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    Louis Anquetin Girl Reading a Newspaper 1890   • Kremlin Explains Its ‘Only Option’ In Ukraine (RT) • Doubts In Ukraine About Readiness To Mount
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle March 14 2023]

    #131186
    Germ
    Participant

    Just wait ’till folks find out what’s been injected into their bodies.

    mRNA Vaccine Contamination Much Worse Than Thought: Jabs “Up to 35%” DNA That Turns Human Cells into Long-Term Spike Protein Factories

    mRNA Vaccine Contamination Much Worse Than Thought: Jabs “Up to 35%” DNA That Turns Human Cells into Long-Term Spike Protein Factories

    TVASF

    #131187
    Germ
    Participant

    So many of the fittest and healthiest dropping like flies, nothing seen like it in history.

    MMA star Isaiah Abels, 21, suffers cardiac arrest in fight as octagon doctors save his life before he’s rushed to ICU

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/21631609/mma-isaiah-abels-cardiac-arrest/

    TVASF

    #131188
    Germ
    Participant

    Say your prayers.

    Pfizer is gonna get Pfucked!

    https://pharmafiles.substack.com/p/week-10-pfizer-is-gonna-get-pfucked

    TVASP

    #131189
    Germ
    Participant

    Once the masses find out what’s been done to them …

    Rapper Costa Titch tragically dies after collapsing on stage at music festival

    https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/celebrity-deaths/rapper-costa-titch-tragically-dies-after-collapsing-on-stage-at-music-festival/news-story/1316298e8d5245dd24b463bdd2f63172

    TVASF

    #131190
    Germ
    Participant

    Expect the smear campaign against UK MP Bridgen to increase.
    He has to be destroyed asap.

    BRITISH MP: USA BEHIND VIRUS AND SHOTS – CRIMINAL CASE IMMINENT

    “BRITISH MP Andrew Bridgen claims the US Department of Defense is behind Covid-19 and the ‘vaccines’ – and expects criminal proceedings to begin by the end of the month.”

    https://uncut.substack.com/p/british-mp-usa-behind-virus-and-shots

    TVASF

    #131191
    Germ
    Participant

    Just when the FAA has lowered criteria of annual pilot cardio checks.
    Nice …

    BA TRAGEDY Veteran British Airways pilot collapses and dies shortly before he was due to captain packed passenger jet

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/21681055/veteran-british-airways-pilot-dies/

    Not the first.
    Many more coming.

    ☠️☠️☠️

    TVASF

    #131192
    EoinW
    Participant

    I’m not going to pretend to understand the financial shenanigans ongoing. I did want to repeat something I read to see how credible it may be:

    SVB was a targeted hit. The assumption being that all financial institutions are in the same boat – they’re all in trouble due to rising interest rates. The only way to save any of them is with more QE, bail ins and lower rates. How does one get the Fed to change course? Create a crisis now.

    #131193
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “Biden Gives Go-Ahead To Giant Alaska Oil Project, ‘Green’s Furious”

    Every day now, just like Trump would have done. Maybe he intended Joe to be gone by now and has to get these pieces in place.

    P.S. Joe does this because “there’s no oil.” We all ran out and there is no other North Slope, right? There IS oil in Alaska, but there’s also NO oil and I have to have an electric car by 2025. Schrodinger’s Oil. Which is now Schrodinger’s everything, all the time. Otherwise known as: lying.

    Green models, wrong every day since 1960: “Greta Thunberg embarrassingly deleted a tweet from 2018 that was connected to an article predicting the extinction of humans by 2023 due to climate change.”

    https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/styles/teaser_desktop_2x/public/2023-03/greta.jpg?itok=x7LbdAsrWoe

    “Red Cross Giving Migrants “Maps And Guides” To Aid In Illegal Border Crossings

    So…accessory to a felony. One MILLION felonies. Attaching all their assets should fill that budget hole nicely.

    “Welsh Govt Says Statues Of “Old White Men” Should Be Removed, May Cause “Offense” To Britain’s Diverse Population”

    Translation: the very existence of White People is an affront to life. They must be erased, our Final Solution. That’s love and tolerance! Inclusion means everybody but you!

    “NATO will crumble.” Yay! That will make the U.S. collapse and return to her borders. Yay!

    “Kiev’s forces have been so “degraded” by a year of fighting against Russia that some Ukrainian officials doubt their ability to execute a planned spring offensive, the Washington Post has reported.”

    6-12 months behind reality. They ALREADY can’t wage a counterattack to elegantly retreat from Bakhmut. Even though they’re already there, dug in, and organized. They were expecting one and didn’t get a wet squib.

    “But other than 30,000 Poles, which other country is ready to send troops?”

    Sounds good for a weekend. Who will they have to fight next week?

    “During the coup d’état in February 2014, he was essentially ousted from office by force and, faced with a threat to his personal safety,”

    Arrested for defending himself and saving his life. This is the narcissist’s special. If you defend yourself, I’ll attack. Of course if you just stand there, I’ll attack too and blame you for being a weak-livered patsy not defending yourself. You deserved it. Ah, it’s good to be king!

    “Jan. 6 Attorney Alleges FBI Criminally Altered Evidence (ET) “

    Yes, but in their defense, they were just following generational FBI norms. They only did this because they’re the “FBI”.

    ““The unceremonious and uninhibited nature of Miller’s discussion of committing these serious crimes suggests an FBI culture of corruption and lawlessness” Yes, but only since before Hoover. Was Hoover not a clue to you?

    “stopped, and fully investigated,”

    By whom?

    “his attorney violated the Sixth Amendment, which prohibits invasion of the right to counsel”

    They already erased the 1,000 year attorney-client privilege, don’t you remember? Back with Trump and Cohen. But that was going on for decades, probably ever. Armstrong had them taping all meeting rooms in Rikers and that was old hat and normal practice 20 years ago.

    Eat your heart out Stalin, you got nothin’ on us.

    “If we don’t look out, something MIGHT happen. We might lose our civil rights or something.”

    “Joe Biden will go down as the Herbert Hoover (US President in 1929-1933) of the modern age. We will have a great depression far bigger and more powerful than that of 1929.”

    Cheeto can’t be sitting there when it all goes down. He’s making the DNC take the blame for the Uniparty, and they’re signing up!

    “bankruptcy of the 16th largest bank in the US,”

    They’ve been saying this is a “Small bank”. Look out for “small banks.” Now Morgan etc have a TRILLION dollar balance sheet, but as 20th bank, SIVB is clearly not “small”. …So why are they using this language? That is, LYING?

    the interest rate hikes that Mr. Powell spoke of so confidently only days ago just got stashed”

    I wouldn’t bet on it, and Howard isn’t an economist. Powell goes .25% and still hikes. He keeps saying and saying and saying no pause, no end, but since Greenspan, no one believes him. In Congress they asked, “do you worry about the national debt, the spiraling interest payments, etc?” He said no. Because that’s literally his job. He only has two mandates: low inflation and high employment. That’s the law. Bank failures? I’m sorry is that unclear? He has TWO mandates: running Congressional budgets is not one of them, the stock market isn’t one of them, Europe isn’t one of them and for sure he told Leguard Global Warming and ESG isn’t one of them. Do I stutter?

    He also hasn’t broken the stock market frenzy. At all. SURELY he is not done.

    “the Fed Funds rate should have been 300bips or so beyond that all the way back to 2020 — which would put Fed Funds at about 13% for the last three years.”

    Powell remains a THOUSAND bips behind the curve.

    Ugo Bardi has no access to Mussolini or his internal psychology, doesn’t understand anything about magic, yet like “Putin Telepathy” he can immediately decree Bonito as “Not possessed.” I mean, maybe he wasn’t, sure. But even people who are CLAIMED to be possessed and exorcised were impossible to tell from normal at the beginning. He can confidently claim that possession – and I guess the entire spirit world – doesn’t exist? Has no effect? He has a lot more confidence in his beliefs than I do. The evil IS in us, but wouldn’t it just be as easy as whispering in his ear?

    He also misses the very basis of evil in saying they’re “Not evil” but a mere “banality.” Evil isn’t hate, necessarily, Evil is merely the Absence of Love. The lack of connection, that is, Empathy. As Hell is the absence and removal of God, God’s Love. That’s it. “The Banality of Hell”. So TRUE EVIL is??? Yes, the mere absence of love in one’s self, that is, our all-one-God-faith connection to others and All. Bureaucracy, mediocrity, AI, IS the hell and demons he seeks. As if watching it twice in the 20th century weren’t enough to demonstrate the “mere” lack of Love is adequate.

    If he doesn’t know what evil is, or Hell, or what the creatures are who live there called Demons, how can he know if Bonito was like them, ruled by them or not? First read a book.

    “House Dems Use Hearing to Attack Both Free Speech and a Free Press (Turley) “

    I’d say, “Good, they’re reduced to this now” but really I’m not at all sure this is the end. They still have supreme confidence and a lot of followers who, like Italy’s Jew-killing people, agree wholeheartedly with more murders. Especially for Covid. If you THOUGHT a naughty word, I can take your job. And Lo! A little bird just told me you thought it. I KNEW IT!!!

    From Jb’s comment on the banality of narcissists, they did this in the hearings. Was it Wasserman who harangued all her speaking time getting Taibbi to reveal his sources? Then IMMEDIATELY said, in the next SENTENCE, “No I didn’t”. Then the Chairman read her quote. Then she said she didn’t, that’s not what the word “is” is.

    Similarly the Congressman from NY said, “Joe Biden never suppressed speech” so the Chairman read a direct quote, day after inauguration, of Joe requesting Twitter censor thousands. He then said it didn’t happen. Opinions are not “Legal” speech in his definition, so it’s not censorship, it’s “What we do.” This was to a CONGRESSMAN. That is, Robert Kennedy, expressing his personal opinion that Hank Aaron died of coincidence. “Some animals are more equal than others”? No. Like Ugo says of Bonito, there is only ME. I am the only ego in the Universe, God himself, and the arbiter of all words, all flags, and all reality. When I want your opinion I’ll beat it out of you.

    Booing Michael Moore – himself a deep blue Liberal. Yes. Goes to show this didn’t “change in 10 years” like Taibbi says, they’ve “always” been this way. Like just since they caved in totally after Mondale? (Going for big business and obeying banks and war with Clinton?) No. Who got us in the Vietnam war? Who stayed? (and who got us out?) Who bombed all Serbia and set up a drug trafficking base on top of their oil pipeline? Who voted overwhelmingly for Iraq? Got us into WWII after promising not to? They’ve been pro-war since always. I can say maybe once upon a time against their own base, but no. Did their base, the Unions, colleges, etc, make any noise after all these votes? No. Not so long as they could blame somebody else who voted exactly the same way. How does that work exactly? “Some votes for war are More Badder than others.” “It’s not war when I vote it.” Most recently seen by AOC and Talib.

    Is SVB the Big One? No. I don’t feel it. However, this is going to do that, which does this, which causes the next… So “Yes” as well? Maybe consider it a process that takes TIME. This was added by Luongo, in his long fascinating with games. Does SOMEONE end up with all the money at the end of Monopoly? Yes. Does someone take the King in Chess? Yes. But aren’t we a long way from there and need to play all the moves and strategy BEFORE then? You can’t focus on the King with the 3rd pawn moved.

    What we’re going to have now is a ROTATION. They didn’t have enough power and control before but now they do. Only when they have enough power will they say “It’s okay for something to happen now.” But that “Thing” is going to be the world’s biggest mess. There will be this system, EU systems, CBDC systems, corporate currencies, commodities, commodity-backed systems, each flying all over the place, everything, everywhere, all at once. So will you make money in Bitcoin? Yes, it just rose 20%. But it’s also likely to drop 50%. Then recover and go $200,000. Oil at NEGATIVE $40? We had that before and it wasn’t even a crisis. Day after day, month after month. For maybe three years or more?

    More wars like this one? EU falls with the Fed last to collapse but no one notices because too much going on, 5 more systems all rising in the same geographic areas with 3 of those collapsing?

    A real pain in the Arse. No wins for anyone. It begins now? It already began before.

    #131194
    Germ
    Participant

    And the UK vaxx deaths keep coming –

    MHRA stops publishing regular Covid vaccines Yellow Card reports

    “In the last four weeks reported there were another 776 reports, of which 75 per cent are deemed serious by the MHRA itself, and 23 more reports with ‘fatal outcomes’. That means death in plain English. ”

    MHRA stops publishing regular Covid vaccines Yellow Card reports (how very convenient)

    If there were just 2 deaths from a faulty kettle it would immediately be withdrawn from the market.

    ☠️☠️☠️

    TVASF

    #131195
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Zelensky wants to meet with Xi

    Some advice from Joe Tzu, the Tard of War

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    #131196
    Germ
    Participant

    Anybody care?
    Anybody?

    TVASF

    #131197
    Germ
    Participant

    In the UK there’s no way he’d get the heart transplant.

    Colorado Football Star Markus Martinez Massive Heart Failure Triggered by COVID-19 Vaccination According to Family Members

    https://www.trialsitenews.com/a/colorado-football-star-markus-martinez-massive-heart-failure-triggered-by-covid-19-vaccination-according-to-family-members-00677c1c

    ☠️☠️☠️

    TVASF

    #131198
    Germ
    Participant

    Cough medicines containing pholcodine withdrawn over safety fears

    “there is a very rare chance that some people could experience an allergic reaction”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-64951267

    Hahahahahaha!

    #131221
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    Re: graph of Share of global manufacturing value added

    Are we looking at a rigged statistical game or have my Pittsburgh Punjabi Overlords at 1.4+ billion a pop really not at all kept up with their sworn enemies (and Dr. D’s) from China?

    Say it isn’t so!

    #131222
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Galloway and Garland Nixon: After the collapse of the SVB bank is Zelensky the next to fall?

    #131223
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    20-something year old COVID vaxxed in boot camp and felt numbness/tingling in all extremities a few days later. Handsome brilliant kid was looking to “serve his country”.
    Goes to sick call and told “you’re a malingerer”.
    I’m pretty certain only malingerers enlist in the military. Maybe John Day can opine.

    A couple weeks later he refuses the second shot but under threat acquiesces.
    Within 2 hours he develops diplopia, ptosis, weakness in all extremities and vision loss. Goes to sick call again to be discharged and relabeled a malingerer. Unable to breath on his lone walk back to the barracks and awakens 9 days later in a local ICU with Guillain-Barré syndrome Miller Fisher variant.
    Except, his case isn’t “self-limited” and he’s a shell of the 21 yo he used to be with incomplete resolution.
    My fellow USNA alum and SecNav Carlos DelToro should be keel hauled for sticking to his guns. All those sick call providers and SES that’s senior enlisted supervisors should be subjected to pretrial confinement in lieu of court martial.

    #131224
    Oroboros
    Participant

    China warns, guardrails are coming off

    Alex and Alexander at the Duran

    #131225
    zerosum
    Participant

    A vast matrix of interconnected obligations/promises
    those who did it last time and now have done it again

    Attack !!!! …….. With what!!! ….. NO supplies, no money, no trained soldiers, ….

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    advanced mathematics …..

    leverage ……… no reserves ……… no bailout ………. inflation
    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=248301
    Sorry, No Empathy, No Bailouts And YES I MEAN IT
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    #131226
    zerosum
    Participant

    The Hokey Pokey musical styles and dance moves for politicians, bankers and liars.

    The Matt Taibbi and Michael Shellenberger hearing was unreal.

    • House Dems Use Hearing to Attack Both Free Speech and a Free Press (Turley)

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    “100 times greater than previously reported..” But Pfizer knew…

    • mRNA Vaccine Contamination Much Worse Than Thought (DS)

    #131227
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    “We were mistreated by dumb bureaucrats, not by the minions of evil deities..”

    There’s a difference?

    #131228

    Sending an unarmed soldier into battle seems like murder to me.

    #131229
    those darned kids
    Participant

    #131230
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    My supernatural powers of prophesy enable me to see into the future and foretell that a Great Theological Debate is about to occur.

    Actually, it’s not so much supernatural power as it is pragmatic intent, by which I mean to say that I know that a debate between the theists and the atheists around here is about to break out because if somebody else don’t start it pretty soon then I will.

    Time for the Overton Window to widen and scootch over a little bit more towards real reality.

    #131231
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Well, what if it’s that evil entities love inhabiting bureaucrats?

    I lost track of the number of times the same exact scenario repeated itself.

    An explanation is given on why something #%&s everything up for the customer, the company, and the organization. Specific, meaningful information is given, fischer price style, for 4 year olds, while going to painful extremes to avoid sounding condescending, on cause and effect, as well as helpful non-destructive alternative actions.

    The middle manager looks at your left ear while they talk, like a psycho, slightly defocused, and orders you to do the most obviously stupid, wasteful, destructive thing. Like, somehow they invariably pick THAT one, so it doesn’t seem they can be randomly or stupidly selecting something from ignorance. You might have the customer waiting on the line, you might be about to call them back. You explain that the action you’re being ordered to take will, IMMEDIATELY upon telling it to the customer, result in the customer demanding escalation which you will bring to THEM.

    They order you to go ahead and then disappear from their cubicle or office, sometimes the entire building, before you can come back to them.

    They already KNOW it’s insane, destructive of value, makes everyone miserable. They already KNOW the response that is coming. Can’t even be there to witness the result of their own orders.

    After hundreds of these episodes within a bureaucracy, to me it seems like some sort of compulsion, lust, something… to cause excruciating situations for human beings. And it isn’t as if the evil is less at higher levels. It’s just that this seethingly evil something is only in charge of 9 people or 50 people or 500 people. You could slot it in anywhere up the food chain and it would behave in the standardized manner.

    This isn’t the character of bureaucracies, mind you. I’ve had amazingly smart, decent, dutiful coworkers, supervisors, managers, and directors over the years. I’ve had skip-levels with multiple VPs of Customer Care and most of them were legitimately intelligent decent people (one in particular though, I recall radiating awfulness, seemed to belong in HR… that was the VP saying in trainings for the new algorithm tool they thought would tell everyone what to do “It’s AI! It’s AI!”

    But there’s a type of person that entrenches themselves – typically in middle management – they aren’t doing things out of stupidity because they KNOW what they are doing and they just keep doing it. I recognize Victoria Nuland in that one VP of Cust Care, in a manager we had in Tech Support, and a supervisor in charge of 8 people. The facial expressions, the way of speaking. It’s strange.

    Like Naomi Wolf, I’m about ready to throw up my hands and say okay Occam, you got me.

    #131232
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    @Dr. D

    Don’t neglect the vicious abuse heaped upon attorney Lynne Stewart on behalf of her client the Blind Sheik or for that matter the extrajudicial Presidential-directed executions of 8yo Nawar, 16yo Abdulrahman and their father Cleric Anwar al-Awlaki

    #131233
    Germ
    Participant

    @ Dr. D – Carlos DelToro doesn’t know it (yet), but World War 3 started in 2019, when China provided the digital codes for the mRNA death vaxx to Western pHarma.

    WW3 is unfolding NOW at the biochemical/vascular level.

    Did the Chinese compel their entire military to inject this rat juice as did the US?
    No!
    Au contraire – they specifically dis-allowed its use on their own citizens.
    This mRNA gene transfection technology was outlawed in China.
    In fact, they allowed it into their country under the proviso that it could ONLY be used of foreigners living there.

    We are going to find out the meaning of The Long Game.

    Amyloidosis – the fuse has been lit!

    TVASF

    #131234
    jb-hb
    Participant

    …and by the way, Occam’s Razor would typically be on the atheist side of the argument.

    An additional overlapping layer of reality, a whole different invisible universe overlapping our own with its own rules and then rules for interaction with the reality we can actually perceive is a huge, HUGE complication.

    “Witchcraft,” for instance, has probably ALWAYS been with us, since prehistory. Not particular to Christianity.

    I suspect that for eons, it has been a safety feature, an exception to the rule. If you’ve got, say, a Malignant Narcissist in your midst and you’ve only got 70 people in your tribe, they can make EVERYTHING awful constantly with very awful, real-world results. All while riding the line of what they can get away with, always gaslighting and accusing/projecting, triangulating etc.

    So, super awful, destructive of the tribe, threatening its ability to survive, but they aren’t breaking any of the specific agreed rules. They aren’t literally stealing objects or hitting someone on the head with a club to commit murder. Yet they’re ruining everything. So… they are performing witchcraft! Bad juju, whatever you want to call it. You say witchcraft and you get it without having to reinvent the wheel or the DSM IV.

    What’s the most consistent model at this point? Rational amoral people who want to be in charge? Really? Aliens, transdimensional beings, demons, AI, an undiscovered plague that causes psychopathy, a super creepy secret religion? Why are the weirdest models working better as a working explanation? But you take the more rational models and find yourself making a million retrofit-excuses to maintain the model.

    I can still, as an Atheist, at least say, if I think in terms of Demons or what have you, hey, this is just a model. Just like models in science help predict, it doesn’t have to reflect reality, it just has to be the best available model, neither perfect nor literally reflecting reality.

    …………….

    As for “Is this the big one? Is this (finally) the foretold financial collapse?”

    I remember the last one. My takeaway was that there is so much going on offstage, that what is ON stage, viewable to us, isn’t necessarily relevant to decision-making.

    Considering they – “they” – have been increasingly destroying infrastructure, distribution, food production, energy production, all institutions, culture, and promoting widespread intake of poison as if they were trying to meet an approaching deadline…. I’d tend to say on THAT basis, rather than any financial analysis, sure, this is likely to be The Big One. Sure, why not. (Obviously, do your own research and due diligence and make sure not to do anything stupid…)

    #131235
    Oroboros
    Participant

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    #131236
    John Day
    Participant

    Shelter Inflation Hits Record High As Americans’ Real Wages Drop For 32nd Straight Month
    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/cpi-slows-expected-americans-real-wages-drop-32nd-straight-month

    #131237
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    @jb-hb

    I think your hitting on something pretty close to the truth.
    However I think it’s a matter akin to something like accumulation, distillation or concentration.
    Where the people you described were are chosen, selected or selected for at some point or under a certain condition display the malignant traits you elucidated.
    Cluster Bs all can look absolutely psychotic, detached from reality at any moment especially under the stress of leadership.

    #131238
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @ DBS


    I know that a debate between the theists and the atheists around here is about to break out because
    if somebody else don’t start it pretty soon then I will.

    theists and atheists (both extremes on a continuum and not rational positions)

    Perhaps it would be more correct to state we do not know and are unlikely to ever know.

    More important is the organization and execution of life in a sustainable maximally beneficial manner

    #131239
    Red
    Participant

    This just in on RT news, there was a US reaper drone taken down by Russian jets over the Black Sea. That’s all they said for now awaiting more info. Things are starting to heat up as if it wasn’t warm enough already.

    #131240
    Oroboros
    Participant

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    #131241
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    What was that Gandhi said? “First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, and then you win.”

    The God vs Anti-God War has followed much the same track, and the tactic that gets played most annoyingly is the ridicule gambit. It begins with the unsolicited portrayal of two dimensional cartoon character-like figures of God and Devil (Angels and Demons) as absolutely ridiculous and shallow stereotypes out of a child’s book of bed-time stories.

    The entire intent is that those adulterated concepts be rejected as patently ridiculous, which is frequently what happens. Those who are tricked by the “Straw Man” illogic into disbelieving the existence of God are lauded as bright and logical, and those who don’t buy into the trick (by continuing to simply KNOW that the Creator of the Universe is a divine non-physical entity) . . . . well those sane ones are portrayed as suckers for ridiculous child’s stories.

    The unfortunately gullible few who fall for the gaslighting and consequently reject the most fundamental of all truths (that the Universe is the product of a consciously aware non-material source) rapidly diverge from the sane folks who know that that is precisely where it came from. It is not only true that material emerged from the non-material, but it can be relatively easily proved to as many levels of Sigma probability as you’ve got time to write out the very large number.

    Those who seek the answer in material science are destined to wind up in the neighborhood of where we are now: materially capable of video-taping the nuking of a planet from space by AI robots, and spiritually unable to stop themselves from doing it or even understanding how they got into such an untenable spot in the first place.

    So which direction should you turn to escape the noose that you’re tightening around your own neck. To the spirit-denying money, AI, math and other materialistic arts and sciences that got us into this mess, or perhaps toward an increased awareness of the spiritual nature of the spot you find yourselves in, how you got there and if there is a way out?

    If you have even the slightest discomfort with the notion that the ENTIRE universe and everything in it derived from the singular consciously aware divinity, then you dear neighbor have been gaslit by folks who would rather that you did not know that. And I’m pretty sure it’s because because they have a vested interest in you thinking and behaving otherwise. No “cartoon” demons necessary, but like I asked earlier: “There’s a difference?”

    #131242
    Oroboros
    Participant

    The Madness of King Joe and Dr Jill

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    Joe and Jill went up the hill
    To fetch a pail of money
    Joe fell down and broke his crown,
    and Jill came tumbling after.

    As a member of the ‘ruling elite, Creepy Joe has other plans

    .

    #131243
    John Day
    Participant

    This is the hard to find story about the crash, right after takeoff from Clinton Airport in Arkansas, of the plane carrying a chemical research team to Ohio. It has a lot of extra editorial information which could be edited, but it looks like the plane exploded one minute after take-off.
    https://rense.com/general97/arkansas-plane-crash-linked-to-ohio-trains-chem-weapons-for-ukraine.php

    Just prior to noon on Wednesday, February 22, toxic site inspectors Micah Kendrick, Kyle Bennett, Gunter Beaty, and Glenmarkus Walker boarded the CTEH-owned twin-engine Beech BE20 (a 9-passenger business version of a Beechcraft 200 Super King Air) at the Bill and Hillary Clinton National Airport in Little Rock, Arkansas. Earlier predictions of light rainfall had not materialized and winds from the southwest were subsiding to below 40 mph. On takeoff from Runway 18, which is reserved for small aircraft, pilot Sean Sweeney planned to keep the plane climbing toward the south, into the wind, with the aim of circling leftward over the Arkansas River onto a northeasterly flight path toward Ohio with the added advantage of a tailwind. All systems were go, there was no cause for concern at takeoff.

    After clearing the runway, at the start of ascent along a straight line and immediately after crossing the Highway 40 bypass (which connects I-40 with I-30), less than a mile from takeoff, the BE20 was suddenly blown to bits by a powerful explosion. The fragmenting plane nose-dived toward the rear of the 3M industrial complex, crashing through the roof of a large warehouse with truck-loading docks. A pillar of black smoke from burning aircraft fuel rose into the gray sky, and was caught on video by a nearby weather helicopter. The steep fast dive allowed no time for a bail-out by the passengers or pilot, who were likely killed in the powerful blast and within a few seconds after crushed on impact. Phone calls to 911 went unanswered over the next hour.

    Meanwhile, as an emergency crew closed off the 3M grounds and hosed the flames, another team from an as-yet identified agency set up a fake crash-site farther south in a junkyard, hauling pieces of wreckage to that decoy site for reporters to snapshot.

    #131244
    John Day
    Participant

    @DBS: Beings which can only perceive 4 dimensions, space and time, disagree on chicken-egg conundrum of universal origin, and the nature of consciousness.

    Hey, it’s inevitable… Can we know what is, when we are not individually sure of what we are?
    If some of do feel like we know ourselves, can it be convincing in a debate with those who do not?

    What about the agnostics who just don’t want to argue about it, and agree with the majority, whatever that is?

    Barking-up-barkless-tree-in-Scroedinger’s-forest

    #131245

    This just in on RT news, there was a US reaper drone taken down by Russian jets over the Black Sea. That’s all they said for now awaiting more info. Things are starting to heat up as if it wasn’t warm enough already.

    Drone d(r)owning.

    #131246
    Red
    Participant

    So far:

    There is chaos in the Black Sea after a Russian fighter jet flew in front of a US drone and damaged it, forcing the operators to shoot it down in the water.

    According to cnn.com the Reaper drone and two SU-27 Flanker jets were operating over international waters over the Black Sea when one of the Russian jets deliberately flew ahead and dropped fuel in front of the drone, according to a US official.

    One of the jets then damaged the Reaper’s propeller, which is mounted on the back of the drone, the official said. Propeller damage forced the US to shoot down the Reaper in international waters in the Black Sea.

    Russian and US aircraft have operated over the Black Sea during the war, but this is the first known such interaction, a potentially dangerous escalation at a critical moment in the fighting.

    A Russian fighter jet shot down an American drone in the Black Sea

    …and…
    Moscow: American MQ-9 Reaper drone flying over the Black Sea has crashed due to Russian fighter aircraft. America has called it an act of provocation. After this incident, the fear of America’s entry in the Russia-Ukraine war is being expressed. This is the first time since the start of the Ukraine war that there has been a direct military confrontation between Russia and the US. A US official has confirmed that a Russian jet damaged the propeller of an American MQ-9 Reaper drone flying over the Black Sea on Tuesday, causing it to crash. The US has claimed that the Reaper drone was shot down by two Su-27 fighter jets of the Russian Air Force over international waters over the Black Sea. During this a jet flew in front of the Reaper and dumped fuel on it.

    America told the whole incident
    The US official said that this damaged the propeller on the back of the MQ-9 Reaper drone. Due to this incident, the American drone fell into the sea itself. The US Air Force has issued a statement accusing the Russian fighter jets of reckless flying, environmental misconduct and unprofessional activity. After this incident, the planes of the US Air Force and Navy have been alerted. America has not told whether the debris of the drone has been recovered or not.

    Russian fighter plane shot down American MQ-9 Reaper drone! Know what happened in the Black Sea?

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