Debt Rattle May 23 2021
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Edvard Munch Separation 1894 • 160+ Experts Slam Covid Vaccines As ‘Unnecessary, Ineffective And Unsafe’ (LSN) • Second And Last Reply To M. Ye
[See the full post at: Debt Rattle May 23 2021]She died yesterday –
Young Model Stephanie Dubois In Coma After Astra Zeneca Vaccine
“Unlikely SARS CoV2 variants might escape T cell recognition at population level”
SARS-CoV-2 Human T cell Epitopes: adaptive immune response against COVID-19.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1931312821002389“What Really Happened With that Weird Yankees COVID Outbreak”
Special Update: Monitoring For Myocarditis After COVID-19 Vaccination
SARS-CoV-2 Human T cell Epitopes: adaptive immune response against COVID-19
https://www.cell.com/action/showPdf?pii=S1931-3128%2821%2900238-9
They’re coming for our kids.
Next phase of the propaganda –
“All students who live, learn or work in person at the University of Virginia during the next academic year must be fully vaccinated before returning to Grounds, starting July 1, UVA leaders announced in an email message Thursday.”
Top immunologist Beda Stadler on Coronavirus variants pic.twitter.com/YSDywiZwuc
— Wittgenstein (@wittgenstein78) May 22, 2021
Political comedian Jimmy Dore posted this on Twitter yesterday:
Update: Got my 2nd moderna shot 4/17/21, have had body & joint pain & general flu like symptoms ever since, most recently experiencing wicked stiff neck on same side the shot was administered. This is over a month now.
re: “Van Den Bossche has problems with Yeadon”
They’re both correct in the positions they take:
Van Den Bossche – ‘don’t vaccinate during a pandemic as this will drive mutations.’ Correct
Yeadon – ‘mutations are not significant enough to evade immunity’ CorrectThe issue is – the difference between naturally acquired immunity and gene therapy induced immunity.
My sense is that people who have been infected (knowingly or unknowingly) will have developed natural immunity and will thus be protected from the various evolving strains of Sars-Cov-2 virus. Their immune systems will have developed antibodies and T-cells that can identify many of the antigen’s epitopes.
Folks who have been jabbed will only develop partial, non-sterilising immunity, induced by epitopes solely from the S1 Spike protein, This may, in effect, lead to a compromised immune system leaving them susceptible to ADE when they encounter the virus during the next ‘flu’ season.
Just my two rupees!
I for one, am fed up with this covid bullshit!!……
How much more are we supposed to take?
I’m just going to keep living my life as a day by day existence until…
I’m bloody sick of the fear; I’ll have none of it., any more, forever………..
I’m going to live or die as ny immune system dictates…
I think my immune system is pretty damn good…
So, fuck all; life goes on until it doesn’t…
That’s it……………………….The issue is – the difference between naturally acquired immunity and gene therapy induced immunity.
Well, sort of. Phrasing it this way seems to presume you need to acquire immunity, not have it to begin with. But the vast majority of people do. If you would test people for T cells, there wouldn’t appear to be any need to vaccinate those who have sufficient.
Retry.
A couple of days ago I posted part 1 of the conversation between Tucker Carlson and Dr Peter McCullough, in part 2 McCullough states clearly that you can’t get Covid a second time.
P McC: Well, for very good grounds. Covid-recovered patients so far are racking up a terrific track record of freedom from reinfection. It’s nearly airtight. Think about SARS-CoV-1 is 80 per cent homologous to SARS-CoV-2 . . . SARS-CoV-1 and 2 are 80 per cent the same. The first SARS pandemic, people had durable and complete immunity. Seventeen years so far. You don’t get it twice. We’ve had 111million people in the world who’ve gotten this infection. If there was a chance for double and triple infections in the same person, we would have seen it by the millions. Millions. If you look in the literature, maybe you can find a hundred cases, where someone says, ‘You know, I think they got reinfected.’ And we look and almost always it’s a misinterpretation of one of these PCR tests, which is commonly false positive. (Unclear) One of the false narratives out there is you can get the infection twice. It’s a false narrative.
And the FDA and the sponsors knew that, of course, they excluded Covid-recovered patients. They know you can’t get it again. They’re not going to have them in a clinical trial and have the clinical trial go to the null. They knew that. But when it came out, I think in an air of caution, this would be the innocent explanation, air of caution. They said, ‘You know what, we’ll make it available to everybody’. But quickly making it available to everybody started to become a coercive thing.
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I think America needs to take a deep breath and understand we’re treating Covid. We’ve got it under control. It’s manageable. Let’s see some deep dives on safety. I think we need an independent data safety monitoring board to look at all the safety events being reported to the CDC. America can see them. It’s in the VAERS programme, if you go to VAERS.com, it’s right there, America can see the numbers racking up in the categories. And they ought to ask, let’s have an independent data safety monitor board, look at all the events with the eye of risk mitigation.
The idea that we’re going to roll out products and get it right the first time, how often does that happen in medicine? We always got to tweak things. Maybe there’s certain groups that shouldn’t get it. Maybe the doses are too high. Maybe the doses ought to be weight-based. There’s all kinds of things to consider.
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P McC: The Covid patients who recover, they have antibodies, they have T cell protection and innate emission. The antibodies are a pretty nice indication that you’re protected. But these T cell tests are terrific. This T cell direct test, that’s actually next generation sequencing. That is permanent protection. That’s your microbiological evidence of permanent protection.
TC: Can you get that test? Can a civilian get that test?
P McC: Somebody can go online, order it, and their medical director approves it, go to the lab and get it. No doctor needed. It’s wonderful. I think what parents ought to know is that children who are Covid-recovered, the clinical diagnosis is good enough to confer immunity. I think the big question is suspected Covid-recovered, you don’t know. You never got a test or you’re not sure. Then get the antibodies or the T cell test or both and show proof of immunity. I hope some rational thinking comes down on America to say, ‘Listen, proof of having Covid or proof of being a survivor recovered will be good enough,’ because otherwise this is getting out of control. I’ve said for these passports, people are talking about green passports, I say, ‘Why don’t you give a gold passport for the Covid-recovered? They should get first class. They can’t give it.’ Remember, the vaccines are not perfect. But that’s not even under consideration. That’s not even a public conversation.
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Germ & Ilargi
Germ, no, you’re not the target of my angst.
Ilargi…thanks, you’re correct.
Information is critical for survival; what we do with it is the key…“Only vaccinate those at risk – not the young and healthy”
Swedish docs – https://lakaruppropet.se/covidimedia/
An enthusiastic senior doctor from Uttar Pradesh explains the success of ivermectin in his state (236m people).
Covid deaths/million capita:
Uttar Pradesh 84
India 220
US 1,800
UK1,900
EU 1,600My take is they’re both right. Yeadon is right in his specialty: the vaccine itself is not safe enough, according to longstanding standards. VDB is very right in his overall theory – I can’t think of any reason to refute it – however, being a theory, it is unknown. For instance, vaccines for – not MMR, too widespread – flu vaccine e.g., did NOT breed a super-deadly unstoppable flu as far as we know, although we can see from MERSA and other hospital strains, breeding unstoppable diseases is certainly an option. I agree with VDB that I’m shocked Yeadon doesn’t immediately follow this, especially since the mind-killer usually follow faith in the unstoppable church of Progress, being on the “side of history” (there but for the grace of Science go I) and once they stop declaring all science is all good, all the time, regardless, their brains return and they become able to be critical (that is, ‘rational’) again. Somehow this hasn’t hit Yeadon, so I wonder why this is.
Since they just bend statistics for the 40th time to make it impossible to die of Covid with the vaccine, I wonder if they’ve similarly bent CV cases in South America. But it is winter down there now, whatever that means. (‘Winter’ on the sub-tropical equator?)
Fauci support: Probably people were shocked. What does it take for a guy to get discredited? Trick question: it’s impossible to be discredited in America, that requires shame. Shame is why we got rid of Christianity. Much better now, much more convenient to live without this ‘shame’ and ‘morality’ and ‘standards’ stuff, doing whatever seems best in your own eyes. You CAN be smeared though. But only if it’s from the outside and only if the basis isn’t true. Wish I were kidding. RussiaRussiaRussia. Rounding up gay people for labor camps, as the first president who supports gay marriage.
“hypersonic missiles “has changed warfare forever”. The Khinzal, …“is not interceptable”
They are shopping for a deadly miscalculation. Yes, so the U.S. has no ships that can get into space – at all – then they release an unmanned space shuttle that’s been flying up there all along, everyone must know about it, then they un-release the release and now we have no way to launch and fix satellites anymore. We’re helpless. Really? The SR-71 was decommissioned 30 years ago, but we never had it, and we never built a replacement. We’re helpless. Really? Skunk works officially has zero funding and zero projects, yet their parking lot is full every day. I guess they just go in play ping-pong and drink coffee. Really? So the U.S. is generations behind Russia, we have no hypersonic missiles, never tested them, but the day after Russia declares, we’re already loading them on planes and posting them on battlefields. I guess they’re just cardboard mock-ups. Really?
…They’re adult humans. They’re LYING. Other than suck air, that’s what they DO.
So the illusion that the U.S. is helpless, therefore China should make a violent foray, or that Russia can get away with striking back against their constant harassment is very dangerous. The military is trying very hard to goad the world into acting, into committing themselves to a war. Now the U.S. may have those hypersonic missiles with battlefield pocket nukes and even ufo gravity technology. But the dogs of war don’t go where they’re told and Russia has something too, like scalar weapons that convert naval ships into bricks. You can lose a couple of U.S. cities before somebody recalibrates. However, the generals and their more-insane masters would actively LIKE that, so the instant death of 3-5 million people is no deterrent, indeed, they regularly publish it’s much to be desired, the only answer, the final, green, solution.
Careful of this sudden miscalculation. That’s what happens when you surround nations with existential first-strike capability, refuse to talk, and act weak. …What do you THINK they must do? What does “existential” not mean to you club-headed neanderthals?
“Never fight a land war in Asia.” They’re not intending to be on the land, on the ground. They think they can take on Russia, the end of empires, with their “new war”. So did General Erich Marcks and Napoleon. It will go about as well as Afghanistan, i.e. we will lose, marking the high water of the empire, from which they relentlessly fall into ruin. As said, strangely this is said to be in Fatima, at a time so long ago the very ideas seemed impossible then. Russia? A non-communist, Christian state? I can believe in the yeti before I believe that.
Whether we can “merely” collapse into ourselves in isolation and balkanism remains to be seen. It would appear so, since Americans never wanted, have no interest in empire, or power, and have to be arm-twisted into it against every election and every national character, right and left. You can’t keep expending that effort at home and push a war too. That is not a merry end, but not final either. Also we are SUPPOSED to be Balkanized. We’re supposed to be individual, diverse, self-supporting, self-governing. It wastes a planet of effort and oil to force us to do otherwise.
“Rush Hour” is a good insight into the problems of infrastructure. It seems huge and endless, like “the commons”. However, in reality is very carefully tuned to support only one thing at only one size. If you add or remove anything – like taxpayers in New Jersey – it fails pretty spectacularly. Such is the plan for the grid, which is pretty apparent to any cro-magnon with a pebble counting tray for over 30 years. It will fail, they are warned each year, they go forward with more plans that insure it will fail. And kill everyone. See Deagel. Reminds me of Natfa. It was obvious. We told them. It happened. We tried to stop it. Everything the people said was completely true for 30 years, appearing every day each year for 30 years. They still claimed it wasn’t. The U.S. collapsed into poverty and riots, burning down cities, exactly as predicted. …They still deny it and still don’t stop, actively INCREASING it, while now jailing and putting down resistors who were completely correct on every point for decades.
…But there’s no plan. Nobody talks to anyone. Nobody knows nothing. It’s all a big accident nobody saw coming although literally everybody did and you can read the headlines about it. …For now.
“Vaccination rollout, tackling pandemics are just [a] few recent examples of the EU27 united in solidarity and purpose”
Uh, has this guy been reading the papers? Do they usually keep their leaders locked in the basement, incommunicado for 12 months? Their pandemic is according to them, the EU, a terrible embarrassing failure where everybody died. All 25M people (still waiting). They have no vaccine rollout since they’ve had both catastrophic vaccine failures where they were banned in 10 nations, and lack of doses. And there’s no unity on either as they’ve merely caused enormous protests in law-abiding Germany breaking even the most core nations in half. I’d say “mission accomplished.” If I were Russia or their arch enemy, Dr. Evil. Otherwise, “outlook not so good”.
Anyway, their incredible failures and mind-bending lack of self-awareness is hilarious. …If you don’t live there and have to deal with them. ‘Cause having your boss be a psycho, who believes you’re in league with the underwear fairies and stole the Eiffel Tower he keeps in his purse, is frankly terrifying. Apparently no no notices, as they are each equally insane.
“What Really Happened With that Weird Yankees COVID Outbreak”
Speaking of being psychotic: this news. What happened? Exactly what should happen, exactly what they said would happen, exactly as predicted would happen, exactly according to every doctor and the companies themselves. The (non)vaccine (that doesn’t change behavior and must be “boosted” every month) DOES NOT PREVENT COVID. It’s not supposed to, it never claimed to, this is a basic, written, core function. It causes you not to be HARMED when you HAVE Covid. This is not dissimilar from other (real) vaccines where you have polio vaccine, are exposed to Polio, you “get” polio, but your body fights it off effortlessly and you hardly notice. –That’s a vaccine, people. For the love on INRI and all things holy, Joseph, Mary, and the Saints give me patience. I’m not even being contrary here, this is YOUR news. The official, Fauci-on-the-mount NYTimes consensus reality.
So that someone…everyone…who has the vaccine can test positive for Covid is a GIVEN. That they’re fine and don’t go to the hospital is the only point here, and that’ s exactly what is happening. (mostly) Hey reporters: what the doctor said would happen, happened. Dog bites man. Sky is blue. Water is wet. Christmas is in December. And people who are vaccinated can be exposed and test for the disease, if you test enough.
Crazy Pills!!Shouldn’t be “RussiaRussiaRussia.” Should be “FearFearFear.” Fear is the mind killer. People are waking up, so we must MUST kill them.
“Update: Got my 2nd moderna shot 4/17/21,”
Ah Jimmy, just goes to show you can never be cynical enough. He says the basis of journalism isn’t to repeat government press releases, but assume they are lying with every release, then go do your job as a journalist and prove it. And the government said this? Along with billionaire multi-national corporations, indemnified from all liability and who pay billions in damages for deadly drugs every year but never go to jail? Ah, happens to the best of us. Because, in his position, what was he going to do? Become a Republican on national T.V.? Worse, a “far right”, suspect-everyone, Libertarian type? Those kind of changes take time and they sting. They sting lots.
Here’s their problem though: like him and pot, HRC, Biden, pro-war, anti-freedom, anti-journalist, when you do this to Dore and 45 million other Democrat/Progressives like him, then just like Assange and the Iraq war, Hunter Biden, he’s going to live out the event in public, on national T.V. talking 6 hours a day to people just like him, who were harmed by Pfizer and the government, just like him. Everyone then wakes up and you’re discredited and your power collapses. How do you dodge that? The system is screwing itself in epic, irreversible ways.
Still don’t know where the vaccine thing is going. They’ve correctly succeeded in so muddying the waters I can’t even tell.
DeFi: Hilarious. If you don’t own your private keys, you’re in a scam. No one can learn, so what do you want me to do about it?
That’s here today, with Paul “the internet is a fad and will never be used –in 1998” Krugman https://www.zerohedge.com/crypto/calling-out-willfully-ignorant
“Ethereum will move more dollars in the month of May than Venmo, PayPal, Square and Adyen combined. This is why both Visa and Mastercard are scrambling to integrate”
“MakerDAO alone is bigger than 95% of all American banks by assets”
Germ, but note that Yeadon and Van den Bossche are very critical of each other’s work. If they cannot see what you are seeing, this is problematic. (PS I enjoy your posts.)
I have no doubt that, as our elites have messed up every other domain (environment, food, finance, etc etc), they will assuredly mess up handling a pandemic and vaccination. However, it would be easier to navigate this pandemic information if folks like this were in agreement.
I liked Pole Dweller’s post the other day-summed up my feelings well- how did almost all these scientists around the world (not politicians) get on board with lockdowns and vaccines? Maybe this is too much to expect from imperfect science, but it disturbs me.“James talks to German-American lawyer Dr Reiner Fuellmich about Nuremberg 2 and why those involved in the Coronavirus scare should be tried for crimes against humanity.”
https://rumble.com/vhg4jb-dr-reiner-fuellmich-in-da-house.html
@ sumac.carol – it’s way more than disturbing.
But of course, in just a few years, Covid will be a distant memory and the horrors of the true human predicament will reveal itself.
The Digital Health Passports are most likely being implemented to manage what will soon be the mass migration of 100’s of millions of climate refugees from the ‘global south’ to cooler northern climes.
They are, in fact, already on the move.
“Ominously, methane levels reached a peak of 2901 ppb at 469 mb on May 13, 2021. ”
http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2021/05/arctic-ocean-invaded-by-hot-salty-water.htmlAdriana Caponte’s experience with her Pfizer covid vaccine on January 25, 2021 has become her worst nightmare. Her vaccine reaction landed her in ICU and she has been out of work every since.
“ My medical bills are outstanding and are now over 160K and rising. I keep on calling and appealing, but I keep getting denied. I do in fact have insurance GHI to be exact that I get from my job at NYC department of corrections so I’m having a hard to figuring out why everything is being denied left and right.”
https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-adriana-with-medical-expenses-and-treatments
This is a mainstream daily newspaper in the UK.
“We must ring fence vaccine-hesitant areas so the rest of us can live life.”
Regarding the mRNA injections:
Germ and I have agreed in recent comments that the mRNA injections cause cells in the body of the person receiving the injection to become spike protein factories. The spike protein causes damage to the inside of the blood vessels among other things and this blood vessel damage will continue to happen and only stop when the person dies. The injection does not cause immunity. But the injection does cause continuous damage to the body into which it has been injected. It will eventually kill you unless you aren’t killed by something else first.
I have supplied all of the information that I have become aware of to my parents who subsequently chose to receive the injection. At this point I have concluded that my parents are COVIDIOTS.
But I fully believe in personal freedom. Subsequently I believe in the freedom of suicide. I consider the decision to receive the vaccine a decision to suicide even if that was not the intention
“ The spike protein causes damage to the inside of the blood vessels among other things and this blood vessel damage will continue to happen and only stop when the person dies.”
I’ve been discussing this with my daughter who is a very pro-vaccine biomedical science graduate. She maintains that the affected cells only produce the spike protein for a while. Once, the immune system has identified the non-natural proteins, it produces antibodies to attack not only the spike proteins themselves, but also the cells which produce them. In a healthy person that should be within a matter of days.
I pointed her to an article Germ posted a couple of days ago in which it was stated that in a small number of people spike proteins were detected in the blood 28 days after receiving the vaccine. She was very surprised to read that and suggested that it could be due to some underlying condition or compromised immune system, but that it certainly warrants further investigation.
GVB and M Yeadon
Fascinating. It reminds me of how chicken pox worked for my youngest sister vs. the other 3 siblings. I brought home chicken pox at age 5, from school. All three kids got sick, including the baby. We three never got sick from chicken pox again. Youngest sister (#4) hadn’t been born yet. If I remember correctly, she had chicken pox three times as a kid, the first couple of times was very, very mild.Regardless, this discussion between two scientists is how science is SUPPOSED to work. Then they, and interested other scientists get to work devising means to test their theories so that we all get a deeper understanding of how the virus works and how our immune responses work. Lockstep agreement about “science” is unnatural to the scientific process (but very human, that is why science is a discipline) and one way to tell that we are being propagandized.
Absolutely nothing to see here!
“C.D.C. Is Investigating a Heart Problem in a Few Young Vaccine Recipients”
Few? Hahaha !!
Keep you eyes on this one, before it disappears down the drain!
“Outpatient Treatment of SARS-CoV-2 With Ivermectin, Fluvoxamine, and Metformin (COVID-19)”
Professor Dolores Cahill says that mRNA vaccines enhances the illness and the disease.
I just wish she’d wipe that grin off her face.
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Yeadon <-> V. D. Bossche
Oh Man, that is all that was needed to confuse things further and cheeze ppl off – Contra-da-mainstream-BS figures like Bossche and Yeadon, quarelling in public!
They are not experienced in messaging, in politicking, in influencing, and are filled with ego-hubris, even to the point of adopting a kind of missionary role.
Not that I blame them for it in any way, as an outsider that role is practically imposed, is almost impossible to escape. Both are essential figures worthy of attention, and are brave. (The PTB I suspect counts on these kinds of snarls.)
They should just do a Zoomie, or meet in Amsterdam, (ha ha) and agree to an agenda of (say) 10 points, both stating, we disagree on ‘some stuff’, science evolves, moves (heh assumed is forward but backwards happens too) others can be discussed.
Meanwhile, the 10 points listing the essentials, on their position re. the vaxxes could be:
Until more data comes in and more thorough, clever analysis / different theoretical approaches are compared (1) .. Vaxxes are useless, they don’t shield, protect, and may even be dangerous, in that .. (low level expl.)
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1. The data is shoddy, unreliable, corrupted and not useful in any case, another problem…
From Germ’s comment “ “What Really Happened With that Weird Yankees COVID Outbreak”” — this is a really good, lay person explanation of GVB — M Yeadon
<<Which means there’s no motivation for it to evolve, right?
<<Right. And so if you already have an antibody response — because you’ve been vaccinated or you’ve been previously infected — in that case maybe the virus is only able to grow to a million titers instead of a billion … Well, those million viral particles per ml are each bumping into your already-existing antibodies, so there is actually something for them to try to learn how to evade. That’s when, theoretically, you would see the most likely scenario for immune evasion and mutation that would improve the virus’s fitness against immunity — specifically in those people who have already been vaccinated or infected and who are getting re-exposed and reinfected.<<That’s the theoretical piece. But you have to layer on top of it community transmission. And if through vaccination you can drop everyone’s viral loads and transmissibility by 90 percent, then overall you should expect at a community level to have just many fewer infections. And so that should hopefully balance out that potential increase of evolutionary capacity. In other words, they’re really competing forces — do you want no immunity, and to just keep having viruses transmit unabated, or do you want to have immunity, giving the virus something to learn from, but overall have it happen in many, many fewer people? We don’t really know which exact way it balances out.>>
Villagers jump into river to avoid Covid-19 vaccination in Uttar Pradesh
The health officials at a village in Uttar Pradesh were taken aback when people, on seeing them, fled their homes and ran towards a nearby river. They even jumped into the river, when the officials reached the river bank.
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