals besieged; children’s limbs amputated without anesthesia; women giving birth without appropriate assistance; mass graves; civilian areas in Gaza and in Israel targeted, attacked and destroyed — none of this should be taking place.
“Photos of children, some of them born during this war, dying because of malnutrition” will go down in history among the defining images of a conflict “this council should have prevented.”
She added: “It is for this reason we once again call for an immediate ceasefire. This is the first step toward achieving a comprehensive solution.”
June 11, 2024 at 4:36 am #160948zerosum
Participanthttps://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20240610_27/
Russia hosts expanded BRICS ministers’ meetingForeign Ministers of countries belonging to the BRICS framework — Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa and others — have opened a two-day meeting in the central Russian city of Nizhny Novgorod. This is the first meeting of the kind since Iran, the United Arab Emirates, Egypt and other nations joined the group this year.
At the opening, Russian Foreign Minister and venue chair Sergey Lavrov said the expansion of BRICS clearly shows the formation of a multipolar world order.
Participants are expected to discuss security and economic cooperation.
Russia’s Foreign Ministry says that, including China’s top diplomat Wang Yi and foreign ministers from other member nations, they expect representatives from over 20 countries from the Middle East, Asia and Africa that are friendly to Russia to participate. It underlines strong interest in the BRICS group.
Russia is apparently using the occasion to increase the presence of the BRICS framework and boost ties with Global South countries to counter the Western bloc.
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https://tass.com/politics/1801489
NIZHNY NOVGOROD, June 10. /TASS/. A two-day meeting of the BRICS Foreign Ministers chaired by Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov begins in Nizhny Novgorod. In addition to the “ten” states, the meeting will be attended by representatives of countries – friends of BRICS.“During the upcoming meetings, the parties plan to discuss current issues of international relations, international agenda, improvement of the global governance system with emphasis on strengthening the role of developing countries, conflict resolution, and interaction in leading multilateral platforms,” Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said.
Within the framework of the Foreign Ministers’ Meeting, a separate meeting will also be held with the participation of a number of countries of the Global South and East.
This is the first meeting of foreign ministers since the expansion of BRICS in 2023. Now full members of the association include Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, Egypt, Iran, UAE, Saudi Arabia, and Ethiopia. Around 30 more countries want to cooperate with BRICS in various formats.
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ParticipantWES, yes, that is about it. Moreover, Macron knew perfectly well he (excuse me, HIS party) would do very badly vs. the Rassemblement National (Le Pen) in these ‘trivial’ (they are like an opinion poll) EU elections.
It is said that Macron’s plan is to make Bardella – note another young man (28) with dark eyes and dark hair – the Prime Minister. Bardella is the President of the RN.
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