Debt Rattle June 24 2020
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June 24, 2020 at 12:09 pm #60379Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymaster
Dorothea Lange Arkansas flood refugee family near Memphis, Texas 1937 • 80% of COVID19 Cases In The US Went Undetected In March (CNN) • What th
[See the full post at: Debt Rattle June 24 2020]June 24, 2020 at 12:53 pm #60380V. ArnoldParticipantHumans are going through a period of insanity.
Usians are especially ill, with an organic psychosis; 90+% infected.
…and there is no cure except time…
…and there may not be enough time left…
Some few countries, with their cultures intact, are finding ways to deal with this malaise…
The west will likely fail and succumb…the majority of Asia will survive, but possibly not thrive, as it has in the past.
Cycles, we’ve never understood cycles over the long term…
Exceptionalism is a fatal condition, never ending well.
Reality is the life raft; grab it while you can………..June 24, 2020 at 12:56 pm #60381Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymasterWES,
Interesting comparison yesterday, which I just now saw, between 2010 and 2020. Worth diving deeper into. Sources?
June 24, 2020 at 1:13 pm #60383boscohorowitzParticipantThing about both Mockingbird and FInn is that they’re unique masterpieces of rare order. Both are close to plotless, especially Mockingbird. Both pull readers in effortlessly, altho Finn struggles with the transition from river-rafting to the Duke and Dauphin second half. Both books make you think without being overtly polemic.
Remember how HUck eluded capture by pretending his family was dyng of smallpox? See? Covid-relative.;)
June 24, 2020 at 1:14 pm #60384John DayParticipantThis pertains to last night’s comments about the race of Jesus of Nazareth, “not white”, but almost certainly “Caucasian” as the American public school and immigration systems could classify him.
He lived in Nazareth, a fishing village on the Mediterranean, and likely spoke Greek, at least for business.
The main thing about Jesus was not the melanin content of his skin, but that what he said was what he got crucified for. You had to be a threat to the Roman power structure, “troublemaker” to earn crucifixion.
It took a couple hundred years to rewrite his story to what would serve as the religion of the Roman Empire.
Jesus taught “Gospel”, “good news”, which was broadly understood to be debt repudiation for all, the “Jubilee”. That’s why he got killed after chasing the “money changers” out of the temple with a whip, about a week after that, the best history can tell.
Economic Historian, Professor Michael Hudson has the story:reece was in a civil war over “jubilee” about then. Guess which side lost.
https://michael-hudson.com/2017/12/he-died-for-our-debt-not-our-sins/June 24, 2020 at 1:21 pm #60385boscohorowitzParticipantI like the Taleb quote about freedom/academia.
Credentials. Here’s an example of credentials: USDA CHOICE. (for those outside USA, that is a standard of meat quality as certified by the USA Dept of Agriculture.
June 24, 2020 at 1:59 pm #60387John DayParticipantTexas has a large population, and Houston has a very large population with coronavirus spreading rampantly. It’s hot enough in Houston for people to want to be inside in the AC, what I’ll call “the Phoenix effect”, where people clump indoors in summer, not just winter. Houston cases may soon be surpassing New York. I’m keeping my eye on Houston. San Marcos, home of Texas State University and tubing on the San Marcos River is having a big surge in cases. This is the prototypical Texas party-college town. Nice place. My 2 younger kids are grads in Engineering and Math.
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/06/22/texas-coronavirus-cases-hospitalizations-austin-houston-dallas/June 24, 2020 at 1:59 pm #60388zerosumParticipantFrom John Day
…. continued
Rewritting history
He died for our debt, not our sins
By Michael Hudson(https://renegadeinc.com/ )
Will, one day, Having “Renegade bookmarks”, ( “Rewritting history”), be as bad as having porn bookmarks?
——June 24, 2020 at 2:17 pm #60389zerosumParticipant@ John Day
I read your link.
I would presume to think that you have a concern about your kids getting the convid19 since they are part the the group, that I’m reading about, that are now getting the convid19.
Good luck.
“It’s hot enough in Houston”
I thought that covid19 cases was expected to go down in the summer.
Due to my “senior moments”, I could not tabulate the number of forecasts that had to be changed.
I’m sure that more forecast will have to be changed.Since the USA health system is the best in the world, any country reporting less infections and deaths than the USA is lying.
June 24, 2020 at 2:40 pm #60390Dr. DParticipantDon’t worry about Twain : really they’re just banning reality itself. It conflicts with their ego, so you know which one will have to change. Me? Or should I destroy everything on earth, past, present, and future? The choice is clear…
“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which — I — am always Right.” – George Orwell, “1984”
Daily new cases = daily new testing. Hey, does this mean that with every test the denominator gets larger so the death rate gets smaller? Why yes it does. Texas! Panic! Rates rising (due to testing). Rate? 0.007% (2.2k : 30M)
Since Putin knows who started WWII, he’s warning us against making the same mistake (again). But don’t worry: the West will never learn. Why should they? It’s your sons who die, not theirs.
Did the Guardian really just say information and journalism is the same and equal whether you’re on the ground in battle or on your sofa reading Twitter? Yes they did. Because they’re The Guardian. Sure saves a lot of money on sending people places and having them know things! You know, where you talk to people, confirm things, call them on the phone? OMG, don’t you TXT? Bored already.
P.S. The Guardian ran a bunch of bogus pics, pretty much constantly, I’m thinking of the ones done on a movie set in Egypt pretending to be Syria. Like ISIS, blue-checkmark approved! Totally supported while the people calling out fake chlorine and fake WHO were banned.
“Johnson and May Ignored Claims Russia Had ‘Likely Hold’ Over Trump (G.)”
So the gist of the article is that BoJo and May were totally, completely right? And the claims of MI6 were totally, completely wrong? Because Mueller and 100 congressional committees found nothing in 4 years of trying?
Steele, who said under oath his data was completely, hilariously unverified and was doing your garden-variety every-year election-tampering of British interests in all elections worldwide, claims May should have looked further into his fabricated election-rigging stories. I agree. In order to fire and/or prosecute Mr. Steele and all of MI6 for attacking an ally. I’m thinking the room next to Skripal, since they, and he, and their handler were all close pals. Coincidentally.
Remember, they’re at it again, with a British org calling on crooked-by-certified NBC
journalistsactivists to get one side’s election banned from the internet. With friends like these…Speaking of, so yesterday Twitter says it’s a violation of service to enforce the rules. Yes. We know you feel that way. You haven’t enforced the rules fairly since you were born, or since 230 was written. The only crime is enforcing the law. In this case the speaker was the president, and the law was saying that it’s is indeed a federal crime to secede from the Union. How dare you!
Bonus? Twitter says, “This violates our terms of service but we kept it visible in the public interest.” No. No you didn’t. Because they opened their mouth, it is therefore a lie. You kept it up because a Federal Judge has already heard the case and told you you could NOT remove the President’s posts, because they are a de-facto public platform and service. You can’t remove them even if you wanted to without civil or criminal prosecution. But keep jabbering away your nonsense and pretend threats. Hey, wouldn’t that be “editorializing” and therefore grounds for removing 230 protection?
Ah, if only someone would enforce the law. Say, whose job is that anyway? Who’s the top policeman?
June 24, 2020 at 2:42 pm #60391zerosumParticipantWAR
TARIFFS is a weapon of modern warfare
INTEREST is an ancient weapon for modern warfare
SIEGES, SHUNNING, ISOLATION, continue to be modernize for modern warfare
The US DOLLAR IS STILL A WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION
TAXES on APPL, MSFT, AMZN, GOOG, FB (WS) is a trickle down weapon on the rifraf
covid19 is a weapon of Mother earthUS Draws Up Plan To Slap Tariffs On $3.1 Billion In European Goods
June 24, 2020 at 2:59 pm #60392my parents said knowParticipantLincoln County, Oregon, has exempted non-white people from a new order requiring that face coverings be worn in public — to prevent racial profiling. (NY Post June 23)
Fauci on masks- People had bandanas, gingham, and sewing machines back in March, too.
I look for them when I go out-
Sometimes it takes a while.
But when I see one I return
That happy gracious smile.June 24, 2020 at 3:20 pm #60393John DayParticipant@Zerosum, “The Kids Are Alright”, all responsible adults, MD in San Antonio, COVID Ward, Engineer in Dallas, Engineer in Ft Worth, Mathematician in Rochester, coming soon to Austin for PhD in Statistics.
We’re all taking vitamin-D and avoiding bars, churches, gyms and riots. We’ll all catch the virus some day, but it’s OK because we eat lots of fresh vegetables, and we all have our hydroxychloroquine, zinc, vitamin-C and NAC in-hand….June 24, 2020 at 3:23 pm #60394John DayParticipantOh, about cases going down in summer. They go up in enclosed spaces with lots of people. In hot summer weather people congregate in AC, indoors, and party. Houston is a fairly wild city. I went to Med School there. Lotsa’ places you want to avoid in Houston. Tough gangs of many colors and mean cops.
June 24, 2020 at 3:30 pm #60395ArttuaParticipantAcademic freedom, David Graber, Debt the first 5000 years, was fired from Yale for his involvement in Occupy Wall Street.
June 24, 2020 at 3:34 pm #60396boscohorowitzParticipantThe transition from resource-rich globalization to resource-poor balkanization>tribalization is in progress. Nothing will stop this short of a miracle. Monolithic Orwellian police statism has already happened and is in major decline, it being an artifact of globalization.
Personally, if we are to ban books, I think we should ban the works of Ayn Rand and George Orwell. Ayn because she was a sociopathic fruitcake, George because his dystopian vision of human society assumed Modernism’s belief in an infinite supply of energy by which Pharaoh could ever expand and tighten his control.
Ancient Egypt was a water empire. Modern Euromerica ia a fossil fuel empire. It’s been a long long time since slaves dragged bricks to the pyramid building complex. Large monolithic totalitarianisms are great fun for scaring the shit out of oneself but they are so done, so 20th century. 1984 is 36 years behind us. Slavery and oppression will have to constantly downsize with the general positively entropic flow.
Regional plantations based on feudal peasantry seem to be the first step on our voyage backward through the history of human civilization. The descent of man. A Second Fall, if you will. Before moving to Portland I spent almost 30 years in Spokane. Spokane lies NE of the Inland Northwest grain belt and Hanford Nuclear Reservation. A downwinder, I was, breathing lots of Round-Up and radioactive fumes. Makes a man tough. 😉
Just south of Spokane ends the Palouse, a plateau of ridiculously fertile soil hence the wheat fields. I watched McMansions (and 1 or 2 real mansions) get built on 10-100 acre parcels (about 7-70 football fields). Perfect size for plantations although I highly doubt any of the doctors and lawyers who bought these parcels think that way at all. They like the tax write-off, luxury views, and the notion of turning those acres into vineyards.
But those who manage to hold on to these properties will probably provide their children with the basic requirements of a plantation… if they can hold onto it when ammunition becomes a primary form of currency.
This assumes, of course, an absence of thermonuclear rain, which is always the biggest invisible elephant in the room, the one we rarely talk about.
What to do?
This desert bombshell was named Priscilla:
So was this bombshell:
June 24, 2020 at 3:36 pm #60397John DayParticipant@Dr.D
Rapidly rising new infection rates are lagged by hospitalizations a week later and deaths a week after that. We all agonized about those things here in March, right.
The Texas percent positive on testing is around 9%. It never got below 6% that I know of. Mine started at 25-30% and is now around 15%. The people I test often have positive family contacts these days.
I’m personally hopeful that it will turn out to be a GOOD thing to have a lot of cases in outdoorsy young people in Texas this summer. I’m really, truly hoping that. It could be, but we won’t really know until Valentine’s Day, will we?
The potential positive is that this pool of spreaders will get saturated early (soon) and then not do much spreading next winter. My personal experience in Texas, with my patients, is that vitamin-D levels peak in the summer. It also stands to reason.
This is the best time to get coronvirused if you don’t take vitamin-D, which most people don’t. That should lead to minimal casualties-per-case this summer.
Again, we’ll have to see cases level off before we see how bad it is per case.June 24, 2020 at 3:38 pm #60398John DayParticipantIn a major victory for Michael Flynn, the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit has ordered Judge Emmet Sullivan to grant the Justice Department’s request to dismiss the case against the former Trump National Security Adviser. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/appeals-court-orders-flynn-judge-dismiss-case
June 24, 2020 at 3:40 pm #60399boscohorowitzParticipantbtw, the latter link is a terrific song. Here it is live with a top band and a sexy stretchout:
June 24, 2020 at 3:44 pm #60400John DayParticipant@Boscohorowitz, Yeah, a plantation. I’m making my one-man-weekend-worker-half-acre-Mexican-avocado plantation in Yoakum. I’ve put in my own seed-money and sweat-equity. We’ll see how it goes.
On Egyptian-water-imperialism-in-decline https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/06/egypt-is-facing-two-wars-how-will-sisi-decide.html#more
June 24, 2020 at 4:00 pm #60401boscohorowitzParticipantThe irony of donning blackface makeup to avoid wearing a mask tickles my funnybones.
JohnD: it must be hard having to do both parts of the call’n’response work song by yourself:
June 24, 2020 at 4:35 pm #60402zerosumParticipant“Regional plantations based on feudal peasantry”
I’ve just had the discussion,“Land always go up in value. Always good to buy land”
What was missing in that opinion was
1. that there must be income to cover the expenses or else you will be forced to sell at a loss.
2. If there is no income, then the expenses,(taxes, etc.) must be covered from other income.
3. Selling price of property must cover the accumulated compound expenses
4. Operation cost of that enterprise on that land, (farming, livestocks, mfg., renting, retail, etc. must be enough to feed everyone, (family, employee etc.) and pay expenses, (gas, electricity, water, etc)
5. The secret of being a successful “rentier” have not been taught to the rifrafJune 24, 2020 at 4:58 pm #60403Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymasterThe Michael Flynn thing will be a very big story going forward. I’ve had an article pending since early May, kid you not, but it keeps on changing and being added to. Flynn is essentially gagged until this is really thrown out, but Sidney Powell will have planned things no matter what. There’s only 4.5 months left till the election, and she will want to charge Comey, Strzok, McCabe, Biden, Susan Rice, Sally Yates and Obama. But summer’s coming, and Capitol Hill is going to close down. Crazy days.
June 24, 2020 at 4:59 pm #60404John DayParticipant“Deep State Fixes Stuff ” post is up, but you’ve seen some of it already.
http://www.johndayblog.com/2020/06/deep-state-fixes-stuff.htmlFear in the JFK Assassination, Part 1
(The mystery of how the USMC taught Lee Oswald Russian and Communism)
One of the fascinating phenomena in the JFK assassination is the fear of some Americans to consider the possibility that the assassination was actually a regime-change operation carried out by the U.S. national-security establishment rather than simply a murder carried out by a supposed lone-nut assassin...
Indeed, if you want a modern-day version of how the U.S. national-security state treats suspected traitors and betrayers of its secrets, reflect on Julian Assange, Edward Snowden, and Chelsea Manning. That’s how we expect national-security state officials to behave toward those they consider traitors and betrayers of U.S. secrets.
Not so with Oswald. With him, we have what amounts to two separate parallel universes. One universe involves all the Cold War hoopla against communists. Another one is the one in which Oswald is sauntering across the world stage as one of America’s biggest self-proclaimed communists — a U.S. Marine communist — who isn’t touched by some congressional investigative committee, some federal grand jury, or some FBI agent. How is that possible?
Later, when Oswald ended up in Dallas, his friends were right-wingers, not left-wingers. He even got a job at a photographic facility that developed top-secret photographs for the U.S. government. How is that possible? Later, when he ended up in New Orleans, he got hired by a private company that was owned by a fierce anti-communist right-winger. Why would he hire a supposed communist who supposedly had betrayed America by supposedly joining up with America’s avowed communist enemy, the Soviet Union, and to whom he had supposedly given U.S. national-security state secrets, just like Julian and Ethel Rosenberg had? According to the latest Goldman state-level coronavirus tracker, the prevalence of coronavirus symptoms is rising, with the share of patients seeking care with symptoms of Covid-like illness at 3.5%, up 0.4% from 2 weeks ago. Daily confirmed new cases have risen steadily over the past several days to 86 per million, ending a 2-month decline. A big part of this is due to increased testing: indeed, the volume of daily coronavirus tests has risen 23% over the last two weeks, while the positive test rate has risen by 1.3pp to 6.2%. On the flipside, fatalities have declined over the last two weeks (-12% to 1.9 per million), although fatalities lag new cases by multiple weeks
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/latest-state-level-coronavirus-tracker-shows-alarming-trend-reversalEpidemiologists respond to a poll of when they might “get back to normal” with various activities, like fetching the mail without a mask. Interesting…
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/06/coronavirus-covid19-life-social-distancing-noramlity-chart/It’s hard to figure out some of these statistics, but higher-home-values probably relates to higher urban density, and high summer temperatures and low winter temperatures both make people congregate indoors. COVID-death-rate-Statistics:
Counties with higher home values, higher summer temperatures, and lower winter temperatures have higher death rates.
https://www.nber.org/papers/w27391June 24, 2020 at 6:04 pm #60405boscohorowitzParticipantLet’s enjoy some AMericana:
June 24, 2020 at 9:45 pm #60407boscohorowitzParticipantHardly known, these guys. Leader of Big Country teams up with Nashville sionger-songwriter. Sadly, Stuart Adamson, BC’s leader, hung hiumself not long after this record’s release.
With superior lyrics like these, for example:
You don’t mess around with a man in black,
You will say something wrong that you can’t take back,
You wll go for a ride in his automobile,
To a spot in the woods, just over the hill.
No, you don’t mess around with a man in black.
You don’t fool around with a woman in red,
You’ll wake up alone in a cold, barren bed
And she’ll empty your pockets and tear out your heart,
And leave you the wounds of a life torn apart.
No, you don’t fool around with a woman in red.
Oh, you never make deals with a man named Doc
Or you’ll have a gun in your hand by twelve o’clock,
‘Neath the sodium lights with your heart in your throat,
Your life won’t amount to a bottle of smoke.
No, you never make deals with a man named Doc.
Don’t bring me your tales of temptation and loss,
The rags of your dreams, your shattered cross,
You see, I’ve heard your confession, I know just who you blame
And if you had it all back you’d just lose it again.
You can’t think on redemption if you aint saved,
Don’t tell me your tales of temptation and loss;
Don’t bing me the pieces of your shattered cross.June 24, 2020 at 9:52 pm #60408thomasjkenneyParticipantre: the rant – very eloquent! The omnipotence has always been a veneer. It is ridiculously easy to gum up the works…especially for passive/aggressives such as myself.
re: americana, Amargos – Northern Concerto
June 24, 2020 at 11:20 pm #60409zerosumParticipantnavel-gazing
Noun
An excessive and narcissistic focus on oneself
An act of meditation or self-introspection
A consideration for or reasoning
The act or process of introverting or the quality of being introverted
Adjective
Examining one’s own perceptions and sensory experienceshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_thyself
The Ancient Greek aphorism “know thyself” (Greek: γνῶθι σεαυτόν, transliterated: gnōthi seauton; also … σαυτόν … sauton with the ε contracted), is one of the Delphic maxims and was the first of three maxims inscribed in the pronaos (forecourt) of the Temple of Apollo at Delphi according to the Greek writer Pausanias (10.24.1).[1] The two maxims that followed “know thyself” were “nothing to excess” and “surety brings ruin”.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introspection
Introspection is the examination of one’s own conscious thoughts and feelings.[1] In psychology, the process of introspection relies exclusively on observation of one’s mental state, while in a spiritual context it may refer to the examination of one’s soul. Introspection is closely related to human self-reflection and self-discovery and is contrasted with external observation.June 24, 2020 at 11:34 pm #60410boscohorowitzParticipant” It is ridiculously easy to gum up the works…especially for passive/aggressives such as myself.”
HA! YOu made me laugh! A solid old man wheezer! Graci. I go now to enjoy the suggested music.
June 24, 2020 at 11:39 pm #60411boscohorowitzParticipantWow. Contemporay classical music that doesn’t sound self-consciously ‘postmodern’ or anything but an ongoing exploration of the possibilities of written orchestral music using mostly tonic musical methods. And the guy’s using a recorder impossibly well. But he seems more Spanicana than Americana.
June 25, 2020 at 12:24 am #60412boscohorowitzParticipanttonal not tonic. *snicker*
June 25, 2020 at 12:33 am #60413thomasjkenneyParticipant@bosco re: Spaniard, yes, Catalan at that, and I finally found liner notes for a different recording, states that it is meant to be ‘aterritorial’ to evoke northern scenes from anywhere. It grabbed me as ‘proto-american’ because it is very similar to some works by Villalobos and Ginastera. Perfect time for such chaotic and stirring music, eh?
From the other end of my americana concept: The Band – It Makes No Difference. My dad had a reel-to-reel, and I discovered ‘Music From Big Pink’ at an early age, about the same time I was also ingesting Niel Diamond, John Denver, Gordon Lightfoot, Three Dog Night, Jimi Hendrix, Earth, Wind & Fire, Joni Mitchell, Switched On Bach, 1812 Overture, the soundtrack from 2001: A Space Odessey.
When I returned to my car from a (30km trail/gravel) bike ride last night I heard hopeful noises. The location at which I was parked is deep in the woods. There are several summer camps nearby, and the closest was emanating the joyous sounds of piano and singers. Seems the benefits of community outweigh the fear for some.
June 25, 2020 at 2:28 am #60414boscohorowitzParticipantRegarding the benefits of community: the inability of a deeply hypnotized populace to do anything but what they’re told (and as little of that as possible) precluded the inability of most people to adjust to covid in any but a bipolar way: run inside and hide from the Black Death! vs. Fuck that shit, I’m going swimming!
All it required was for our bozos-in-charge to tell people to wear face masks, anything, a fucking scarf, practice rigorous hygiene, and some major but simple dietary recommendations while allowing therapies like ancient malaria drugs to be used.
People could have still gone to church and any other group function that didn’t crowd people next to each other, especially when they’re stupid drunk and seriously dehydrated.
But that would’ve required there to be some genuine morally mature grownups in significant office, and they seem to have run out of those. It’s like a Marx Brothers movie without a script.
But that’s the thing about collective sociopathy: it can only agree on who to rob or kill, not much else.
June 25, 2020 at 3:31 am #60415boscohorowitzParticipant“Slavery and oppression will have to constantly downsize with the general positively entropic flow.”
While slavery and such will increase per capita, per capita gonna shrink.
June 25, 2020 at 11:54 pm #60475oxymoronParticipantBosco – the analysis of future socioeconomic trends you laid out is why I still hover here at TAE – you may think of taking over Nicole’s former role now she seems a bit off message. I think holding onto the land has a lot to do with keeping stakeholders invested – In the case of my children it goes like this “This carport is so huge because one day your mother and I will infill the sides with straw bales and windows and live in it and who ever takes the nice house we live in now will have access to over 100 fruit and nut trees, no bills except council rates and the bit we pay the motor cycle gang and all you see for free. There is just one catch – you gotta look after us. Also we are grooming some young local families to build in a body corporate structure on our land with shared water and fuel supply (timber)
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