Debt Rattle May 2 2016

 

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    NPC Walker Hill Dairy, Washington, DC 1921 • Japanese Stocks Fall Sharply in the Morning (WSJ) • Asian Economies Stay Sluggish, Stimulus Lacks Tractio
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle May 2 2016]

    #27934
    V. Arnold
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    Jaysus, Russia again! WTF is wrong with the west (NATO) and their incessant aggression towards Russia? All the while claiming Russian aggression??!!
    Insanity; the U.S. has lost its collective mind.
    Fortunately Europe is starting to wake up and rebel against sanctions against Russia which has done egregious damage to Europe’s economy. Austria, France, Germany, and Italy have all been affected negatively while Russia has turned this idiocy into a positive for its infrastructure of manufacturing and especially its agricultural sectors.
    The idiotic EU has followed the U.S. to it own demise.
    Billions of Euros lost for what?
    The U.S. will fast become the most despised country on the planet as it follows neo-liberal and neo-con policies down the road to hell.

    #27935
    Raleigh
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    V. Arnold – “WTF is wrong with the west (NATO) and their incessant aggression towards Russia?”

    The West want to shut off Russia’s flow of gas to Europe. The West (U.S. corporations) want their pipelines from Qatar and Saudi Arabia to be supplying Europe, not Russia. Call Russia aggressive, sanctions follow the trumped-up Russian aggression, everybody belonging to NATO gets on board, prospective pipeline countries are destroyed (Iraq, Syria), clearing the way for the pipelines.

    The U.S. want to ostracize Russia, cut it off. Imagine what a wonderful relationship Russia could have had with Europe. But, like you said yesterday and today, this will end up being a good thing for Russia because she will develop her own industries. The U.S. will try to bankrupt Russia, and then go after her. She is too resource-rich for the U.S. to ignore.

    Too bad.

    #27938
    Nassim
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    “How the European Union is manipulating the Syrian refugees
    by Thierry Meyssan”
    https://www.voltairenet.org/article191568.html

    Pretty obvious stuff

    #27939
    rapier
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    The why the enmity for Russia goes deeper than oil supplies to Europe in any medium term. I have a novel answer and it goes deeper than oil. It’s about debt, or rather an intrinsic Russian mistrust of debt.

    I am sure your aware that Russian rhetoric often includes the term Zionist. This is typically associated with anti semitism but I think it pertains more to debt, and banking. Most forget that in the rise out of the middle ages that the Catholic church, which was all Christendom, forbade lending at interest. So it came to be that Jews literally became the leading bankers. Part of the deep well of anti semtism in the West owes to this now forgotten fact. Part of this fact is that people mistrusted debt and bankers. For reasons we here do now.

    What we survey daily here is the empire of debt, bankers and finance. We don’t associate it with Jews anymore. This empire of debt and banks and finance is the Zionism the Russians refer to, to some large extent I propose.

    The point being that the empire of banking and debt will not abide a place, Russia, which rejects their basic premise, which I think to some extent they do. That premise is that ‘growth’ via debt is good. This is the ultimate heresy for which Russia will be fought. So goes my crackpot idea.

    #27940
    V. Arnold
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    @ rapier

    Your idea is not so crackpot; but I think you overstate the anti Semitism aspects. There is some from the WWII generation; that has its roots in Jewish merchants would only accept gold for bread in the immediate aftermath of WWII.
    It’s true re: Russians and debt; it goes against long standing values. The west (U.S. specifically) hates that because it make it impossible to exploit the Russians.
    What’s especially macabre is that the U.S. understands absolutely nothing of Russian culture or history as it blunders its way to defeat against Russia.
    The U.S. has made an enemy they do not understand and will never defeat…

    #27941
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    @ Raleigh

    It is impossible for the U.S. to bankrupt Russia today. Oh, they’re trying but failing at every turn. Pres. Putin knows the game even better than the hegemon and remains a step ahead.
    As some wag suggested; the U.S. is playing checkers while Russia is playing chess…

    #27942
    Raleigh
    Participant

    V. Arnold – I hope so. I hope Russia can keep fending off the attacks, but they just keep coming at her. If nothing else, I believe that Putin loves his country and will do his utmost to keep it strong.

    rapier – I believe what you say is true also; Russia doesn’t want to play the debt game. Every single so-called socialist country (the ones who don’t want to rape their citizens) has been ostracized, sanctioned or been helped along with overthrows or coups (Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea, Libya, on and on). “You will play the game, or else!”

    “…the empire of debt, bankers and finance. We don’t associate it with Jews anymore.” From what I read, I think it is still associated with Jews. If there’s a post about banking or central banks, out come the Jew comments: “Damn Jews, Greenspan, Bernanke, Yellen. Are Jews the only people allowed to run the central bank?”

    A post on banking brings up Blankfein, Summers, Rubin, Schwarzman, Weill, and out come the comments on Jews.

    Or the newest Obama attempt at putting another Jew on the U.S. Supreme Court (which, if confirmed, the court would then consist of five Catholics and four Jews). Many comments on why there are no Protestant judges. And why, when Jews make up less than 2% of the U.S. population, would they potentially have four seats on the U.S. Supreme Court.

    Many comments re Jews running the world (Bilderberg, Rothchild, Kissinger, Soros). If anything, comments re Jews are growing.

    I even read that the crooks who looted Russia after the downfall of the Soviet Union were the Jews.

    I don’t know if these comments are correct or not, but they are most definitely there.

    #27944
    Raleigh
    Participant

    “Members of Turkey’s governing AK party and pro-Kurdish politicians have traded blows in parliament over plans to strip MPs of their immunity from prosecution. The brawl erupted as a committee met to discuss the government-backed changes to the constitution. Some parliamentarians launched themselves into the melee from a table, others threw water or aimed punches.

    The opposition Peoples’ Democratic Party (HDP) say the move is aimed at stifling dissent.
    Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has called for members of the pro-Kurdish HDP to face prosecution, accusing them of being an extension of the banned Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK).

    Several parliamentarians were injured in the fighting. A session last week on the constitutional changes also broke up in violence.”

    And the EU wants to deal with this guy?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36188323

    #27945
    Raleigh
    Participant

    “Top advisor to the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) Quds Force commander announced that the downfall of the ISIL terrorist group has started. “The ISIL collapse has started intellectually and doctrinally and in the battlefield,” Brigadier General Iraj Masjedi said, addressing a gathering in the Central city of Kashan on Sunday night. He expressed the hope that the current year would witness the fall of the ISIL and Takfiri terrorism in the region.

    Elsewhere, General Masjedi blasted the US and Israel for their warmongering policies in the region, and said, “While the Americans claim that they are fighting against the terrorists, they don’t carry out any operations against the ISIL and instead supply them with equipment and weapons.”

    In relevant remarks in February 2015, IRGC Quds Force Commander Major General Qassem Soleimani underlined that the terrorist groups in the region, specially the ISIL, were experiencing the last days of their lives.”

    https://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13950213000410

    Let’s hope so, but the U.S. just put more troops on the ground. They must feel they are losing.

    #27946
    Raleigh
    Participant

    Nassim – that’s a very interesting article you posted. There is a lot more to this story than meets the eye, big plans that of course politicians and far too many unelected people get to decide on, leaving the citizens virtually no voice, essentially because the damage is done before the public can vote the scum out. I’m going to read it a few more times before commenting. Thanks.

    #27989
    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    Hi Guys,

    Please use more precise terms. “The US” didn’t do anything. Very specific people made decisions conforming to the interests of other very specific people.
    When you overgeneralize in your terminology, YOU HIDE THE REAL CULPRITS.
    The Debt-Money Monopoly is attacking Russia – and every other country without a Debt-Money Monopolist controlled central bank.
    That is the accurate statement – and impossible for someone to glean when using words like “The US.” The US government is the vassal of the Debt-Money Monopolists because the latter funds the political campaigns and the government itself… the borrow is SERVANT to the lender.
    The pinnacle of the pyramid of authoritarian power in the world emanates from the Debt-Money Monopolists. Every other group with ostensible power only has it because THEY PLEASE THE DEBT-MONEY MONOPOLY. They have NO INTRINSIC POWER AT ALL. They are paid workers.

    The Debt-Money Monopolists are the architects. Blame the architects, not the working stiffs. If they were paid more to do good, most would do good. The Debt-Money Monopoly doesn’t pay well for doing good, SO THEY DON’T. THEY MONEY POWER HAS THE ULTIMATE CONTROL. BLAME THE ULTIMATE CONTROLLERS.

    “The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the people versus the [Debt-Money Monopolist private owners and controllers of the] banks.”
    ~Lord Acton, slightly modified in brackets for improved clarity of meaning

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