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      • What Assange Charges Could Mean For Press Freedom (Jonathan Turley) • A Threat to the Press and the American People (IC) • Professional #Assa
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle May 25 2019]

    #47554
    Dr. D
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    “may have triggered the most important press freedom case in the US in 300 years.”

    We’ve not gone anywhere yet. Imagine what happens if the Supreme Court upholds the Constitution for a change. …Which seems an easy call, but hey, there were 20 ways Obamacare was illegal, primarily that it is not a Federal function under the 10th, and that got through.

    P.S., you can’t be a spy when you’re not the one doing the hacking, but exclusively the publicizing. Because…a spy everybody knows? On the front page each month? Not much of a spy, is he?

    Note, at the same time, we may get a forewarning if pushing through Sweden forces them to drop smears and charges and reclaim his innocence. But they’ll call it an accident or legal error, watch. Doesn’t matter so long as he’s cleared.

    “WikiLeaks “repeatedly sought, obtained, and disseminated information”

    You mean like a journalist should? Like they would have if Clinton hadn’t stopped publishing anti-trust and pushed all media into 6 billionaire hands? Like that?

    “help a hostile foreign government interfere in our election”

    Because: not a journalist. This has never been proven, not even substantiated. Yet she can smear the one man who can prove it, and although he says it publicly, Maddow knows better, having never been there, and interviewed nobody. I’ve got an idea: the eyewitness has told you something; let’s believe him until we have evidence otherwise. Oh, and P.S., ALSO like a journalist, let’s believe the government is lying until proven otherwise. Safe bet.

    “Violence is the sole language of empire.”

    Well no, that’s why empires work, because they use other means; violence is always too expensive. But it’s a disturbing overtone that infects back home.

    “A war machine which targeted and killed civilians and journalists by soldiers behind a glowing screen thousands of miles away, as if they were playing a video game.”

    Don’t worry, they kill civilians here too, in person, and don’t care either. No one’s been charged; no one goes to jail. You could watch the bodycam footage all day. The fact he can say this and not recognize it shows how he’s been indoctrinated too.

    “Trump Wants Investigation Into Australia’s Role In ‘Russian Hoax’ (G.)”

    This is deep in Britain’s now-open election rigging via Five Eyes. Also the various trips by the ex-admin HRC and Obama to NZ to take that back-door look into the FBI investigations and their pals’ work, before their security clearances were revoked. (And still now, most are not. Obama and Kerry have moved on to illegally negotiating with foreign nations on behalf of the U.S. in Palestine, Iran, and Korea. Busy beavers.) But no. Although we have an encyclopedia of evidence it was Britain MI6 back-to-front, it’s RussiaRussiaRussia, every day still. Discredited? Nonsense. We just say it again. And Again. And Again. Forever and ever and ever and ever.

    “Trump Declares Emergency To Expedite Arms Sales To Saudi Arabia And UAE (CNN)”

    Ugh. But do remember the minute we stop with violent, regressive, oppressive S.A., the Petrodollar and US$ will fall. You want that now? This minute? Or later? I mean, your choice. Personally, I’d bet on Turkey taking down Spain, then the EU with contagion. China’s right behind, far worse, but under dramatic power and control. But it’s all about where you place the blame. For the record, I WOULD cut off S.A. Fiat justitia ruat caelum.

    Not only 3’ snow in Saudi Arabia, too cold and wet to plant in Ontario, snowing in Corsica, it’s so cold in Bulgaria that they are taking Storks indoors and feeding them fish to carry them over. And it’s June. It’s cold-warm, or warm-cold, and all this snow means warming, and the record water in CA and AZ means drought, just as always predicted.

    #47555
    zerosum
    Participant

    @ Dr. D
    You forgot to mention the USA corn belt.
    Corn is cow food and car gas.
    Maybe …. there will be a shortage that will cause a price increase?
    Maybe …. they will just increase the price and go for an extra vacation.
    Maybe …. they will collect the billions of subsidies because of China tariff war
    Maybe …. the customers will not be able to pay for any increase in prices
    Maybe …. the disaster relief $ will be enough to make everyone “whole”
    Maybe …. the shit that hit the fan for your neighbor is fertilizer coming your way.

    Like I said, yesterday, I expect my garden to be less productive.
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    Using a picture of Assange looking like a captured terrorist does not help his image as a fighter for truth.

    #47556

    Using a picture of Assange looking like a captured terrorist does not help his image as a fighter for truth.

    Make sure you grab him when he looks worst. Surely went through their heads.

    #47557
    zerosum
    Participant

    Make sure you grab him when he looks worst. Surely went through their heads

    True.

    Therefore, what is the real agenda of MSNBC and others for using those pictures?
    Their motives are clear, (to me), and they have all kind of experts that can and do “gate keeping” before going to print.

    #47558
    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    And the daily coating of teflon for the Donald by TAE arrives on schedule. Only one person can activate emergency powers to sell arms to S.A. without congressional review, and that is the president. And yet the posting comment is “Empire.” The last two instances of “the emergency” were just prior to going to war in the M.E. Individuals start wars for the sake of Empire. Not vice versa!

    From Dr. D… “Ugh. But do remember the minute we stop with violent, regressive, oppressive S.A., the Petrodollar and US$ will fall. You want that now? This minute? Or later? I mean, your choice.” Not saying you’re wrong! And yet U.S. export volume of refined petroleum products including gasoline are at all time highs even though U.S. demand is also high. Corporate empire/greed is transnational. They buy the politics/weapons they need/sell. One hand washing, you know!

    Who’s judiciary is it that is invoking the espionage act to indict Assange? Obama’s declined to bring charges for the very reason of first amendment issues.

    As to Kunstler: One of the posters in his comment section said it the other day. Ya gotta be getting paid to write this crap!

    #47559
    zerosum
    Participant

    Compare truthdig article/pictures with MSNBC

    Daniel Ellsberg: Julian Assange’s Espionage Charges Are a Travesty

    Joining me now to discuss the Assange indictment is Daniel Ellsberg. Daniel is a former U.S. military analyst employed by the RAND Corporation who became famous in 1971 when he released the Pentagon papers. The papers revealed top secret Pentagon study of U.S. government decision making about the Vietnam War.

    #47560

    Got to have your own personal troll. How else do you establish your value to the community? I have never defended or supported Trump, but I have since 2016 attacked those who attacked him through fictional stories, NYT, Maddow, CNN. Guilty as charged on that one. The MSM might as well have been working for Trump for all they have achieved. And that was always perfectly predictable.

    I’m on record multiple times saying I would never defend Trump but will always defend Assange. People need to learn how to read. But it’s not my responsibility that they actually do. I can only provide them with the material.

    #47561
    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    First of all, I’ve been reading TAE many years before the advent of the Donald and have always lauded your website to people I know. It’s been my go to site with my morning coffee since early in its inception. I even kept reading the articles you claim are attacking the attackers that are telling lies. You are the balance as you like to say. I didn’t start commenting until fairly recently. I’ve pointed out time and again how factually incorrect the thrust of what your post is when you use sources like RT and Sputnik News, to mention just a couple. They write things, that while to a casual observer would appear to be true, the actual source content is often originally diametrically the opposite. If that makes me a troll so be it. Consider me the balance to the balance.

    You’ve commented how some of your personal friends have communicated to you that you appear to be a Trump supporter and said, if they think that then you can see how others might think so too. You continually come down on Trump’s side (seriously, no matter what it is) and everyone else is a liar. You post things that the Executive Branch is doing that you oppose (as do I often) and call it the U.S., or Empire, or it’s one of Trumps underlings, but never criticize him.

    Just because there isn’t enough “evidence” to indict a criminal conspiracy (ie. conspire to commit a crime together) doesn’t mean that (per the Mueller report) the Trump organization wasn’t highly receptive to what the Russians had to offer. “I love it!” Per D. Trump Jr. The criminal always knows the crime better than the investigators. Which is why Trump tried to obstruct the investigation, he knew he was guilty. And, per the M. investigation, If we thought Trump hadn’t obstructed justice we would have said so. Anyway, I’m done.

    If you see that I am no longer posting, your site will have taken up residence with Kunstler’s and I’ll have gone the way of MoFlora.

    P.S. Dump Dr. D and get Nicole back.

    Peace out

    #47562
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    People need to learn how to read. But it’s not my responsibility that they actually do. I can only provide them with the material.

    Bingo! A good number of peoples’ reading comprehension just plain sucks.
    Your commenters are generally pretty good, but then…

    #47573
    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    Oh Please!

    #47574
    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    Just because someone says it doesn’t make it so! Like just for instance, Trump is a highly stable genius.

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