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    Edward Hopper Rooms by the sea 1951   • The Jabs Must Be BANNED (Denninger) • Fully Vaccinated Israelis Exposed To “Delta” May Be Forced To Quara
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle June 24 2021]

    #78140
    Germ
    Participant

    A 12-15 yo male has ~4x greater risk for hospitalisation for myo/pericarditis post 2nd dose vs. C19 (on ~1 week’s data, only eligible since May 31st)

    A 16-17 yo male has ~13x greater risk for hosp for myo/pericarditis post 2nd dose vs. C19

    Look:

    Post 1st dose:
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4nmXCrWYAA4BBg?format=jpg&name=medium

    Post 2nd dose:
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4nmUeMX0AIs5MO?format=jpg&name=medium

    #78141
    Germ
    Participant

    “Lawmakers seek probe of possible Wuhan ‘superspreader’ event in October 2019”

    More than 9,000 athletes, including a delegation of 280 athletes and staff from the US, attended the two-week-long Wuhan Military World Games, and many of them said they later fell ill with COVID-like symptoms.

    https://nypost.com/2021/06/23/lawmakers-seek-probe-of-possible-wuhan-superspreader-event/

    #78142
    Germ
    Participant

    In the sad absence of official support for the drug, Namibians rush to veterinary ivermectin to treat themselves.

    “AGRICULTURAL retail giant Agra says it has been flooded with customers rushing to buy the veterinary medicine ivermectin supposedly to treat Covid-19.”

    https://www.namibian.com.na/102745/read/Namibians-gobble-up-ivermectin-as-Covid-cases-soar

    #78143
    Germ
    Participant

    ‘It’s crystal clear‘: Professor Robert Clancy backs ivermectin as a COVID-19 treatment

    https://www.abc.net.au/radio/newcastle/programs/drive/ivermectin-covid-19/13418066

    #78144
    Germ
    Participant

    A review of the very long list of repurposed drug candidates against Covid-19.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0163725821001327

    #78145
    userzeroid
    Participant

    A well sourced collation of current events with today’s Debt Rattle as usual.

    Denninger now bringing up Antibody Developed Enhancement alongside safety profiles for those under 30 (or even 50)

    Even family members of mine that were true believers before have recently changed their minds and have started listening to me again. Does that mean I’m not some sort of wack-job conspiracy theorist? Yay. Sadly, this also implies (as Karl indicates in his recent posts and as most commentators at this site reveal) a real-life conspiracy. A difficult one for members of the public to wrap their heads around especially if they have placed their trust in public institutions most of their lives.

    Then we see the whip-saw news day-after-day. Yes it is, no it isn’t (channelling Dr. D…) You have to love the disorientation. The whole thing reminds me of Adam Curtis’ documentaries. I haven’t yet watched ‘can’t get you out of my head’ but so far, the playbook seems to be following ‘hypernormalisation’ rather closely. Game theory on steroids. Given the increasing deterioration of the debt-based economy alongside their cover being blown with OrangeMan’s moment in the spotlight, it isn’t difficult to see the possibility that this is all connected somehow.

    Craig murray reminding us about Assange is on point, as is your comment on McAfee. We can hardly expect to have any freedom without defending the whistleblowers who watch TPTB. A catch 22 that unwinds the entire fabric of civilisation if not carefully monitored. And fought for.

    John McAfee was being hunted for tax evasion from 10 states in the US and was due to be extradited from Spain back to the US. Allegedly this was due to the sale of Crypto. Having said that, he was the guy that cracked that terrorists iphone, right? McAfee was much smarter than he appeared (and much richer than us all) Why then did he end his life in a Spanish jail cell?

    Perhaps the answer is similar to these final moments with Jeffrey Epstein?

    #78146
    Germ
    Participant

    Raul – thanks for the Varon interview.
    Left me with a raised heart rate out of anger.

    #78147
    oxymoron
    Participant

    I don’t mention the art much but Edward Hopper, Van Gogh and Klimt have really moved me. Thanks for them they really help in a weird and inexplicable way.

    #78149
    userzeroid
    Participant

    @germ

    Thanks for all your work in sharing what you have been discovering in the field of medicine. The info is very useful and I have forwarded much of it on.

    I wondered if either you, Dr. John Day and anyone else in the comment section might be able to assist with some ‘unoffical’ advice concerning Ivermectin?

    Someone close to the family suffers from Essential Thrombocythemia and is taking hydroxycarbamide to lower their blood platelets. Do you see any dangerous interactions between Ivermectin and Hydroxycabamide?

    Obviously this is unofficial. Nothing in my comment and any subsequent response from persons at this website equates to official medical advice and cannot be misconstrued as such. You know, asking for a friend and all that 😉

    #78150
    Germ
    Participant

    Sorry Zerouserid can’t offer advice.

    #78151
    Germ
    Participant

    Cathay Pacific crew told to get vaccine or risk losing job

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-57592596

    #78153
    Germ
    Participant

    Government admits that half of new Covid-19 cases in last month were fully vaccinated
    Despite data, government is launching expanded campaign to vaccinate everyone over 12.

    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/308653

    They’ll come begging for Ivermectin. LOL

    #78154
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @userzeroid, webmd.com has a drug interaction checker. Maybe that can help answer your question?

    #78155
    absolute galore
    Participant

    Ivermectin and the lack of a true reason to issue Emergency Use Authorization for mRNA vaccines: I just don’t see how they walk this back. Not without some serious scapegoats, maybe official bureaucrats, but will that be enough after jabbing over 50% of the ENTIRE POPULATION with a medical experiment? Or will someone go back to the lab to concoct a variant resistant to Ivermectin….?

    This is way bigger than the drug company that got penalized for igniting the opioid crisis, I forget the details. On the other hand, people are so invested in the danger of Covid and the apparent success of the vaccines, they might just continue to black out, ride out the news cycle, ignore the evidence bubbling up until it goes away. This would explain the zeal to get every last man woman child vaccinated. No need to worry about a cover up when we’re all in it “together.” What’s to cover when we are all complicit in one way or another.

    Even with the rising chatter, none of my friends knows about Ivermectin. “I can’t believe there would be a drug that works and its not being used” is the most typical reaction when I tell people about it. I’ve given some of my stash to a friend and his son, the only close by people I know that have not been jabbed and don’t plan to be. Also have some for my sister whose doctors have advised she cannot safely take the vaccine due to her immune system issues.

    Quick question for the Jphn D or anyone with info
    : If you knock out Covid immediately with Iv, do you still develop a natural immunity, and how robust is it compared to someone who goes through the entire illness,or is put on the drug during a later stage of the disease? I suspect that aspect is probably not yet clear.

    Love this late Hopper. Hopper with a dash of surrealism and a nod to abstraction and color field painting. Works on all levels.

    #78156
    Germ
    Participant

    They are definitely coming for our kids.

    “Surgeon fired by College of Medicine for voicing safety concerns about Covid shots for children.”

    Surgeon fired by College of Medicine for voicing safety concerns about Covid shots for children

    #78157
    Germ
    Participant

    Growing list of covid era oddities.
    More than just odd.
    Evil …

    https://threader.app/thread/1407672473873747972

    #78158
    absolute galore
    Participant

    From today’s NYT digital front page:
    Science and Health
    Heart Problems After Vaccination Are Very Rare, Federal Researchers Say

    More than 1,200 cases have been reported, mostly mild and more often in young men and boys. The benefits of vaccination still far outweigh the risks, experts said.

    And what exactly are the risks to “young men and boys” again? Oh, right. The sniffles. Yeah, give me some of that mostly mild heart problems, please. Thank you!

    #78160
    Germ
    Participant

    They’re coming for our kids:

    “Huntsville City Schools will go on with its vaccination clinic for minors without parental consent

    https://yellowhammernews.com/huntsville-city-schools-will-go-on-with-its-vaccination-clinic-for-minors-without-parental-consent/

    #78161
    Germ
    Participant

    “Israel empowered health officials on Wednesday to quarantine anyone deemed to have been exposed to an especially infectious variant of COVID-19, even if they were previously vaccinated or recovered from the disease with presumed immunity.”

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/vaccinated-israelis-may-need-quarantine-because-delta-variant-2021-06-23/

    #78162
    scraplet
    Participant

    Anyone in the UK had a recent successful import of Ivermectin? If so, can you please share the portal you used? Thanks muchly in advance 🙂

    #78163
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Good to see Tucker Carlson have Dr Malone on his show. Large audience. Malone’s responses were intelligent and measured. When this all started in March 2020 I stupidly believed the virus was the problem. Later I realized the virus was the least of the problem, although even last fall I stupidly believed the experimental vaccines would be limited to adults only. I cannot, for the life of me, understand why any parent would *allow* their child to get this vaccine, much less be ecstatic about it. I’m getting demoralized. Does anyone here have something uplifting to share?

    #78164
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “Fully Vaccinated Israelis Exposed to “Delta” May Be Forced to Quarantine (ZH)”

    Vaccines don’t work. Or not in practice.

    “Administration of these shots to a previously-recovered person under 50 is…attempted manslaughter”

    It is, but we haven’t followed the law in 50 years. Who will bring the charges? The people committing the crime?

    WHO Official: Mask Mandates, Social Distancing Must Continue Indefinitely (SN)”

    18 months later, still hasn’t noticed every lockdown place is worst, every open place is best. Hasn’t noticed lockdowns were draconian in UK, NY, etc, totally, completely failed by every measure AND killed more people with abuse, alcohol, masks. Pull his license, clearly he is mentally incapable of executing medicine. Since the AMA agrees, also medically incapable of thought, who brings the charges?

    A: The People. They are the final jury. Don’t disarm them either of speech or of tools.

    “More Than 2M Adults in England Have Had Long Covid for Over 12 Weeks (G.)”

    Not stated, but I suspect the vaccine. …That they never needed, since they had the disease.

    England Set to Drop Face Mask Rules After Huge Economic Impact Revealed (SN)”

    What? When did this start? I thought we followed the medicine at the expense of all other human considerations or else you killed Grandma. “Every life is priceless” It’s “Capitalism” to have any cost-benefit discussions. “If it saves even ONE life…” Like not giving unneeded vaccines to children who aren’t at risk and probably already had it. In that case, 30x all 70 other vaccines combined is too few.

    And poor people lost 25% of income? While Bezos made $1T? What’s not to like? What brought on this fit of reckless Capitalism, England?

    A: They got their fascism installed, erased human rights, and now need some tax revenue. “Work, you maggots!”

    “Hillary Clinton Privately Warned France About Wuhan P4 Lab (HE)”

    Anybody follow up on Fauci developing vaccines with Modera years before Covid existed? Wow, he’s telepathic! I can’t find much on it if it’s true as suggested.

    Reposted from “Let’s Save Lives”:

    Sorry to be so frightful and a brat back when this started, I even bowed out for some time not to be a pest. However, it was so important and so clear, and I couldn’t not keep plugging, so I appreciate the support. I can just do so little. The only little thing I can do is tell the truth to some friends, so I do that.
    This is just what I did back in ’01 and the Patriot Act. Screaming, SCREAMING that this exact thing would happen, that it was all fake, all profit, all a power grab to trample anyone, erase all human rights.

    Here’s the thing though: Nobody listened then although it was way, way more obvious. It took years, ten years, not even now, really. So that the people can catch on in one year may be a hopeful sign even though I fear the risks are now wildly higher and may even be fatal.

    If the Elite can be pried out from the trust they don’t deserve, it will be a fair loss of life in the service of a greater war. A war they started and forced down on us. And right now, again we don’t know.

    At the beginning, also remember I was warning that encouraging parades and NOT closing the borders was dangerous considering Wuhan lost 200k cell phone signals. And they fought that just as hard saying that Covid existed was racist, made-up DT fantasy. That was back when Covid didn’t exist to Team Blue, but only Team Red, before they traded realites. ….Aaaaand no one noticed. Aaaaand now that never happened, Red has always denied it, we were always at war with Estasia. Sigh. But I did that because the highly-controlled evidence from China was concerning, and we needed some time to know more. NOT because I thought we should lockdown or that lockdowns and cutting 25% of wages for the poor while stimulus $1T for the rich would work. It wouldn’t and didn’t. We needed the information and then we (Team Red, sort of) got it and moved on.

    We’re like that now: We don’t know. About mRNA, I fear, and results are bad, but I don’t know yet. Waiting is very hard, especially when their position on the field suggests it’s a setup for sterilization and random-culling. I hope not, but honestly it already has. They failed at the initial release which wasn’t as deadly as when tested on run-down and vitamin D-deficient Uighurs, so I can only hope if what seems is true, the body is far more able to heal than most give credit and many could recover somewhat.

    Provided they get the truth and the treatments are advertised. Which are still being savaged by enormous mountain trolls on the field. They won’t even admit heart-damage in children, and heart-damage is not recoverable (in theory). Lifelong maiming of children, on purpose, for no statistical savings.

    Waiting, waiting. Frustrated and waiting. Forgive my bad language — I speak American, in a war — and I’m waiting. Like ol’ Willie from WWII. Bill Mauldin.

    War is months of endless boredom, punctuated by moments of complete terror.”

    Or how about: “No war is easy for those who fight it.” – Bill Mauldin, Up Front

    #78165
    Mr. House
    Participant

    now that minds are changing on the virus, what about the corporate color revolution that is occurring? That still just a conspiracy theory?

    #78166
    Mr. House
    Participant

    “We’ve focused on intently on the smoldering ashes that we have ignored the flames.

    You might be surprised to hear this woman speak and find that she is articulate. She is not screechy or huffy. She comes across as a white collar educated professional, the kind of person who gained from college and grad school not critical thinking skills nor the empathy born of exposure to a wide breadth of human knowledge, but the ability to make one’s statements sound measured and polite even when their substance is the sort of stuff most people would regard as manifestly insane.

    She went semi-viral a couple of weeks ago after audio emerged of her giving a talk at Yale in which she detailed her violent fantasies against white people. Here’s a quick hit of one of her Ivy League-worthy insights:

    I had fantasies of unloading a revolver into the head of any white person that got in my way, burying their body, and wiping my bloody hands as I walked away relatively guiltless with a bounce in my step. Like I did the world a fucking favor.

    In this interview linked at the top of this post, Khilanani clarifies her position. She didn’t really mean she had these fantasies. Or, she does, but not, like, really really. It’s good, she says, from a psychoanalyst’s perspective, to get people to confront their own violent fantasies. And then to project those violent fantasies onto others and criticize them for not reacting positively when being presented with images of their own ethnic cleansing. And this, apparently, only applies to white people. You tell a black or Asian person that you fantasize about killing them, they don’t take any offense to it at all. Nope. They like it. But white people get all defensive about stuff like that, and that’s what causes racism.

    In her interview with Katie Herzog, Khilanani specifically aimed her ire toward white liberals. Some based leftist-types mistakenly took for proof that she, herself, was based, seeking merely to own the libs. She’s not. She is an extreme, racist nihilist who views any attempt at racial harmony or uplift being much, much worse than outright racism and even racial violence. And her position is absolutely mainstream within contemporary anti-racist training.

    This is an important distinction that should be obvious but most people with a voice are just too cowardly to enunciate it. I get the general argument that black people can’t be racist since racism is structural (even though all recent discussions of it focus on individual mindsets), that even if a black person hates other races they’re not quite being racist, blah blah blah. Not saying I agree fully with this premise, especially in its more extreme recent manifestations, just that I understand it.

    This lady is doing a completely different type of racism, one that cannot be processed with the kindergarten-level understanding of “power imbalances” that’s now so popular among liberals. She is specifically arguing that anything short of overt, life-defining racism is problematic. That people should be understood exclusively according to their racial markings, that racial differences are irreconcilable to the point that different races are basically different species, and that social problems would be solved if only a clear-cut racial caste system were rigidly enforced.

    We’ve focused so much attention on the specific contours of the American version “race-blind” racism that we’ve come to regard that as the only, and therefore most malignant, form of racism. This has led to wokeists unironically adopting a much grander and more terrifying version of racism, one that can very fairly be regarded as Hiterlean.

    This is a suicidal death cult, one that rejects the firmaments of liberalism to such a degree that they believe any attempts at building a structured society will result in inequality so extreme that the only viable solution is murderous repression. They are, no joke, ideologically quite similar to ISIS, only their beef with the US mainstream is metaphorical imperialism like microaggressions, instead of the literal stuff. The fact that Khilanani’s oppression consists almost completely of petty, superficial bullshit does not diminish her sense of being oppressed. She, and many thousands like her, have become fully convinced that minor grievances constitute world-historic oppression, and that this oppression justifies any means of reaction they see fit.

    These are the people in charge right now. This is what liberalism is in the twenty twenties. “

    #78167
    Mr. House
    Participant

    CIA created ISIS
    CIA/FBI/.gov created WOKE

    #78168
    Mr. House
    Participant

    @Dr. D

    “No war is easy for those who fight it.” – Bill Mauldin, Up Front

    I have that book. Great read and love the comics. So sad that the author died like a week before the war ended in the pacific theater.

    #78169
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    @ absolute galore

    “Ivermectin and the lack of a true reason to issue Emergency Use Authorization for mRNA vaccines: I just don’t see how they walk this back. Not without some serious scapegoats, maybe official bureaucrats, but will that be enough after jabbing over 50% of the ENTIRE POPULATION with a medical experiment? Or will someone go back to the lab to concoct a variant resistant to Ivermectin….?”

    When covid first made noise, the TAE crowd identified it as a black swan game-changer. Your paragraph displays some of how much a game-changer it has been. I don’t know that people will storm the WHO/CDC Bastille, so to speak, but those authorities will never recover, and the governments aligned with them will be drastically changed by this.

    As for scapegoats, I wouldn’t be surprised if Fauci gets Epsteined. Or Trumped, if you prefer. He doesn’t seem able to keep his mouth shut.

    Meanwhile, now that the DNC/liberal zeitgeist have trashed themselves, we can look forward to a resumption of GOP/conservative stupidity also. Someone has to fill the void.

    Sanctuary!!!!

    As for taking das vakzine:

    Shave Your Head!

    #78170
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    Well, with this guy protecting us, I’m sure we’re safe.

    #78171
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Jan 6th was a false flag, been saying it from the start and will continue until new evidence arises that actually fits with .govs narrative

    #78172
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    Re: “Just Guns” comment:

    Pay no attention to that Asian backwater we’ve been in for the last 20 years.

    #78173
    Mr. House
    Participant

    “now that the DNC/liberal zeitgeist have trashed themselves”

    Has it? I still think its firmly in control, and the only way i can see it losing is if the election was shown to be fraudulent. Covid was a religion from the beginning and will continue to be, the new bible thumpers, and these people can not be reasoned with. Evidence does not sway them.

    #78174
    Mr. House
    Participant

    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/41243/the-national-guard-just-simulated-a-cyberattack-that-brought-down-utilities-nationwide

    So scared of something, so it only makes sense to make sure everything relies on that something!

    #78175
    userzeroid
    Participant

    Germ – No worries, thanks for replying and letting me know.

    Thanks for that upstateNYer, I had a look on webmd and drugbank and both showed no interactions

    #78176
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Does anyone else think this is the new Black Swan?

    we are about to run out of some stuff

    @ Mr. House

    “Has it? I still think its firmly in control, and the only way i can see it losing is if the election was shown to be fraudulent. Covid was a religion from the beginning and will continue to be, the new bible thumpers, and these people can not be reasoned with. Evidence does not sway them.”

    Inertia. It takes time to change partners. But it seems glaringly certain that, unless they pull their covid fat out of the fire real soon, they’ll burn up with all the lies they’ve told, people they’ve killed, and prosperities crushed.

    As for evidence: abstract evidence is one thing. Tangible physical reality is another. Physical reality is what runs the world, not our abstract belief systems. Physical reality is turning harshly against our mainstream DNC-dominated political reality. Swaying will happen.

    I agree about Jan 6 being a (rather ingenious) false flag.

    #78177
    zerosum
    Participant

    Evidence does not sway them.

    ANTONYMS OF evidence

    concealment, denial, hiding, contradiction, disproof, heresay, refutation

    NEW/ UPDATED ANTONYMS OF evidence

    No proof of wrong doing – Biden
    Fake news – Trump
    Russia,Russia,Russia – Nancy P
    Hunter Biden –
    ————

    #78178
    zerosum
    Participant

    Evidence does not sway them.

    https://www.the-sun.com/news/3141154/hunter-biden-latop-texts-prostitute-chateau-marmon-wife/
    NewsUS News
    HUNTER BUSTED Hunter Biden latest – Texts obtained from laptop ‘reveal he ordered prostitute to Chateau Marmon where he smoked crack’
    What is the alleged video of Hunter Biden ‘smoking crack’?
    Did Hunter Biden say the N-word?
    Who is Hunter Biden’s wife Melissa Cohen?
    What did Hunter Biden’s text messages say?
    Julia Fields
    11:30 ET, Jun 24 2021Updated: 11:30 ET, Jun 24 2021

    #78179
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Regarding…
    “Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty & well preserved body; but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, & loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!”
    ~Hunter S. Thompson

    To each their own. Me, for one, I have been on such wild rides a few too many times in the past decade, and while I value having having event and life components that hold great personal significance, I prefer my life’s pace to be more leisurely.

    #78180
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    I do think Jan. 6 was a false flag as well, but it seems my attempt at comedy missed the mark. Reference for the Babylon Bee tweet:

    President Biden made headlines on Wednesday after suggesting in a rambling gun control speech that gun owners who want to take on the government would need “F-15s and maybe some nuclear weapons.””

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/bidens-widely-mocked-f-15s-and-nukes-speech-latest-string-gun-control-blunders

    #78181
    John Day
    Participant

    @Userzeroid: I’d have to look up drug interactions between hydroxycarbamide (a drug I don’t prescribe) and ivermectin. I have no special insights. This is not a regulalry prescribed drug.

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