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    Salvador Dali Figure at a window 1925   • Media Serve the Governors, Not the Governed (Lauria) • Musk Announces Twitter Amnesty (RT) • Musk Says
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle November 25 2022]

    #121807
    Germ
    Participant

    @ asnaz

    “Did either of you start an ivermectin distribution center for your towns or do anything else that could be remotely construed as helpful?”

    I don’t need to justify or detail anything I have done during this scamdemic.

    But in this instance, I will tell you that I treated many people with IVM/Azith, as well as obtaining stashes of it for various folks without charge – including our host here at TAE!

    #121808
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    I don’t need to justify or detail anything I have done during this scamdemic.

    Indeed Sir; you do not!
    A hat tip for all you have done; keep on keeping on…………… 😉

    #121809
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    “The proposal by Brussels to set a limit of between $65 and $70 per barrel on Russian sea-borne oil is insufficient, he stated, arguing that Moscow would make too much revenue at that price.”

    Had to double check to make sure I wasn’t reading the “Bee”. Hard to believe anyone can say that out loud with a straight face.

    #121810
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “Britain Provides Helicopters to Ukraine for First Time in War”

    Ideal. Now they can blow the crap out of them in a big demonstration to all. And these helicopters are older than Richard Nixon? These choppers are older than more than half the country. That should go just great. Best of all, Britain can no longer deny that they are a direct participant.

    (Sea King is 1969. Nixon was President in 1970. The median age in the U.S. is 39, that is, 1983.)

    I hear the Montgolfier Brothers are free if Britain wants to send dirigibles. They’re supposed to be fighting the LAST war, not the last CENTURY’S war.

    Lira: “Dispiriting”. Yes, that’s my experience. You’ve been written from birth to do these things, think them, use them, so without electricity, you need not only to deal with actual dark and cold, but to re-write most things about yourself. Into a different person. Life re-localizes? Down to a VERY local, like your line-of-sight? Yes, but that also makes it real, tangible. You also re-animalize in several ways. I suppose the poor these days haven’t experienced this, as generally they’ll keep up power, heat, water, and cable for you, and now smart phones. That may not be much, but it’s essentially very different from a tin shack with an outhouse. In many ways the shack is better.

    Economist, “Frozen Out”. “The Economist”is the Rothschild’s Magazine. That’s an interesting cover.

    “One can hardly imagine anyone sitting on today’s U.S. Supreme Court writing such an opinion.”

    Yes, because like Roberts and Kavanaugh, they’re all actually Liberals. Republicans who follow the speed limit and have followed it Leftward for now another 30 years. No? What’s their position on gay marriage? Yes, I don’t see Eisenhower and Billy Graham supporting that. So CLEARLY no one is turning back the clock. Ever. So this writer feels the Supreme Court itself is largely against the Constitution and its principles, which is overwhelmingly true. Like all governments and government employees, they always side with government. Like FISA, with no review and no censure for problems. Suppressing all investigations if problems are found. If they weren’t pro-government, they wouldn’t be chasing and working for them. But the Constitution LIMITS government. It’s not a rule on US, it’s a rule on THEM. It doesn’t GIVE us Rights – those we had all along. It is a business contract law of employee and employer…and WE the People are the Boss.

    ““The people have spoken. Amnesty begins next week,”

    The Left boycotted, double-crossed, and refused to join the committees that would control the discussion. They said, “Obey me slimeball, and I’ll sit here in my apartment not working.” …Hey, aren’t you an employee, while telling your boss on the company platform to suck your d—k? How do you think that would go over at the DQ HQ? Not good? Insulting your boss, ordering him around, openly declaring you defy all orders, good for employment? So psychotic the concept doesn’t even register. After they are already fired. And both the firing and severance was Posh! EasyStreet!

    …And there’s the meme going around where Elon asked programmers to stay late and work because: yeah, a lot of problems to be fixed, or things to be changed, that’s for sure. When it was clock-punching, and we saw the video of the gal wandering from latte to yoga studio on the clock, they were half women. When the company needed Overtime, every woman bailed on work. It was 99% men. I don’t know what to say about that. There’s a lot of framing, interpreting, but that’s true over society as well. Something like half of women don’t work but 90% of men do? That’s why they suck, we hate them, and they should probably all be killed. CLEARLY the superior people are the ones who don’t work, and the bad people are the ones who do. “From each according to their ability”…at gunpoint, comrade.

    I was looking for that meme, but this one is funnier:
    Wesnesday

    Anyway, no conclusion on that, needs more review.

    “which online safety experts predict” Well, that’s wrong then. It’ll be the #Opposite. Apparently these “experts” have never been on “The Internet”? There’s nothing on the Internet BUT harassment and misinformation. That’s the POINT of Internet. Why? Because if you go to WalMart and talk to the people, you’ll get nothing but disinformation and harassment there too. Yet here they pass a law that apple trees must give bananas. “The Internet” is an expression of US. …Sadly the government is an even WORSE expression of us, via the natural selection process.

    “Resigning were…Twitter’s head of trust and safety, Yoel Roth.” Who did the #Opposite of everything in his job. BOTH banning innocent people without review AND supporting kiddie pron for years. By shattering Safety, he thereby personally shattered TRUST. So sad he’s gone. Now maybe kids won’t be r….. well this is a family show. Keep it classy, Yoel; maybe NAMBLA has a job for you.

    “Major advertisers have also abandoned the platform.” …Before returning 40 hours later.

    ““content moderation council” later immediately ”broke the deal”

    They spoke, therefore they were lying. Cheating, and destroying. It’s their religion.

    “ NATO Doesn’t Supersede the U.S. Constitution (McKnight)”

    Again with the definitions. Our Rights come from GOD. Our Creator. NATO does not supersede God. Duh. Yet this is exactly what Statists believe. The State is God, before God, replaces God in their minds and actions. Atheism writ large, which is why the first attack, even generations before, was against religion and the Church, BEFORE attacking via the State.

    NATO is not above God. This is their belief, their hubris, and their certain destruction as we see today. God is #Logos, Word and Truth. They believe they are above Reality, Reason, and Truth. Their express and only enemy is merely #Truth, and #Reality. “We’re an Empire now, and we create our own #Reality…” How’s that working out for ya? Tired yet?

    “Any member of Congress or news talking head saying Article 5 requires an immediate military response without a debate or vote is either lying or woefully uninformed.”

    We well know that’s true of all of them. Since it requires 30 seconds of reading in plain English, the are also bloodthirsty, reckless, illiterate morons. Never forget.

    But his opinion that “we would declare a war” is so cute I could eat it. That’s the law = we don’t do that. We do the #Opposite.

    “the Ukrainians were firing on Russian missiles from a direction that they could not possibly be coming from.”

    That goes with what I was saying. Apparently we have the radar blip and the missiles weren’t accidental? They immediately went West for no target? That’s why they hit the only standing object withing 20 miles? This needs more confirmation but doesn’t surprise me.

    “an invasion force should number three times the defending force”

    They inverted this by a factor of 6? (that is, 3x over and they were 1/3rd UDF?) And still took four provinces? Yup, they totally suck in the history of war suckage. Can’t figure out why Custer’s Army didn’t prevail against the combined manpower of 5 nations.

    He said something about torture? They’re by-the-book. They are not allowed to destroy civilian targets or infrastructure, only military ones, or in this case, dual-use ones. The power grid was allowed to be on for a year, helping Ukraine immensely. But it also runs the nationwide rail system to move arms and troops. What are you supposed to say? They still minimized casualties amazingly, taking this out. Ukraine literally argued that the LACK of civilian casualties meant Russia was bad at war. Literally. Because they wanted more casualties?

    ““If they [Kiev] don’t want people to die, and to die in huge numbers … “

    They DO want them all to die. Because that’s Joe Biden’s genocide. They already killed 100,000, more than that have left and will never return, and the power out will quickly kill that many more, this time adding the women and children, ol’ Joe is circling back to sniff.

    Please do not do this, although it is already too late.

    “The US military has declined to give an exact breakdown for billions of dollars in aid to Ukraine FTX” Fixed it. We have no idea where any of that money or weapons went, and the Republicans are evil for asking. Next?

    In WWII, we just made Sherman tanks, filled them with money, then put a random address and a postage stamp on them and they went somewhere in the world. Right? How dare you demand we follow rules and laws we already have? Hey is arming random governments and random crime syndicates like those in Finland a felony offense? Nope. A medal for making Sweden the hand-grenade capital. A medal for hardcore war weapons to organized crime in Finland. A medal for ten-thousand guns to the Zeta cartel in Fast and Furious. Medals all around.

    “referring to the Italian government as “enemies of France.”

    One-Europe. United under anti-God, Ursula.

    “have been released from the administrative center housing them, despite the minister’s previous assurances that “(they) will not be able to leave the administrative center.”

    1) They said it.
    2) They were lying.

    You know, I really get tired of saying it, and very tired of it being true. But I don’t see anyone’s behavior altering at all to accept this reality. If they are lying; we know they are lying; they know we know they are lying; and we know they know we know they are lying, is somebody going to start acting like it and not ask Government to “Pass a Law” and save them?

    Anyway, what Darmanin really means is, the French PEOPLE are the enemy of France. Since they agree with the Italian people on this. What is “This”? That immigration has rules. Any rules. Any at all. Everyone follows rules at the heel of the boot except immigrants. Whoops: nope them too. ILLEGAL immigrants. ONLY if illegal. If you’re legal, from Poland or Canada. F U. “The only legal people are the illegal ones”™ That sounds crazy and it is, but this is their express, specific, long-term actions.

    “It is hoped that the price limit would allow Russian production to remain at pre-sanctions levels, but reduce the country’s oil revenue.”

    Yes, we know that’s what they WANT, but they are trying to go Up and Down, both Left and Right at the same time, and so psychotic they can’t understand why that’s not possible. “They” being “the people”, who similarly consent to such insanity.

    “German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock rebuked Budapest and Ankara for delaying the ratification”

    Wasn’t she the one who declared there was no Germany? That she would support Ukraine ahead of Germans for the rest of her life, to the death of every German on earth if necessary? What’s she doing talking about the proper place and procedure of nation states?

    “Oddsmakers Favor DeSantis for 2024 (JTN)”

    Step back from this. Who would approve of ANY of them? DeSantis is lauded, but isn’t he still further Left than the Supreme Court? Supporting lockdowns, etc? That’s the GOP: the “Go over the cliff SLOWLY” Party. As opposed to the Thelma and Louise Party. I hardly think it matters.

    “What on earth made them go public with this?”

    AFTER the election. And seeming with no outside driver.

    Note they did NOT find these accounts when Trump was President. Wouldn’t that be Trump’s evilly-evil government running Meta against 1A, an impeachable offense? No? Had no idea back then but with Joe as President, after 2 years, suddenly they do? That was the same evilly-evil government DNC Congress gave MORE military and secret-agency money too. Not only MORE $$ to Trump and his government than last year, but ten-billions MORE than he asked for. That’s how against Trump they were. Uh-huh, boy-howdy. #Hitler. So we gave him an EXTRA $10B. For free!!!

    “Let’s put this in simple terms: If “ESG” is a net positive for a company then nobody has to exempt anything”

    This is the same as solar or wind. If they worked, they would be cheaper and come into the economy voluntarily. It’s only if they don’t work that government need be involved. So the very fact government wants them is proof that it doesn’t work. If it doesn’t work, and we’re paying someone to install it, isn’t that just fraud and theft?

    He’s not taking this up, but since Exxon and Amazon are “ESG”, the word has no meaning. It means “Our mafia friends”. “We use extortion to force you to give money to our friends, and refuse it to our enemies. Even when that DEFINITELY costs you money.” I.e, the definition of “Extortion.”

    “This “rule” amounts to an admission of collusive price-fixing”

    That’s called “Racketeering” and you get 3x damages in a Civil Suit. As he points out, that’s also Anti-Trust. But those are laws so we do the #Opposite. When it comes to court, judges rule the #Opposite. Because we are #AntiLogos religion, fighting God with every day, in every way, hating him So. Much!!!

    I thought it was against the #Law, to establish a Theocracy. Yet that is what we have with the #AntiLogos, #AntiReality there-are-no-genders I-was-never-born-of-woman citizenry. Suit yourself. You can stop any time you like. Just come back to God. That is, back to your senses, back to your right mind, and the pain will stop. They won’t.

    #121811
    Oroboros
    Participant

    The Faces of Evil

    Sam ‘Buttboy’ Bankster-Fraud and his Lords and Masters

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    #121812
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Fluturistic

    300 million people in the USA and Bill Gates the vaccine murderer is still alive.

    #121813
    aspnaz
    Participant

    The USA is hyper corrupt, the deep state is killing people and destroying the government, the people are on the internet, pretending it isn’t real.

    #121814
    oxymoron
    Participant

    I feel for Mr Lira – it is miserable when deprivation hits. I have had that sense only socially within the fabric of where I live and with some relative during the bullshit lockdown but regarding electricity etc. I feel we need action not words. He has an important role but reducing our impact isn’t just some fluffy eco trope or virtue signalling – it is real action. Get your own water. Get your own work and wood. Grown some food. Don’t rely on the Oligarchs if you are gunna bitch about the all day. THEY own the electricity because they will murder to secure it. But it is only of use if every one wants to use it.
    I get it – we all use it but demand reduction is leverage and it’s like no one wants leverage. Go for it. REDUCE REUSE RECYLE and make do. A stitch in time saves nine.

    I’m not here to criticise. We make our calls and many are good and some are bad and some are poorly timed and life can be unlucky but please; head in the direction of independence and a share economy or deal with the level of consequences.

    #121815
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Germ said

    I don’t need to justify or detail anything I have done during this scamdemic.

    But you do. If you are to pretend you are better than others then you need to provide a reason that backs up your assertion.

    Good to know you helped someone. Also good to know it was an easy decision not to take the vaccine, it didn’t involve any cost to your responsibilities, such as children.

    #121816
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Because I live in this society, can’t go one click without an example:

    “How Wednesday Addams Birthed a Generation of Cynics”

    How Wednesday Addams Birthed a Generation of Cynics

    Here’s an article that tongue-baths homicide, nihilism, #AntiLife, and (besides the article itself being inaccurate, right from the title) I dunno, among other things, violence, black magic, and casual murder for entertainment.

    They go right for it too: “In Republican terms, ‘family values’…” Go on…fascinating… I think you’ve already said what you mean. Republicans have “Family Values” and you are against Republicans, and therefore against “family” and “values”. Right? Am I missing something here?

    Since those values would be family, life, health, womanhood, childhood, and consequences you very expressly coo over Wednesday for being the express embodiment and #Opposite of those values. That’s why in the author’s opinion and outlook, they are “Good”. Because they are expressly anti-family, anti-life, anti-woman, anti-child, and anti-justice. They promote instead “A child of power”. That is, a nation of children running things, not adults. No? Is that not the basis and controversy of Greta Thunberg? That we should unthinkingly obey children? Eschew and reject maturity and reason? Stop me if I’m wrong here.

    The irony here is that the AUTHOR is the one bringing these mores to the table. Things such as “Every woman needs a man”. THEY are the ones who have internalized them, and as an outside reader I really marvel how on earth she internalized them so absolutely, and where on earth she imports them from. It’s as if all these Leftists were raised in 1952, with Poodle dresses and Church on Sundays. Instead of, as it no doubt was, all that was completely dead a generation before they were born. I see this elsewhere with “The CHRISTIANS” are after… (Insert ‘The Latest Cause’ here) Gays, Blacks, drinking, trees…random word. Dude. THERE ARE NO CHRISTIANS IN AMERICA. They’re like 3% of the population. There are more people who believe in Sasquatch. They don’t control Jack. That’s why it’s so jaw-dropping this people what don’t exist

    ARE CONTROLLING YOUR MIND.

    They’re living rent-free inside HER. No wonder she’s so mad! It’s like worrying what the Underpants Gnomes would say and what they would do to you. THERE ARE NO UNDERPANTS GNOMES. You live in Brooklyn, you’d have to drive 3 hours to FIND a Christian. …Or a Republican. I’m just beside myself about how unreachable they are in this state. How do you politely introduce that “The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster” isn’t really running a world-wide secret conspiracy that controls Chicago? Trust me? It’s a put-on similar to the “Church of the Sub-genius”, and somehow you didn’t get that it was a joke?

    So again, ** I ** didn’t say every young girl needs a boy. ** I ** didn’t say everyone’s walking around in a cheerful “Stepford Wives” June Cleaver reality. ** She ** walks around with that, and when she talks, it comes out as her baseline and foundational paradigm. Of universal reality of all life-on-earth-since-the-beginning. It’s only because this incredible, un-natural, proveable un-real reality exists for her that she must rebel so forcefully against this by going full Anti-family, anti-woman, anti-life, pro-murder, anti-justice..

    Because of this, she misses the other essential reality: The REAL Addam’s Family WAS written in ** 1938 ** (yes, generations before the 60s, although we could start there) and “The Addamses are a satirical inversion of the ideal 20th-century American family” –Wiki. The JOKE is that they are the #Opposite of what is, and what can work. That’s not an instruction manual. Like “1984” and “Idiocracy”. She totally misses this essential context and point, and therefore wants the #Opposite of everything that is likely to function to be widely installed society-wide. We only print and promote it if it’s the #Opposite. Like all girls can beat up all men with movie kung-fu, and all black Americans before 1870 were nuclear physicists. The new one being all people occupying Victorian London were people of color.

    She literally quotes “Rebel Without a Cause” as if that America is relevant, predominant, and surrounding her today. In a world with universal porn and face tattoos.

    “Values never ascribes Wednesday’s outlook to cop-outs like loneliness …her appetite for chaos needs no excuse. “She’s at that age when a girl has one thing on her mind,”
    “Boys?”
    “Homicide,” Wednesday answers.

    Homocide, really? “truthfully, I can no longer remember a time when I wasn’t casually talking to people about how much we all wanted an asteroid to take us, now.” — Jezebel Author. Yeah, I can see why! Have you thought about trying something different? Actually rebellious? Part of such a tiny minority you barely exist? Like, but not limited to, being a Christian?

    But not to leave on a low note in these article reviews, there was a wonderful series that perfectly captured the real Addams: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlIAhjRwOIE

    Of course seeing this, Hollywood immediately put a cease-and-desist on fan fiction instead of immediately hiring Melissa Hunter and making a TONNE of money for YEARS doing exactly what she told them and what the people wanted. Because Melissa understands what Jezebel doesn’t: Wednesday is funny because it’s a joke. Re-read that sentence if you have to. It’s a #Joke because she is the #Opposite of what is, and what can be. That is, as the first novels claimed, “art once served to educate and edify,” And by “Edify” they meant be a Moral tale, leading people to correct behavior that works, even if by hyperbolic and amusing bad examples. Mr. Collins for example. Or in hyperbolic, barely-believable form, Emily Alford, professional writer, L.A.

    #121817
    Germ
    Participant

    @aspnaz

    “If you are to pretend you are better than others…”

    What on earth are you talking about?
    You are making quite baseless assumptions, insinuations and accusations.

    You have absolutely no idea what price I may have paid in order to remain unvaxxed , or how easy a decision it was to make. You have no idea what my financial, business, emotional or interpersonal costs have been.
    None, zip, nada.

    But one, albeit relatively small cost, is that I am unable to join my wife and son this Christmas at the dinner table in the USA. Unvaxxed foreigners are still denied entry.

    Meanwhile, the death vaxxed, with their greater susceptibility to Covid infection, higher viral load when infected, and wrecked immune systems, are at liberty to travel as they please spreading disease and driving new variants.
    THEY truly are the Covid superspreaders. What a hoot!

    I shall remain home in the UK alone – festive, indeed.

    None of us here are better than any others.
    But the vaxxxed, those that actually received a dose of mRNA, yes – they are fucked.
    Tick, tock, tick, tock ……

    Oh yeah – FUCK YOU!

    #121818
    Germ
    Participant

    And aspnaz, seeing as you mentioned children, I’m sure my son would have some choice words for you.

    He has paid a heavy price to remain the only unvaxxed student in his year at senior school.

    But, it has been a terrific education for him.
    Among other things this scamdemic has taught him is, to hold his ground and to respond to your sort with a FUCK YOU!

    I couldn’t be more proud of him.

    #121819
    EoinW
    Participant

    What’s with this idea the Polish farmer prevented WW3? He took a photo of the missile. The only reason any of us saw that photo is because the western media reported on it. Who controls MSM content? The US government. Therefore it was the USA which prevented WW3 because it has no stomach for fighting the Russians. They’ve already passed on fighting Iran or Venezuela. Who’s left? Saudi Arabia?

    You know it has to be a slam dunk war. Otherwise the MIC puts its entire racket at risk. Anyone for Christmas in Mecca?

    #121820
    EoinW
    Participant

    @ aspnaz

    Do you really think you’ll accomplish anything positive by picking covid fights here?

    I guess I’m bad because I wore a mask to keep my job. I sure wasn’t happy about wearing one but what would I have accomplished losing my job on a matter of principle? My ego isn’t so large that I think: “I’ll refuse then everyone will follow my example!”

    We’re not the cowards, living in denial and following all orders. We’ve all been forced to do what we can to help. For most of us it’s using whatever means we have to expose the lies. I have 75 FB friends and over 60 of them have done an excellent job of ignoring my facts/opinions for over 2 years. Can’t help people who won’t help themselves.

    Yet if I changed the mind of one person, perhaps convinced them not to vaccinate their children, then I did some good. Even showing likeminded people they are not isolated and alone helps.

    When Trudeau came to town I’d didn’t grab a sharp kitchen knife and go meet him. I’m at a loss to figure out how anyone can fix this mass insanity by ruining their life. Yet you get this logic from some that if you don’t take a gun and go fight these criminals then it’s your own fault the crimes are happening.

    The Covid Cultist aren’t the only ones out of touch with reality.

    #121821
    anticlimactic
    Participant

    As I understand it : Russian oil production costs 10 dollars/barrel. The oil companies keep 25 dollars a barrel and all the other money goes to fund the Russian government.

    #121822
    aspnaz
    Participant

    @Dr D Emily Alford states at the bottom of her piece of garbage “A new iteration of the Addams family, Wednesday, premieres November 23 on Netflix.” I think that is all we need to know. The opinions or evaluations or judgements or interpretations of Ms Alford are all about selling Netfix. I generally don’t watch Netflix – the occasional exception being driven by my wife – so I am totally diconnected from Ms Alford’s world. I feel that is a good thing.

    #121823
    aspnaz
    Participant

    @Germ Thanks for your explanation of what you have been through and I sincerely hope you see your family in the near future.

    Living in China, many people that I know took the vaccine because here in HK you are not allowed to go to the office if you are not vaxxed. In the past you used to have the option of taking tests, but now you get vaxxed or you cannot work. I am able to have reasonable conversations with these people and they explain that they did not want to take it, but what else can they do. They remain my friends. You, Germ, are happy to blame the people who get vaxxed, but most of those people do it because they have no choice. You obviously had a choice, so you can be a smarmy git about it, the rest of us do not neccessarily have that choice. I am lucky, I have enough resources to not work. It sounds to me as though you are pissed off with the vocal element – the preachers – among your fellow citizens, not with the vaccinated as a whole. Maybe the problem is that you are surrounded by people who feel they are entitled to tell you what to do. I am not surrounded by those sorts of people, I still have most of my friends, including one who had heart surgery two weeks ago, yes, he’s vaxxed and willing to admit that yes, maybe it was the vax. I hope he gets better and does not suffer any more than has happened already.

    #121824
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Well, having watched ample exchange of a heated nature (which heat tends to bring the truth to the surface like a boiling broth), I feel compelled to say:

    I am sorry, Germ, for thinking you harbored malicious feelings. The fact that your style of expression struck many of us as accusative and schadenfreudist (amazingly, that really is a word) means little when your overall content and context speak very much otherwise.

    I apologize and, fwiw, I believe you.

    Tell ’em to stick it where the sun keeps shining through pouring rain

    #121825
    aspnaz
    Participant

    EoinW said

    Do you really think you’ll accomplish anything positive by picking covid fights here?

    I will defend my friends and try to make their rehabilitation easy. About six months ago, a friend of mine was shouting at me outside a bar, telling me to stop talking about the dangers of the vax. Two weeks ago he had surgery, yesterday I met up with him and he admitted it could have been the vax that caused his problem. I am happy to continue to be his friend, we all make mistakes and I have known him for over 10 years, so why would I abandon him because he made a mistake? Sure, he shouted at me, but he was sure he was right, I can handle that. People make mistakes, big mistakes, and as their friends you owe them the grace to deal with their mistakes. As for the people who gave me dirty looks in the subway, told me to put on a mask etc, I can forgive them, they were afraid. As for the people who organised all of this, who didn’t do their professional jobs to keep us safe from unsafe vaccines: lock them up. To answer your question of whether I will accomplish anything positive, I doubt it but I prefer to feel that I am trying.

    #121826
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “When Trudeau came to town I’d didn’t grab a sharp kitchen knife and go meet him. I’m at a loss to figure out how anyone can fix this mass insanity by ruining their life. Yet you get this logic from some that if you don’t take a gun and go fight these criminals then it’s your own fault the crimes are happening.”

    What to do, what to do? Believing we can fix it is the problem, Believing we can’t fix it is the problem.

    We can’t stop trying to fix it (make things better); we can’t start trying hard enough to actually succeed — if that’s possible in the first place.

    We can’t stop believing we’re fucked; we can’t stop believing we’ll find our way through.

    Flowers

    Still we grieve
    Still we haunt
    Here in this garden of bones

    We cant run
    No we wont flee
    This is our garden of bones

    Keep belief
    and sow the seeds
    Grow in this garden of bones

    Hall of souls
    Who fell asleep
    Wake in this garden of light

    Ghosts of those who lie beneath
    Rise from your slumber and weep

    Feel the pain of what is lost
    Break from the soil and your sleep

    Whet the axe and raise the shield
    Bite in the darkness and reap

    Fall upon like ocean waves
    Drown the decay and deceit

    Inwidsorge þe we ær drugon
    Swyð-ferhð
    Hæf þa gefælsod

    (Evil sorrow which we have endured
    strong hearted have now been cleansed)

    Eallhwít hæþstapa eftarisen
    Eallhwít stagga eftarisen

    (All white heath stalker rise again
    All white stag rise again)

    SIng that song loud in the shower once a day and no microbe will dare even look down your throat. I think that DocJD should include regular loud singing, however badly, especially in the steamy shower, as part of keeping pathogens* at bay. *(including nosy neighbors)

    #121827
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Dr D:
    This is the same as solar or wind. If they worked, they would be cheaper and come into the economy voluntarily. It’s only if they don’t work that government need be involved. So the very fact government wants them is proof that it doesn’t work. If it doesn’t work, and we’re paying someone to install it, isn’t that just fraud and theft?
    Technically, internal combustion vehicles were also subsidized by government decades ago. In Phoenix, AZ, the streetcar rail was torn out by government, and countless roads paved, to facilitate autos. Without streetcars, the people were more inclined to purchase autos.

    The stupid part is how people expect solar/wind to directly compete or supersede fossil fuel use in *all* areas. There is a reason why satellites and the International Space Station primarily use solar PV for their electrical needs!

    #121828
    zerosum
    Participant

    It’s my story and I’m sticking by it
    https://genius.com/Frederick-loewe-i-remember-it-well-lyrics
    I Remember It Well

    #121829
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    My teen nephew is finally recovering after weeks of illness with the flu, RSV, and pneumonia.
    Wait — a TEEN was very sick with RSV?
    Yes.
    That sister told her teens that they should pray and make their own decision about whether or not to get the Covid vaccine. Fortunately, by the time they came to jab her younger kids she had been exposed to enough information about the C vax dangers that she chose not to vax them. (I think I may have had a part in that.)

    I watched Died Suddenly. That was my first introduction to the idea that there is a clear signal of death + presence of amyloid-protein strings in veins and arteries occurring 5/6 months after the initial jab. My now 90-year-old friend and client suffered a “mini stroke” six months after her first 2-dose series vax in late June 2021. When I expressed concern that it was related to the vax, she pushed the thought away, citing that it was impossible because “that was six months earlier” and proceeded to go out and get boosted. In July of that year, a younger client (around age 60) experienced blood clots in his leg, and his now-wife had some sort of sudden swelling in her brain that affected her vision.

    #121830
    zerosum
    Participant

    https://www.rt.com/russia/566935-they-robbed-ukraine/
    24 Nov, 2022
    Bye-bye, Kiev, hello Cote d’Azur: As Westerners send aid, here’s how Ukraine’s corrupt elites are profiting from the conflict
    Officials and oligarchs have diverted much of the financial support sent to Kiev

    #121831
    jb-hb
    Participant

    When I refused the jab which does not vaccinate and lost my job, it was because I recognized a duty to not comply. REGARDLESS of whether anyone “goes along” with me.

    For those who took it and persecuted those who did not, ie those who WENT ALONG… of COURSE, to do it if nobody would go along did not compute. Integral to their psychology.

    #121832
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Nobody needs to provide personal details, as if they were on trial, to someone else’s judgment, to justify some expression of their bitterness towards the compliant. Especially considering the behavior for YEARS of many of the compliant.

    Those who went along bolstered destruction of nation, institutions, culture, freedom, families, friendships, as well as the murder of tens of millions and the injury of billions.

    Moreover, FOR WHAT?

    For the ability to travel. For the ability to socially mingle and shop freely. To keep a job.

    But of course it was those complying that were the very ones putting these things at stake. If no one complied, or enough people didn’t, NONE of these things would be at risk.

    If you want to morally equivocate, say that the people with contempt for the compliance that led to all the wrongs that happened AND ARE STILL HAPPENING is just as bad as the pro injection which does not vaccinate people hoping to dance on the graves of people who did not comply, then state YOUR case rather than pretending you can put someone else on trial for feelings – rather justified feelings. The burden is on you. Go for it.

    #121833
    kultsommer
    Participant

    @ citizenx – carry-on from yesterday
    “It’s called courage, principles, discernment, and intelligence combined with basic logic and common sense…”
    Absolutely!
    Nice list that has been manifested in this jab-no-jab saga, for the most part, only in the RIGHT CIRCUMSTANCES(!!!) that “heroes” for some reason do not want to disclose, while pumping their chests.
    Have you watched “Died Suddenly” or any other video related to Vaxx injuries? Not a single person, especially in the latter that were more close and personal, look “dumb” or “covid-cultist” to me. How one can possibly wish to anybody else of what had happened to them??? I was talking in the name of those people who, I suspect, had to do what they had to do – to put it bluntly.
    Vaxx-pushers and evil behind are in entirely different league.
    Even the Naomi Wolf admitted that she may had been “much less vocal” if it wasn’t for her partner who provides sufficient financial comfort, which I think is brave thing to reveal. What ever we collectively can possibly do has to start on the footing of truth and not on useless virtual posturing and even more less on “ha-ha-stupid” finger pointing to just about ANYBODY.

    #121834
    jb-hb
    Participant

    what is this “did what they had to do”?

    #121835
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Alex Jones Is Innocent

    Alex Jones Is Innocent

    #121836
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “I Remember It Well”: that made my day.

    ***

    “This is the same as solar or wind. If they worked, they would be cheaper and come into the economy voluntarily. It’s only if they don’t work that government need be involved. So the very fact government wants them is proof that it doesn’t work. If it doesn’t work, and we’re paying someone to install it, isn’t that just fraud and theft?”

    Putting aside that the majority of all business has always been based on a kaleidoscope variety of frauds and theft, I echo what phoenixvoice said:

    “Technically, internal combustion vehicles were also subsidized by government decades ago. In Phoenix, AZ, the streetcar rail was torn out by government, and countless roads paved, to facilitate autos. Without streetcars, the people were more inclined to purchase autos.”

    The fraud and theft happens whether a technology or paradigm actually work; a technology or paradigm of itself works whether or not it is used for corrupt reasons; things don’t come into the market voluntarily. They have to be marketed and sold, and trade/barter/salesmanship are well known to require a steady supply of bullshit to corner their markets, which always happens as soon as two trade routes intersect.

    What to do? What to do?
    What is best that we do?
    Rage at the few who are evil,
    Or cheer those who hold strong and true?

    Stare at the entrancing pyre,
    Or water the ground where you are?
    Curse at the gathering darkness,
    Or notice how brightly it stars!

    And now, a glimpse into the pancultural codification of narcissism as a universally admired and adored human trait:

    But it’s for a worthy cause…

    Not sayin them boyz cayn’t sang. But the guy on the left at 1:28 says it all with his eyes.

    The One True Only Narcissist

    #121837
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    The Covid scam: “The [NZ] politicians all know, and they are keeping it going.” -Liz Gunn Counterspin Media.

    https://theinfowar.tv/watch?id=6379896da4be324da6aa41bf

    #121838
    jb-hb
    Participant

    I’ll try to define “what they had to do” then…

    First, I’ll reiterate that it was BECAUSE OF COMPLIANCE that anyone’s anything was at stake. Compliance was THE CAUSE.

    My understanding of what has happened 2020-2022 is one as old as human storytelling.

    Some decent guy, maybe has a family, is doing his own thing, working hard, not bugging anyone and along comes something bad. Maybe barbarians, brigands, an invading army. Maybe a greedy governmental official or rich man.

    They steal your movable property. They root around and try to find your hidden property. They steal your land. They force you to flee – by ruining your harvest, cutting you off from water, blocking you from transport, the ability to do your trade, whatever. A powerful, legitimately immoral force comes in and ruins everything you had going on. Maybe even wastefully. (evil that is to stupid to even properly profit!)

    This is how great-grandfather ends up leaving his destroyed successful farm, business, or trade in the old country and ends up moving to America where he learns a new language and new humble trade in his 50’s. Because, to sum up, barbarians rode in and destroyed the family farm. This happens. History rolls over you in this way and you’re just the poor guy who was working hard not bugging anybody left with smoking ruins.

    That’s what the forces were that swooped in ending many of the normal functions of human life and injecting poison. One of these historical things that rolls over the peasants and burns their productive nice little humble farm down in the process.

    So bad people are coming to burn your farm down and steal your cow. Yes exactly.

    There wasn’t an ALTERNATIVE. It was NOT a question of the peasant kneeling to a new lord and being spared to go about his business, paying his taxes to the new guy same as the old guy. There was no option to bow to a new religion and carry on. There was NO CHOICE OF THAT TYPE. There was no option given to submit in such a way.

    The option was – we burn your farm down OR we poison you and you give us support for poisoning everyone else and burning down everyone else’s farm.

    Look I’m sorry if barbarians come burn down your farm and you have to run to America to start over in your 50’s selling pencils on a street corner, but they REALLY ARE barbarians/invaders burning down your family farm.

    For the people taking the shot, it seems to me for many it was kind of an incantation intended to transport them sideways into a world where relatively comfortable normalcy continues. The Secret. “Manifesting Reality.”

    But I will lose my house? But I will go hungry? But Jr will have to quit college? But xyz thing will be missed out on? YES that is what happens when barbarians, invaders, or other plunderers show up, uninvited, to steal what they can and burn everything else down. And?

    Nobody is going to be a good provider with myocardis or any other number of diseases. Certainly being dead makes you a bad provider.

    I don’t even say there’s a moral obligation to actively fight. If you’ve got a family to care for, perhaps there’s a moral obligation to flee. My family fled the Bolsheviks with good reason. They didn’t actively fight them. But they didn’t JOIN them.

    the only way taking the shot makes any sense is as a magic spell to be able to say “this isn’t happening” but it was and is.

    I don’t feel the same vicious “that’s what you get!” that others feel. But when I think of those who complied, I feel ill. I feel sick to my stomach. Because of their credulity, incuriosity, and obedience. Whatever they didn’t know, they knew quite a lot. They knew compliance was what was powering everything happening. They knew they’d been lied to via every respected institution for the previous 6 years, on some level they knew this. ENOUGH people knew this to have non compliance stop it if they had only made their actions congruent with what they didn’t want to know.

    What they “had to do” that they REALLY did was to say “this isn’t happening” and having said that, decided to have the farm not get burned down, support the barbarians, and take an injection of… (blank out. this isn’t happening. This can’t be happening.)

    I did consider getting a fake shot. A very real option. Fire up the ol Tor browser and find a solution. Or just ask the $18/hr non doctor in the tent – “Do you like money?” waggle a $500 wad of $20’s and point at the needle and then the trash can.

    But faking compliance would have supported everything going on as much as real compliance. So I didn’t. I could not pretend that the horde of horses standing there in my ruined fields in front of my burning buildings wasn’t actually there. I could not bring myself to ignore their existence, what they were doing, or the help I would be giving them.

    #121839
    Oroboros
    Participant

    HAHA! RINO Kinzinger Loses It, Threatens VIOLENCE After a Cartoon Cat Triggers Him To Issue Threat

    Catturd2 strikes again

    RINOS really suck but this ex CONGRESS critter picking a fight with a cartoon Catturd is precious beyond words.

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Kinzinger++Catturd2&&view=detail&mid=CFBF49F50B831BDD5FB7CFBF49F50B831BDD5FB7&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DKinzinger%2B%2BCatturd2%26FORM%3DHDRSC3

    #121840
    Oroboros
    Participant

    #121841

    I am exhausted and burnt out reading the recaps, the comments and the redirects.
    So, what the hell- how about a new topic? A CSPAN caller directed me to a site here, which scrolls through student loan “stories”. They are stunning. Sen.”Joe Biden” proudly did this.
    I’m still poring through Matthew Crawford’s FTX write-up (with long redirects, which I usually read…).
    My head hurts. (I haven’t even begun reading today’s comments, and now I’ve got a new Whitney Webb article, and I have only just begun her new 2v book.)
    So now I’m going for a walk. It’s sunny and 42F.

    #121842
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    I no longer ride with Germ.

    #121843
    citizenx
    Participant

    @kultsommer

    Have you watched “Died Suddenly” or any other video related to Vaxx injuries?

    Yes I sure have. Actually posted a link to it here at TAE on Nov 21, post #121582. I’ve spent the last 3 yrs studying all things Cvd. Have you made any comments as to the destructive nature of the lock downs and forced vax mandates on those who chose not to get vaxxed?

    How about the elderly who died alone separated from their loved ones due to social distance lock down nonsense? Or the divisive nature of the politicizing propaganda?

    But now you advocate a pity party for the vax injured? The onus is on the vax pushers and their virtue signaling minions- not on the resistors.

    What ever we collectively can possibly do has to start on the footing of truth and not on useless virtual posturing and even more less on “ha-ha-stupid” finger pointing to just about ANYBODY.

    Yes truth. There is nothing useless in critiquing and assessing what went down the last 3 yrs and the policies they are still pushing. Never forget and never again right? Never again can only be prevented by paying attention to wtf happened.

    Side note- I’m also at ground zero, Wa state, first cvd US case, longest locked down, surrounded by virtue signalling Libtards who are now paying a heavy price for their arrogance, shaming, discrimination, ‘following the science’, and ignorance. I tried to discuss and question all of it- for that they hated me, ridiculed me, and tried to break me- the cult needs to be eviscerated. For the good of society and humanity.

    #121844
    jb-hb
    Participant

    lol wtf is it with objecting to Germ’s tone to this extent? HE isn’t injecting anyone, pressuring anyone, ostracizing anyone, blocking anyone from social or economic activity. He’s just understandably angered and embittered.

    And it seems to me, the thing he returns to again and again, is that for people who preferred to blank out and say this can’t be happening, the very people who made all of this possible, the chickens are increasingly coming home to roost. Their comfort-seeking fugue state will be rendered temporary by reality. It was an IMMORAL mental state to put themselves in.

    Yeah it isn’t classy, but hell man, it’s all still happening RIGHT NOW

    Like how is his real and justified anger and embitterment over real actual bad things and bad PEOPLE even a problem, really?

    Let me ask you this Germ – what about people who realized their mistake after the fact. What about people who regret the shot, regret going along, and are now refusing boosters and won’t go along with new lockdowns? Same attitude towards those people? Or different and if so, how?

    Like, I don’t see how people going along with malevolence in a netflix/prozac/soy infused haze are ok but someone angry at them isn’t.

    #121845
    zerosum
    Participant

    Two stories that the West don’t hear

    On Ukrainian ‘Refugees’


    On Ukrainian ‘Refugees’
    3041 Views
    November 25, 2022
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    https://www.rt.com/russia/566935-they-robbed-ukraine/
    24 Nov, 2022
    Bye-bye, Kiev, hello Cote d’Azur: As Westerners send aid, here’s how Ukraine’s corrupt elites are profiting from the conflict
    Officials and oligarchs have diverted much of the financial support sent to Kiev

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