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    Alessandro Allori Self portrait c1555   • John Durham: FBI Had No Verified Intel When It Opened Probe On Trump (JTN) • IRS Abruptly Removes Inves
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle May 16 2023]

    #135265
    Red
    Participant

    What ever happened to:
    Sticks and stones may brake my bones, but names will never hurt me. ?

    As for prosperity:
    #256: A path of logic

    A path of logic? Ha ha ha we’re so f^%*ed!

    #135266
    Dr. D
    Participant

    WHO Pushes “Early Childhood Masturbation” For Toddlers, Encourages Questions About Gender Identity For Kids Aged 4

    What can you add to that?

    John Durham: FBI Had No Verified Intel When It Opened Probe On Trump (JTN) (nor after)

    Cant believe they’re still talking about 2016 and doing nothing.

    However: about timing yesterday and what’s happening and not. As Biden docs come out, Durham docs come out, Judge suddenly (3 years later!) decides Georgia can actually LOOK at the case. Same time, 14 months later, Kari Lake gets similar forward in looking into her election. That’s the new standard: It takes 4 years to check if you won the election or not, at which time you’ve already served the term. Probably that’s not cynical enough; that’s still way too soon. Like all the JFK can other records: you can read them after everyone ever involved are dead.

    Same time, Florida does election integrity stuff…which may be a Trojan horse mandating Digital ID, etc. More fine print.

    Still Durham is the biggest nothing ever. Unless I was unclear on the mandate and he’s literally not allowed to take any actions and arrest any people. Then he’s by definition not a “Special Prosecutor”, emphasis on “Prosecute”. Because “no reasonable person who values his life would press charges against Hillary Clinton,” said Comey.

    “This should be a clarion call for legislative reform.” –Gaetz.

    You’re kidding right? Congressmen should repent and reform themselves? How’s that been working last 200 years?

    “We need to defund and deauthorize government entities that are converted from just[ice]

    Now you’re talking. CONGRESS runs the country, in case you forgot. Remove funding for all Joe Biden’s agency and anyone they ever talked to. Just like during government shutdowns, defund the whole thing and no one even notices. Devolution.

    At the very least, are you going to keep funding people who wiretap the AP, seek and make whistleblowers disappear, jail them openly, wiretap Congressmen, and throw Federal elections? That’s no good even if you’re a Congressman. To say nothing of U.S. Army Anthrax showing up to naughty Congressmen, a number of small planes that disappeared on 9-12 votes, and Whitey Bulger being the FBI-protected cleanup crew in New England express hit man for Mueller as FBI director. If you, as elected Congressman wish to live long enough to serve your term, and out of jail, defund these guys.

    Now: the only answer is Devolution. And that can only happen if the money-power breaks. But the money-power is presently based on confidence. Isn’t that what they’re attacking? Faith in the Federal Government and system? So are they winning, or not?

    [IRS] constituted retaliation but could also be construed as an obstruction of a congressional inquiry.”

    But let me guess: you’re going to do nothing about it.

    61 Hacks who all worked in perfect alignment: There’s no definition of “Conspiracy”, all you Conspiracy Theorists. The entire Federal Government suddenly gets the lead out and accomplishes tasks within days with every member in alignment all the time.

    ““..they were instructed to pursue Jan. 6 investigations over child sex crime cases, because they were ‘no longer a priority.’”

    And this is provable. Like Musk erasing 100,000 child-sex accounts. Let me guess: you’re going to do nothing about it.

    “Trump versus RFK, Jr. would bring the people of this country together and refocus the nation’s attention on things that matter. It would also be the Baby Boomer’s last stand.”

    What I said: let’s flip the script and force them to pick between good and better.

    “Fortress Eastern Europe engaged in a war of attrition against Russia with the potential to last decades.”

    Yes. This is the West’s only option at the moment. Sure Ukr can’t take 300k losses a year, but Russia is too small to take 30k losses for 10+ years either, and why should they? They can nuke London and NY in 15 minutes.

    Musk Responds To Epstein Subpoena (ZH)”

    This is amazing, and why, and why does the judge allow it? Interesting. Remember Musk’s father is a pedophile (who married his daughter) Elon probably grew up with it, and has no tolerance for it, calling his father “A monster”. P.S. Trump was the same, his father sold him off to a gay Jewish millionaire when he was 17 for “Mentoring” if you know anything about the gay community. They were always trying to rub me up on that basis, with that language too. Oh-so innocent! Trust us! Not to fret– probably not that different than what women put up with, but point is these two characters and their predatory childhood, not this author’s life story. (P.S. Hemingway said the same thing and wrote about it, it’s not new, nor is being openly gay. They just LIE. Read a book on all the gay bars in NYC and London while ALSO there were no gay bars or gay people in NY and London through the same history. History a la carte. A = A but A ≠ A too. Whatever lie makes me a victim and gives me power, you sap and sucker.)

    Eden: That of course is the Christian-haters view of the universe, and it’s a good one. But why interpret it that way? The words are wide open to you. You could say that God had a system where you had CHOICE. However, being God, he knows what the various outcomes of the various choices are. So like a parent, he says, “don’t do this”. Not that – I – will punish you, but because YOU won’t like it. It leads to tough places. This is practically identical to the parent drug-talk. So they eat from it, and GOD kicks them out in his hatred for this trap. No. The fruit is the KNOWLEDGE of Good and Evil. You can’t Un-Know. GOD didn’t kick them out, the CONSEQUENCE of KNOWING is that the Garden disappears, it becomes inaccessible, although it is around us every day. …We can’t see it. We are IN the garden. God knew that beforehand, thus his recommendation. We didn’t know that, or not completely, but unless you want no free will – at all – then this has to be an option. So “God” didn’t do anything. Anymore than after you take that first drug, your Parents MADE you take more drugs. No. They didn’t. So knock it off.

    Anyway: Good News/Bad News. Good news is you’re still in the Garden. Bad news is, given enough time, probably someone would have eaten the Knowledge. Good news is, like the Prodigal Son, the one who goes through this, learns and accomplishes all is all the more loved and exulted at home when he becomes wise enough to return. Bad news: no one will like the journey. Still was it better for the universe for us to say at home? Singing “Holy” like boring angels? Or adventure and learn things even though it’s hard?

    Everyone says they want God and more choice. For him to leave them alone. So he does and you curse God and blame him. Sounds like a no-win. If you’re happy to have choice, and so much of it, without interference, if that’s what you’re most proud of, then shouldn’t you say Thank You?

    Macron. Well, they’re hanging pictures that are life-size. Exactly as tall and imposing as Macron is.

    MRNA: We don’t know what we’re eating. Yes, and take that literally: it could be fine, we don’t have any symptoms or processes. …But probably not. When has Science ever led anyone right, to life and health? “We owe a huge debt to Science…for curing all the problems that Science created.” — Jon Stewart.

    ““Under democracy, creditors begin to make loans and the debtors can’t pay and the creditors get more and more money, and they end up turning a democracy into an oligarchy, and then the oligarchy makes itself hereditary, and you have an aristocracy.”

    Or “I believe banks are more dangerous to the Republic than standing armies” (we have one of those too, illegally). The line there – no less true – is that it will require farmers to get into debt, that debt will ultimately be unpayable, so the bankers will reposess the farms…and do what? The bankers don’t know how to grow food, so everyone dies. Something like that, but more complicated and detailed. Right now anyone who makes or does stuff can’t get paid or financing, while all the people who don’t have all the money they want.

    “• A Disorderly Reset With Gold Revalued By Multiples (Egon von Greyerz)

    Sure this article isn’t from 2000? 25 years ago? Or 1994? Or 1979? That’s where timing is the same as being wrong. Generations of pensioners made this bet and died poor.

    ““American life expectancy during this period sharply declined by a staggering 2.5 years from 2019 through 2022..”

    Remember, since the Feds started getting really involved in 1994, the U.S. now has the highest medical cost on the planet – FAR higher than France or Switzerland, where you can get a nurse to visit your home – and nearly the LOWEST health outcomes in the developed world. Where’s my money, Brian? Where is it? #Helping.

    But that’s not the worst part: talk to any doctor, nurse, anyone in the system and they aren’t ashamed of themselves in the slightest. Look all offended if you point out that if you, or the larger society, take that test they recommend you will all be bankrupt and living in a box. “How DARE you???” And how’s living under a bridge for your health? Cost – to anyone – never crosses their minds. So give all the tests! Covers my -ss. I’m not paying…YOU are.

    But this is the certain and immediate consequence of removing ‘capitalism’. Now no market, no valuation, no cost-benefit, and therefore production, consumption, and ability to pay are all absolutely random and totally disconnected. All the things we DON’T need we have millions of, all the things we DO need – like cheap clinic care for working people – we have ZERO of. It’s a cast-iron guarantee. Capitalism is the worst possible system except for all the others. Socialism kills everyone given enough time, and here has already cut life 3 years in unending misery and has barely gotten started.

    “Climate Sceptics Target Scientists For Vicious Abuse On Musk’s Twitter (G.)

    I’m sorry: Scientists have never heard of “the Internet”? They alone are excluded from all the naughty things? They are too weak and stupid to defend themselves there? They can’t use words and are allergic to “debate”? What? It’s toxic and sucking too much time?

    THEN LOG OFF AND GO DO REAL WORK. Write a paper or something, clearly no one reads those. You want to be online, but also be Ms. Priscilla Popular Princess. No.

    Speaking of people who don’t know anything and die 3 years early, they may want to leave that Bull Moose alone.

    #135268
    Oroboros
    Participant

    #135270
    The Markster
    Participant

    Durham works for Joe Biden, who shuffles on and off screen in this fourth consecutive Obama Administration. Obama wants us to know the coup was successful. Funding jihadist mercenaries and US troops stealing oil in Syria while pushing racism hustling and partisan lawfare at home. Killing and injuring millions for DARPA and Big Pharma quarterly profits while throwing free speech, free assembly and 100 years of public health policy lessons out the window.

    Durham is saying nothing new here, the Democrats and their media won. They won and now they own the joint going on almost 14.5 years now. Does anybody really think the ridiculous circus of US politics, elections and media will allow real consequences, transparency and truth to emerge?

    Hail to King Obama. Hail to the forever wars. Hail Death and Mammon and all the pretty, shiny things you can buy at Walmart.

    #135271
    Oroboros
    Participant

    “We’re living the rise of American no-go zones right now…..it’s a sharia of the political left.”

    ~Raheem Kassam

    Empire of Lies® major cities are quickly becoming first world shithole shanty towns.(SSTs)

    They’re taking all the major city commercial real estate that’s been “made redundant” and abandoned by the Covid inspired ‘work from home on the web’ crowd movement and converting into Nouveau Warsaw Ghetto shanty towns

    That won’t stop the banking collapse from unoccupied commercial real estate but it will help to hide the poor folks from public view so they can take a crap OD in private off the streets where they are becoming a PR problem.

    The whole West coast collection of coastal cities are dying (Seattle, Portland, San Franshitsco) and will be the New Rust Belt of the Empire of Lies® in the coming decade. The west coast ports will no longer be wealthy as pacific trade terminals. They will be like the de-industrialized mid-west of the 1980’s

    Bon appetite

    #135272
    John Day
    Participant

    @Figmund Sreud, from yesterday: Martha Stewart, 80, has a really good facial-plastics surgeon, but I also assume a lot of AI post-processing in the digital images to make her skin look so young.

    @D Benton Smith from yesterday: That little vase is mathematically elegant, a riddle waiting thousands of years to be comprehended, and it is perfectly made from solid stone, inside and out, and it could not have been turned on a lathe with those “ears” where strings or loops would be inserted.
    It would be milled by a computer-controlled CNC machine these days, after being mathematically designed by computer.

    “Walk Like An Egyptian” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv6tuzHUuuk

    #135273
    Oroboros
    Participant

    KunstlerCast 377 — John Michael Greer on Magic and the Reenchantment of Daily Life
    Podcast May 14, 2023

    Very entertaining listen while I weeded the onion patch at the Doomstead ;>)

    What is consensus reality, is it a form of Magic?

    [audio src="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/traffic.libsyn.com/kunstlercast/KunstlerCast_377.mp3" /]

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    Jim’s Eyesore of the month

    Behold, the new Richard Gilder Center for Science — an addition to New York’s American Museum of Natural History, designed by Jeanne Gang, the most-published architect on The Eyesore of the Month!

    Just think of all the homeless you can fit into an urban Eyesore of the Month

    #135274
    Oroboros
    Participant

    #135275
    zerosum
    Participant

    H. Clinton Hate/leadership far reaching
    • Dirty Secrets (Jim Kunstler)

    Yesterday
    • John Durham: FBI Had No Verified Intel When It Opened Probe On Trump (JTN)

    Today
    the Durham Report
    check if this is true or not!
    out of sight out of mind
    an illusion
    • IRS Abruptly Removes Investigative Team From Hunter Biden Probe (Straub)

    Tomorrow
    You will have/need an AI version, a digital ID to exist
    ———–
    real or illusion
    What if A.I. doesn’t agree with you

    It is a corrupt warmongering Proxy of the US and the Western Globalist Elites
    • Ukraine Is Not A Symbol of Freedom & Liberal Democracy (Muir)
    ———–

    #135276
    John Day
    Participant

    I’m off and running, tangentially, but it is Dr D’s fault.

    The Ethical Skeptic has a new post up about The child-abuse qualities of major religions, The Blame-Based Model of Spirituality https://theethicalskeptic.com/2023/05/13/the-blame-based-model-of-spirituality/
    In it he has a link to an ancient Gnostic (Christian) text, buried in a clay pot for almost 2000 years, along with others, which has a different tale of the Garden of Eden, creation, the serpant, and so on.
    It’s here:
    The Nag Hammadi Library http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/hypostas.html
    The Hypostasis of the Archons
    (The Reality of the Rulers)
    I like Adam and Eve’s daughter, Norea. Righteous woman!

    #135277
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    What everyone seems to forget about debt based systems is that the entire concept of financial debt, its most fundamental aspect, the very ESSENCE of what it means, is the belief in a promise of repayment by someone, somehow, someday.

    When either the promise or the belief fails to materialize, then the system(s) it underpins is kaput.

    #135278
    zerosum
    Participant

    Mine or yours,
    real or illusion

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/05/ukraine-air-defense-lessons-.html#more
    Ukraine – Air Defense Lessons
    This is factual:

    Patriot Missiles Won’t Save Ukraine – National Interest – May 9, 2023

    Patriot systems are limited to pinpoint defense of major assets and are designed to operate in tandem with air defenses engaging targets at higher and lower altitudes. Without these additions, Patriot will have too many threats to engage and the result will either be porous coverage that doesn’t protect its defended assets, or coverage that quickly subsides when Patriot runs out of interceptors.
    Moreover, Patriot systems are themselves vulnerable. Operating a Patriot radar system gives away its location, making it an open target for Russian attacks. This means that Patriot is not a one-stop-shop for defending Ukraine’s military assets or its people.

    Those facts were proven last night.

    War Monitor @WarMonitors – 1:23 UTC · May 16, 2023
    ⚡️I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but after careful review of this video, it appears that the air defence battery (most likely patriot) tried to save itself, but failed. It most probably got toasted.
    Embedded video

    Those were expensive two minutes for the ‘West’:

    Fennec_Radar @RadarFennec – 1:45 UTC · May 16, 2023
    I counted 30 Patriot PAC-3 MSE launches here.
    The FY2024 costs of these per missile is about $$5,275,000
    That was $158,250,000 fired in about two minutes. And as we see, the battery or something else likely got blown up. So it failed in its mission.
    Embedded video

    This though is likely not true. Kinzhals are simply too fast to be hit by any of Ukraine’s air defenses:

    Defense of Ukraine @DefenceU – 6:40 UTC · May 16, 2023
    Last night, russian terrorists attacked Ukraine with:
    – 6 Kinzhal aeroballistic missiles
    – 9 Kalibr missiles
    – 3 ground-launched missiles
    – drones

    ALL TARGETS SHOT DOWN.
    Glory to the Ukrainian Air Forces!
    We are grateful to our partner states for strengthening our air defense capabilities.

    The casualty numbers in today’s clobber report by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation may be a bit exaggerated but the general operational facts are usually true:

    The Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation launched a combined attack with long-range precision-guided air- and sea-based weapons against the AFU units, as well as depots of ammunition, weapons and military equipment supplied by Western countries.
    The goal of the attack has been reached. All the assigned targets have been neutralised.

    U.S.-manufactured Patriot surface-to-air missile system has been struck by Kinnzhal hypersonic glide vehicle in Kiev.
    ————

    #135279
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    I think I may have understated what the consequences actually are when debt based systems lose the last vestiges of faith in the promise or expectation of repayment. The difficulty is in the description of “true zero” . It’s hard to describe “nothing at all at all” because the words used in the description are somethings that we can place our attention upon. In the present case I am trying to more fully convey what it means to say that value drops to zero. It means “gone, baby gone.”

    When such systems collapse and go away they tend to go away so thoroughly that no one even bothers to remember that they have no inclination to be bothered to even try to remembers that such systems ever existed, or would give a damn about it one way or the other.

    Case in point: the little predynastic Egyptian vase I referenced in yesterday’s comment about the actual implications of Earth’s actual history. It’s been really long, guys. And (at times) so advanced that the level of technology used to produce mere doo-dads and trinkets (like little predynastic “Egyptian” vases) was so advanced that our current level of technological is insufficient to even describe it, much less replicate it. Human civilization in the present day is comparable to the cargo cults strewn across Oceania.

    Long story short, I’m coming around to taking a bit of a longer range view of what’s going on around here, and it’s a lot easier on the spiritual (as well as biological) adrenals. Do, however, stay girded up because the interesting times aren’t even close to being over, and I think they are about to become even more interesting before they get boring again.

    #135280
    jb-hb
    Participant

    If you gathered up all the money in existence and paid it all towards paying off existing debt, then you would end up with tons and tons of debt, and zero money in existence.

    This is the inescapable underlying reality of how the worldwide economy functions. That’s not a free market. EVERYTHING must revolve around that debt, aware of it or not.

    Capitalism is the worst system, other than every other system that has been tried? Why don’t we try it without debt based currency, see if its worst excesses magically vanish?

    Everything everywhere essentially working for an unpayable pool of debt isn’t good for anyone. And paying a continual percentage to a chosen megarich few for the privilege of continually working on such a treadmill isn’t helpful either – a double corruption of market forces. What would the world even LOOK like in a few years of the world economy not continually trying to service unserviceable debt and without megarich masters of the universe throwing money around to make things happen nobody wants from the profound to the petty.

    Stop trying to make 2+2=5, jerks. Stop stopping people from solving problems on a continual basis. (but with AI and quantum computing, now we can make 2+2=5 forever!!!)

    #135281
    jb-hb
    Participant

    I was thinking about the new Miller Lite woke ad some more.

    It’s disturbing on a fundamental basis. Someone is thinking like a 4 year old having a fever-dream AND thinks they can project that out into the world and not be laughed at — and this not only came out of someone’s head without an apparent filter, it passed by a whole bunch of other people, people with jobs and responsibilities.

    The weird fever dream transition from “women were amongst the first who brewed beer” > “it was women doing the brewing” > “without women, there would be NO BEER” a strange escalating spinning-up of an alternate reality.

    “And how were the Originating Mothers Of Beer rewarded? (they became saintly and religious in the next escalation of spin-up) They put us in bikinis. (WE women now just became those saints) Look at all this shit” (woman walks into a roomful of old beer marketing paraphernalia featuring righteous babes)

    Were there Bikini Press-Gangs of men that would search the town, find a woman, chain her up, drag her off to a macro-brew dungeon, shove her into a bikini? They PUT them in a bikini? Bikinis seem to be the NORM now where, in decades past, they were definitely not. Putting Women In Bikinis is intrinsically bad? Who is putting women in bikinis right NOW???

    Those were women who wanted a career in modeling and, as we can see the proof, got to HAVE the career they wanted, got paid for it modeling in advertising. Probably phoned up their family and friends, jubilant when they got the gig. Used the money to do things they wanted to do. Yknow. Empowered.

    The idea that they can grind up toxic advertising materials, make compost out of it, and grow things in it is childish, magical — with a weird underlying absence of curiosity “wait a minute. do I even KNOW anything about gardening? mulching? compost?” Will we spray the marketing-swag slurry down with Brawndo to water the hops plants?

    Worse yet, there is a primitive aboriginal quality to the thing. As if women, having their images captured, had their souls captured.

    Gathering up the material and mulching it, then sending the results into the custody of women will, in a sense, free these trapped women’s souls. Didn’t Austin Powers, when he had his mojo stolen, need to drink his bottled mojo to re-absorb it? And when Bart Simpson sold his soul to Milhouse, didn’t he eat the paper representing his soul to re-absorb it?

    In the Dark Ages, people thought that sight TOUCHED things in order to sense it. One’s sight was referred to as one’s RAY, for instance. Something beaming out from the eye, touching the thing, and coming back to your eye. Or perhaps more like an invisible feeler stretching out from the eye. We can see the resurgence of this Medieval thinking in the concept of the Male Gaze, that somehow an actively intrusive thing is occurring, a kind of touching.

    Serious people with six and seven figure salaries and millions – nay, billions – of dollars at stake are pumping out weird fever-dream nonsense with total conviction. Saturating our economy. For everything from the profound to the petty. Had essentially a superstitious reaction to a virus rather than a scientific one.

    To live in a society doing useful things for it, you have to cooperate with all those other people in society. But what if they are so irrational that they cannot be cooperated with? The earth orbits the sun, is round, but nothing prevents people from believing that on a purely religious/superstitious basis. There’s nothing particular to a flat shape that is superstitious but a round shape that is automatically scientific. So we’ve lived amongst people who nodded and agreed that the earth orbits the sun and the world isn’t flat, only to watch the don plague masks and adopt purification rituals, new concepts of original sin, magical formulas to make reality bend if you use the right words – like spells.

    #135282

    Here‘s a reference to the WHO’s insanely creepy ideas about childhood sexuality.

    The most important thing was fire- making it and tending it. The hearth and its shared observations of phenology and lore led to Timekeeping and figuring out the first big secret.
    The first Big Secret uncovered was the male’s part in reproduction. This gave rise to domestication, property and inheritance.
    The second Big Secret uncovered was scaling. This gave rise to art and architecture. (Think of the Nazca lines, which I believe were prayer walks.)

    First pyramid- c2600BCE. First papyrus: c3000BCE. The blueprints were portable and reproducible.

    On a separate note, here’s the smoke map for those who are wondering why the sky where they live is dusty blue today.

    #135283
    zerosum
    Participant

    H. Clinton must be doing a victory lap because the Durham report did not recommend that she should be in jail.
    I expect the democrats to reward, nominate her to run for president. (Even the A.I.’s will support that decision)

    #135284
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Not that everything they say about debt-based fiat systems isn’t true, and not that central banks don’t turbo-charge it, but the essential problems is ALL money is promises. ALL systems are promises.

    We have a complete non-money system and I trade you a canoe for fish and a fishing net. But wait: I haven’t finished the canoe, I PROMISE, as your cousin-in-law who can’t go anywhere, that I’ll finish it. But I don’t. That happens everywhere through all time and that promise must be written off.

    This is no less true under the gold system. Although sophisticated and sound, “Gold” wasn’t traded, but “Gold exchange notes”. That is, yeah, somewhere in the system there’s gold, but you and me “trade” a promise for goods on 30-60 day CREDIT, a PROMISE to deliver wholesale. But that depends on my solvency and me selling the goods off MY shelf. Maybe someone dies. Maybe I’m bad at my job. Maybe a major copper mine caves in. When someone can’t deliver, they can’t deliver on PROMISES and default and are written off. All the way down the chain. And the more stable it’s been, and the more secure people have felt, the more promise-layers build up. That’s a ‘mania’. Cisco and Nortel “Promise” to deliver another planet they can sell routers to.

    Point being, even the gold standard, isn’t. It’s “promise standard”. That’s human beings. Now you can either sell the promissory note for discounted (<100%) gold today, OR collect in gold coins if you wish at the 60-day closing, so it’s a LOT more tied to reality – our system (like health care) now has NO attachment to physical reality, only political reality. But it’s still a “non-gold” “Promise system”. Sort of.

    But like I said, LEAST bad. Ran like a clock for 100 years, and 100 years of greatest human progress on earth in 2,000 (or 12,000) years. When they removed it: instant stagnation, Depression. Just like when they removed law and freedom from Rome.

    This works 50x worse. Can we at least go back to “Less bad”? We know what and where that is, thanks.

    #135285
    Dr. D
    Participant

    We know they exclusively believe in witchcraft and talismans (and Brawdo) because a core belief for decades is guns get up on their own and kill people. Like a cursed magic sword, whoever TOUCHES the sword is possessed, and kills people!

    This is likewise true of magic words: should someone even HEAR the words of Warlock Jordan Peterson, and/or merely GAZE UPON his power, they would be possessed and removed of the True Faith™, having no will of their own.

    The entire world runs this way, that is to say the direct and diabolical opposition to all Western Principles, the Age of Enlightenment. It’s a new Dark Ages, soup to nuts. And they’re the nuts.

    Make Science Great Again.™

    #135286
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Lotus on “Wokefishing” which is just an illustration that modern thought is just close-minded, fundamentalist, exclusionary, sin-religion.

    Why? Because it works. As we say in the West, people have a “religion-shaped hole”, so if you’re a social engineer, and you need a cult that will kill anyone you point at, kill all their children for you, and hand you all their money, you just make a cult that closely matches religion — in this case, long-tested Christianity — as is humanly possible.

    What’s interesting is A) the astonishing speed and B) that these are atheists and should recognize and know better that are Le Maximum, the Most, Fastest, Hardest, Zealots of the Zeal, Intolerants of the Intol, that fell for it. Huh? If I hadn’t seen it, I’d never believe.

    #135287
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Interesting comments recently. Here’s some thoughts in the same territory. First among them, I think, is a sort of unexpressed dismay about the fact that the only way doing things right has the sufficiently beneficial overall effect is if EVERYBODY (or at least the vast majority) does all of those right things in collaborative tandem at the same time (picture the material and spiritual uplifting of humanity accomplished by all humans lifting themselves by their own bootstraps at the same moment. . . . “On your marks! Ready! Set! LIFT!!)

    Such a feat seems pre-doomed by the sheer mathematical magnitude, so why bother even thinking about it, much less actually trying.

    Well the answer is that incremental improvement eventually does do the trick . . . eventually . . . . just look at a flower (or a galaxy). There are a lot of elemental particles in both, and they seem to be getting their respective jobs done quite nicely.

    P.S.
    I really like the cartoon of the Almighty evicting Adam and Eve from the Garden. Ouch! Way too true for comfort.

    #135288
    John Day
    Participant

    Crimes Without Punishment https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/crimes-without-punishment

    John Ward, the Slog, now relocated to The Gambia for reasons of freedom and sanity, which are in short supply in contemporary rural France, has posted about Tucker Carlson’s silencing, postulating that it may be due to his digging in the Kennedy & Nixon years. G. Gordon Liddy was a “Watergate Burglar” who did a little time for it, but he was also, always CIA.
    Ward explores that, but this is what riveted my attention:
    ​ ​On June 23, 1972, Nixon met with the then–CIA director, Richard Helms, at the White House. During the conversation, which thankfully was tape-recorded, Nixon suggested he knew “who shot John,” meaning President John F. Kennedy. Nixon further implied that the CIA was directly involved in Kennedy’s assassination, which we now know it was. Helms’s telling response? Total silence, but for Nixon, it didn’t matter because it was already over. Four days before, on June 19, The Washington Post had published the first of many stories about a break-in at the Watergate office building.” [Little things often tell us a lot. For example, TV crews for the Nixon/Kennedy debates are on the record as saying that Dick Nixon was hugely impressed by Kennedy’s performance, and chatted with him afterwards, ALWAYS referring to him as ‘John’ not Jack. Nixon did indeed have a good idea who’d shot JFK: the CIA Plumber G Gordon Liddy.​..]
    ​https://therealslog.com/2023/05/14/explosive-tucker-carlsons-earthquake/

    rinsing onons in puddle

    #135289
    John Day
    Participant

    ​ The Durham Report (“Special Prosecutor” should just be called “special investigator”, it seems.) politely says that all of the “Crossfire Hurricane” evidence on Trump-Russian-collusion never, ever existed, except for complete fabrications, which were always known by the NSA and FBI to be complete fabrications since before the 2016 election.​ John Leake (with Peter McCullough MD) has this in closing.
    In other words, in its Russian-Collusion reporting, the New York Times published assertions from “four unnamed current and former U.S. intelligence officials” that were entirely false. Thus, the practice of using “unidentified sources”—a practice that was once heavily frowned upon by respectable journalists—enabled the commission of a giant deception that inflicted untold damage to our political system.
    Even at that time (in early 2017) I told anyone who would listen that if it was possible to take down a sitting President of the United States by publishing the assertions of anonymous sources from within the state bureaucracy, then our government by elected officials was over, and our true masters were the “unnamed intelligence officials.”
    https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/special-counsel-john-durhams-report

    Pepe Escobar has an analysis of the Ukrainian “counter-offensive” (which it is not; it’s just a line of tactical counterattacks), which can be summarized as, “nobody anywhere seems to know what is going on in the Ukraine war these days”.
    ​ ​This is as serious as it gets. Because it’s linked to a key question posed across several educated silos in Moscow: if Russia is widely known to be the strongest military power in the world with the most advanced defensive and offensive missiles, how come they have not wrapped up the whole deal in the Ukrainian battlefield?
    ​ ​A plausible answer is that only 200,000 members of the Russian army are currently fighting, and about 400,000 to 600,000 are waiting in reserve for the Ukraine attack. While they wait they are in constant training; so waiting works to Russia’s advantage.
    ​ ​Once the famous “counter-offensive” peters out, Ukraine will be hit with massive force. There will be no negotiated settlement. Only unconditional surrender.
    (​Though, I’ll point out that this has been one of the common predictions since early March of 2022. Russia is prepared to counterstrike any NATO attack.)
    ​https://strategic-culture.org/news/2023/05/12/cries-and-whispers-along-the-russian-watchtowers/

    ​ Moon of Alabama has an update today about extensive Russian missile strikes on Ukraine again last night. It looks like Russia took out a Patriot missile-battery.​
    Nothing can shoot down these hypersonic missiles. The claim last week that Ukraine shot down a Kinzhal was refuted by the pieces of wreckage, which were consistent with a much smaller bunker-buster missile, nothing speedy at all.
    ​ ​I counted 30 Patriot PAC-3 MSE launches here.
    The FY2024 costs of these per missile is about $$5,275,000
    That was $158,250,000 fired in about two minutes. And as we see, the battery or something else likely got blown up. So it failed in its mission.​..
    ​..Ukraine does not have an integrated air defense that can attack all air targets at all levels. Russia though has such an integrated system of systems.
    It makes for a huge difference.
    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/05/ukraine-air-defense-lessons-.html#more

    ​ John Helmer has much more on “The Imitation Offensive​”, saying that the UK “Cloud Shadow” cruise missiles, apparently accompanies by HIMARS radar-jamming missiles to interfere with Russian air defenses, are only being used (successfully at first, then later with some shoot-downs) against civilian targets in cities, which are not specifically defended with local missile emplacements. Thanks Christine.
    George Eliason, reporting from Lugansk, confirms in the broadcast that the Ukrainian missile, rocket and artillery attacks are targeting undefended civilian targets, and avoiding Russian military targets whose defences include counter-battery targeting and fire units like the Zoopark. In the case of the two British-supplied Storm Shadow missiles, Eliason confirms they struck unoccupied civilian factories in Lugansk. The blasts from the two strikes blew out windows and inflicted superficial injuries in neighbouring apartment buildings. The area was not defended by main Russian or Lugansk air and anti-missile defence units.
    In a follow-on statement from the Defense Ministry in Moscow, issued after the broadcast went to air, the aircraft which fired the two British missiles have been identified. “On May 12, at about 18.30 Moscow time, combat aircraft of the air forces of Ukraine launched a missile attack on the polymer products enterprise Polypak and the Milam meat processing plant in the city of Lugansk. Storm Shadow aviation missiles supplied to the Kiev regime by the UK were used for the strike, contrary to London’s statements that these weapons would not be used against civilian targets. As a result of the strike, a fire started on the territory of the Lugansk food and chemical industry enterprises. There is destruction of nearby residential buildings. Civilians were injured, including six children. Fighter aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces shot down the Ukrainian aircraft which had launched the missile strike

    THE IMITATION OFFENSIVE

    #135290
    John Day
    Participant

    Thanks Christine. Controlling the world’s food supply to “control the people” was Kissinger’s Idea as Secretary of State under Nixon. The legacy is threatened.
    ​ ​US Corn Industry Faces Tough Times In Its Two Largest Export Markets, China and Mexico
    ​ ​After Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, China has sought new suppliers, including fellow BRICS members Brazil and South Africa, to reduce its dependence on US producers, while Mexico is determined to push through with its partial ban on GM corn
    ​ Between them China and Mexico accounted for just over half of all overseas purchases of US corn in the last crop marketing year (Sept. 1 2021- Aug. 31 2022)…
    ​..​China has been gradually reducing its corn imports from the US due to a combination of weak domestic demand and cheaper supplies from Brazil. Until recently, China imported roughly 70% of its corn from the US and roughly 30% from Ukraine, according to Brazilian grain exporters group Anec. But after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, Beijing has, unsurprisingly, tried to find new suppliers to reduce its dependence on US and Ukrainian producers. Two of the countries it has turned to are fellow BRICS members Brazil and South Africa, Africa’s largest corn grower.
    ​ ​The results are already being felt. As Reuters reported in early May, Chinese buyers cancelled 832,000 tons of orders in the last three weeks of April alone. That was enough to push US corn exports to their lowest weekly total on record.
    ​ ​“China has made a strategic decision that rather than deal with the United States and our political differences, they will just buy from Brazil,” said Jim Gerlach, president of broker A/C Trading in Indiana.
    ​ ​Brazil is not only providing China with cheaper corn but is on track to overtake the US as the world’s largest corn exporter this year.​..​
    .​..​Mexico’s dependency on US staples is largely the result of NAFTA, which eliminated the Mexican government’s protection mechanisms for Mexican farmers while preserving U.S. corn subsidies for US farmers. Two years after NAFTA, the Clinton Administration’s Farm Bill dismantled the last vestiges of U.S. government policies designed to boost prices by limiting overproduction.
    ​ ​The result was as predictable as it was brutal: the US flooded Mexico with staple foods at prices Mexican growers could not possibly compete with, forcing many of them out of business while discouraging others from trying to expand production. According to the Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy (IATP), in 16 of the 28 years since NAFTA took effect, the U.S. exported corn, soybeans, wheat, rice and cotton at prices 5-40% below what it cost to produce them.
    ​ ​Mexico’s President Andrés Manual Lopéz Obrador (aka AMLO) is determined to reverse this trend by reducing Mexico’s dependence on imported foods, though he faces an uphill challenge in actually pulling it off.
    ​ ​“We are going to produce in Mexico what we consume,” he during his presidential campaign. “We are in a tremendous crisis because we depend on foreigners for what we consume. There is no food sovereignty.”..On December 31, 2020 AMLO issued a presidential decree calling for all imports of GMO crops, including corn, as well as the “probably” carcinogenic weedkiller glyphosate to be phased out by the end of January 2024. Crucially, the decree enjoyed the support of Mexico’s Supreme Court, which in 2021 ratified the Precautionary Measure that bans permits to sow genetically modified corn in Mexico.​..​
    ​ ..But the ban would also hurt US farmers, global Big Ag companies and global biotech behemoths. More than 92% of the corn grown in the States is GMO. Domestically, almost all of it is used as animal feed or to produce ethanol and processed food such as corn syrup. The rest is exported, roughly a quarter of which goes to Mexico where it is predominantly used as animal feed. And the US government is determined to ensure that none of this dynamic changes changes.
    ​ ​Amid ratcheting pressure from the US side, including the threat of counter-sanctions, AMLO’s government earlier this year issued a new presidential decree that, among other things, exempted feed corn, which counts for the overwhelming majority of U.S. exports, from the restrictions. The new decree only applies to GM corn used in tortillas and corn-dough, which is supplied almost exclusively by Mexican producers of white and native corn varieties. Only four percent of US corn exports are white corn, and most of that does not go into tortillas.
    ​ ​In other words, the new decree will have minimal impact on US growers. Yet even that did not placate the US government. One reason for this is that the decree still retains plans to prohibit use of glyphosate, the deadline for which was brought forward to March 31, 2024. Plus, if Mexico were to actually ban some GMO imports of corn without suffering huge consequences, it would send a message to other countries in Latin America, one of the biggest markets for GMO crops, that there are alternatives available…

    US Corn Industry Faces Tough Times In Its Two Largest Export Markets, China and Mexico

    ​ From Meryl Nass MD: ​”Can We Reboot the Environmental Movement — So It Protects Freedom, Too?” The Defender
    ​ ​Finally, common sense on how we can retake the environmental movement from the climate changeologist Henny Pennies and focus on what we really need: clean air, water–our commons–and food.
    ​ ​Backlash against the COVID-19 fiasco of the last three years is building among a public that is slowly waking up to the unprecedented power grab and wealth transfer that took place under cover of a pandemic.
    ​ ​The environmental left is deeply worried about climate change, but the backlash against climate policy also is building.
    ​ ​People across the political spectrum are concerned about a top-down, authoritarian response to climate change using the COVID-19 response as the blueprint.
    ​ ​But there’s also a palpable longing for healthier, more sustainable ways of living.​..
    ​..​“As a Davos-dropout,” Bendell writes, “I know how their belief in the myth that their power and wealth are an invitation to shape the world makes them susceptible to overlooking the basic rights of ordinary people like us.”
    ​ ​Bendell was one of the few environmentalists to vigorously criticize authoritarian COVID-19 policies over the last several years, enduring abuse from his fellow greens who were fully invested in official narratives about the pandemic.
    ​ ​Bendell sees climate policy going down a similar path:
    ​ ​“The ideas and policies emerging at Davos primarily focus on accessing more public money for private ventures with dubious ecological credentials and creating digital infrastructures for the control of ordinary people.”
    https://merylnass.substack.com/p/can-we-reboot-the-environmental-movement

    ​ ​The 2000 Year Old Food Forest in Morocco​ , Geoff Lawton returns yet again to a site he and friends discovered long ago, one day when the surf gave out. ​

    #135292
    John Day
    Participant

    Confirmation:
    Russia Says It Took Out US-Supplied Patriot Missile In Hypersonic Strike On Kiev
    The US-supplied systems only arrived last month, and just recently entered operation.

    The MoD said in its latest press briefing that its attacks destroyed “Ukrainian troops positions and places of storage of munitions, weapons and military hardware delivered from Western nations.”
    Russia’s RT followed by stating the following:
    A precision strike by a Russian hypersonic Kinzhal missile has destroyed a Patriot air defense system in Kiev, the Defense Ministry in Moscow reported on Tuesday. The Ukrainian government previously claimed that Kinzhal missiles had been intercepted by the US-made weapons platform.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-says-it-took-out-us-supplied-patriot-missile-unit-hypersonic-strike-kiev

    #135293
    John Day
    Participant

    The Ethical Skeptic makes a case that atmospheric CO2 rises come from the Earth’s core temperature rising. Atmospheric CO2 was the highest in modern record during northern hemispheric winter in COVID-lockdown. (This is quite early in his extensive analysis.)

    The largest rise in atmospheric carbon ppm in 45 years came right on the heels of the hottest year on record, and during the vernal equinox timeframe (for the Northern Hemisphere) – in other words, the carbon increase followed the temperature rise, maintained its normal seasonal arrival distribution, and did not precede that heat increase. Moreover, all of this occurred during a climate change activist’s dream scenario, one in which global fossil fuel consumption was down 16% (~47% in western nations, the villains in this play) – and should have produced a sizeable and measurable effect in ppm and/or temperature, neither of which manifested (except carbon ppm in China alone).

    The Climate Change Alternative We Ignore (to Our Peril)

    #135294
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    It seems that the UkoNazis had to launch all their Patriot missiles to prevent them being blown up on the ground and generating another mushroom cloud.

    Bakhmut about to fall -be evacuated.

    ‘Nice’.

    Where’s the Indian billionaire who is pretending to be PM of the UK?

    #135295
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    ‘The Ethical Skeptic makes a case that atmospheric CO2 rises come from the Earth’s core temperature rising. Atmospheric CO2 was the highest in modern record during northern hemispheric winter in COVID-lockdown’

    Not true, of course.

    Anything but the truth when it comes to the role of CO2 in inducing Planetary Meltdown. Too much vested interest at stake. Better to melt the planet than forgo the use of fossil fuels.

    The Northen summer is going to be very ‘interesting’.

    And 2024 will be even more ‘interesting’, if the anticipated El Nino kicks in the way it is expected to.

    By the way, the Earth’s core continues to cool at a very slow rate.

    #135296
    John Day
    Participant

    @AFKTT: Take a look. The Ethical Skeptic is quite rigorous in his collection and presentation of data. That was the tip of the iceberg, so to speak. https://theethicalskeptic.com/2020/02/16/the-climate-change-alternative-we-ignore-to-our-peril/#respond

    I’m up to the Schumann Resonance Banding Amplitude (correlated to core temperature) analysis, and reading slowly, carefully…

    #135297
    zerosum
    Participant
    #135298
    zerosum
    Participant

    Some interesting cut & paste info
    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/05/ukraine-air-defense-lessons-/comments/page/2/#comments
    The main target was the US Patriot anti-aircraft missile system itself. As well as some military-industrial facilities and command posts, ammunition depots and fuel bases.
    The main thing is that the “Patriot” could not shoot down our Kinzhal, which eventually destroyed the American battery. As for our other means of attack, the Ukrainian air defense system managed to shoot down only about 10% of our Kalibr missiles and Geran drones. 90% of them reached the goal.

    So far, there is information that the sky over Kiev was covered by 1 Patriot battery with 16 missiles. Other batteries are only put into combat by the Americans. It is expected that there will be at least 4 such batteries.

    It took one “Kinzhal”. The auxiliary vehicles and units included in the American battery finished off by Calibers.

    This tactic was “prompted” to us by the Americans themselves. First wave were Geranium drones. They were spotted by American radars and thus gave away their positions. Next came anti-radar missiles that destroyed enemy radars. And after that, Caliber and Dagger flew over the already blind Patriot and other objects.

    About the cost of the Kinzhal – there is information that it can cost from 30 to 70 million rubles, depending on the modification. But one Patriot missile is estimated at about $ 4 million – 4-8 times more expensive than our hypersonic ammunition. And the Ukrainians (or Americans?) fired from 16 to 30 missiles at targets. Well, the destroyed Patriot battery itself costs from $ 0.5 to 1 billion – this also depends on its modification.

    Yes, our air defense specialists did not immediately manage to find an antidote for the British Storm Shadow, which in recent days have been hitting Lugansk. As is the case with the American Himars. Now, on some days, we shoot dozens of Himars from the sky. The same thing happened with Storm Shadow. We hit these 7 missiles with the help of Buk-3M, Tor, Pantsir-S and an electronic warfare system that forced foreign missiles to go far from the target.

    By the way, Storm Shadow is a very expensive ammunition. The cost of 1 rocket – Storm $ 1.3 million.

    Viktor Baranets kp.ru

    Posted by: ostro | May 16 2023 17:24 utc | 115

    #135299
    Observer
    Participant

    John Day – That ethical skeptic article is probably the best thought out theory I’ve seen combining the role of geological heat in combination with excess heat load from anthropogenic activities in our overall conundrum – definitely worth following up on (although as a scientist myself I don’t rate the chances of anyone getting funding for it – there is a standing joke that science advances with every old scientists obituary). There is a bit of stuff in the literature on sub-sea vulcanism in and around the Antarctic Peninsula (if I remember correctly) and higher ice melt rates below the massive glaciers terminating in the ocean there. I always thought that if that is the case in that one small zone then there is no reason why it couldn’t be happening elsewhere and adding to the heat load of the planet. As the author points out this is additional heating on top of that induced by the excess approx. 4ppm CO2 misbalance/increase per year via human activity in photosynthetic uptake versus production.
    Being a microbiologist, my posit would be that the excess CO2 derived from human activity has increased the planets energy imbalance enough (possibly toward a tipping point) that this extra (heat) energy has resulted not only in methane release from the arctic but also increased the rate of methanotrophy where microbes in the surface sediments are now metabolically more active and are consuming a proportion of the additional methane from tundra soils and adding further CO2 loading to the atmosphere (those tundra soils are a smoking gun – methane derived from agriculture pales in comparison so targeting farmers is non-sensical IMO. Water pollution derived from agriculture and industry is by far the bigger concern). Microbes have enormous capacity to really F things up for us and are certainly uncontrolable. When we are gone, life will certainly continue, just not as we know it!
    Also we shouldn’t forget that the ocean is not only a heat sink but a CO2 sink – more CO2 can be dissolved in cold water, so the capacity of the ocean to act as a CO2 sink will be slowly decreasing with time as it warms. With such a massive volume of water on the planet, any miniscule change in the capacity of the ocean to soak up CO2 would be huge on the scale of CO2 in the atmosphere.
    Back to the artic region – geological history links massive vulcanism there (Siberian traps) to prior climate change via CO2 release (and no doubt other gases like SO2) into the atmosphere (and mass extinction). If mantle convection leads to differing subsurface heat loading and this happens to be under the artic and is contributing to increasing the rates of methane release and microbiological activity.
    In the words of a colleague – we are farting against thunder.

    #135300
    zerosum
    Participant

    You can go to jail for lying.

    (…the American government was lying to the American people and the major news networks were complicit.)

    #135301
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “In the words of a colleague – we are farting against thunder.”

    Lol!!! I’m reminded of a brief impromptu Biblical oratorio my best friend and I did in high school one of the first times we’d smoked wind. (literally sophomoric gross body humor alert):

    In whatever we concocted as we sang Zappaesque nonsense, Jehovah somehow became a Giant Asshole in the Sky. Not personality-wise, but the very orifice itself.

    And I sang of its mighty wind:

    “The wind is exhilarating,
    His anus is vibrating!”

    ***

    I don’t think that the WHO is grooming children to be pedosexual phallic fodder. There are already ample sex trafficking corridors to supply upper tier pedosexuals.

    I think they’re just stupid in the way that only collective humans can be. 200 years ago, the moral powers that be in Victorian England preached the opposite of the above WHO language.

    “There were two related concerns that led to the widespread adoption of this surgical procedure at this time. The first was a growing belief within the medical community regarding the efficacy of circumcision in reducing the risk of contracting sexually transmitted diseases, such as syphilis. The second was the notion that circumcision would lessen the urge towards masturbation, or “self abuse” as it was often called.

    The tradition of circumcision is said to have been practiced within the British Royal Family, with varying accounts regarding which monarch started it: either Queen Victoria on account of her rumored adherence to British Israelism and the notion she was a descendant of King David (or on the advice of her personal physician), or her third great-grandfather King George.[75] The German-born King George was also the Prince-Elector of Hanover, and rumors existed that the Prince electors were circumcised.[75] This is highly dubious since there is no evidence that Victoria was a supporter of the British Israeli movement, and the links between the royal family and the ancient House of David were only first proposed by its followers in the 1870s, long after she bore her sons (there is also evidence lacking that her sons, particularly Edward, had circumcisions); there is also no indication that the prince electors (or George himself) were circumcised and that the king introduced it upon his arrival to Britain and his ascension to the throne in 1714.[75] If members of the royal family were circumcised, the reason was due to their embrace of a custom popular amongst the upper-classes in the late 19th and 20th centuries.[75] Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex is reported to have been circumcised.”

    The brutal anti-masturbation devices of the Victorian era

    Now we have the reverse:

    #135302
    Celticbiker
    Participant

    Shlomo wants you dead, cripped, sterile or insane. Why is that so hard for you dense, over educated, pre programmed shitforbrains to understand? Wake up Goyim, you’re in the crosshairs.

    #135303
    kultsommer
    Participant

    @Oro
    There is Jim’s “Eyesore of the month” (true) and there is a Masterpiece – TWA airport.

    The TWA Flight Center: Eero Saarinen’s Masterpiece at JFK Airport


    Building technology and trades of the past are not available now days or, more likely, they are cost prohibitive – unless one is in favor of “pastiche architecture” .

    #135304
    kultsommer
    Participant
    #135305
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Netflix ‘black’ Cleopatra gets bitch slapped until she turns white!

    Hahahahahahaha!

    2% audience approval, the lowest rating in the history of ratings.

    Netflix HUMILIATED as Woke “Queen Cleopatra” Unites Audience and Critics in Scorn

    #135306
    ezlxa1949
    Participant

    It occurred to me yesterday that the way the elites are behaving greatly resembles a tontine. Simply put, this is an investment scheme where the last survivor gets everything.

    So, if the elites are indeed conniving to eliminate the bulk of the population, then the time will come when the elites have run out of non-elite targets and must start eliminating each other.

    In the final analysis it’s all totally futile. When I’m safely dead then I’m beyond their reach. And death really is their only weapon.

    I truly don’t know what they propose to do with all their assets and their glorious isolation. C.S. Lewis imagined the gates of Hell as being locked from the inside. The elites seem to be slamming the gates shut even now.

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