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    Vincent van Gogh Memory of the Garden at Etten (Ladies of Arles) 1888   • Iraq Was The Graveyard Of American Ambition (Lukyanov) • Gonzalo Lira A
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle May 6 2023]

    #134717
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “National Police Association And Other Groups Sue To Obtain Audrey Hale Manifesto”

    You’ve officially piqued my interest: what the heck could be in there? “I wanna kill people?” Newsflash: we know. Violate all normal rules, the FBI puts it on lockdown, the locals reverse and refuse to release it, people then sue as they must suspect something is in it. Like the Mayor or Tony Blinken asked her to do it, on direct orders from Garland and Wray? As the secret love child of Nancy Pelosi and Donald Trump? What? What could possibly be in there? Crikey.

    “AOC And Matt Gaetz Team Up To Ban Lawmakers From Trading Stocks”

    Pick on AOC, but there are two admirable things here. One, she wants to ban insider trading and special privileges, as we all do, and is 90% democratically supported. But two, she is willing to cross the aisle to get things done, like a Congressman and adult. I thought she was beyond that, so I’m glad to be wrong.

    Tucker: That’s not radical, that’s exactly what Chick Schumer said 6 years ago: The Intel Agencies are running the Congress(men). Is Chuck Schumer a liar? Believe him if he tells you. Same with Time Magazine printing that they, a group of oligarchs, interests, and billionaires, threw the 2020 Presidential Election. Is Time Magazine lying?

    $50 Trillion Climate. As said, this has been floated before. Key point: they don’t care what the money is used for, or what excuse it’s created. They have a debt-compounding they are slaves to, and if it cracks, all their power vanishes. They said war. They said world government. They said Climate. They said transforming energy. They’ve said disease. They’ve said racism. Truth is: they just don’t care. It’s not the point, never has been, so don’t get distracted. That’s why the guy not only doesn’t know, he doesn’t even care that he doesn’t know, isn’t bothered or embarrassed in the least.

    It’s not about warming, it’s about POWER. Power-over, because if it was innate, organic power you deserved, it would happen naturally without any fuss.

    “The American invasion of Iraq was both the apotheosis of post-Cold War American expansionism”

    Speaking of needing to print money and control the runaway debt-compounding downfall. The war had nothing to do with it. Remember: we could have BOUGHT all of Saddam’s oil for like 25% of the cost of the war. They know that. They’re evil but they’re not stupid.

    “suspecting him of pro-Russian sympathies.”

    We’ve had a lot of nominations in the last 12 months, but that has GOT to be the understatement of the year. Wondered where he went.

    He blamed the US outlet Daily Beast for directing Kiev’s attention to his work,”

    Well that was true, Daily Beast was actively trying to murder him – a common and socially lauded goal on that side – but not this time. I thought he had protection, which is why he was careless. We’ll see. Otherwise inexplicable, they will murder him in seconds.

    “The anger and hatred towards Russia with which Washington acts in a situation in which it frankly should think of its own safety, is inexplicable..”

    Many, including Greg Hunter again point out that “do they want Russia to bomb Washington?” (A: Yes!!! Very, very much) But at a deeper level, it’s merely a symptom of being deeply mentally ill. As those people, but also the nation behind them. We are immersed in irreality, incapable of rational thought. What do you do with a mentally-ill opponent? Suppose you were in a bar fight? They are both far more dangerous, and less, and both, than if they were just exchanging fists.

    ““If the EU were in a position to have its own opinion, it would not be in the situation it is in today..”

    Sort of. But if the American people had leaders representing their goals, interests and desires, it wouldn’t be either. That is: both the US and EU are not democracies. They are therefore run by a minority “oligarchy” without being too specific or requiring them to be monied interests. So the EU is not following the US: both are following the monied oligarchic interests, that is to say, Davos et al., the globalists. Who openly say so, though no one believes them. Why is Davos de facto merged with the homeland of Ukraine? Why not ask them? Or read their papers and they’ll tell you. Just be mildly literate, and discerning.

    “Wagner is an attack force, not a defense one. And the attacking work is done.”

    Noted this in comments on the other article yesterday.

    “• Ukraine Brings 400-600 Troops To Bakhmut Every Day – Prigozhin (TASS)”

    War being a good job for psychopaths, this is actually winning, the Army doing what it is supposed to. That’s 220,000 murders/year, exactly on target. Ukraine has ceased to exist, which is Biden’s personal dream and goal.

    “MC Barack Obama..”

    I’m always bemused and confused when I read this. Obama didn’t run anything even when he was there. He was clearly always a CIA asset, as was his mother before him, and all the people around him all his life. So if you mean “Them” then sure – but we already knew that. If you mean him personally, I doubt it, even in day to day management of anything. For one thing, he’s been too quiet and stays that way. His unusual comments recently indicated nothing of this sort. He doesn’t run anything: the government, that is the standing bureaucracy, always becomes the enemy of the citizens and runs the country to suit itself at the peoples’ expense and ruin. There is a more pointed committee with big CIA representation at the top, but you don’t need much more.

    “New Disinformation Office To Oversee All The Other Ones (IC)

    Like we needed a second government to oversee the first government. Or how DHS worked so well in overseeing all the other departments of redundancy. …Oh, wait…

    “The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media.” —William Colby, Former CIA Director

    He says it openly, so is he a liar? Should we not believe him? I guess not, because my feelz. I believe him on command, and I don’t believe him on command. I know ahead of time which is which. Whichever covers up for incestuous, alcoholic daddy, that is the new truth. That’s why it seamlessly changes minute to minute.

    “increase of the prison population from 82,000 to 106,000 within the next four years.”

    Sadly, England is looking downright free compared to the new laws being passed in the Republic of Ireland. I guess that figures. Neither Ireland nor Scotland can ever get their act together and behave right, which is why they’ve been losing for centuries. Doesn’t make me happy to say it.

    #134719
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “but your assertion that Nazis were on the political left flies in the face of documented history”
    “the political monster we know as totalitarianism can burst into the scene from EITHER end of the political spectrum.”

    I followed the links you provided. This is what they said: “The [Nazi] party was created to draw workers away from communism and into völkisch nationalism.[14] Initially, Nazi political strategy focused on anti–big business, anti-bourgeois, and anti-capitalist rhetoric,” — Wikipedia.

    Let’s see: from the get-go, day one. 1) Anti-business. 2) Anti, or hatred of the middle class. 3) Directly and openly Anti-Capitalist. Any questions?

    The original Party is “The German Workers’ Party, Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, DAP, a historical footnote, but what were they from, who was their base? “Workers”, not business, not businessmen, not corporations, not Church, not Government, not Army. Workers. How are they from the “Right” if their basis is the basis and foundation of the “Left” i.e. the Workers, ie Working-class, ie the Unions? Do they not know what words mean? Did they not know what “workers” are? This continued seamlessly as they became the NSDAP.

    They immediately issued a 25-point plan. What was in the Plan? “the 25-point Program was pro-labour: “[T]he program championed the right to employment, and called for the institution of profit sharing, confiscation of war profits, prosecution of usurers and profiteers, nationalization of trusts, communalization of department stores,” –Wikipedia

    1) Worker’s Rights and Interests. Pro-Union, from a Union origin.
    2) Profit-sharing, that is, a form of the Corporations being Owned by the Workers.
    3) Confiscation and redistribution of wealth.
    4) Prosecution of any opposition to this redistribution of wealth to the Workers.
    4a) This requires a powerful Central State.
    5) Nationalization, that is to say, “The State owns the means of production”.
    6) Broad “Communalization” of retail, corporations, being redistribution to the People. If the language above wasn’t clear enough as to their origins and goals.

    I’m lost as to where the Far-“Right” is here.

    Again, these definitions are extremely archaic, as I know better than anyone. The “Left” is the Left side of the aisle of the French Assembly, 1789, who are the Progressives, reformers, and democrats in the sense of Democracy. The “Right” is the Right side of the French Assembly, who represented the traditional King, Nobility, and his agents of State such as army, policemen, tax collectors, etc. However, projecting France’s feudal structure onto other times and nations makes essentially no logic for more reasons than we can count. “The People”, i.e. the Left, should be democratic and anti-State, however in practice from that very day, they were not. They were a competing State, if anything, more tyrannical than the French nobility would dream or dare. God knows how that happened, and no one knew you could GET worse than the French nobility of 1789, but Robespierre said “hold my beer.” So the Left from Day One are Statists. And the Right from Day One are Statists.

    The definition evolves over time, but we’ve grown up with a definition of the “Left” as being people/worker-oriented, but leaning toward Unions and Socialism, as opposed the Right, which is the party or leaning of the Status Quo, and existing government, and over here of business, because as a legacy and persistence of vision, the government of around 1900 was generally Capitalist, Property Rights, and non-redistribution except for corruption, and that evolved quite slowly.

    It is plausible that if the DAP, or NSDAP supported the German Status Quo, possibly the return of the Monarchy, and the Long-term values of Germany which include industry, property rights, the middle class, armies and borders, they would indeed be “Right” or even “Far Right” (definition to be determined but perhaps adding the potential of violence as a political means?) But they didn’t. They supported the #Opposite of these 500-year things. No Kings, but Democratic process. As they just had a King, this is a strong mark of #Progressives, not Conservatives. They are against property rights, clearly and in several ways. They are Pro-government, but as we saw, the Left was radically Pro-government and Pro-tyranny by definition from Day One as well. They are Anti-Stability (meaning they want fast, radical change) and openly anti Middle Class. That is to say, they are textbook Progressives, Reformers, and since they want nationalization, State ownership, and redistribution, they are textbook Socialists. Which is EXACTLY THEIR NAME.

    And they say so openly, both – again, by Name, the “National Socialist German Workers‘ Party” – and by every action, including their original 25-point plan, but following, every day of their reign, of capturing all “Means of Production” on behalf of the State. Then redistributing it. According to Party affiliation and not by merit or money. This is EXACTLY what they did. All assets were owned by the State. Only the State distributed them. (according to Party affiliation, exactly as the USSR)

    There could hardly BE a more textbook example of Socialist Theory and action than this. They weren’t even hiding it. So why are YOU hiding it?

    Again, for us, Americans in 2023, what is the “Far Right”? It may be many things in Europe, or in History, but presently Americans who are considered “Far Right” are the #Opposite of all historical norms and definitions of the “Right”. And this is indeed confusing. The (American) “Right” are ANTI-government. That’s the #Opposite of all “Far-Right” in all history, in all places, since Day One. Why? Besides being Revolutionary and therefore not #Reactionary, our American Status Quo is the CONSTITUTION, which delineates Small, limited, government. So strangely being “Pro-American”, chauvinist, is to be AGAINST the American government, or at least its enlargement and empowerment in almost any way. But it would also be for the support of there still being such a government. And being a nation, with a process, a legislature, a court system, a border, and a viable defense. So “Far Right” is not for the radical, reactionary elimination of these things either. Nor does it espouse or condone violent #means. I don’t know what other countries do, I presume in England, eg, the “Far Right” would give the whole nation and all power to Charles III to bash heads and sort it out in a fortnight, but that is literally the #Opposite of the “Right” in America. Far-Right here mean Libertarian, leave alone, limited government, and agnostic on social issues. (that is, we may not care for you or your ways, but neither are we going to arrest you for being a dumb-*ss either)

    But as no one knows history, and all words have no meaning, even when referred to a dictionary, it hardly matters. “Left” or “Right” means “I don’t like you,” … but I’m also thoughtless and lazy, can’t be bothered with words, that’s all. It may indeed be a fool’s game to use the words specifically and correctly as I do, who knows? But I haven’t given up on my language and my country yet, and am forced to tell truths, not lies about it. To me that remains the only way out, to restoring our sanity, as a form of therapy.

    Above: “Nazi” could hardly be more communist if you took a blank piece of paper and created them from scratch as a alternate-reality TV show like “High Tower”. Even Wikipedia, which is extremely biased and pretty-far Left themselves support those facts without hesitation.

    I’m going to have to stand with my definition, which as JB says, is extremely relevant right now, as the Left SAYS – with their mouths, on TV, every day for 20 years – that they are openly Socialist, their highest Leader, Sanders is openly Socialist, who adored the USSR and honeymooned there, their other high leader AOC is an open, public card-carrying, dues-paying “Democratic Socialist”, and wishes the DNC would follow, while the Party as it stands lists every Socialist platform – like the 25 point plan – as their express and public goals for the country. (many of these goals are quietly supported by the GOP as well, but note: “quietly’.) As those Plans and Platforms, which are very public and open are 1) Against everything the United States stands for, both in spirit and in law and 2) they are very open in supporting the use of violence to attain them, as Radicals, Revolutionaries, or aka Progressives, I must therefore oppose them. And to oppose them I must name them, in their own words and actions, doing no more than to cut-paste their own words, actions, beliefs, and goals, accurately, but without apology.

    That action is EXTREMELY MILD, and not radical in the slightest. In fact, it’s the least, laziest action possible. It has not a whiff of violence such as finding, removing, unemploying, arresting, or harming anyone of them, at any time, for any (non legal, non-due-process) reason. This is the direct #Opposite of what they say for us, but America isn’t refreshed by destroying all her institutions, “burning it all down”. Only be recovering and restoring her original spirit and goals of equal opportunity and equal justice under the law.

    #134720
    Oroboros
    Participant

    “Jungle Josep” Borrell is not a diplomat. Diplomacy is alien to him

    Borrell asserting that Europe was ‘a garden’ and that all outside were in a ‘jungle’

    His implied subtext was that the Global South were ‘jungle bunnies’

    Nice

    Where were the Woketurd mobs screaming for his head on a stick as a racist pig?

    Crickets

    Here is a perfect visual metaphor of the Collective West Garden and the Empire of Lies Gangster Nation® and where they are headed.

    Be All That You Can Be

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    Like a Bud-Lite ad, here’s to you “Jungle Josep”

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    #134724
    Oroboros
    Participant

    “My guess is that the nominal leader of this underworld in the USA — more like a master-of-ceremonies than an actual director — is Barack Obama..”

    Obomber, the Oreo mafioso

    Black on the outside, white on the inside

    Mass murderer

    The quintessential coward and ‘gangsta’ from the hood of Martha’s Vineyard, hiding in the shadows, perfecting treason and chaos proving he’s not one of Borrell’s jungle bunnies, he’s a “Professor of Constitutional Law”

    “Obama’s “teaching career” at Chicago was, to put it kindly, a sham.

    …… the highest tenured faculty member at Chicago Law did not have many nice things to say about “Barry.” Obama applied for a position as an adjunct and wasn’t even considered. A few weeks later the law school got a phone call from the Board of Trustees telling them to find him an office, put him on the payroll, and give him a class to teach. The Board told him he didn’t have to be a member of the faculty, but they needed to give him a temporary position. He was never a professor and was hardly an adjunct.

    The other professors hated him because he was lazy, unqualified, never attended any of the faculty meetings, and it was clear that the position was nothing more than a political stepping stool. According to my professor friend, he had the lowest intellectual capacity in the building. He also doubted whether he was legitimately an editor on the Harvard Law Review, because if he was, he would be the first and only editor of an Ivy League law review to never be published while in school (publication is or was a requirement).”

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    #134725
    zerosum
    Participant

    Power …. Depopulation tools have been used before the beginning of written history by social/economic/political leaders.

    #134727
    Oroboros
    Participant

    “The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

    It is it’s natural manure.”

    ~Tom Jefferson

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    #134729

    Name me just one other country that would put a crown on a horse’s head

    #134730

    Name me just one other country that would put a crown on a horse’s head

    #134732
    anticlimactic
    Participant

    50 trillion dollars to achieve ‘zero carbon’ in the US. As implied there is no evidence that it will make any difference – it is just a religious belief among a certain set of people, mainly based on ignorance. The UN estimates 130+ trillion dollars is needed to ‘stop climate change’ globally.

    Let’s assume it all happens and it all works – it succeeds.

    Most of those trillions will be spent on the fossil fuels needed to open mines, excavate refine and transport raw materials, plus manufacturing and installing the finished items.

    The biggest problem is that ‘renewables’ rarely have a lifespan of more than 25 years. Most of the infrastructure will need replacing every 20+ years!

    The next big problem is that ‘renewables’ are difficult to recycle. Fibreglass and carbon fibre will go straight to landfill. Worn out turbine blades already go to landfill. Solar panels will go to landfill, I am not sure if even the silver and other metals can be economically recovered from solar panels. There seems to be issues recycling lithium from car batteries, it seems feasible but not economic. More landfill!

    This means there will be a large demand for fresh raw materials, which again will mostly rely on fossil fuels. If this disaster goes ahead I can see a time when ALL fossil fuels will be dedicated to creating an inferior energy grid.

    Although it is ‘saving the planet’ I have never heard of any project being done on a ‘not for profit’ basis. There will be lots of smug millionaires and billionaires who truly believe they are being ‘virtuous’.

    It is probably more feasible to continue with the current project of reducing the global population down to under a billion.

    #134735
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Dr. D…
    Your premise about the nature of the pre-Nazi party is based on the idea that it was functioning along the lines that we are familiar with in our own history…and this is not what was going on at that time and place.

    Hannah Arendt, Origins of Totalitarianism, p. 259-264 “new edition with added prefaces”
    There are no movements without hatred of the state, and this was virtually unknown to the German Pan-Germans in the relative stability of prewar Germany. The movements originated in Austria-Hungary, where hatred of the state was an expression of patriotism for the oppressed nationalities and where the parties–with the exception of the Social Democratic Party (next to the Christian-Social Party the only one sincerely loyal to Austria)–were formed along national, and not along class lines. This was possible because economic and national interests were almost identical here and bcause economic and social status depended largely on nationality; nationalism, therefore, which had been a unifying force in the nation-states, here became at once a principle of internal disruption, which resulted in a decisive difference in the structure of the parties as compared with those of other nation-states. What held together the members of the parties in multinational Austria-Hungary was not a particular interest…or a particular principle for organized action as in the Anglo-Saxon [my aside: that is the type of political party we are most familiar with, being English speakers primarily], but chiefly the sentiment of belonging to the same nationality…. The [European] pan-movements…transform[ed] parties into movements and by discovering that form of organization…could change its policy from day to day without harm to its membership. Long before Nazism proudly pronounced that though it had a program it did not need one, Pan-Germanism discovered how much more important for mass appeal a general mood was than laid-down outlines and platforms. For the only thing that counts in a movement is precisely that it keeps itself in constant movement. The Nazis, therefore, used to refer to the fourteen years of the the Weimar Republic as the “time of the System”…the implication being that this time was sterile, lacked dynamism, did not “move,” and was followed by their “era of the movement.”

    The pan-movements’ hostility to the party system acquired practical significance when, after the first World War, the party system ceased to be a working device and the class system of European society broke down under the weight of the growing masses entirely declassed by events. What came to the fore then were no longer mere pan-movements, but their totalitarian successors, which in a few years determined the politics of all other parties ot such a degree that they became either anti-Fascist or anti-Bolshevik or both. By this negative approach seemingly forced upon them from the outside, the older parties showed clearly that they too were no longer able to function as representatives of specific class interests but had become mere defenders of the status quo….
    …the more class-conscious its [i.e. a country’s] people had been, the more dramatic and dangerous was this breakdown [of the class system].
    This was the situation between the two wars when every movment had a greater chance than any party because the movement attacked the instituttion of the state and did not appeal to the classes. Fascism and Nazism always bosasted that their hatred was directed not against individual classes, but the class system as such, which they denounced as an invention of Marxism. Even more significant was the fact that the Communists also, notwithstanding their Marxist ideaology, had to abandon the rigidity of their class appeal when, after 1935, under the pretext of enlarging their mass base, they formed Popular Fronts everywhere and began to appeal to the same growing masses outside all class strata which up to then had been the natural prey to the Fascist movements….
    The breakdown of the European party system occurred in a spectacular way with Hitler’s rise to power. It is now often conveniently forgotten that at the moment of the outbreak of the second World War, the majority of European countries had already adopted some form of dictatorship and discarded the party system, and that this revolutionary change in government had been effected in most countries without revolutionary upheaval….
    Different in appearance but much more violent in reality was the breakdown of the party system in pre-Hitler Germany. This came into the open during the last presidential elections in 1932….
    …(Hitler for the Nazis, and Thalmann for the Communists), it was rather surprising to see that all other parties could suddenly agree upon one candidate.

    I had to do some elisions for brevity…Arendt’s writing is so full of clauses that it is really easy to get sidetracked and lost. Feel free to look up the original.
    On its face: last presidentail election in pre-Hitler Germany was between the Nazis, the Communists, and “all other parties” — and a perusal of the names and platforms of “all other parties” suggests that nearly all of them would have been considered “on the left” based upon the definition of “the left” given by Dr. D. At that point, the divisions between “right” and “left” would have to be determined by something other than merely the official party platforms…and perhaps “right” and “left” just were not very apt explanations of what was going on politically at the time in Germany and Europe generally.

    Arendt suggests that classism had broken down in Europe generally in this time (because of the vast number of internally displaced people, which was due to centuries of colonialism and the first world war), and of course we are somwhat familiar with the struggles of Weimar Germany, the poverty and crazy inflation, etc.

    #134736
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    We are witnessing final battle between good and evil., with the ‘leadership’ of Oceania-NATOstan firmly standing on the side of evil.

    The criminals who are in control of ‘the western world’ need to protect and promote their criminal schemes.

    Therefore:

    the Oceania-NATOstan military-industrial complex will continue to siphon resources and fake money into unwinnable wars.

    the Oceania-NATOstan Medical Mafia will continue to promote sickness and costly ‘remedies’.

    the Ocenia-NATOstan ‘Net Zero’ scam will be promoted, and precious, rapidly declining resources will be squandered promoting it.

    within Oceania-NATOstan the ultimate goal of converting the bulk of the populace into ‘peasants’ who cannot buy or sell or provide for themselves or even think for themselves will be pursued via censorship and lies and tyranny until the entire Oceania-NATOstan system breaks as a direct consequence of ineptitude, fakery and counter-productive policies, or is destroyed by Russia, China, Iran.etc.

    #134737
    Celticbiker
    Participant

    If you reside in the USA, the strange and seemingly unknown enemy is your own government. Dead or enslaved, pick your poison. Kennedy, 911, covid, wake up.

    #134738
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Hannah Arendt, darling of the Marxists. The Marxists rolled out Arendt as the guru to provide guidance as to how Trump’s gang should be punished https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/12/23/what-hannah-arendt-would-do-about-trumps-former-bureaucrats/ and now phoenixvoice does the same. How can I not believe that phoenixvoice really does support the Marxists and I assume also the goals of the Marxist woke movement. Interesting.

    #134739
    citizenx
    Participant

    Name me just one other country that would put a crown on a horse’s head

    Ukraine.

    Horses Ass or head ?

    horse’s ass
    noun
    A jerk; an unpleasant, unlikable person; an asshole.

    #134740
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    @celticbiker

    If you reside in the USA, the strange and seemingly unknown enemy is your own government. Dead or enslaved, pick your poison. Kennedy, 911, covid, wake up.

    This is an erroneous statement.

    The strange and seemingly unknown enemy is actually the electorate themselves, due to a combination of ignorant folly combined with non-individualistic herd madness…

    Very few understand *the source* of tyrannical power + growth of anti-American ideological power (.GOV first, We The People second at best) but here it is:

    EMERGENCY POWERS.

    As a result of ninety years of EMERGENCY POWERS, which very few are aware even exists, and even fewer know where/when/why they were established, the U$.gov has grown into an out-of-control behemoth, a self-reinforcing juggernaut that has morphed the banking, military & corporate spheres of America into a speculative Armageddon at the expense of We The People, now humanity as a whole, who are both cannon fodder & feudal serfs indentured to feed the EMERGENCY POWERS BEAST.

    There is no Left/Right paradigm in America, only ideological whores that ride the EMERGENCY POWERS BEAST, finding ever new ways to feed it’s insatiable appetite for growth, grabbing as many crumbs that fall off the table as their grubby mitts can hoard away…

    Debt ceiling? No problemo Jose…

    Bigger .MIL budget(s)? Let’s start/plan another war…

    TBTF? Here’s some freshly minted *free* credits…

    Populist revolt? Turn loose the pressitudes on those peasants…

    If the Plandemic didn’t wake up the electorate, whose votes probably barely count(ed) post 2016 anyways, does anyone actually still believe that the comatose patent(s) on life-support will actually recover, *right* themselves & grasp what freakin’ zip code they’re actually trapped within? 🙄

    Some of us spent every waking moment 25+ years ago trying to warn We The People, concerning the apparatchiks wanton addiction to EMERGENCY POWERS that could/would suck humanity into another Dark Ages Black Hole, but the opiate of the masses (ie the DnC/GOP con artist circus/religion + entertainment MSM), was already too firmly in control of their hearts, minds & souls…

    My final question following my exit in of the quest 1996 (i.e. to rescind EMERGENCY POWERS, thus restoring NATURAL LAW), was this:

    Were We The People brainwashed?

    Or did We The People brainwash themselves & their progeny?

    If brainwashing actually happened, how many generations following the mental persuasion/conversion would it take before We The People forget enmasse that the whole CULTure was propagandized to believe/follow a lie?

    What are the three types of brainwashing?

    The three phases of brainwashing are dependency, dissonance, and attitude change.

    Brainwashing is said to reduce its subject’s ability to think critically or independently, to allow the introduction of new, unwanted thoughts and ideas into their minds,[1] as well as to change their attitudes, values, and beliefs


    @dr-d

    Only be recovering and restoring her original spirit and goals of equal opportunity and equal justice under the law.

    Do you honestly think “recovery & restoration” is still possible at this late stage of the *game”?

    Asking for a friend…

    #134741
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    Parting is such sweet sorrow…

    #134742
    citizenx
    Participant

    Where Did All The “Trust the Science” People Go?

    Jumped to I can’t define a woman based on science or Climate is changing pseudo science? Take your pick. I’m surrounded by these “trust our consensus reality pseudo science” liars. They’re still wearing masks, still true believer cultists just waiting for their next opportunity to be little Hitlers. All of them acting like the discrimination never happened. Call them out and their fragile little brains break right in front of you. Scum cowards.

    This aged well from 12.24.2021 – Trump praising the fake vax, CNN cultists fawning over Trumps Vax-

    See Trump shut down Covid-19 vaccine skeptic

    Granted Trump did not go full retard like the Dims… mandating and torturing their own fellow citizens.
    Safe? NO
    Effective? NO
    Necessary? NO

    Watching and listening to these media/politco slimes lie through their faces and be complicit in murder still boils my blood. May they all suddenly die from their “precious fake vax” ! Every f’n one of them.

    Long Live the Pure Bloods !

    May all the Cult scum fear a future of “severe illness and death” , fear it every day, every moment… die suddenly bitches.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/16/politics/joe-biden-warning-winter/index.html

    Biden warns of winter of ‘severe illness and death’ for unvaccinated due to Omicron

    How’s your health now Retard Bidet?

    Joe Biden’s Brain Malfunctions Within First 30 Seconds Of MSNBC Interview

    #134743
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    #134744
    Celticbiker
    Participant

    @Veraciuos Poet… So its our own fault, we’re on a kosher plantation, ruled by satanists? We don’t print the money, control the media, we have no say in anything. Our votes are’nt even counted, look at the Shithead In Chief. ZOG wants you dead, sick, crippled and sterilized. How is that the fault of the people who do the actual work in this Godforsaken country?

    #134745
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    I sincerely doubt I could enlighten you way out of your discriminatory scapegoating of your favorite “religious” group, but if you want to try go back & read my posts on the realities of Emergency Powers, which restarted with FDR in March 1933 (following Lincoln’s precedent)…

    This is *not* some *grand* conspiracy (other than usual human greed, hubris & vanity), this is, again, a combination of ignorant folly combined with non-individualistic herd madness.

    I’ve studied American history going back to John Locke’s 1689 Second Treatise of Government (The foundations of the American Revolution/Declaration of Independence), and my conclusion(s) are that We The People have meandered so far off the target, have become so dumbed-down, that U$.gov is closer in comparison to 1930s Nazi Germany than to the Democratic Republic under Natural Law that The Sons Of Liberty *won* in 1765-1791…

    Good luck with the research, please do try to keep an open mind & suspend your *shocked* disbelief 🙂

    #134746
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    #134747
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    VP

    I did not ask to be born in a concentration camp run by psychotic sociopaths and merchants of greed.

    I had no say in the years of indoctrination I was subjected to as a child and young adult.

    The truth about the Ponzi nature of Western currency finance was deliberately withheld from me.

    I was lied to from the moment I acquired the ability to process what was entering my brain.

    I can protest as much as I like but have no say in the direction everything is being driven by the current crop of psychotic sociopaths ‘in charge’, who are working against my interests and the interest of everyone else.

    As far as I am concerned, I am a victim of the machinations of an evil cult that has existed for a thousand years.

    This lady gets it:

    #134755
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    The good news is, the Russians are pushing the fascists (UkoNazis and NATOstan) out and degrading the ability of the fascists to keep fighting.

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    #134756
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    The bad news is, ocean surface temperatures and ocean heat content are at a record high as we enter an El Nino episode -noted for generating weather extremes.

    And atmospheric CO2 is surging like never before, portending a further surge in temperatures of both land and water, leading to even faster environmental meltdown.

    May. 5, 2023 424.76 ppm
    May. 5, 2022 419.68 ppm
    1 Year Change 5.08 ppm (1.21%)

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    #134807
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “Ukraine Brings 400-600 Troops To Bakhmut Every Day ”

    Time then to pull out remaining Russian troops and bomb the fuck outta Bakhmut. KIll a shitload of Nazis (and a buncha patsy conscripts, but then, this is a war, yes? This is war not a game of blackjack..

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    Re: Greenland ice cores and the graph of global temps going back 8k years: notice how smooth the change is until around the 16th century, when it starts oscillating rapidly and erratically.

    Global climatic disruption is the issue, not global warming or cooling.

    We could actually discuss the possibilities/probabilities rather than ping-pong yea-or-nay against prevailing propaganda and climate change “green” “power” scams. We could. We could actually discuss science sans political filters.

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    Left<>right…socialists<>Nazis. WhateverTF awreddy. Just how many flavors of flingable poo do we need today? Poo Lite, Poo Zero Calorie, Hard Poo, Soft Poo, Genuine Original Poo…

    But fwiw: Germany was ALREADY a goddam socialist nation before Hitler. He just worked with what was available… just like Russia was already a tyrannical industrio-capitalist feudalism with gulags and pogroms galore before Stalin took it and cranked up that Soviet nightmare of yore. Come to think of it, USA was all about egalitarian representative democracy when it declared that all men are created free and equal… except slaves and indigenous folk

    It’s socialism! It’s fascism! It’s communism! It’s capitalism! Not to put too fine a point on it, but: WHAT A FUCKING WASTE OF TIME.

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    George Washington and his homies would be following the official line like your average creep-in-charge. George was an unpleasant beast. I probably woulda fragged his sorry ass were I an American Revolution War soldier. Man trusted the science and let a typical doctor of the time bleed him to death hen he caught a bug returning from a campaign of military harassments against USA citizens who dared to resist a tax on whiskey aimed to keep average joes from becoming uppity rich without permission of old landed gentry and similar rich fools.

    George and Herr Fauci would’ve gotten along just swell, I’m sure. Founding Fathers? To me, FF* still stands for fist-fuckwer, not founding father.

    *(I was offered $100 in 1976 for a blue corduroy FFA –FutureFarmersofAmerica — jacket. Lotta $$ in ’76, and I was a homeless vagrant hitching a ride through late night summer Kentucky. Two gay truckers who gave me a ride — just on their truck, not their bodies — were proud members of Fist Fucker of America.

    But I kept it. Gave it to the woman I was insanely in love with at the time. I have great memories of her in that jacket. She adored it. Memories stay when the money’s gone.

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    “How is that the fault of the people who do the actual work in this Godforsaken country?”

    Simple: we deserve the leaders we put up with. 2000 years ago, Rome blamed Jesus for the civil unrest caused by Rome’s oppressive imperialism. 2040 years after JC’s death, they had their hands full putting down a serious Jewish rebellion… by the people.

    People want change, they’ll make change. Online wannabe pundits wanna bitch with arrogant and undeserved superciliousness, they’ll bitch with arrogant and undeserved superciliousness.

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    Here is something I think is much better than incessant kvetching over split hairs:

    Rudolph the Red-Nosed Luck Dragon

    In profile, you can see Rudolph the Reindeer. Full frontal shows a luck dragon with a ruby pendant (maybe it’s heart?). What Rudolph hauls in his whelled-rickshawe sleigh is a giant bok choy, Chinese symbol for good financial fortune. GIve a few more decades, and Santa will be Sino-Russian, Rudolp[h will have dragon wings, and everyone will know that what everyone really ant for Xmas is cash. Or at least a big fat ruby.

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