Debt Rattle March 12 2025
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March 12, 2025 at 10:56 am #184025
Raúl Ilargi Meijer
KeymasterJames Ensor The intrigue 1890 • Ukraine Open To ‘Immediate’ 30-Day Ceasefire If Russia Agrees: State Dept (JTN) • 30-Day Truce: US Lifts Pause
[See the full post at: Debt Rattle March 12 2025]March 12, 2025 at 11:25 am #184027Dr D Rich
ParticipantWell hot god f*cking damn, Elon found himself a selfless billionaire……
…..and it’s him.Rest assured.
We’re safe now.In his own words I suppose:
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“Dramatically increasing my risk of being assassinated and engaging in politics are not what I want to do. I do not have a death wish but the stakes are so high that I really feel I have no choice but to do it.”
I betcha Elongated Musk girded his loins first, you know, before making His Selflessness Pronouncement.
JD “ever the Appalachian’ responded:
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Git ‘er done! Yee haw!
March 12, 2025 at 12:27 pm #184029Dr. D
ParticipantRemember Pi Day, Friday:
Canada caves 4 hours after throwing down the gauntlet. Like last time, with Trudeau, this is exactly as if it was all pre-written and engineered. Maximum Effort. It has to be over-over the top attack then an over-over the top surrender to cut through the noise. Even so, barely does.
I guess we’ll see. I wonder what Canadians think of it, self-hating and burning their own flags until 5 minutes ago, suddenly, when Trump speaks, they snap to attention! Why I say, sir! It’s embarrassing. Be your own nation, ignore this joker. If you’d been doing what you ought – and what most Canadians have wanted all along – you wouldn’t be in this mess.
“The Right Is Being Shut Out Of Government Across Europe
Again, this is what they want and engineer. They FORCE the Right to become something they don’t want to be. Then pirate and ride that ship instead. This seems to have derailed here in the U.S. as our “Right” is “Leave me alone” party and not an authoritative one. We’re on the third axis of Liberty, and apparently that runs straight through the population despite everything they tried for 30 years. Even now, still at it, “Patriot Front” everyone laughs at them instantly. Calls them Feds, Instantly. Hates the KKK and other groups which should get some spillover, instantly, instinctively. It’s just not there.
That’s largely true of, say, UK, with Sargon, etc being really the same Liberal Values guys the Americans are. Except if the King would support that, he’d have no trouble supporting the King.
“Department of Education To Cut Half Its Workforce
Good, as maybe children can get an education now, but really there’s no money to be saved there. It’s just mopping up work, as most of our domestic spending is. It’s all in Pentagon and Interest payments.
Who else is sad USAID wasn’t shut off BEFORE 10,000 Syrians were murdered and left in the street by ISIS? Thanks, Joe. “I Did That!”
“FBI Redactions On Seth Rich Index Leave No AnswersReally? How about the question why he FBI is involved in a local robbery? Do you always have a thousand federal pages on a street mugging?
“House Passes Full-Year Stopgap As Democrat Crosses Party Lines, Massie Votes ‘No’
Trump then primaries Massey, the MAGA base fall into like by telling him, “GFY, we like Massey”. Ah, a cult to the end. Always rejecting their leader and everything he says, endlessly arguing amongst themselves. And also mocking Vance.
On that, question comes up, “Is the ENTIRE last 10 years of raw insanity due to having nothing but women in media?” How? Like, this Vance Meme thing – which keeps expanding! — has a “Atlantic” story (I think) that is about how “MAGA is turning on and mocking their own,” etc. Huh? Like, you actually THOUGHT that…wait. It was suspected the original Vance meme was him sitting on the couch, and they keep making him fatter and rounder. Like “Ha ha”, bullying him, “Boy will he be sorry now! Everyone in math class will hate him!” Instead, all the BOYS, the MEN, are like “That’s hilarious, do it more.” Like women think this is bullying, deadly, social opprobation, tantamount to banishment, a real hit, an honest, earnest attack. Men are like ribbing each other, not only does every attack make them stronger, THEY DIDN’T EVEN NOTICE. …No wonder the women are all so pissed off all the time. They’re like roundhousing him in their parlance, and he didn’t even notice they exist. They’re mosquitoes, non-entities.
And this isn’t out here, in honest comments, meme-land, but way up at all layers of media. All 100% feminized, not a pair of balls from here to the shores of the Potomac. …I found out this is true of all male reading. There is like ONE publishing house in the country that prints any books men might read – and hardly that since they publish other stuff too. Like Comics, D&D it’s a 99% hostile, genocidal takeover, like when Pharaohs take over Egypt and expunge former leaders from the record: all books, writings, accounting ledgers, statues, everything. Erased in a violent pyre to the gods of intolerance and hate. That’s the publishing industry right now.
Want more? Know what they replaced it with? Porn. …But you see, this is Gurl-Porn so it’s alright then. Book shops are now like, “Not only are 90% of what I can get graphic slop fantasy erotica, but they are ALSO done up in Young Adult covers and themes so this porn is constantly handed to children.” Of course. These are not “Books” in the normal sense. They’re Modern Harlequin that would make 100 years of bodice rippers blush. Explicit, endless, female fantasy raw sex, taking up huge pages, fan fiction.
There is a rumor that men were authors once. But it’s only a rumor. Your odds of getting published are now statistically ZERO. Even if you’re a man writing on gay feminist transgender vegan mystery novels. Now why don’t men read? Why kain’t my boy read?
“Judge Halts Deportation Of Columbia University Pro-Palestinian Protest Leader
As expected but not caught til now, the RIGHT is now lying and omitting pivotal facts as a general thing. This guy is MARRIED to a U.S. citizen. Yeah, that changes it some. Another one I caught? Apparently that Fent Lab in Canada was caught in October, long before Trump’s pressure.
“Former Philippines President Duterte ‘Forcibly Taken’ On Plane Bound For The Hague
And yet George Bush roams free.
Tucker: Huh? Elon is South African. Even Americans no longer know simple branches of government (clearly) and where SS Fund fits in. (It sort of does, he’s somewhat wrong on this, because: lying). Why can he “message”? Huh? “He’s in charge of everything?” Huh? He wants the SAME THING as usual? With the SAME people, Paulson, who HID everything for his OWN company? Then by hiding it, it all got swept, contained, and not addressed?
I hear this a lot. Uhhh, folks, for 100 years, One hunnnned, they have TRIED the nice way, with the scalpel, and buppkis, zero, nada. Nothing moves, not a single change. THAT’S HOW WE GOT HERE, with $36 Trillion and $1 Trillion every 100 – probably every 60 days by now.
The constant round is: Well, he found some waste, BUT! But I don’t like the way he’s doing it, why does he have to tell everyone, etc. W. T. F. ???? Again and ALWAYS not mad at the waste, not stopping that, ALWAYS stopping the messenger and the fix.
That was Elon himself, yesterday, saying “You don’t like it, DOGE, what exact PART do you take issue with?” They have a case of the feelz when they see his face is the part they have issue with, every specific act is both legal and irrefutable. Or they would do that.
What a heap of nonsense. You are not a serious country. You are not a serious people. You’re going to lose your nation, hand it to evil, not even notice then say “Duh, whut?” This is exactly what Globalists were telling you, TO YOUR FACE. You shake your fist at them, then sign the first contract they put down.
“Stephen Miller on the stock market dip”
Everything’s too complicated for me even to take a pitch at. So: sorry. But Stocks down, prices down = Dollar UP. All these things have a denominator. Cutting off money printing = Dollar UP. Great. We call that DEFLATION. Whoops, not great. But the alternative is INFLATION. Also not Great. See what’s going on here? Trump is bad either way, m’kay! Up, down or center = Trump R Bad.
Essentially they front-load the pain, drop the markets that so desperately need it, and hope you have some economic motion and hope by the midterms. This should monkey-hammer Europe and elsewhere at the same time.
…Don’t worry, when they start proceedings for Epstein, everyone here will find some new reason to Black Pill and surrender. It’s always time to surrender. We shall surrender on the beaches, be glum, and always, always surrender. Never take a W when you can take an L.
I’m just sad it’s been so long they can’t arrest them all. Because that would be “Everyone”. There’d be like 20 guys left in government.
“• Ukraine Open To ‘Immediate’ 30-Day Ceasefire If Russia Agrees: State Dept (JTN)
On what terms? You want that so you don’t take a hit from Kursk catastrophe (again) and can rearm? Didn’t we do this in Minsk?
WHYYYYY do we need a ceasefire? Why?
What do I mean? Putin already said there’s a ceasefire. All Ukraine has to do is STOP INVADING RUSSIA. …Because those 5 oblasts are Constitutionally Russia and that’s where the fighting is. If they withdrew past the Dniper, there’d be nothing for Russia to shoot at, would there? Demonstrates Every. Single. Word. By the Combined West. Is a lie.
“document that says Ukraine will not be part of NATO. Only then can a truce maybe be considered.”
Terms. The terms are: your unconditional surrender.
“Trump should end America’s unconditional support of Israel. To enable genoide with weapons, money, and diplomatic cover is not making America great.”
Why can’t Trump fix everything, everywhere at once in eight weeks? I don’t understand, and I want a pony. That poops skittles.
““The Maga Right has none of the inhibitions of its predecessors. It is planning to leverage the power of a recaptured state to annihilate its enemies..”
Are they though? Strange way to do it. Court calls almost certain unconstitutional decisions and Trump says, “Aw shucks.” What a terrible dictator, power-mad, annihilating his enemies…by meekly acquiescing to them. …As Dictators do, of course.
“Trump reportedly views with utter disdain the UK and European boast that should the U.S. not do it, then Europe will.”
I don’t know if “Disdain”. That’s an emotion. That emotion could be captured and leveraged. My read is, he shrugs and disagrees, leaving them to it. IDGAF. Go ahead, and go ahead and buy our weapons (at the moment) for it. We can’t have Disdain for you, because we Americans don’t think of you at all. Not as real creatures anyway.
“• USAID Staff Rush To Shred And Burn Documents (RT)
I’m lost: doesn’t Rubio already run this? Great headlines, though. Nothing says “Innocents, persecuted” like scrambling to shred everything.
“it turned out that all we really needed was a new president.” This is a complete reversal of Biden’s open-borders disaster”
Not really. Almost no one’s left yet. Because doing that is pretty hard and costs money.
“• Moscow Reproaches Western Media For Silence Over Gonzalo Lira’s Death (RT)
I hear Russia is extraditing Scott Ritter and Tusli Gabbard for premeditated murder. They flew over and did him in the Study with the Candlestick. On Elon’s private jet.
March 12, 2025 at 12:40 pm #184030WES
ParticipantTCS – Trump Confusion Syndrome :
Wall Street’s financialization of everything world looks like it Is suffering from a bad case of TCS!
So it is being introduced to short term pain, for long term gain reality.
Naturally the market doesn’t like this one bit and was staging a pullback to get it’s way with Trump.
Trump just threw some sand in their faces, by saying he isn’t paying any attention to the market’s tandem.Even gold looks confused by Trump’s actions.
Trump knows what he wants to do.
He will try to kill or tame the inflation monster that has hurt ordinary people.
The Globalist inflation monster Biden delibrately released on the very first day of his presidency.Trump needs to tackle the debt’s huge interest expense by lowering interest rates.
So Financial assets need to see some deflation in their prices.
Gold has been returning stateside to shore up US bank balance sheets.
The pain part to change the inflation mindsets, like in 1981.
Gold will measure Trump’s success in this battle, just like it did in 1981.It won’t be a linear battle.
The battle will ebb back and forth.
Everything will be as clear as mud!March 12, 2025 at 1:04 pm #184031kultsommer
ParticipantJustin in time X-reality check by Stew Peters above, that some are, sadly, aware of all along.
Thomas Massie.
What a great name for a President.March 12, 2025 at 1:10 pm #184032kultsommer
ParticipantWhy Epstein documents only?
What about videos?
I mean, Alan Dershowitz in shorts and poor girl throwing up at the site what she’s looking at.March 12, 2025 at 1:34 pm #184033Michael Reid
ParticipantForeign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s interview to the US bloggers
Mario Nawfal, Larry C.Johnson and Andrew Napolitano,
Moscow, March 12, 2025March 12, 2025 at 1:36 pm #184034kultsommer
ParticipantThis is what Wall Street and the corporations did to America. Is it Trump’s role to protect these American adversaries by blaming China?
That’s an easy job for Trump, since half of America blames Commies for doing that and, see, there is an “obvious connection” to CP of China.
It is Wall Street and the greedy self-serving corporate executives and boards who received huge renumeration for offshoring the jobs of the working class.
Your face can go blue repeating that. It doesn’t matter.
March 12, 2025 at 2:24 pm #184035jb-hb
ParticipantGee, we only discovered like a trillion dollars a year going to Commies illegally, so people a bit upset by commies must be fools, absolute fools!
And all those trust fund babies who grew up, went to college, were browbeaten that socialism is the very bestest, and then used all their various positions they got slotted into accordingly, that means they are capitalists — while they do all they do from a collective, corporative structure, top-down.
WEF – Globalists
We now know for a fact Globalist = Internationalist
Just like we know Wokeist = Communist
Wokeists = Globalists
Internationalist Communists. Spewing the exact same message from top-down and astroturf.
What a surprise, they’re all marxists!!! Whoda thunk. All the academic marxism from the 70’s, 80’s, 90’s from marxist sociologist professors who hate you and want you to die — all pushed into the mainstream by billions – nay, TRILLIONS of dollars of government spending and “leveraging” using control of corporations.
Corporations ending up blaring brand-destructive talking points from marxist academia and marxists online, who presumably should be able to recognize it when they hear it say “onoz, you blind people, it’s the Wall Streetz”
Stick in spoke. Shake fist at sky. Damn you capitalism. The answer is more socialism amirite?
March 12, 2025 at 2:33 pm #184036Raúl Ilargi Meijer
KeymasterHaven’t watched/listened to the Lavrov/US bloggers video yet, but the first thing I think is ‘he gets it’. He knows that is where media have moved. It’s not NBC, it’s X. His schedule is insane, but he makes the time. Try that with any of the EU ‘leaders’. For them, Nap and Larry are threats they must stay away from. Imagine Macron, Ursula or Kallas sitting in Lavrov’s chair. “Ask me whatever you want”.
March 12, 2025 at 2:44 pm #184037poppie
ParticipantJust a rehash of what many here have said in past. Shredding and burning has a limited impact. All of the paper is a print out of something on a computer. The computers have backups. The backups are designed to make access non-anonymous. Even the paper is multiple copies. The only real benefit is that its not found “on your desk”. And as you go higher in classification, paper is discouraged then prohibited. Pencils are confiscated. Your pockets are confirmed to be empty. You work on line with a guard watching a few people in a mini panopticon. At least thats the rumors I hear.
March 12, 2025 at 2:50 pm #184038zerosum
ParticipantYou and TAE are part of the “influencer” that are trying to fix/righten/stabilize our economic/social structures.
Peace
Reflect/reality check on these points of view.
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30 day cease fire.
But will Putin agree?All Ukraine troops must withdraw from Crimea and the four regions.
There must be a signed (not by Zelensky!) document that says Ukraine will not be part of NATO.
Only then can a truce maybe be considered.• 30-Day Truce: US Lifts Pause On Intel & Military Aid To Ukraine (ZH)
There’s as yet little incentive for him to enact a temporary ceasefire, given as Trump recently admitted… he has all the cards (and Zelensky doesn’t).
By all accounts the Russians are fast taking back territory in Kursk and advancing along front lines in the Donbas.
Likely Russia fears that Kiev could simply use this ceasefire as an opportunity to rearm, rest, resupply and regroup
– especially given Washington just said the US arms and intel pipeline is back on.
Moscow is likely to see this is simply a matter between Washington and Kiev, and it appears to be a version of Zelensky’s ‘partial ceasefire’ which demands a halt to all air assaults.“Trump should immediately remove all sanctions, not only against Russia but against every country.
This will boost the dollar’s role as the international medium of exchange, save the basis of American power, and reassure the Kremlin that the Cold War is indeed over.”• What Should Trump Do? (Paul Craig Roberts)
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The Europeans chasing a “mirage that no longer exists, stubbornly hiking ‘tax and spend’, whilst doubling down on mass immigration and overpriced energy, oblivious to the flashing red lights in the [financial markets] as government debt yields rocket to their highest levels since 1998”, as Allister Heath outlines.
In other words, the suggestion is that Friedrich Merz, Macron and Starmer are talking about how they are going to turn around their countries – via a massive infusion of debt – into defence superstates.
Yet, at some level of consciousness, they must realise that it is not doable, so they settle instead for presenting themselves as ‘world leaders on the international stage’.
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Tariff War.
Who will pay/collect the tariffs?
Who/where will the income go?
Who will gain/suffer win/lose?
Must meet/discuss a renewed USMCA relationship.
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If Musk and the DOGE boys can cut a trillion dollars of funny money out of 2025 spending, they’ll gut most of the inflation, too.
They might even get us under the 2% inflation that the Fed targets because the Powers That Be — the ones who politically benefit from spending money we don’t have — long ago decided that 2% annual inflation is good for us, actually.
But that’s a discussion for another day.https://x.com/AutismCapital/status/1899207851824066919?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1899254896081469715%7Ctwgr%5E3a452c11c136c2ffe32e56586d4fc966f791eb8a%7Ctwcon%5Es3_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theautomaticearth.com%2F2025%2F03%2Fdebt-rattle-march-12-2025%2F
ELON MUSK: “I’m just here trying to make government more efficient and eliminate waste and fraud. So far our savings at this point exceed $4B a day. Unless we’re stopped, we’ll get to a trillion dollars in savings.”
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DO NOT PAS GO. GO TO JAIL• USAID Staff Rush To Shred And Burn Documents (RT)
“Destruction of evidence is a crime,”The acting executive secretary of the US Agency for International Development (USAID), Erica Carr, has directed remaining staff to destroy sensitive documents stored at the agency’s former headquarters in Washington, DC, according to an internal email.
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“All of our “growth” for the last five years is due to unsustainable deficits that will haunt generations of Americans yet to be born..”• Brace Yourselves: The Next Media BIG LIE Is About to Drop (Green)
Before I tell you about the legacy dinosaur media’s next BIG LIE, I need to show you how they’ll sell it.
It starts, as these things always do, with the Left attempting to control the language to alter your perceptions about how the economy performed under Presidentish Joe Biden and will perform under President Donald Trump.
We might be done with Biden but he isn’t done with us, as you’re about to see.
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What motivates you. What you think. What you see. is being manipulated.March 12, 2025 at 2:53 pm #184039zerosum
ParticipantThe Bank of Canada has cut its overnight lending rate by 25 basis points to 2.75 per cent, it announced on Wednesday, as an ongoing trade war with the U.S. begins to strain the Canadian economy.
March 12, 2025 at 2:59 pm #184040Germ
ParticipantThe judges were Satan, Hitler and Stalin …
Pfizer – “Proud to be named one of the World’s Most Ethical Companies for the 4th year running.”
Total Clown World!
https://x.com/pfizer/status/1899490576770171033
TVASSF – still are.
March 12, 2025 at 3:06 pm #184041kultsommer
ParticipantKagu birds.
Many traditional dances throughout the World have elements of that posture while neither side is a “plagiarist”.March 12, 2025 at 3:12 pm #184042kultsommer
ParticipantThe same goes with the wid cats and the “territorial dispute”.
March 12, 2025 at 3:13 pm #184043jb-hb
ParticipantMarxist definition of Pragmatism™ — anything at all that advances Marxism. (anything that doesn’t is superflous or “counter-productive” therefore)
This is EXACTLY LIKE RELIGION.
It makes people into nasty, miserable shits.
Take Medieval Catholicism. Normally, humans, even humans from cultures totally alien to each other, might STILL be able to come to agreements by swearing on the thing they find most sacred. You’re alien, you’re hostile, I don’t like you, you’ve done things I don’t like. HOW can I come to any agreement with you if I cannot trust you? Oh I know, I’ll swear to God. I’ll swear on the Bible.
But maybe you’re fighting infidels. Maybe your’e fighting heretics. Or maybe you just didn’t intend to ever be honest and you like using trickery. How do you get out of the bind of the thing you hold sacred? You don’t want to be FORESWORN, you know. You shouldn’t WANT to be foresworn if you are in any way an ok human being, but even if you aren’t, you don’t want to go to hell, do you?
But the Pope just says yeah, you can break your word anytime, you can break your oath to god anytime. Go right ahead. It’s for the cause — it is Pragmatic™
So miserable shits go around oath-taking and betraying until nobody trusts nor remotely respects your religion.
Do you feel NO embarrassment at the similarity?
Democrats – taken over by Socialists.
Socialists, after the fall of the USSR, didn’t say hey, we killed 23x as many as Hitler, we enslaved tens of millions – the biggest slavery operation ever – we terrified millions into running away from us – wait, all those walls and machine guns were to keep people IN, from fleeing us! COULD WE PERHAPS HAVE BEEN WRONG? Should we come up with new, better ideas?
But the conclusions in the wake of abject failure were “We were not ruthless enough. We were not underhanded enough. We did not destroy enough things, we did not do it insidiously nor deeply nor insistently enough. And we need to invent more double and triple meanings for words so we can get REALLY dishonest.”
“Democrats” meatsuited, now socialists, with current year Marxism as their creed (check with 70’s-90’s academic marxism and just read what they say, it’s what “Democrats” say now) got defeated in 2016 and 2024 — but WILL NOT say “Do we maybe have bad ideas? Do we need to consider what we did wrong, what we believe wrong?” Nope nope nope.
Just coincidentally, a “Democrat” party taken over by Socialists acts just like Socialists in the face of failure! That must be totally random, bro! GOT to be! xyz thing wasn’t really tried, I am guessing.
You miserable shits. PUT DOWN YOUR WEAPONS and rejoin civil society. TRY being decent humans, you might even like it. TRY actual new ideas. No, thinking of new ways to be killjoy miserable shits is NOT new thinking. NO, your current 1866 thinking is not new thinking.
March 12, 2025 at 3:22 pm #184044Dr. D
ParticipantWell you’re not wrong there, Americans still think Russia is communist, and they’re not even called the “CCP”. So they’ll totally believe it’s China’s fault. …But we clearly have a lot of ire for Wall St and our own corporations. That’s why we’re going to nationalize and collectivize them, so we won’t be like China! (Not kidding, as there is nothing resembling rational thought here. The others all have false definitions, where Socialism = Capitalism; Democracy = Repression)
So my bet blame China about 50:50. If our corporations scrub and reform themselves, who know how little they can take blame, depends on what they do. When they shouldn’t, since they sold us and destroyed the country for 30 years, sending us to the brink of ruin.
March 12, 2025 at 3:47 pm #184045jb-hb
ParticipantI often wonder why Socialists don’t just pool some money – plenty of socialist trust fund babies with money – and get 40 acres somewhere, do socialist things, show how awesome socialism is, how great it works, how wonderful and likeable socialists are, and just watch everyone joyfully join you in your success.
Instead, all your efforts go towards fighting for access to capitalism and capitalists.
But then, Socialists had the biggest resource-laden country in the world – plus a lot else going for them. And created an abject failure. WHY?
The most common explanation I see online from Socialists, for their collapse, was because of sabotage.
…so you lifted the Nationalist Socialist explanation for Germany’s WW1 collapse and, essentially without even any real modification, bolted it onto your own Inter-Nationalist Socialism?
Stabbed in the back.
Are you not embarrassed yet? Seriously.
March 12, 2025 at 3:51 pm #184046my parents said know
ParticipantPeople who don’t like government don’t like to get into government, leaving the people who love government to run things.
So when those who love government meet someone who doesn’t, they gang up on him when he says “I’m going to get rid of your job.” Surprise!March 12, 2025 at 3:59 pm #184047my parents said know
Participant“Instead, all your efforts go towards fighting for access to capitalism and capitalists.”
And now we see how much they really really really love access to and accumulation of capital.March 12, 2025 at 4:31 pm #184048kultsommer
ParticipantIn that Pfizer X-chest-thumping:
“Breakthroughs that change patients’ lives”.
No doubt!March 12, 2025 at 5:00 pm #184049kultsommer
ParticipantAll cut-and-paste direct text lines by the socialist Paul Craig Roberts.
Level of madness is out of control.
March 12, 2025 at 5:02 pm #184050those darned kids
Participanton today’s pages:
trump = 119
zelensky = 15
doge = 15
israel = 12
peace = 12
war = 17
europe = 48
secretary of hhs rescinding prep act liability protection for covid13 rat poison = 0March 12, 2025 at 5:17 pm #184051my parents said know
ParticipantI’m halfway through Spartacus and Claude, and I keep wondering “what happened to ethical behavior?”
Why would people work on this?
When the list of awful things that could happen in the future are rattled off (Claude speaks in bullet points), it sure seems like many of them are going on right now.March 12, 2025 at 5:26 pm #184052poppie
ParticipantI followed the art link for Ensor. That was very interesting.
March 12, 2025 at 5:47 pm #184053John Day
ParticipantDiddy Rape Accuser Alleges Coverup Involving Maui Police Chief Linked To Las Vegas Shooting https://www.zerohedge.com/political/diddy-rape-accuser-alleges-coverup-involving-maui-police-chief-linked-las-vegas-shooting
March 12, 2025 at 6:14 pm #184059zerosum
ParticipantFace the truth!
Canada has budget deficits. Canada needs more income to balance their budget/spending.
How can Canada get more money/taxes from you?reciprocal tariffs Cheer, clap,clap,clap
Canada tariffs news: Trump’s levies arrive, Ottawa responds
CTV News
https://www.ctvnews.ca › world › trumps-tariffs › article
Canada, following a dollar-for-dollar approach, is levelling retaliatory reciprocal tariffs on the United States, worth $29.8 billion.March 12, 2025 at 6:29 pm #184060jb-hb
ParticipantThe “Ukraine agrees to ceasefire” reminds me of when Axl Rose was still working on the new GnR album (Chinese Democracy) with Buckethead as his main guitarist.
Buckethead went awol, just abandoned the project without warning, not answering any calls etc.
Months later, decided he wanted to work on the GnR album after all, started talking to people at parties about how excited he was to be working on it, having conversations with industry professionals about it – STILL no call with Axl, still no scheduled studio time.
March 12, 2025 at 8:23 pm #184062Dr D Rich
ParticipantVon Hofmeister said to be writing with “poetic aplomb”. The next thing theyll say is JD Vance bloviates with poetic statesmanship. Wait! D already thinks the latter.
“Clausewitzian sense”…..oh my f*cking god. And the dude gets paid for this by the gram.
Here it is, poetic aplomb. Christ, even the hagiographers are waxing psychopathic these days. Destabilizing behavior will do that.
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The logic of necropolitics, as theorized by the Cameroonian historian Achille Mbembe (b. 1957), is laid bare in the choreography of these negotiations. It is not just about war but about the management of death itself, the strategic control of who is allowed to live and who is left to perish. For Ukraine, existence is contingent upon its usefulness to larger powers, a pawn whose suffering is not a tragedy but a calculated necessity. The withholding of arms, the rationing of intelligence, the offering of a ceasefire not as salvation but as a way to prolong a limbo state between survival and destruction — this is necropolitics in action. The U.S. does not need Ukraine to win. It only needs Ukraine not to die too quickly. The real horror is that the decision-makers have already accepted Ukraine’s eventual demise. What is being negotiated is the tempo of its death. This is not war in the Clausewitzian sense of two sovereign actors vying for victory.
March 12, 2025 at 8:25 pm #184063Dr D Rich
Participant“limbo state between survival and destruction”
and never will the author dwell there, dwell as in live there, but he writes about it.
March 12, 2025 at 8:28 pm #184064Dora
ParticipantFlu shots.
March 12, 2025 at 10:47 pm #184067John Day
ParticipantTentative Disagreements https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/tentative-disagreements
I will hazard some thoughts about the peace deal being worked out between Russia and Ukraine/USA, which Steve Witkoff has been traveling to Moscow before negotiations, to facilitate. He was in Moscow again before the US and Ukrainian teams, including him, met in Riyadh yesterday. Ukraine stepped down from the demand that Russia capitulate, and went into negotiations with the French/British position of a 30 day air and sea partial ceasefire, which would well-serve Ukrainian war efforts. During negotiations, which lasted 6-8 hours, with a US break in the middle, with happy body language of the American team going into the break, the Ukrainian team agreed to a complete 30 day ceasefire, and to giving up all lands that the Russian army now holds, and to begin substantive negotiations immediately.
This falls short of the Russian claim to the remnants of the four oblasts which are not completely taken yet, but are claimed as part of Russia. It seems to me that the withdrawal of troops from these areas, followed by a jointly supervised vote of residents, as to which country they would be part of, would serve all purposes, and nobody would lose face.
Russia has already said that the $300 billion in Russian assets, confiscated by western banking (mostly Europeans) could be used to reconstruct Ukraine directly. This weakens the positions of European banks, who really want to keep it. Russia is the logical and best source to rebuild Ukrainian infrastructure, and Russia has insisted that the rebuilding include the areas of former Ukraine which are now joined to Russia, also. The Russian funds would largely go to Russian industry, and to Ukrainian and Russian work teams in this scenario.
We shall see what gets worked out. European banks are going to get cut out of this deal. That’s for sure.Gilbert Doctorow, Further thoughts on the Ukraine cease fire
I must admit that there are likely aspects to the agreement reached in Jedda between Team Trump headed by Marco Rubio and the Ukrainian delegation which we simply do not know and, not knowing them it is truly difficult to make sense of what is happening.
Last evening I remarked that Rubio was clearly satisfied with what was agreed in Jedda. The immediate U.S. decision to restore Ukrainian access to U.S. intelligence and to restart deliveries of arms to Ukraine seemed to confirm this. Of course, this very decision makes the U.S. bid to play the role of honest broker all the more problematic. American assistance to Kiev in these matters makes it a co-belligerent and that normally excludes claims to be a neutral observer.
Why did it take 6 hours of negotiations to end up with what Western media said was the end result of the meeting in Jedda? … On reconsideration, I believe there must be more to what was agreed than was stated publicly.
The first hint is in the statement that was kept from view in most Western reporting: that during the cease fire there would be an immediate start to negotiations over a durable peace.
This by itself also would not make much sense as an incentive to bring in the Russians. We must assume that some discussions took place over what concessions the Ukrainians are prepared to make to arrive at a peace with Russia, and that these concessions represent a big step forward from all the nonsensical ‘peace plans’ put forward by Zelensky over the past couple of years, all of which amounted to Russian capitulation...
..The problem in Moscow now is that for Putin to agree to a cease fire after having repeatedly excluded this step without Ukrainian withdrawal from the 4 oblasts of Donbas-Novaya Rossiya that are now part of the Russian Federation would be very hard for him to explain to his own hardliners among Russian patriots…
..At the same time, the Kremlin is facing another dilemma. The massive Ukrainian drone attack on Russia, including more than 100 drones against residential targets in Moscow and the Moscow oblast which was made on the eve of the Jedda talks, enraged Russian elites and there were calls for an immediate attack on Kiev using the unstoppable Oreshnik hypersonic missiles. A motion to this effect was tabled in the State Duma. But if Russia does make such a revenge counter-attack, that will put in danger anything that may have been achieved at the negotiating table in Jedda yesterday. https://gilbertdoctorow.com/2025/03/12/further-thoughts-on-the-ukraine-cease-fire/Largest Ever Ukrainian Drone Attack On Moscow Kills Three Civilians, Injures 9 https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/largest-ever-ukrainian-drone-attack-moscow-kills-three-civilians-injures-9
Ukraine Has Agreed To Enter Truce Negotiations With Moscow: Rubio
Coming out of the Jeddah talks with the Ukrainian delegation, which lasted over eight hours, Secretary of State Marco Rubio has issued a statement hailing that Kiev has agreed to enter negotiations with Russia to end the war.
“Today, we’ve made an offer that the Ukrainians have accepted, which is to enter into a ceasefire and into immediate negotiations to end this conflict in a way that’s enduring and sustainable,” Rubio stated.
The 30-Day ceasefire aspect which was announced earlier appears designed to jump-start direct talks – with the intent that the guns would go silent to allow for talks to begin in earnest. It appears akin to a ‘freeze’ of the front lines of the conflict (something which Putin is likely to reject, seeing in in a possible ploy for Ukraine to rearm and regroup). https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-immediately-lifts-pause-intel-military-aid-ukraine-30-day-truce-plan-agreed-upon Text of Joint Statement by US & Ukraine, Several Parts of which are Likely to be Unacceptable to Russia: “Repatriation of forcibly transferred Ukrainian children”
Whether it was ignorance on the part of the US delegation or a deliberate provocation towards Russia remains to be seen, but the wording about the “return of forcibly transferred Ukrainian children” in the joint statement is likely to trigger head shaking in Russia at best, and anger at worst.
The stories of children allegedly forcibly abducted from Ukraine to Russia are a propaganda tale of the Biden administration. On February 14, 2023, a study titled ” Russia’s Systematic Program to Re-educate and Adopt Ukrainian Children ” was published in the United States. It accused Russia of maintaining a “network of camps and other facilities holding at least 6,000 children from Ukraine in Russian-occupied Crimea and Russia.” https://anti–spiegel-ru.translate.goog/2025/der-text-der-gemeinsamen-erklaerung-der-usa-und-der-ukraine-was-er-bedeutet-und-was-fuer-russland-warum-inakzeptabel-ist/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wappMarch 12, 2025 at 10:50 pm #184068John Day
Participant Zelensky went to Riyadh, but was not part of the negotiating team. He just repudiated the deal. It’s Ukraine’s fault again. Russia advances relentlessly. ‘Ukraine Will Not Recognize Any Territory Occupied By Russia’: Zelensky
The Kremlin says it is “studying” statements issued by the US and Ukrainian delegations following yesterday’s talks in Jeddah, and further describes Russian officials are waiting for a fuller briefing from the US on the proposal. The 30-day ceasefire plan calls for a halt to all the fighting on land, sea and in the air – which can be extended by mutual agreement, with a hoped-for path to a permanent truce based on negotiations in the interim. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/moscow-studying-30-day-truce-plan-while-making-steady-battlefield-gains-meantimeRecall that the US is moving 30,000 troops from Germany to Hungary. Ukraine Drone Attack Halts Hungarian Oil Flow from Russia
“Russian oil has stopped flowing to Hungary via the Druzhba pipeline. The reason is an attack by a Ukrainian drone on a measuring station.
Hungary regards the Ukrainian attack as an attack on its sovereignty.” — Hungarian Foreign Minister Szijjarto https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news-selections/world-news/ukraine-drone-attack-halts-hungarian-oil-flow-from-russiaCelia Farber, EU Discontent Spreads: Anti EU, Anti-NATO Protests In Paris: “Ursula, Give Back Our Money” “Zelensky, Give Back Our Money” https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/eu-discontent-spreads-anti-eu-anti
Martin Armstrong, Donald Tusk Prepares Poland for War
Prime Minister Donald Tusk is preparing a 500,000-troop army for Poland to protect against Russian aggression. “We will try to have a model ready by the end of the year so that every adult male in Poland is trained for war,” Tusk announced…
..“Every adult male” in the nation must undergo military training. Women, for now, are permitted to join on a voluntary basis but many EU nations are forcing women to undergo some form of training as well. Poland is one of the 11 EU nations that will place women in the frontline of fire...
..Poland is preparing for war. Leaders use the rhetoric of the past to claim that their nation could be invaded yet again and claimed by a foreign actor. The only actor who is stirring the pot is Zelensky, who, per instructions, has been encouraging his EU allies to fight Russia head-on. The majority of fighting-aged men in Poland DO NOT WANT WAR, nor do they deserve to die in these neocon war games. https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/europes-current-economy/donald-tusk-prepares-poland-for-war/ The Honest Sorcerer looks at the instability caused by usury, known forever, and again in evidence. Until Debt Tear Us Apart
Debt, the rise of oligarchs and the decline of capitalism https://thehonestsorcerer.substack.com/p/until-debt-tear-us-apartMarch 12, 2025 at 10:50 pm #184069John Day
Participant Dima at Military Summary has the afternoon update. Russia does not yet have documents about a ceasefire or peace proposal from the US , but is studying public comments, and will study the offer and listen to reports from the US team when they are provided.
Russian FM Lavrov has repeatedly stated that the main Russian goal is a comprehensive security framework for Russia and Europe, which recognizes and adequately addresses the security needs of all countries.
It seems that Russia may show a lot of public interest in moving to ceasefire and negotiations, but there will be many preliminary prerequisites to address and agree upon in a joint statement, such as Ukrainian war crimes against civilians, the children that Russia saved from Ukrainian slave and organ farms, and the ownership claims upon lands already occupied by Russia. This might take awhile. When will spring mud season start? Russia is advancing to fully retake Kursk.
Only A Few Kilometers Left, A Treacherous Ceasefire, Military Summary For 2025.03.12 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWsBzGDdrRE Israeli torture: Urinating on Palestinian prisoners, burying them alive and beating the sick
Freed Palestinian prisoners recount to MEE how Israeli jailers ‘treated them like animals’ and ‘brutally tortured’ some to death https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israeli-torture-urinating-palestinian-prisoners-burying-them-alive-and-beating-sickIsrael escalates violations of female Palestinian prisoners during Ramadan https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250311-israel-escalates-violations-of-female-palestinian-prisoners-during-ramadan/
Blocking aid from Egypt: Israeli troops remain in Philadelphi Corridor in breach of deal — Hamas
Hamas described Israel’s actions as a “blatant violation” of the ceasefire deal https://tass.com/world/1925239 Israel minister says expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza is a ‘realistic’ solution
Israeli Minister Idit Silman, a member of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud party, stated that the “only solution for the Gaza Strip is to remove its Palestinian population,” calling the idea “realistic.”
Speaking to Reshet Bet public radio, Environmental Protection Minister Silman asserted that Netanyahu’s government is committed to promoting Palestinian expulsion from Gaza. She further claimed that “God has sent us the US administration,” interpreting this as a signal that Israel should “inherit the land.” https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250311-israel-minister-says-expulsion-of-palestinians-from-gaza-is-a-realistic-solution/March 12, 2025 at 10:51 pm #184070John Day
Participant 9 in 10 People in Gaza Have No Safe Water Access After Israel’s Power Cut
Israel once again cut electricity to Gaza on Sunday, taking offline a desalination plant that provided water to 600,000. https://truthout.org/articles/9-in-10-people-in-gaza-have-no-safe-water-access-after-israels-power-cut/Israel’s halt to food and aid deliveries worsens Gaza conditions https://www.arabnews.com/node/2593163/middle-east
Bakeries go dark in Gaza as Israel cuts off fuel to 2.1 million people
As prices soar and essential goods disappear, famine conditions threaten to return to Gaza following Israel’s closure of the border and the suspension of the delivery of fuel and aid. https://mondoweiss.net/2025/03/bakeries-go-dark-in-gaza-as-israel-cuts-off-fuel-to-2-1-million-people/US fast-tracks $295m arms deal to Israel, bypassing congressional review https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250310-us-fast-tracks-295m-arms-deal-to-israel-bypassing-congressional-review/
Yemen rebels say will resume attacks on Israeli shipping over blocked Gaza aid https://www.arabnews.com/node/2593290/middle-east
March 12, 2025 at 10:51 pm #184071John Day
ParticipantIsraeli forces arrest 762 Palestinians in February, including 90 kids
According to a report, “the occupation army continued its arrest campaigns in the West Bank, reaching a total of 762 Palestinians in February, with the highest number recorded in Jenin and its refugee camp.” https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/israeli-forces-arrest-762-palestinians-in-february–includinWest Bank Bedouin community says Israeli settlers stole hundreds of sheep https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250311-west-bank-bedouin-community-says-israeli-settlers-stole-hundreds-of-sheep/
Illegal Israeli settlers attack Palestinian village in occupied West Bank, burn vehicles
Settler raid targets village of Umm Safa in Ramallah where several vehicles burnt https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/illegal-israeli-settlers-attack-palestinian-village-in-occupied-west-bank-burn-vehicles/3506079 Celia Farber, Syrian Population Protest In The Streets Against The Massacres Of Alawites And Christians; Evangelical Syrian Church Leader Interviewed, Some Media Blackouts, Some Coverage https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/syrian-population-protest-in-the
Utter desperation: Alawites ask Israel for protection amid ongoing clashes in Syria — media
Referring to Israelis as “sons of David” and “respected brothers,” the Alawites assured that they look forward to seeing them in Syria” https://tass.com/world/1925229March 12, 2025 at 10:52 pm #184072John Day
Participant Syria’s interim president signs deal with Kurdish-led SDF to merge forces
Deal aims to integrate SDF-controlled entities into Syrian state institutions
Deal does not set out details for how SDF will be merged
SDF sees deal as safeguard against potential U.S. withdrawal, analyst says https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/syria-reaches-deal-integrate-sdf-within-state-institutions-presidency-says-2025-03-10/ Iran holds consultations with Russia, China on its nuclear program — foreign minister
Abbas Araghchi reiterated that Tehran “will not negotiate under pressure or in a situation where it faces intimidation” https://tass.com/world/1925011 Trump picks anti-Israel Muslim mayor of Hamtramck, Michigan as ambassador to Kuwait
Ghalib, an immigrant from Yemen, became the city’s first Muslim mayor when he was elected in 2021….
Ghalib has been a vocal critic of Israel over its war in Gaza, and the Hamtramck City Council had passed a resolution to divest from Israel and to not support companies associated with the country….
After expressing frustration with the Biden and Harris administration, Ghalib said he believed Trump could help reach a ceasefire. https://jihadwatch.org/2025/03/trump-picks-anti-israel-muslim-mayor-of-hamtramck-michigan-as-ambassador-to-kuwait When speaking up for Palestine becomes a crime
The fight to free Mahmoud Khalil is not merely about preserving First Amendment rights, it is about whether we will allow our government to criminalize resistance to its complicity in human rights abuses and genocide. https://mondoweiss.net/2025/03/when-speaking-up-for-palestine-becomes-a-crime/‘Pro-Hamas’ Columbia Student’s Arrest First of ‘Continuous and Ongoing Effort,’ White House Official Says https://www.dailysignal.com/2025/03/11/pro-hamas-columbia-students-arrest-first-continuous-ongoing-effort-white-house-official-says/
March 12, 2025 at 10:53 pm #184073John Day
ParticipantGlenn Greenwald: Defunding Universities Over Speech is a Major 1A Violation https://scheerpost.com/2025/03/10/glenn-greenwald-defunding-universities-over-speech-is-a-major-1a-violation/
‘Weaponising anti-Semitism’? US Targets 60 universities with funding cuts amid campus crackdown https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250311-weaponising-anti-semitism-us-targets-60-universities-with-funding-cuts-amid-campus-crackdown/
Celia Farber, InfoWars Reporter Jamie White Shot And Killed In Texas, Was On Ukrainian/Zelensky Kill List https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/infowars-reporter-jamie-white-shot
Infowars Reporter Jamie White Shot and Killed Outside His Apartment by ‘Possible Car Burglars’ https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=64873
FBI Due to Release List of Seth Rich Files Monday https://consortiumnews.com/2025/03/09/fbi-due-to-release-list-of-seth-rich-files-monday/
March 12, 2025 at 10:53 pm #184074John Day
ParticipantYet again… FBI Redactions On Seth Rich Index Leave No Answers https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fbi-redactions-seth-rich-index-leave-no-answers
“Shred And Burn All Documents”: USAID Staff Ordered To Destroy Evidence On Tuesday https://www.zerohedge.com/political/shred-and-burn-all-documents-usaid-staff-ordered-destroy-evidence-tuesday
Meryl Nass MD on the “We checked; it’s ok” clause: HHS: Starting to close the loopholes that allow Big Food to put whatever they like into our comestibles, This is one crazy loophole and hopefully FDA gets this done expeditiously https://merylnass.substack.com/p/hhs-starting-to-close-the-loopholes
Utah Set to Become First State to Ban Water Fluoridation
Governor Spencer Cox confirms he will sign HB 81 in a landmark move to improve the water supply and protect public health. https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/utah-set-to-become-first-state-toKyle Young, 1,770 – The latest MMR vaccine death count from VAERS, Attn: RFK Jr – this is what radical transparency looks like https://secularheretic.substack.com/p/1770-the-latest-mmr-vaccine-death
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