June 25, 2020 at 11:39 am #60431
Thomas Eakins Walt Whitman 1891 • Strzok’s Newly Discovered FBI Notes Deliver Jolt To ‘Obamagate’ Evidence (JTN) • Flynn Dismissal Order ‘Thoro
[See the full post at: Debt Rattle June 25 2020]June 25, 2020 at 12:46 pm #60432
Did Walt Whitman ever write anything racist? Anyone know? How about Thoreau?June 25, 2020 at 12:54 pm #60433
The Worldometer screenshot is yesterday’s, and I’m away from my Mac, so I can’t change it right now. Sorry for that.June 25, 2020 at 12:58 pm #60434
“Be careful out there!”
…. use a lockdown wisely.
Seniors, that I know, have wisely changed their socialization activities to minimize their contacts.
I take a vitamin D before or after contact with the grandkids. Its might be a placebo or it might work.
In any case its soothing.
The trend, USA, at the top of the trend, is meeting my expectations.
Navel-gazing is suppose to help to change a persons actions that are detrimental to one-self.
“what about Brazil, Mexico, India and more?”
USA does not lie.
Countries with lower numbers than the USA are lying.
——–June 25, 2020 at 1:15 pm #60435Carlos JimenezParticipant
Last night driving back home from work on ‘miraculously’ light traffic freeways since Covid, I thought of the plethora of biz that are not coming back and how longer the perpetual growth system can keep the Wile E. Coyote moment of levitation.
In this neck of the woods it seems, for quite some time but for Covid turning into a sort of the Antonine plague: the $ 1bn David Beckham stadium is going to go ahead, with a sister development by the Graham family. Elsewhere and anywhere in SoFlo you can’t swing a cat without hitting expressway expansions, cranes and luxury high rises going up along with the rental condo ‘communities’. To whom they shall rent, idk. An arrangement without a future, Kunstler would mutter. And I nod too.
The low fatality rate of Covid, might never turn into the plague that Marcus Aurelius had to run the empire over but the ominous increase of infections without a foreseeable end might just be the stake that goes through the heart of the ‘growth machine’ and leaves millions of hapless unemployed
without food and shelter, in concrete jungles… A worst prospect than the virus itself.
It’s becoming apparent to me that the economy will go down with or without a lock down. It’s an interesting time to live. In an earth ship bereft of any frontiers the only outcome may be a brutal contraction for the ages. Yet, slaves to industrial society we are. For who’s gonna mind the 400 ticking time bomb-nuke plants ’round the world without a complex society?
We are called Homo sapiens and science is our god. What a joke.June 25, 2020 at 1:24 pm #60436EnginerParticipant
As I noted yesterday, the summer heat, driving people back into air conditioned spaces with recirculated air is counterproductive in eliminating the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
It was called to my attention that areas where less people have access to air conditioning – Greece, some poor areas in Africa – many others, are less-affected by Covid-19.
“Open the windows!”June 25, 2020 at 1:29 pm #60437
Dont remember anything racist in Walden. given these times a quote of his comes to mind. True before the pandemic and even more so after.
“I would rather sit on a pumpkin and have it all to myself, than be crowded on a velvet cushion.”
Just want to give a thumbs up to Steven McNeil and the way Nova Scotia handled the virus – 0 cases now for a couple of weeks. He never wavered in the message. “Stay the blazes home” Even have to give Justin some credit. message stayed the same and they both listened to the science. Mistakes were made certainly but overall I would give them high marks. I feel sorry for the people in the states the president waviering back and forth like a fart in the wind. A tale of leadership and putting others first instead of self first. . I just hope Justin can stay strong in keeping the border closed. What we need is a wall – a beautiful wall and we should make America pay for it. – oh wait I must have fallen on my head.June 25, 2020 at 1:36 pm #60438
Only in the USA
Lawmakers from both parties urge Trump administration to keep funding seven coronavirus testing sites
The federal government plans to cease funding for the sites at the end of June.
BY ABBY LIVINGSTON JUNE 24, 2020
WASHINGTON — Elected officials from both parties joined together in recent days to push back against the Trump administration’s intention to stop funding seven Texas coronavirus testing sites at the end of the month.
At issue are federal plans to stop funding sites in Houston, El Paso and Dallas on June 30, as first reported by Talking Points Memo. The sites are a small piece of a much longer list of sites across the state run by private entities, local governments and the state. But the lawmakers are calling for the federal government to keep funding them as the number of Texans testing positive for the virus soars in Texas, particularly in the Houston region.
“Without FEMA’s supplies, fiscal aid and personnel, these sites may no longer be able to serve our communities. … FEMA’s removal in this moment would be harmful and irresponsible,” they added. “We urgently ask you to extend FEMA’s presence at these testing sites through August 30, 2020.”
” ….urge Trump administration to keep funding “June 25, 2020 at 1:46 pm #60439
“Regarding the benefits of community: the inability of a deeply hypnotized populace to do anything but what they’re told (and as little of that as possible) precluded the inability of most people to adjust to covid in any but a bipolar way: run inside and hide from the Black Death! vs. Fuck that shit, I’m going swimming!”
This evokes the conundrum of what to do with people who have no gainful work to do, or what they may decide to do themselves, as well as what those who lose their employment may choose to do or whether they will remain idle and decay over time.
People don’t necessarily RETURN to productive work, nor do they necessarily make the transition from paid compliance tasks to innovative and creative production of real food, goods or services.
The pandemic of measles and smallpox, which destroed native populations of the Americas and the Pacific Islands opened the door for immigrants to fill the gap, and immigrants did.
If many people North America are unable to make the transition to something like subsistence farming without air conditioning, then history says the neighbors who grew up like that will take their places.
It’s well underway in Texas, in my lifetime. I did grunt work summer jobs in the 1970s, and there were other young college and high school students and young and middle aged back guys doing basic warehouse, kitchen and construction work then, too,
Not lately… Austin got a makeover. All of the productive and blue collar jobs have gone to Spanish speakers, who went through hell and high water to get here and work for less than Americans, and work hard, and do good work. We’re putting a serious drain on Mexican talent.
In a little over 40 years, there has been a wholesale transition in the local labor force, and it has been pretty steady for the past 10 – 20 years, just some older back hoe operators retiring, and forement retiring, being replaced by native Spanish Speakers.
Is this “white fragility” or “black fragility”? The children of these immigrant workers are pretty similar in their work proclivities to the white and black kids they attend school with. Some work with Dad; not so many.
The demographic transition in the US was offshoring of productive work and blue-collar initiative, and it’s replacement with private prisons for the masses who had no work, and slipped into crime. (YOU, Out Of The Gene Pool!) Those who could jump through more and more and more hoops, and keep complying with more and more and more detailed regulations, could maintain their employment, even in fields, such as medicine, which used to be dynamic, full of talent and initiative, and competition to find the new best cure, treatment or solution. The way the AIDS pandemic was engaged was very innovative, fast moving, and the most talented doctors got big followings of patients by constantly advancing the “cutting edge” of diagnosis and treatment to keep the gays alive for a cure tht would come. It basically did come, and some of those guys from the 1980s are still alive on their highly effective antiretroviral treatments.
The difference today is that Dr Fauci is running the whole US response to this leaked bioweapon, which the US, China and Canada, so presumably the UK, too, all had.
No individual medical initiative will be systemically tolerated, even if treating doctors all across the world, even in the US, are doing so, and there is substantial evidence of benefit.
We may just be subject to replacement if we can’t aggregate our collective feces.
John-grows-vegetablesJune 25, 2020 at 2:07 pm #60440
Thanks for adopting the Texas Covid hockey-stick graph.June 25, 2020 at 2:24 pm #60441
I hope that the lack of federal money, and resources, for testing is not affecting you and your patients.June 25, 2020 at 3:34 pm #60442
No money – no testing – no health care – bankruptcy
I did a search for an article from Zero Hedge
“Catastrophic Financial Challenges” – 42 Hospitals Closed, Filed For Bankruptcy Due To COVID Pressures
Here is what Google gave – About 2,670 results (0.42 seconds)
A lot of web pages reported the same info from Zero Hedge
Everybody wants or needs money.
The American Hospital Association (AHA) warns, in a new report, that “hospitals and health systems face catastrophic financial challenges in light of the COVID-19 pandemic.”
From soaring COVID-19 costs to canceled services to plunging hospital revenue to purchasing personal protective equipment to reimbursement landscape challenges to decreasing patient volumes, many of these factors have triggered a recent bankruptcy wave and or closures of hospitals across the country.
AHA said the virus pandemic has created a cash crunch for many hospitals. These medical facilities are expected to lose upwards of $200 billion between March 1 and June 30, or about an average of $50.7 billion per month. U.S. nonfederal hospitals are expected to lose approximately $161.4 billion in revenue over the four months, due to canceled services (including nonelective surgeries and outpatient treatment).
Becker’s Hospital CFO Report provides a complete list of hospital bankruptcies or closures since January 1. These hospitals collectively operated 42 facilities.
(read more ….)June 25, 2020 at 3:45 pm #60443
“Not lately… Austin got a makeover. All of the productive and blue collar jobs have gone to Spanish speakers”
True here in Portland, too, altho not as much.
“(YOU, Out Of The Gene Pool!)”
U funnee man. 🙂
My tribal name is Robin Makes the Coffee.
“Elected officials from both parties joined together in recent days to push back against the Trump administration’s intention to stop funding seven Texas coronavirus testing sites at the end of the month.” (itals mine)
It seems Trump feels that reportage of rising covid in his core state will hurt his reelection prospects?
In which many things are made adamantly concrete, including the fact it isn’t really happening until the banjo kicks in:
In which is it further demonstrated that even the banjo steps back when the bass decides things need to get down (3:16):
“For who’s gonna mind the 400 ticking time bomb-nuke plants ’round the world without a complex society?”
Some of those time bombs may falter from neglect, but I suspect most of them will be managed and worked hard. Energy is energy. Russia isn’t going to collapse from covid, and Russia has an expanding nuclear industry. I think the expertise to maintain existing nuke plants will be available.June 25, 2020 at 4:09 pm #60444
It occurs to me in an Alfred E. Newman epiphany that I don’t recall reading here, or thinking myself, that perhaps the main logic behind official responses to covid is the same as most official responses to anything in recent years: cover up as many glaring official blunders and dire official crimes as possible.
We all know that was what drove the Impeach Trump spectacle.
To cite a little known Brain Wilson song:June 25, 2020 at 4:52 pm #60445
@Boscohorowitz, “You funny , man”: about for-profit-prisons and offshoring being a form of eugenics.
It’s the end of an error… :-)
The Depression Dominoes Are Toppling, Charles Hugh Smith
Once you allow your economy to become dependent on extremes of debt, leverage, inequality, legalized looting, monopoly, pay-to-play politics and speculative asset bubbles, a depression is inevitable.
The pandemic lockdown will be blamed for the Greater Depression, but the lockdown only toppled all the dominoes that were already lined up. The lockdown would have been survivable if the economy hadn’t been over-indebted, over-leveraged, burdened by insanely high costs, stripmined by greedy monopolies, dependent on stock market fraud, destabilized by extreme inequality, corrupted by political pay-to-play and addicted to speculation...
It’s worth recalling that every dollar of debt is someone else’s asset and the source of their income. So when the defaults and bankruptcies sweep through the financial system, they’ll obliterate all the “wealth” of those holding bundled student and auto loan securities, mortgage backed securities, corporate bonds, and destroy the income streams these trillions in debt generated...
Once you allow your economy to become dependent on extremes of debt, leverage, inequality, legalized looting, monopoly, pay-to-play politics and speculative asset bubbles, a depression is inevitable. The only question is “when,” and that’s been answered, though nobody wants to hear it: 2020 and beyond.
Defund the messenger:
COVID Testing Sites to Lose Federal Funding Even as Fauci Calls for More Testing
This article fails to comprehend that needing a vaccine twice per year is twice as good for business!
Chinese study: Antibodies in COVID-19 patients fade quickly
File under: “All bleeding stops”:
(Governor Abbot is keeping bars and strip clubs open but advising hospitals to stop doing elective surgery because they are getting too full.)
Texas is on the verge of a Covid crisis: Houston’s largest hospital’s ICU is 97% full as daily cases surge to record highs and expert predicts ‘herd immunity may be the only way to stop the virus’
Texas Medical Center in Houston said 97% of its ICU beds are occupied, and its normal occupancy rate is 70% to 80%
It has an emergency plan to increase the number of ICU beds from 1,462 to 2,649, but expect they will all fill up in just two weeks
New York wants Texans to quarantine for 2 weeks, now.
“The Despair Is Smoldering in Society”
Millions of Americans have seen their wages stagnate for decades, even as the wealthiest have grown fantastically rich. Economists Angus Deaton and Anne Case believe the health-care system is partly to blame, and the coronavirus is highlighting the broader dangers American society is facing.
The Onion, MENLO PARK, CA—In an effort to curtail the organization’s outsized influence, Facebook announced Monday that it would be implementing new steps to ensure the breakup of the U.S. government before it becomes too powerful. “It’s long past time for us to take concrete actions against this behemoth of governance that has gone essentially unchecked since its inception,” said Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg
https://www.theonion.com/facebook-announces-plan-to-break-up-u-s-government-bef-1844121902June 25, 2020 at 5:21 pm #60448
” obliterate all the “wealth” of …”
I disagree ….. I’ve been saying … Its a jubilee for the selected elites.
Otherwise the system crashes and the elites will not allow that kind of destruction upon themselves.June 25, 2020 at 5:29 pm #60449
Money for the sake of money is a sickness of the mind. If one has gained even a modicum of wisdom, at some point happiness comes from knowing when enough is enough. The mentally sick people are now running and ruining the world. We place them on pedestals. Would we place gluttons or perverts on pedestals so why the greedy. Just sayingJune 25, 2020 at 5:54 pm #60452thomasjkenneyParticipant
@zerosum re: jubilee
There’s only so much ‘real’ wealth to go around. That presents a dilemma: Do you bribe your underlings in dollars that will soon be worthless, or do you start paying them in a more portable currency and trigger a panic? Only some of the elites will get to keep their Patagonian National Parks.June 25, 2020 at 6:25 pm #60453
“Otherwise the system crashes and the elites will not allow that kind of destruction upon themselves.”
THe system will crash, jubilee or not. THat large a bubble has a life of its own. Money veolocity will go Sargasso. The elites are as fucked as anyone, but being obtuse self-absorbed privilegati obsessed by covering their ass while stuffing their faces, they don’t see it.
Oh, they’ll pull a jubilee, I would think. It just won’t work. It will be like standing in a giant’s toilet and pulling the flush handle.June 25, 2020 at 6:30 pm #60454
right “Only some of the elites will get to keep their Patagonian National Parks.”
Now look at the following. This is how the money is given to trickill up to the selected elites
Canada Emergency Student Benefit (CESB)
The Canada Emergency Student Benefit (CESB) provides financial support to post-secondary students, and recent post-secondary and high school graduates who are unable to find work due to COVID-19.
Job searching while receiving the Canada Emergency Student Benefit
Total unique applicants
Total dollar value of CESB paid
$ 1.28 billion
Two birds with one stone.
Where are the students going to spend this money?
The money needs to be given to the students, by the government, to save the capitalists.June 25, 2020 at 6:33 pm #60455
“Only some of the elites will get to keep their Patagonian National Parks.”
I say more like the younger lieutenants of said elites. WHo wants to feed a useless old fuck when his power is gone? HIs money, old or new, is useless at that point. The world wants young strong backs, certain kinds of expertize, reliable water, lots of timber, tillable soil under a moderate climate, reliable defense methods that don’t involve blowing up the stuff you want to defend or commandeer…
The elites inability to manage affairs for anyone’s benefit but their short-term own, makes them useless to anyone including themselves when the consequences of their destructive selfish nonsense can no longer be forestalled or passed on to others.
Why does everybody opbsess on the creeps in alleged charge so much?
THey’re fucking useless to us, and focusing on them renders us useless to our children and grandchildren.
There is no longer even thinking/acting inside/outside the box: the box is gone. There is just thinking/acting.June 25, 2020 at 6:43 pm #60457
ALso, this inane obsession we have with money. Money long ago became primarily a weapon of mass destruction that has destroyed human civilizatin even as it grew it to enormous globalized size.
(“The LOVE of money is the root of all evil,” said a Jewish wag. Not money, the love thereof.)
Anyway, it’s like obsessing over having enough nuclear weapons in a post-nuclear apocalyptic world.
This is not just another political milieu. This is the end of an empire that makes Rome or even Khanate China appear both tiny and sticks’n’stones primitive. This is a fall of a very large body (7.7 billion people) from a very large height.
We are obviously not running out of money. W are running out of things. If not so, we’d be complacently performing our drone duties for Pharaoh like a mule pursuing a carrot held before its nose. The rich would become increasingly wealthy/powerful and it would be much like Orwell predicted with his infamous bootheel remark.
But we ARE running out of things in a system designed to be ruled and exploited by the elites via selling things to us and taking a bite out of every manufacture and transaction.
I don’t mean to be mocking, but it seems almost superstitious, this blind faith we have in the creeps allegedly in charge. Whether we’re trusting sheeple or skeptical wolves, virtually everyone seems hypnotized by Pharaoh as something like unto God.
I’ve seen pictures of Trump and Soros. Gates and Musk, Pelosi and Lindsey Graham. Not gods. Not even impressive humans except Nanci was cute in her day and has an impressive rack.June 25, 2020 at 6:49 pm #60458
“THey’re fucking useless to us, and focusing on them renders us useless to our children and grandchildren.”
– Said the rifraf
The elites are in hiding.
Who we see are their highly paid, specialized, dependent, slavish, university educated, drones.June 25, 2020 at 7:06 pm #60460
Now you’re venturing into the mystical, quaasi-Biblical: “No man can look on the face of God and live.”
You’ve crossed over into bogeyman territory.
Putin is very elite. He is nobody’s drone although he has to cooperate, i.e., make himself useful in a broad enough way, not to be majorly challenged.
He rules by the sword via an electoral process of middling integrity (better than ours, I’ll wager). He isn’t hiding. He’s taking photo-ops bare-chested on horseback.
Elites have no special power. Hiding means one cannot stand the light of day. Hiding is not a show of strength.
Some will hang onto some of what they’ve got. I daresay most of Russia’s oligarchs will hold onto theirs, because Russia is not running out of nearly so many necessary things as we are. (Also, after some initial disruption, global climate change will probably be their friend.)
But Russia is out of the crash loop. Russia already did its jubilee after its crash, has paid off those debts necessary to retain street cred, told the Euromerican banking establishment to piss off, and is in far better shape than any other nation to go through this amazing historical extinction event in relative comfort. It’s oligarchs are not hidden, and no one p;ulls their strings from some inviiiiisiiiible power like Mental Moonbeam Magic.
This worhip of mere fat cats is ludicrous unless one wants to make a mystery cult about some superpower they alone possess. (Which is possible. David Icke may be right.)June 25, 2020 at 7:47 pm #60463
Could not agree more. !!!! they are miserable wankers who never learned the basic concept of society. A 4 year old knows it if he has any kind of upbringing. – Robbie Roberson new it , put it in a song – Take what you need and leave the rest. Sickness of the mind or/and raised by nannies and no moral compass. Can you imagine if, when you were 5 years old ,you walked into kindergarten and took all the toys. In my hood you would have had the snot beat out of you, by the other kids until you woke the fuck up.June 25, 2020 at 8:49 pm #60466Doc RobinsonParticipant
Houston’s largest hospital’s ICU is 97% full as daily cases surge to record highs and expert predicts ‘herd immunity may be the only way to stop the virus’
However, herd immunity may be impossible because…
Chinese study: Antibodies in COVID-19 patients fade quickly
“A new study from China showed that antibodies faded quickly in both asymptomatic and symptomatic COVID-19 patients during convalescence, raising questions about whether the illness leads to any lasting immunity to the virus afterward.”
Sweden has been trying unsuccessfully for months:
Sweden’s ‘herd immunity’ hopes are fading as only a small fraction of the population has coronavirus antibodies. Just 6.1% of the population of Sweden had developed coronavirus antibodies by late May.June 25, 2020 at 9:08 pm #60467
Too funny. If we don’t want to be cyclically ravaged by a steadily mutating flu virus, we may have to learn to actually eat simply and healthilyy, and work mostly outdoors as in yore.
A question: any ideas on whether a rapidly mutating virus, in response to which our bodies seem to fail at producing lasting immunity, allowing this rapid mutater to git us agin an agin, will itself become more adept at defeating what antibodies our bodies produce? Darwinian adaptation making the virus stronger in relation to us.June 25, 2020 at 9:22 pm #60468
SInce it occurred to me just now, and some folks here are interested in these things, anyone notice that the literal version of the Noachian Flood has God exterminating nearly all wildlife because humanity is a shit stain?
I believe there were post-glacial floods in the Mediterranean (I’m from Missoula flood territory, so I’m very familiar with the kinds of mega-floods glacial dams can create), as some researchers hypothesize. And physics and the geological record make it plain that a global flood couldn’t and didn’t happen.
It amazes me how people interpret this weirdly grand old holy book with such credulous literalism. Most people didn’t even know there was a global world back then thoose myth were written into record. The Mediterranean WAS the world to them. I can certainly conceive of some Noah building a bunch of vessels and putting in breeding pairs of animals become symbiotic with the people. And glacial floods do indeed kill an awful clot of life. Hell, they tend to sweep the soil down to bedrock.
But I’m amazed and appalled at how most of Xtianity never seems to think of the appalling injustice and cruelty of God wiping out almost all of an entire planet’s biosphere because He doesn’t like how his favorite monkey people are acting.June 25, 2020 at 9:23 pm #60469
Crystal ball fogged up before revealing the answer.
🙂June 25, 2020 at 9:52 pm #60470Doc RobinsonParticipant
“A question: any ideas on whether a rapidly mutating virus, in response to which our bodies seem to fail at producing lasting immunity, allowing this rapid mutater to git us agin an agin, will itself become more adept at defeating what antibodies our bodies produce? Darwinian adaptation making the virus stronger in relation to us.”
Since you asked for ideas (not expertise), I’ll take a shot. The mutations which are deadlier to the host may tend to die out sooner (along with the hosts). The coronaviruses which are “kinder” to humans (like those which cause the common cold) may stick around a long time, continuing to mutate.
Regarding COVID-19, “It’s important to realize that overall, the mutation rate of this virus is not particularly high (in line with other coronaviruses, actually). But they do accumulate; there’s a fearful amount of viral replication going on out there, and not all of it goes perfectly. A single patient may have several mutational strains going at the same time as the virus replicates, and there’s been a report of a person who turned out to be infected simultaneously by two strains with different geographic origins, which is bad luck.”
“…a virus spreading through a population may be going through a long series of consecutive founder events/bottlenecks, punctuated by bursts of replication once a new host is infected, each time with new possibilities for random-error mutations and selection pressure from the host’s defenses. Factor in the extreme speed with which the viruses can replicate when they get the chance, and you have a literal example of the phrase “evolution in action”, right in front of your eyes.”June 25, 2020 at 10:18 pm #60471
“Crystal ball fogged up before revealing the answer.
MOuth-breather. 😉 Gotta hold your breath in suspense if you want an answer.June 25, 2020 at 10:21 pm #60472
““It’s important to realize that overall, the mutation rate of this virus is not particularly high (in line with other coronaviruses, actually).”
THanx for fixing that misinformation of mine.
“The mutations which are deadlier to the host may tend to die out sooner (along with the hosts). The coronaviruses which are “kinder” to humans (like those which cause the common cold) may stick around a long time, continuing to mutate.”
It’s the MIddle Way (not too lethal, not too benign) that seems most apt to produce long wicked fat tailed evolutionary developments, it seems.June 25, 2020 at 10:40 pm #60473WESParticipant
Different Strzoks for different folks. (Hope you know he is Iranian just like his half Iranian girlfriend!)
One thing Strzok’s note has in common with James Comey’s memos, Andrew McCabe’s memos, and Susan Rice’s memo to self, is they all appear to be legal cover your ass (CYA) memos. They are meant to provide legal distancing should things go wrong!
Why did they all do CYAs in the last minutes of Obama’s administration?
Well that is because “dumb” James Clapper, “infected”, them, Obama, and Biden, at a January 5th meeting at the White House, by bringing in a paper trail of the spying they were doing into the meeting!
Being mostly lawyers, they all instantly knew they needed plauseable deniability of this “infection” which they all knew was illegal!
None wanted to be set up by the others of being the “bag holder”!
No honor amoung criminals who knew they were criminals!
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