May 2, 2021 at 6:21 pm #74338
@ island raider
““It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society” (quote from J Krishnamurti).”
Beautiful.May 2, 2021 at 6:22 pm #74339
So if these new vaccines turn out to be something of an unconcealable disaster, as it looks as though it may very well be, I wonder how the authorities and the conformist normal children of the comfortable classes will cover their asses? Will they even admit they might have been wrong in making getting these shots into The Correct And Fashionable Thing? My guess is that unless people just start dropping like flies, they’ll just quietly slip into “Pretend It Never Happened” mode.May 2, 2021 at 6:25 pm #74340
Correction: The Novavax vacine uses Matrix -MMay 2, 2021 at 6:25 pm #74341
@ iIster Roboto
“My guess is that unless people just start dropping like flies, they’ll just quietly slip into “Pretend It Never Happened” mode.”
They’re already doing that, per my perspective. Both the drop like flies thing and the Pretend It Never Happened deal.
It’s like the moonwalk. You go backward while your feet appear to be going forward. In this case, they’re raping and pillaging with every step of retreat but they’re retreating even as they try to squeeze every last bit of money and power from it.
Parasites can’t live without hosts. Smallpox has been eradicated but humans remain inlarger numbers than ever.May 2, 2021 at 6:41 pm #74342my parents said knowParticipant
“Protein S (also known as S-Protein and spike protein) is a vitamin K-dependent plasma glycoprotein synthesized in the liver.” good ol’ Wiki.
Protein S concerns coagulation and clotting. It is part of us. If we have a hard time making it, we suffer clot problems. Spike proteins are on all coronaviruses. That’s how they get in and infect us.
How specific is the “vaccine'”s generated antibody attack to the spike protein? If it makes the body attack protein S at large, there’s going to be a clotting problem.
All spike proteins are S proteins.
I have been wondering how long it would be before they could get it across that CANCER was contagious? MRNA was first used as a (failed) cancer therapy, I think.
The NYT magazine, today: “mRNA Vaccines Come for Cancers.
Vaccines that exploit mRNA technology, which found proof of concept with Covid-19…”
On a different note, Cspan callers were asked about stimulus checks. About half said they were not needed. Why didn’t they ask people to request them? Too hard?
mpskMay 2, 2021 at 6:47 pm #74343
“Pretend It Never Happened” – Harold Pinter sums it up perfectly in his Nobel Lecture.
Listen for a few minutes from here:
“It Never Happened. Nothing Ever Happened. Even While It Was Happening It Didn’t Happen”.May 2, 2021 at 6:56 pm #74344Michael ReidParticipant
Michael – the mRNA in the Pfizer and Moderna ‘vaccines’ codes for the S-Spike protein. This code is used by your cellular machinery to manufacture the S-Spike protein. These proteins are what elicits an immune response. The AZ vaccine is different in that it uses DNA to carry the code for the S-Spike protein into your cell.
“the spike proteins cause all sorts of nasty damage in the human body and quite possibly with sufficient accumulated damage results in death?”
– Yes, this is exactly what is happening, and for many it is fatal.
Only the Sinovac and Sinopharm vaccines use denatured whole virus – as previous traditional vaccines.
With this information, I can see an evilly, evil plan or perhaps many would say the super elite are just getting lucky.
The people who received the vaccine will suffer accumulating internal damage over time causing them to get serious health problems and potentially death due to this damage.
Does anyone know if a person has taken the vaccine is that person’s life insurance now void?May 2, 2021 at 7:10 pm #74345
Does anyone know if a person has taken the vaccine is that person’s life insurance now void?
Vague area.May 2, 2021 at 7:34 pm #74346
I’d avoid a blood transfusion from anybody who’s been vaxxed!May 2, 2021 at 8:18 pm #74347Doc RobinsonParticipant
This article response in the British Medical Journal BMJ from September 2020 (when Covid deaths in the US and UK were only about a third of what they are now) makes me angry. It’s the first time I’ve heard that Dr. Fauci has been taking 6,000 IU of Vitamin D per day, while the official recommendations in the US have not gone above 800 IU.
Good news for older women, though. Women evidently produce more T-cells than men, and women’s T-cell response doesn’t diminish with age (unlike men’s).
And about Japan’s low death rates from Covid: “Japan has the highest proportion of elderly on the planet but despite lack of lockdowns, little mask wearing and high population densities in cities, it escaped with few COVID deaths. Could this, at least in part, be because of extraordinarily high vitamin D levels of over 30 ng/ml in 95% of the active elderly? By comparison, UK average levels are below 20ng/ml”
T-cells really are the superstars in fighting COVID-19 – but why are some of us so poor at making them?
German researchers found that a staggering 81% of individuals had pre-existing T-cells that cross-react with SARS-CoV-2 epitopes…
Antibodies can only latch onto and help destroy pathogens outside cells and may also occasionally, paradoxically, enhance a pathogen’s ability to infect cell instead by antibody dependent ”enhancement” or ADE. It is only the T-cell that can cleverly sense and destroy pathogens inside infected cells using “sensors” which detect foreign protein fragments…
Research establishments including Yale found that in mild or asymptomatic cases, many T-cells are produced. These were highly varied, responding not just to parts of the Spike, S protein or Receptor Binding Domain but to many other parts of the virus. Notably, in these mild cases there were few or no detectable antibodies. Conversely, the severely ill produced few T-cells with less variety but had plenty of antibodies. What is also of interest is that men produced fewer T-cells than women, and unlike women, their T-cell response reduced with age.
So why are some people unable to mount a good protective T-cell response? The key to this question might be a 10-year-old Danish study led by Carsten Geisler, head of the Department of International Health, Immunology and Microbiology at the University of Copenhagen . Geisler noted that “When a T cell is exposed to a foreign pathogen, it extends a signalling device or ‘antenna’ known as a vitamin D receptor, with which it searches for vitamin D,”, and if there is an inadequate vitamin D level, “they won’t even begin to mobilize.” In other words, adequate vitamin D is critically important for the activation of T-cells from their inactive naïve state...
Another intriguing clue is that Japan has the highest proportion of elderly on the planet but despite lack of lockdowns, little mask wearing and high population densities in cities, it escaped with few COVID deaths. Could this, at least in part, be because of extraordinarily high vitamin D levels of over 30 ng/ml in 95% of the active elderly? By comparison, UK average levels are below 20ng/ml…
Substantially more vitamin D is required for optimal immune function than for bone health. It seems Dr Fauci is not ignorant of this, having apparently confirmed on TV and by email that he takes 6,000 IU daily! (see Dr John Campbell on YouTube Vitamin D and pandemic science, 16 September 2020). Meanwhile the US’s health body continues to recommend only 600-800 IU and the UK’s, only 400 IU.May 2, 2021 at 9:54 pm #74348
Doom Humor Alert:
wait until they announce that it’s sexually transmissable. Of course it is, but for many of today’s Americans, if they’re not told that it is so, it simply doesn’t exist.
What’s the diff between the bassist, grooving her booty a bit while playing a monotone and a-1 & a-2 beat, and the likes of Miley Cyrus twerking onstage?
MIley’s music SUCKS, and these guys are pretty good. All MIley has is her twerking and a well-trained voice. This trio has their art, their love of it, and enough proficiency at it and aesthetic sense for it to be fun and even make one happy.
“If it sounds good, it is good”, right?
Plus, to keep that simple a bass groove going that well for that long, you gotta shake it, mon. Women are superior bass players, imo, now that gender perceptions allow them to become more widely spread (and oh do I have a dirty mind for thinking that widely spread sounds dirty 😉 ).
We won’t even begin to consider the amazing restraing shown by the drummer, who is almost entirely felt not heard.May 2, 2021 at 9:58 pm #74349LudwigVonParticipant
Was that not 1957-1958?May 2, 2021 at 9:58 pm #74350island raiderParticipant
“wait until they announce that it’s sexually transmissable.”
The virus or the vaccine?May 2, 2021 at 10:11 pm #74351
I wish I could take vitamin D pills, but pretty much all synthetic vitamins and minerals cause me to have a headache all day the next day that pain-relievers are powerless against (probably one of my many consequences of the terrible care I took of myself in my dysfunctional youth). That’s just one reason why I make such a big deal out of eating healthy (or at least healthy compared to the way I used to eat).May 2, 2021 at 10:15 pm #74352
@Ludwig: If you’re referring to my comment about past influenza pandemics, there was one in 1957-8 and one in 1967-8. The latter one, colloquially known as “The Hong Kong Flu”, was the one I asked my Boomer older brother if he remembered but didn’t at all.May 2, 2021 at 11:58 pm #74355sumac.carolParticipant
Big protest yesterday in Montreal against covid measures (lockdowns, curfew, masks).
Even got good media coverage.May 3, 2021 at 1:19 am #74356
@ island raider
““wait until they announce that it’s sexually transmissable.”
The virus or the vaccine?”
LOL! I hadn’t thought of that. Honey, we have to wear double condoms. I’ve been “vaccinated”.
Regarding large group covid protests: they are so many ways that narrative can be co-opted, and co-opting narratrives is the game du jour these days. One side astroturfs, then the other side, back and forth. It worries me. It repolityicizes the issue, and politicization is the kiss of the devil in our current hyper-mediated via centralized content control.
Speaking of astroturf:
“While most were peaceful, some descended into violence, with the left-wing ‘Revolutionary May 1st Protest’ turning out to be particularly chaotic.”
The stats on this in a month or two should be interesting.
reminds me of these remarks I read the other day somewhere:
Do you think organized religion and spirituality in general will disappear in the future?
Nope. Just like as in that link, though, what we can expect is much more occult sex magic.
The Abrahamic religions differ in degree, but they all basically reject sex magic. Internet porn is the game-changer. Sex as representational magic via porn – the ability to reach out at distance via pictorial symbols and move you – just about every Internet-connected person on the planet has now experienced that.
Yes, even accidentally or unwillingly. Women, children, grandparents and the devout – porn’s still so ubiquitous that if you’re on the open Internet then you’ve seen it.
So our populations have been exposed as never before to the power and importance of sex magic – as part of that power, as anyone with a kink will tell you, comes from thinking a sexual thing is forbidden or wrong and then focusing on it all the time.
But the Abrahamic religions aren’t going to be on board for this – not beyond the most esoteric and out-there branches. Can we expect a resurgence of Hinduism? As long as it’s tied to Indian nationalism I doubt it’ll have much international appeal. Buddhism just wants to get off…but not like that.
That leaves the occult practices that exist on the borders of every belief structure, rationalism included. Grow your “personal energy,” live your “best life,” get your “core practices” optimized etc.
Or just go with the old symbolic classics Stanley Kubrick’s 2001 was so fond of: the phallus as monolith, the horns of the bull, the moon, the sun etc. etc.
This’ll all subside eventually – probably as we get smarter about using the Net and the Net itself gets smarter. (Google Image Search has massively improved from the cesspool it once was…or at least it’s gotten way better at understanding what its querents really want to see.)
For the time being, though, internet porn has cast a spell over the whole world. Expect its effects to become more obvious.
Never mind his obvious religious leanings. He’s right about private in-home Borgesian porn libraries naturally lerading us toward our kinks both known and latent, and this produces in most people a guilty shameful inferior feeling deep within.
I have no problem with porn per se, no more, that is, then with any audio-visual fantasy: they shortcircuit our brains and do things to us that most of us don’t begin to understand, while the Big Brotherians who analyse our online time with various AI, understand this very well.
This won’t “all subside eventually” except insomuch as internet access and availability will crumble in tandem, more or less, with our power grids.
“narratrives ” A typoe to keep. This neologism means “contrived narratives”.May 3, 2021 at 1:21 am #74357
We like graoups. No one forces us to these sites. We were willingly seduced. Hollering rape is like yelling at your sexbot for initiating sex after you programmed it to do so.May 3, 2021 at 1:25 am #74358
Again, what IS this thing?May 3, 2021 at 1:31 am #74359
“The only thing shocking about all of this is their admitting to it so soon. I would’ve expected this to come out in four or five years.” is a comment about this twitter item:
The spin cycle is increasing with destabilizing rapidity. How much of it is Darwinian news pressure now that they don’t have the Orange Man as a de facto federal subsidy, how much is competing puppet masters, how much is just well-advanced centrifugal instability that will soon shatter the spin cycles into incoherent discordant media gelatin…?May 3, 2021 at 1:33 am #74360May 3, 2021 at 2:59 am #74361V. ArnoldParticipant
“Pretend It Never Happened” – Harold Pinter sums it up perfectly in his Nobel Lecture.
Pinter painfully resonates with my thoughts and feelings over the last 18 years of self exile…
Pinters critical thinking vocalizes clear vision of the present; and the failings of our blind pursuit of ideologies…May 3, 2021 at 3:06 am #74362VietnamVetParticipant
I googled Germ’s information and found the following;
Salk researchers and collaborators show how the coronavirus spike protein damages cells, confirming COVID-19 as a primarily vascular disease.
mRNA vaccines code the assembly of the spike protein to trigger the immune system response.
I will need to go to the dentist and doctors, sooner or later. Isolating at home is not a long-term solution. I located the state drive-in Pfizer vaccination site 45-minutes away and was going to call to make an appointment. This news mucks everything up.
Since I am an old fart, I resent the implication that I should just go and die. This attitude causes civil wars. But this amoral ideology has infested the West and brought on the pandemic. “Profits before lives”. If the USA had a functional national public health system and a government that cared about the best interests of its citizens, all this would have been avoided.May 3, 2021 at 6:07 am #74363DarkMatterParticipant
I went to flccc.org and contacted one of the doctors they recommend. I told the doctor my mother and grandfather died of stroke and they recommended (and sent me a letter to that effect) that I not get vaccinated and prescribed prophylactic Ivermectin to avoid getting Covid. Cost for the consultation was $110. I used this to get a medical exemption with my employer. If someone asks I say that based on family history my doctor recommends I not get vaccinated. No one asks any further questions.
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