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Edward Hopper Rooms by the sea 1951

 

The Jabs Must Be BANNED (Denninger)
Fully Vaccinated Israelis Exposed To “Delta” May Be Forced To Quarantine (ZH)
Israel Urges Parents To Vaccinate Kids Ages 12-15 (JPost)
WHO Official: Mask Mandates, Social Distancing Must Continue Indefinitely (SN)
Optimizing Decision-Making Processes in Times of COVID-19 (FIP)
More Than 2m Adults In England Have Had Long Covid For Over 12 Weeks (G.)
England Set to Drop Face Mask Rules After Huge Economic Impact Revealed (SN)
Pursuing Truth In Covid Drug Treatment Amid A Censored Media Landscape (Hecker)
Hillary Clinton Privately Warned France About Wuhan P4 Lab (HE)
Elephants’ 500km-Trek Across China Baffles Scientists (BBC)
High Court Delays as Assange Remains in Jail (Craig Murray)

 

 

 

 

 

 

“If you coerced some young person to get the jab and they get hammered you should forfeit your own children’s lives as you are the reason they got ****ed.”

The Jabs Must Be BANNED (Denninger)

… in those under 18 and strongly discouraged in healthy adults under 50. Those who promoted them in people under the age of 30 in addition must face justice. There was never any science supporting it on a risk:benefit basis. The CDC documents about 35 total Covid-related deaths in people under the age of 18 years all the way back to March of 2020. This table is utterly gob-smacking damnable and is what we get for “Warp Speed” — a litany of serious harms, many of which will wind up as deaths — more deaths in those under 18 than Covid caused.

The experience .vs. expected rate is anywhere from ten to one hundred times higher than “random chance” in those under 24 years old, and form 3-30 times higher in those under 30. If we presume that one in ten of these cases will eventually kill the person involved, which is likely conservative (the usual expectation is that half of these cases in the population generally that result in hospitalization eventually progress to heart failure and either a transplant or death within five years) these “side effects” will kill more people in the under-25 group than Covid has all the way back to the start of the pandemic. The others, who are not killed, will wind up with monstrous medical bills they will have to pay and some amount of permanent damage to their cardiac health.

This is from one side effect alone. Only those over 50 have an incidence of this result that is inline with expectations; everyone younger is either at or beyond the upper boundary. In addition this data is almost-certainly incomplete as VAERS is a non-mandatory system and thus does not capture all events. The degree of under-reporting is not able to be accurately bracketed but that it occurs is an absolute fact. Therefore these reports are floors, not ceilings, and as such must be taken as a lower boundary only, yet even in that context they demonstrate utterly unacceptable risk that, in any ordinary civil proceeding would lead to strict liability.

THESE SHOTS MUST BE IMMEDIATELY STOPPED FOR ALL HEALTHY PERSONS UNDER THE AGE OF 30 and strongly recommended against up to the age of 50 years unless the person receiving them has a serious morbid condition and has been tested negative for prior exposure to the virus itself. That the CDC delayed this meeting for “Juneteenth” ought to get people imprisoned; this is an immediate emergency action item and to postpone it was utterly indefensible.

Any college administration that continues to hold forth a “requirement” for these shots in students should have their children put up as collateral to face the same outcome as any of the students who die as a result of these jabs, with said bond being good for the next ten years since myocarditis often leads to heart failure with the next five years in people it strikes. If you coerced some young person to get the jab and they get hammered you should forfeit your own children’s lives as you are the reason they got ****ed.

Administration of these shots to a previously-recovered person under 50 is, on the strength of this data, gross negligence and, if they get hit, attempted manslaughter or, if the person ultimately suffers heart failure, actual manslaughter. And no, gross negligence is not covered by the “immunity” that HHS gave the vaccine manufacturers and health professionals; any person or organization administering such a shot to someone who is healthy and under 30 should be immediately sued as their so-called “protection” is presumptively void.

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Geert VanDen Bossche: FAQ updated: May 25, 2021

[#13 ]How can it be explained that in Israel it seems that the massive vaccination has almost stopped the pandemic and no dramatic effects are being observed over people that have been vaccinated?

It’s just a matter of weeks for a surge in Israel to occur due to resistance of the virus to vaccinal antibodies in vaccinees. I expect this surge to occur before summer.

Fully Vaccinated Israelis Exposed To “Delta” May Be Forced To Quarantine (ZH)

As concerns about the threat posed by the “Delta” variant, a mutant strain of COVID-19 first discovered in India that’s believed to be much more dangerous than rival strains, intensify, Israeli health officials have just been given the authority to quarantine pretty much anybody who is exposed to “Delta”, even if the individual is already fully vaccinated, Reuters reports. The heavy-handed decision comes after a warning by new Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett on Tuesday over new outbreaks caused by “Delta” . Bennett complained that daily infections have been rising again in Israel after weeks of a low plateau credited to the country’s record mass-vaccination drive.

Under the updated Health Ministry directive, vaccinated or formerly infected people can be ordered to self-isolate for up to 14 days if authorities suspect they may have passed in “close contact with a carrier of a dangerous virus variant.” This could include having been passengers on the same plane, the ministry said, a possible dampener on Israel’s gradual opening of its borders to vaccinated summer tourists. Addressing the Knesset (Israel’s parliament), Health Minister Nitzan Horowitz said fines of “thousands of shekels” might be levied against Israeli citizens or residents who travel to countries blacklisted as high COVID-19 risks.

On June 16, the Health Ministry listed Argentina, Brazil, South Africa, India, Mexico and Russia as off-limits to Israeli citizens or residents unless they receive special permission. Some 55% of Israel’s 9.3MM population have received both doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, and a steep drop in cases had prompted most economic restrictions to be lifted. But just days earlier, Israel announced plans to start vaccinating teenagers between the ages of 12 and 15.

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There you go. Why bother about what the WHO says? What do they know anyway?

Israel Urges Parents To Vaccinate Kids Ages 12-15 (JPost)

Prime Minister Naftali Bennett, Health Minister Nitzan Horowitz and other relevant officials and experts, including transportation, interior and education ministers met Sunday night to decide on new measures to address the risk of increased morbidity following a number of coronavirus outbreaks at several Israeli schools. They agreed to task some additional 250 police officers to enforce isolation requirements for those returning from abroad, build a new testing complex at Ben-Gurion Airport and increase the number of testing stations, as well as carry out a communication campaign to foster awareness of the importance of respecting quarantine regulations among the public.


In addition, the authorities will investigate the gap between the number of violations of quarantine and the fines given, and will consider the position of parents whose unvaccinated children do not quarantine after returning from abroad. The ministers also confirmed that Israelis are not going to be allowed to fly to countries under travel ban – Argentina, Brazil, India, Mexico, Russia and South Africa, unless they obtain a special permission from the dedicated government committee. A further meeting to discuss the issues related to the coronavirus will be scheduled in the next few days.

Tucker WHO

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Sorry, bud, not going to happen.

WHO Official: Mask Mandates, Social Distancing Must Continue Indefinitely (SN)

A top WHO official says that mask mandates and social distancing should continue indefinitely in order to protect against new variants of COVID-19. The comments were made on Sky News by Special Envoy on Covid for the World Health Organisation (WHO). Dr David Nabarro. Nabarro suggested that there would be a long list of mutations of the Indian variant which would in some cases evade the protection offered by vaccines. “We will go from Delta to Lambda and then on to the other Greek letters, that’s inevitable, and some of these variants will be troublesome,” he said. “I’m basically saying variants are going to go on coming. That’s part of life, we need to pick them up fast, we need to move quickly if we see them in a certain location, we need to build the management of variants into what we call our Covid-ready strategy, which is going to be the pattern for the foreseeable future,” he added.


According to Nabarro, mask mandates and social distancing need to remain in place for the foreseeable future “as part of our defence” against COVID, particularly in regions which have high infection rates. As we highlighted earlier, England is set to drop all face mask rules on July 19 after it was revealed that they were having a massive negative impact on businesses and wiping billions off the economy. Several government advisers have called for coronavirus restrictions to continue forever, not just to defend against COVID, but also to fight influenza. Former Communist Party member and SAGE adviser Susan Michie said earlier this month that mask mandates and social distancing should continue “forever” and that people should adopt such behaviour just as they did with wearing seatbelts. It never ends.

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Referenced by Robert Malone.

Optimizing Decision-Making Processes in Times of COVID-19 (FIP)

The effectiveness of policymakers’ decision-making in times of crisis depends largely on their ability to integrate and make sense of information. The COVID-19 crisis confronts governments with the difficult task of making decisions in the interest of public health and safety. Essentially, policymakers have to react to a threat, of which the extent is unknown, and they are making decisions under time constraints in the midst of immense uncertainty. The stakes are high, the issues involved are complex and require the careful balancing of several interests, including (mental) health, the economy, and human rights. These circumstances render policymakers’ decision-making processes vulnerable to errors and biases in the processing of information, thereby increasing the chances of faulty decision-making processes with poor outcomes.

Prior research has identified three main information-processing failures that can distort group decision-making processes and can lead to negative outcomes: (1) failure to search for and share information, (2) failure to elaborate on and analyze information that is not in line with earlier information and (3) failure to revise and update conclusions and policies in the light of new information. To date, it has not yet been explored how errors and biases underlying these information-processing failures impact decision-making processes in times of crisis. In this narrative review, we outline how groupthink, a narrow focus on the problem of containing the virus, and escalation of commitment may pose real risks to decision-making processes in handling the COVID-19 crisis and may result in widespread societal damages.

Hence, it is vital that policymakers take steps to maximize the quality of the decision-making process and increase the chances of positive outcomes as the crisis goes forward. We propose group reflexivity—a deliberate process of discussing team goals, processes, or outcomes—as an antidote to these biases and errors in decision-making. Specifically, we recommend several evidence-based reflexivity tools that could easily be implemented to counter these information-processing errors and improve decision-making processes in uncertain times.

Tucker Robert Malone

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Hmmm. Not sure. Many healthy people also have “fatigue-related symptoms” due to lockdowns.

More Than 2m Adults In England Have Had Long Covid For Over 12 Weeks (G.)

More than 2 million adults in England have experienced coronavirus symptoms lasting over 12 weeks, government data suggests – double the previous estimate for long Covid. The study, one of the largest to date, found that people with ongoing symptoms tended to fall into two categories: those with respiratory symptoms, who often experienced more severe illness when they first got sick, and a second group with fatigue-related symptoms. Like previous studies, it found that women were more commonly affected and that the prevalence of ongoing symptoms increased with age. Researchers described the findings as “alarming”.

The React-2 study is a government-funded population surveillance study that uses finger-prick antibody tests from randomly selected adults in England to assess how far coronavirus has spread. Between September and February, 508,707 participants were also asked whether they thought they had had Covid and about the presence and duration of 29 different symptoms. The research, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, found that 37.7% of those who had symptomatic Covid experienced at least one symptom lasting 12 weeks or more – equivalent to 2 million people – while 14.8% experienced three or more persistent symptoms.

“The scale of the problem is quite alarming,” said Prof Kevin McConway, emeritus professor of applied statistics at the Open University. “The results can’t tell us clearly how serious those symptoms were in terms of their effects on the patients’ lives. Some may not be very serious, but some of them certainly are, and these results clearly point out how vital it is to understand them properly and to provide adequate treatment and support services for the people involved.”

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“The Science”.

England Set to Drop Face Mask Rules After Huge Economic Impact Revealed (SN)

England is set to drop all face mask rules on July 19th after it was revealed that keeping such restrictions in place is costing the economy billions and will force many businesses to close. “The requirement to wear facemasks on public transport and in shops will be replaced with guidance advising people to wear masks in certain circumstances, rather than compelling them,” reports the Times. The decision follows the findings of an internal economic impact assessment produced by the government’s Events Research Programme which detailed the massive impact social distancing measures are having on businesses. Politico Playbook reveals that, “keeping any measures would cost the economy billions and see many businesses close.”


Specifically, indoor seated venues such as the arts, cinemas and business events would achieve just 59 per cent of their 2019 turnover if restrictions remain, costing them a whopping £4.88 billion over the next year. Even if the only remaining restriction kept in place is face masks, “The entire events industry would reach just 82 percent of its 2019 turnover. Indoor seated venues would get just 72 percent. Indoor non-seated just 65 percent. Outdoor non-seated venues would manage just 82 percent of their 2019 figure.” The events industry as a whole is bringing in only 60 per cent of normal revenue under the current restrictions, which will likely continue until July 19th.

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Gotta love her.

Pursuing Truth In Covid Drug Treatment Amid A Censored Media Landscape (Hecker)

Finally covering the story on COVID drug treatments that I wasn’t allowed to air on FOX. A look at why one Houston hospital has a dramatically lower COVID death rate than anywhere else and the ways the media skated around the facts at that hospital. [..] The death rate from COVID-19 is dramatically low at United Memorial Medical Center in Houston, TX compared to other hospitals across the nation and the world. Despite Dr. Joseph Varon’s popularity on TV, news personalities avoid questions of why he’s having success treating his patients. As it turns out, he’s using drugs the WHO and CDC recommend against.

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Bioweapons.

Hillary Clinton Privately Warned France About Wuhan P4 Lab (HE)

In a leaked State Department cable from 2009, then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned that the Wuhan Institute of Virology could lead to “biological weapons proliferation concern.” The cable, obtained via Wikileaks, was sent from the State Department in June 2009 to all embassies in member nations ahead of the Australia Group plenary session in Paris, September 21-25, 2009. The Australia Group is an international export control forum organized to prevent the spread of technologies and research that could be used in chemical and biological weapons. All Five Eyes nations are members of the group, including the EU, India, Japan, and South Korea. China is not a member of the group.

The cable stated, “We believe it is important to focus on emerging chemical and biological technologies, trends in the trade of CBW-related goods and threats.” When it came to France, Secretary Clinton’s cable noted: “The U.S. believes participants would benefit from hearing about your experiences assisting China in setting up a Biosafety Level-4 (BSL-4) laboratory at the Wuhan Institute of Virology from the export control and intangible technology transfer perspectives. We are particularly interested to know how China plans to vet incoming foreign researchers from countries of biological weapons proliferation concern.”

More broadly on the question of China’s biological weapons program, Secretary Clinton’s cable noted: “The U.S. believes AG members would be interested in any information you can share related to China and North Korea, specifically information related to: • China’s Institutes of Biological Products (locations in Beijing and Wuhan), to include overhead imagery analysis, if possible. • Your perceptions of the CBW proliferation activities by Chinese entities. • Your perceptions of Chinese government efforts to enforce its export control rules.”

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Is the matriarch disoriented?

Elephants’ 500km-Trek Across China Baffles Scientists (BBC)

Elephants are by nature fiercely intelligent beasts and experts who study them day in day out already know a great deal about them. And yet a herd of endangered elephants in China has completely dumbfounded scientists globally, while captivating an entire nation in the process. It’s not unusual for elephants to move small distances. But this herd has been lumbering its way across China for more than a year now. The elephants have now strayed almost 500km (310 miles), a mammoth trek from their original habitat. It’s thought that they started their journey last spring from Xishuangbanna National Nature Reserve in the southwest of the country, near the border with Myanmar and Laos.

They began moving north and in the last few months, the elephants have popped up in a number of villages, towns and cities. They’ve been seen smashing down doors, raiding shops, “stealing” food, playing around in the mud, taking a bath in a canal and napping in the middle of a forest. They’ve also been spotted hoovering up crops in their wake and moseying into people’s houses – on one occasion, lining up in a courtyard to drink water, successfully turning on a tap with their trunks. It is thought they have started to move south again, and were last spotted in Shijie – a town near the city of Yuxi.

It’s unclear whether they are headed back, or why they even embarked on this journey in the first place – the farthest known movement by elephants in the country. Or what might come next. “The truth is, no-one knows. It is almost certainly related to the need for resources – food, water, shelter – and this would make sense given the fact that, in most locations where Asian elephants live in the wild, there is an increase in human disturbances leading to habitat fragmentation, loss and resource reduction,” Joshua Plotnik, assistant professor of elephant psychology at Hunter College, City University of New York, told the BBC.

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Treatment of Murray is scandalous too, but nothing like Assange. John McAfee’s death is worrisome in this regard.

High Court Delays as Assange Remains in Jail (Craig Murray)

Julian Assange remains in a maximum-security jail, despite never being sentenced for anything but a long ago served spell for bail-jumping, and despite the U.S. government’s request for extradition having been refused. It is approaching six months since I was in court to hear the decision rejecting Assange’s extradition, and it was in the same week that Magistrate Vanessa Baraitser ordered Assange be kept in jail pending a U.S. appeal. Since then, the U.S. has submitted its appeal, which is somewhat intemperate in its efforts to discredit a number of highly distinguished expert witnesses at the hearing. The defense has submitted its response, including notice of points, where Baraitser found for the U.S. that the defense intend to counter-appeal.

Then for over three months — nothing. The High Court has not only not set a date for the U.S. appeal, it has not even indicated if the U.S. appeal meets the bar to be heard. There is some thought that the appeal lacks any arguable points of law and may be simply rejected. But the seemingly leisurely approach of the High Court to look at the matter is entirely inappropriate given that, in the meantime, an innocent man is suffering the most extreme form of incarceration available in the U.K. Assange’s status is that his extradition has been rejected. He ought not to be in jail at all, let alone in such harsh conditions. By contrast, I am sitting in my study despite being sentenced to eight months in jail. I am at liberty while the U.K. Supreme Court decides whether to hear my appeal.

My lawyers believe, from their contact with the court administrators, that it is entirely possible that the Supreme Court will decide on whether to take my appeal, within the four-week suspension of my jail sentence granted by Judge Lady Dorrian. This is because otherwise I might be imprisoned. Why can the Supreme Court potentially decide whether to hear my appeal so quickly due to the threat of imprisonment, when the High Court is taking six times or more as long to decide whether to hear the U.S. appeal, when an innocent man is already imprisoned? It makes no sense. It is not due to complexity: while of course Julian’s case is more important, any points of law at issue in the U.S. appeal are notably less complex than in my own appeal. To me, the only possible explanation is the determination of the state to keep Julian imprisoned at all costs.

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    Edward Hopper Rooms by the sea 1951   • The Jabs Must Be BANNED (Denninger) • Fully Vaccinated Israelis Exposed To “Delta” May Be Forced To Quara
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle June 24 2021]

    #78140
    Germ
    Participant

    A 12-15 yo male has ~4x greater risk for hospitalisation for myo/pericarditis post 2nd dose vs. C19 (on ~1 week’s data, only eligible since May 31st)

    A 16-17 yo male has ~13x greater risk for hosp for myo/pericarditis post 2nd dose vs. C19

    Look:

    Post 1st dose:
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4nmXCrWYAA4BBg?format=jpg&name=medium

    Post 2nd dose:
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4nmUeMX0AIs5MO?format=jpg&name=medium

    #78141
    Germ
    Participant

    “Lawmakers seek probe of possible Wuhan ‘superspreader’ event in October 2019”

    More than 9,000 athletes, including a delegation of 280 athletes and staff from the US, attended the two-week-long Wuhan Military World Games, and many of them said they later fell ill with COVID-like symptoms.

    https://nypost.com/2021/06/23/lawmakers-seek-probe-of-possible-wuhan-superspreader-event/

    #78142
    Germ
    Participant

    In the sad absence of official support for the drug, Namibians rush to veterinary ivermectin to treat themselves.

    “AGRICULTURAL retail giant Agra says it has been flooded with customers rushing to buy the veterinary medicine ivermectin supposedly to treat Covid-19.”

    https://www.namibian.com.na/102745/read/Namibians-gobble-up-ivermectin-as-Covid-cases-soar

    #78143
    Germ
    Participant

    ‘It’s crystal clear‘: Professor Robert Clancy backs ivermectin as a COVID-19 treatment

    https://www.abc.net.au/radio/newcastle/programs/drive/ivermectin-covid-19/13418066

    #78144
    Germ
    Participant

    A review of the very long list of repurposed drug candidates against Covid-19.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0163725821001327

    #78145
    userzeroid
    Participant

    A well sourced collation of current events with today’s Debt Rattle as usual.

    Denninger now bringing up Antibody Developed Enhancement alongside safety profiles for those under 30 (or even 50)

    Even family members of mine that were true believers before have recently changed their minds and have started listening to me again. Does that mean I’m not some sort of wack-job conspiracy theorist? Yay. Sadly, this also implies (as Karl indicates in his recent posts and as most commentators at this site reveal) a real-life conspiracy. A difficult one for members of the public to wrap their heads around especially if they have placed their trust in public institutions most of their lives.

    Then we see the whip-saw news day-after-day. Yes it is, no it isn’t (channelling Dr. D…) You have to love the disorientation. The whole thing reminds me of Adam Curtis’ documentaries. I haven’t yet watched ‘can’t get you out of my head’ but so far, the playbook seems to be following ‘hypernormalisation’ rather closely. Game theory on steroids. Given the increasing deterioration of the debt-based economy alongside their cover being blown with OrangeMan’s moment in the spotlight, it isn’t difficult to see the possibility that this is all connected somehow.

    Craig murray reminding us about Assange is on point, as is your comment on McAfee. We can hardly expect to have any freedom without defending the whistleblowers who watch TPTB. A catch 22 that unwinds the entire fabric of civilisation if not carefully monitored. And fought for.

    John McAfee was being hunted for tax evasion from 10 states in the US and was due to be extradited from Spain back to the US. Allegedly this was due to the sale of Crypto. Having said that, he was the guy that cracked that terrorists iphone, right? McAfee was much smarter than he appeared (and much richer than us all) Why then did he end his life in a Spanish jail cell?

    Perhaps the answer is similar to these final moments with Jeffrey Epstein?

    #78146
    Germ
    Participant

    Raul – thanks for the Varon interview.
    Left me with a raised heart rate out of anger.

    #78147
    oxymoron
    Participant

    I don’t mention the art much but Edward Hopper, Van Gogh and Klimt have really moved me. Thanks for them they really help in a weird and inexplicable way.

    #78149
    userzeroid
    Participant

    @germ

    Thanks for all your work in sharing what you have been discovering in the field of medicine. The info is very useful and I have forwarded much of it on.

    I wondered if either you, Dr. John Day and anyone else in the comment section might be able to assist with some ‘unoffical’ advice concerning Ivermectin?

    Someone close to the family suffers from Essential Thrombocythemia and is taking hydroxycarbamide to lower their blood platelets. Do you see any dangerous interactions between Ivermectin and Hydroxycabamide?

    Obviously this is unofficial. Nothing in my comment and any subsequent response from persons at this website equates to official medical advice and cannot be misconstrued as such. You know, asking for a friend and all that 😉

    #78150
    Germ
    Participant

    Sorry Zerouserid can’t offer advice.

    #78151
    Germ
    Participant

    Cathay Pacific crew told to get vaccine or risk losing job

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-57592596

    #78153
    Germ
    Participant

    Government admits that half of new Covid-19 cases in last month were fully vaccinated
    Despite data, government is launching expanded campaign to vaccinate everyone over 12.

    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/308653

    They’ll come begging for Ivermectin. LOL

    #78154
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @userzeroid, webmd.com has a drug interaction checker. Maybe that can help answer your question?

    #78155
    absolute galore
    Participant

    Ivermectin and the lack of a true reason to issue Emergency Use Authorization for mRNA vaccines: I just don’t see how they walk this back. Not without some serious scapegoats, maybe official bureaucrats, but will that be enough after jabbing over 50% of the ENTIRE POPULATION with a medical experiment? Or will someone go back to the lab to concoct a variant resistant to Ivermectin….?

    This is way bigger than the drug company that got penalized for igniting the opioid crisis, I forget the details. On the other hand, people are so invested in the danger of Covid and the apparent success of the vaccines, they might just continue to black out, ride out the news cycle, ignore the evidence bubbling up until it goes away. This would explain the zeal to get every last man woman child vaccinated. No need to worry about a cover up when we’re all in it “together.” What’s to cover when we are all complicit in one way or another.

    Even with the rising chatter, none of my friends knows about Ivermectin. “I can’t believe there would be a drug that works and its not being used” is the most typical reaction when I tell people about it. I’ve given some of my stash to a friend and his son, the only close by people I know that have not been jabbed and don’t plan to be. Also have some for my sister whose doctors have advised she cannot safely take the vaccine due to her immune system issues.

    Quick question for the Jphn D or anyone with info
    : If you knock out Covid immediately with Iv, do you still develop a natural immunity, and how robust is it compared to someone who goes through the entire illness,or is put on the drug during a later stage of the disease? I suspect that aspect is probably not yet clear.

    Love this late Hopper. Hopper with a dash of surrealism and a nod to abstraction and color field painting. Works on all levels.

    #78156
    Germ
    Participant

    They are definitely coming for our kids.

    “Surgeon fired by College of Medicine for voicing safety concerns about Covid shots for children.”

    Surgeon fired by College of Medicine for voicing safety concerns about Covid shots for children

    #78157
    Germ
    Participant

    Growing list of covid era oddities.
    More than just odd.
    Evil …

    https://threader.app/thread/1407672473873747972

    #78158
    absolute galore
    Participant

    From today’s NYT digital front page:
    Science and Health
    Heart Problems After Vaccination Are Very Rare, Federal Researchers Say

    More than 1,200 cases have been reported, mostly mild and more often in young men and boys. The benefits of vaccination still far outweigh the risks, experts said.

    And what exactly are the risks to “young men and boys” again? Oh, right. The sniffles. Yeah, give me some of that mostly mild heart problems, please. Thank you!

    #78160
    Germ
    Participant

    They’re coming for our kids:

    “Huntsville City Schools will go on with its vaccination clinic for minors without parental consent

    https://yellowhammernews.com/huntsville-city-schools-will-go-on-with-its-vaccination-clinic-for-minors-without-parental-consent/

    #78161
    Germ
    Participant

    “Israel empowered health officials on Wednesday to quarantine anyone deemed to have been exposed to an especially infectious variant of COVID-19, even if they were previously vaccinated or recovered from the disease with presumed immunity.”

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/vaccinated-israelis-may-need-quarantine-because-delta-variant-2021-06-23/

    #78162
    scraplet
    Participant

    Anyone in the UK had a recent successful import of Ivermectin? If so, can you please share the portal you used? Thanks muchly in advance 🙂

    #78163
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Good to see Tucker Carlson have Dr Malone on his show. Large audience. Malone’s responses were intelligent and measured. When this all started in March 2020 I stupidly believed the virus was the problem. Later I realized the virus was the least of the problem, although even last fall I stupidly believed the experimental vaccines would be limited to adults only. I cannot, for the life of me, understand why any parent would *allow* their child to get this vaccine, much less be ecstatic about it. I’m getting demoralized. Does anyone here have something uplifting to share?

    #78164
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “Fully Vaccinated Israelis Exposed to “Delta” May Be Forced to Quarantine (ZH)”

    Vaccines don’t work. Or not in practice.

    “Administration of these shots to a previously-recovered person under 50 is…attempted manslaughter”

    It is, but we haven’t followed the law in 50 years. Who will bring the charges? The people committing the crime?

    WHO Official: Mask Mandates, Social Distancing Must Continue Indefinitely (SN)”

    18 months later, still hasn’t noticed every lockdown place is worst, every open place is best. Hasn’t noticed lockdowns were draconian in UK, NY, etc, totally, completely failed by every measure AND killed more people with abuse, alcohol, masks. Pull his license, clearly he is mentally incapable of executing medicine. Since the AMA agrees, also medically incapable of thought, who brings the charges?

    A: The People. They are the final jury. Don’t disarm them either of speech or of tools.

    “More Than 2M Adults in England Have Had Long Covid for Over 12 Weeks (G.)”

    Not stated, but I suspect the vaccine. …That they never needed, since they had the disease.

    England Set to Drop Face Mask Rules After Huge Economic Impact Revealed (SN)”

    What? When did this start? I thought we followed the medicine at the expense of all other human considerations or else you killed Grandma. “Every life is priceless” It’s “Capitalism” to have any cost-benefit discussions. “If it saves even ONE life…” Like not giving unneeded vaccines to children who aren’t at risk and probably already had it. In that case, 30x all 70 other vaccines combined is too few.

    And poor people lost 25% of income? While Bezos made $1T? What’s not to like? What brought on this fit of reckless Capitalism, England?

    A: They got their fascism installed, erased human rights, and now need some tax revenue. “Work, you maggots!”

    “Hillary Clinton Privately Warned France About Wuhan P4 Lab (HE)”

    Anybody follow up on Fauci developing vaccines with Modera years before Covid existed? Wow, he’s telepathic! I can’t find much on it if it’s true as suggested.

    Reposted from “Let’s Save Lives”:

    Sorry to be so frightful and a brat back when this started, I even bowed out for some time not to be a pest. However, it was so important and so clear, and I couldn’t not keep plugging, so I appreciate the support. I can just do so little. The only little thing I can do is tell the truth to some friends, so I do that.
    This is just what I did back in ’01 and the Patriot Act. Screaming, SCREAMING that this exact thing would happen, that it was all fake, all profit, all a power grab to trample anyone, erase all human rights.

    Here’s the thing though: Nobody listened then although it was way, way more obvious. It took years, ten years, not even now, really. So that the people can catch on in one year may be a hopeful sign even though I fear the risks are now wildly higher and may even be fatal.

    If the Elite can be pried out from the trust they don’t deserve, it will be a fair loss of life in the service of a greater war. A war they started and forced down on us. And right now, again we don’t know.

    At the beginning, also remember I was warning that encouraging parades and NOT closing the borders was dangerous considering Wuhan lost 200k cell phone signals. And they fought that just as hard saying that Covid existed was racist, made-up DT fantasy. That was back when Covid didn’t exist to Team Blue, but only Team Red, before they traded realites. ….Aaaaand no one noticed. Aaaaand now that never happened, Red has always denied it, we were always at war with Estasia. Sigh. But I did that because the highly-controlled evidence from China was concerning, and we needed some time to know more. NOT because I thought we should lockdown or that lockdowns and cutting 25% of wages for the poor while stimulus $1T for the rich would work. It wouldn’t and didn’t. We needed the information and then we (Team Red, sort of) got it and moved on.

    We’re like that now: We don’t know. About mRNA, I fear, and results are bad, but I don’t know yet. Waiting is very hard, especially when their position on the field suggests it’s a setup for sterilization and random-culling. I hope not, but honestly it already has. They failed at the initial release which wasn’t as deadly as when tested on run-down and vitamin D-deficient Uighurs, so I can only hope if what seems is true, the body is far more able to heal than most give credit and many could recover somewhat.

    Provided they get the truth and the treatments are advertised. Which are still being savaged by enormous mountain trolls on the field. They won’t even admit heart-damage in children, and heart-damage is not recoverable (in theory). Lifelong maiming of children, on purpose, for no statistical savings.

    Waiting, waiting. Frustrated and waiting. Forgive my bad language — I speak American, in a war — and I’m waiting. Like ol’ Willie from WWII. Bill Mauldin.

    War is months of endless boredom, punctuated by moments of complete terror.”

    Or how about: “No war is easy for those who fight it.” – Bill Mauldin, Up Front

    #78165
    Mr. House
    Participant

    now that minds are changing on the virus, what about the corporate color revolution that is occurring? That still just a conspiracy theory?

    #78166
    Mr. House
    Participant

    “We’ve focused on intently on the smoldering ashes that we have ignored the flames.

    You might be surprised to hear this woman speak and find that she is articulate. She is not screechy or huffy. She comes across as a white collar educated professional, the kind of person who gained from college and grad school not critical thinking skills nor the empathy born of exposure to a wide breadth of human knowledge, but the ability to make one’s statements sound measured and polite even when their substance is the sort of stuff most people would regard as manifestly insane.

    She went semi-viral a couple of weeks ago after audio emerged of her giving a talk at Yale in which she detailed her violent fantasies against white people. Here’s a quick hit of one of her Ivy League-worthy insights:

    I had fantasies of unloading a revolver into the head of any white person that got in my way, burying their body, and wiping my bloody hands as I walked away relatively guiltless with a bounce in my step. Like I did the world a fucking favor.

    In this interview linked at the top of this post, Khilanani clarifies her position. She didn’t really mean she had these fantasies. Or, she does, but not, like, really really. It’s good, she says, from a psychoanalyst’s perspective, to get people to confront their own violent fantasies. And then to project those violent fantasies onto others and criticize them for not reacting positively when being presented with images of their own ethnic cleansing. And this, apparently, only applies to white people. You tell a black or Asian person that you fantasize about killing them, they don’t take any offense to it at all. Nope. They like it. But white people get all defensive about stuff like that, and that’s what causes racism.

    In her interview with Katie Herzog, Khilanani specifically aimed her ire toward white liberals. Some based leftist-types mistakenly took for proof that she, herself, was based, seeking merely to own the libs. She’s not. She is an extreme, racist nihilist who views any attempt at racial harmony or uplift being much, much worse than outright racism and even racial violence. And her position is absolutely mainstream within contemporary anti-racist training.

    This is an important distinction that should be obvious but most people with a voice are just too cowardly to enunciate it. I get the general argument that black people can’t be racist since racism is structural (even though all recent discussions of it focus on individual mindsets), that even if a black person hates other races they’re not quite being racist, blah blah blah. Not saying I agree fully with this premise, especially in its more extreme recent manifestations, just that I understand it.

    This lady is doing a completely different type of racism, one that cannot be processed with the kindergarten-level understanding of “power imbalances” that’s now so popular among liberals. She is specifically arguing that anything short of overt, life-defining racism is problematic. That people should be understood exclusively according to their racial markings, that racial differences are irreconcilable to the point that different races are basically different species, and that social problems would be solved if only a clear-cut racial caste system were rigidly enforced.

    We’ve focused so much attention on the specific contours of the American version “race-blind” racism that we’ve come to regard that as the only, and therefore most malignant, form of racism. This has led to wokeists unironically adopting a much grander and more terrifying version of racism, one that can very fairly be regarded as Hiterlean.

    This is a suicidal death cult, one that rejects the firmaments of liberalism to such a degree that they believe any attempts at building a structured society will result in inequality so extreme that the only viable solution is murderous repression. They are, no joke, ideologically quite similar to ISIS, only their beef with the US mainstream is metaphorical imperialism like microaggressions, instead of the literal stuff. The fact that Khilanani’s oppression consists almost completely of petty, superficial bullshit does not diminish her sense of being oppressed. She, and many thousands like her, have become fully convinced that minor grievances constitute world-historic oppression, and that this oppression justifies any means of reaction they see fit.

    These are the people in charge right now. This is what liberalism is in the twenty twenties. “

    #78167
    Mr. House
    Participant

    CIA created ISIS
    CIA/FBI/.gov created WOKE

    #78168
    Mr. House
    Participant

    @Dr. D

    “No war is easy for those who fight it.” – Bill Mauldin, Up Front

    I have that book. Great read and love the comics. So sad that the author died like a week before the war ended in the pacific theater.

    #78169
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    @ absolute galore

    “Ivermectin and the lack of a true reason to issue Emergency Use Authorization for mRNA vaccines: I just don’t see how they walk this back. Not without some serious scapegoats, maybe official bureaucrats, but will that be enough after jabbing over 50% of the ENTIRE POPULATION with a medical experiment? Or will someone go back to the lab to concoct a variant resistant to Ivermectin….?”

    When covid first made noise, the TAE crowd identified it as a black swan game-changer. Your paragraph displays some of how much a game-changer it has been. I don’t know that people will storm the WHO/CDC Bastille, so to speak, but those authorities will never recover, and the governments aligned with them will be drastically changed by this.

    As for scapegoats, I wouldn’t be surprised if Fauci gets Epsteined. Or Trumped, if you prefer. He doesn’t seem able to keep his mouth shut.

    Meanwhile, now that the DNC/liberal zeitgeist have trashed themselves, we can look forward to a resumption of GOP/conservative stupidity also. Someone has to fill the void.

    Sanctuary!!!!

    As for taking das vakzine:

    Shave Your Head!

    #78170
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    Well, with this guy protecting us, I’m sure we’re safe.

    #78171
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Jan 6th was a false flag, been saying it from the start and will continue until new evidence arises that actually fits with .govs narrative

    #78172
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    Re: “Just Guns” comment:

    Pay no attention to that Asian backwater we’ve been in for the last 20 years.

    #78173
    Mr. House
    Participant

    “now that the DNC/liberal zeitgeist have trashed themselves”

    Has it? I still think its firmly in control, and the only way i can see it losing is if the election was shown to be fraudulent. Covid was a religion from the beginning and will continue to be, the new bible thumpers, and these people can not be reasoned with. Evidence does not sway them.

    #78174
    Mr. House
    Participant

    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/41243/the-national-guard-just-simulated-a-cyberattack-that-brought-down-utilities-nationwide

    So scared of something, so it only makes sense to make sure everything relies on that something!

    #78175
    userzeroid
    Participant

    Germ – No worries, thanks for replying and letting me know.

    Thanks for that upstateNYer, I had a look on webmd and drugbank and both showed no interactions

    #78176
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Does anyone else think this is the new Black Swan?

    we are about to run out of some stuff

    @ Mr. House

    “Has it? I still think its firmly in control, and the only way i can see it losing is if the election was shown to be fraudulent. Covid was a religion from the beginning and will continue to be, the new bible thumpers, and these people can not be reasoned with. Evidence does not sway them.”

    Inertia. It takes time to change partners. But it seems glaringly certain that, unless they pull their covid fat out of the fire real soon, they’ll burn up with all the lies they’ve told, people they’ve killed, and prosperities crushed.

    As for evidence: abstract evidence is one thing. Tangible physical reality is another. Physical reality is what runs the world, not our abstract belief systems. Physical reality is turning harshly against our mainstream DNC-dominated political reality. Swaying will happen.

    I agree about Jan 6 being a (rather ingenious) false flag.

    #78177
    zerosum
    Participant

    Evidence does not sway them.

    ANTONYMS OF evidence

    concealment, denial, hiding, contradiction, disproof, heresay, refutation

    NEW/ UPDATED ANTONYMS OF evidence

    No proof of wrong doing – Biden
    Fake news – Trump
    Russia,Russia,Russia – Nancy P
    Hunter Biden –
    ————

    #78178
    zerosum
    Participant

    Evidence does not sway them.

    https://www.the-sun.com/news/3141154/hunter-biden-latop-texts-prostitute-chateau-marmon-wife/
    NewsUS News
    HUNTER BUSTED Hunter Biden latest – Texts obtained from laptop ‘reveal he ordered prostitute to Chateau Marmon where he smoked crack’
    What is the alleged video of Hunter Biden ‘smoking crack’?
    Did Hunter Biden say the N-word?
    Who is Hunter Biden’s wife Melissa Cohen?
    What did Hunter Biden’s text messages say?
    Julia Fields
    11:30 ET, Jun 24 2021Updated: 11:30 ET, Jun 24 2021

    #78179
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Regarding…
    “Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty & well preserved body; but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, & loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!”
    ~Hunter S. Thompson

    To each their own. Me, for one, I have been on such wild rides a few too many times in the past decade, and while I value having having event and life components that hold great personal significance, I prefer my life’s pace to be more leisurely.

    #78180
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    I do think Jan. 6 was a false flag as well, but it seems my attempt at comedy missed the mark. Reference for the Babylon Bee tweet:

    President Biden made headlines on Wednesday after suggesting in a rambling gun control speech that gun owners who want to take on the government would need “F-15s and maybe some nuclear weapons.””

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/bidens-widely-mocked-f-15s-and-nukes-speech-latest-string-gun-control-blunders

    #78181
    John Day
    Participant

    @Userzeroid: I’d have to look up drug interactions between hydroxycarbamide (a drug I don’t prescribe) and ivermectin. I have no special insights. This is not a regulalry prescribed drug.

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