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    Peter Stackpole Sophia Loren in a Manhattan Coffee, NYC 1958   • Trump Promises Government Position For Musk (RT) • California Gov’t Blocks New M
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle October 16 2024]

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    V. Arnold
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    Peter Stackpole Sophia Loren in a Manhattan Coffee, NYC 1958

    …an absolutely gorgeous woman…

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    Dora
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    Is Clinton throwing Harris under the bus? I wonder what her real polling numbers look like.

    https://x.com/greg_price11/status/1845869475863597075

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    Dr. D
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    Snowing in October: Global Warming! We’re all gonna dieeeeee!

    “Trump’s MENTAL COLLAPSE Gets Worse at Chicago Event: He can barely speak!” –MeidasTouch

    Yeah, if only. Would you like 20 videos on how Ukraine is winning the war too? Oh and following tradition, it’s OUR fault Israel can’t get it up and shoot Iran. Honest! Not that they’ve been savaged by the missiles, have no air defense, and have no means to escalate from here without getting hammered. Everything that happens is the fault of the United States. Otherwise, countries and leaders would have to take responsibility for themselves, and we can’t have that!

    “Trump Destroys Bloomberg Editor-In-Chief, Receives Standing Ovation In Chicago

    Yup, he was so destroyed he didn’t notice, then got up from his chair and continued on his high status, 6-figure job of fame and fortune, instead of, say, being destroyed by making $15/hr with no benefits, no health care at Denny’s. THAT would be “Destroyed”. Oh, that’s what you have in mind for all of us? Yeah, we noticed.

    “The 2024 Election – The Last Election We Will Ever Have” –Armstrong

    “We are just too far gone. They think they can rig this election and retain power. The Computer has been projecting MAJOR civil unrest with this election regardless of who wins, and this will be the last election. Everything is just too far gone anymore to save anything. I don’t know what else to say. The Democrats will say this was rigged or Russia interfered again, and the Republicans will be calling it illegal for the aliens. If Trump wins, we will be back to Russian nonsense, and he is not my president. I do not see any way out. This will get bad into 2026.”

    The 2024 Election – The Last Election We Will Ever Have

    Yes, but you see we’re done circling. Last go-round, we would have an equal Civil War 50-50 and level the country. Now we’re at 2/3rds America, with the Derp State outnumbered. Maybe that’s the best we can do. The point is, it matters when the battle starts, who has the initiative, who has the moral high ground. We have most of those things, or at least a much as we’re likely to get. Of course as a citizen, we’re against violence and only in self-defense as is the Human Right. But it seems certain it will come to that in this Window. By delaying…from 1992, 94, 2001, 2008, 2016…we’ve now changed the field substantially and people can at last understand what they’re fighting FOR, but also AGAINST. They had to SEE, and FEEL what would happen, what they don’t want, shoved down their throats every day, so they would know why they should fight back and restore order. Sorry that sucks.

    Getting back to a rule of Federal Law would be good enough. And Federal Law #1 is the Constitution.

    Speaking of, so not much coverage of the NY Appeals who did everything except yank the licenses of the Lawyers in the Trump case. Ha! No: stop there. NY is ultra-blue, with ultra-blue, ultra-corrupt, ultra-partisan, with anti-law employees in every chair at every level from the dog catcher to the Gracy Mansion. Their governor killed 5,000 people and laughed it off as a joke, fully supported from Erie to Montauk. Their Capital City supported Epstein, Weinstein, and Nexium for decades. You can get an “Open-Season” all-Rape pass from the Manhattan DA for a small campaign donation — ON THE BOOKS. They are the host for Hillary’s Senate win, having lived there for 60 seconds before the election.

    …And the NY Appellate court tossed the Trump indictment out the 33rd story window? Doesn’t that tell you something? NOT ONE of those judges is an honest man…or they’d be in the East River. As we well know by 200 years of non-stop corruption there. So they are corrupt ON BEHALF of Trump here? Who’s holding their chain?

    Yeah, sounds like something Luongo would say: Wall Street has had it with the M——-g Snakes on this M——–g Plane. They’re taking out Faction G. Ruining all business in NY is … bad for business in NY? Who knew? But they’re all one club, all the same. Right? Those ruling for are the same as those ruling against, as going to jail = not going to jail. Being bankrupted is the same as getting rich. As this NEW YORK court keeps Cheeto out of jail, and keeps him rich enough to pay people in the election. …AND HE KNEW IT. Look at his behavior. He’s well informed about it in the background. He knows. But he needs YOU to know, which means we need this pantomime so YOU, the people of America, the world, and investors of NY know and get PROOF of what’s going on out there.

    They’re shutting down Russian Rev 2.0 being run on us. But that means it will come into the open (as in 2026) because otherwise they will all be rounded up and killed without a fight. So they HAVE to fight. But against 1/3 of the U.S., and 20 states? Or against 2/3 of the U.S. and all 50 states? …As we now see in Washington, Oregon, and CA, having had enough. NY having had enough, with the Mayor, Police Chief, etc all arrested, indicted and brought to heel.

    By whom?

    Well unless there are two sides I don’t see, the same people running NY Supreme Court and letting Trump off. Arresting all police in NYC, Trump’s hometown, means less election rigging in the rigged city, the rigging you don’t get in bright red hillbilly counties by rural Pennsylvania? NY abuts Pittsburgh you know. And rural VT, and Canada. So although doesn’t seem like it, it’s the same island of Blue in a sea of Red that Illinois is. And Georgia, and Colorado, and….

    “They are telegraphing their plan to steal PA!”

    They are going to keep counting…and counting…and counting…because the rulz are: we count until we win, then we stop! So all media is on this now: NY Times as well, this plan is definitely in play. Weird ‘cuz it’s a weak one and isn’t new. I’d look for Elias, who instead doesn’t allow any purges, even of bad names, and arrests anyone who contests and “Files paperwork.” What they may do is queer the vote – their favorite word – such that no one can figure out anything. Then Harris stays in! Forevah! Like Zelensky, our democratic hero!

    O’Keefe: yes, the “Demoralization” campaign, which I thought was the “de Morale – ization” campaign. But no, it is to erase all Morals in society, all notion, even the ghost of what is right and wrong. So you can get 30 million vote checkers all to have no idea whether it’s right or wrong to lie with every name, and cheat every vote. That’s moral right? If it’s done for a good cause?

    This works because the crime itself may be a misdemeanor, erroneously certifying federal records, a paperwork error. The system is protected because, how on earth would you get a million guys to all commit a misdemeanor? Oh, like this, that’s how. Ask Bezmanov. Like 250 million out of 300 million Americans would commit any crime they can get away with – heck, schools are filled with woman teachers making out with 11-year-olds. (this week), you think they won’t do a PAPERWORK error? And if the other side obeys the law, it only HAMPERS them.

    “A government for a moral society and unfit for any other” – John Adams.

    “”Do you think that non-citizens, when they’ve self-identified as a non-citizen, should [vote]”?

    Yes, but as I’ve said, like most of the country can hear that now and no sparks go off, because they have no morality, reason, or limits. They have, in fact, there is, no morality without God or a Creator. Man will always justify everything to himself.

    ““get to Mars before the end of my administration, which will be long before, hopefully, China or Russia.”

    Yup, we’re going to beat China from Mars. Now that we’ve reached Mars, should we bomb it?

    “The California government denied an Air Force request to allow Elon Musk’s SpaceX to increase its California rocket launches, citing Musk’s politics.”

    Wow, you’re not supposed to SAY that. I really appreciate the honesty for a change now, though. Now CA will have no leverage since all companies will leave there.

    “First Amendment advocates wondered how it was legal to consider Musk’s legally protected political speech in its regulatory actions.”

    The Party comes first, comrade. And the glorious eternal revolution. That gloriously, eternally kills eternal, infinite people in said war actions.

    “According to his running mate, J.D. Vance, Trump would likely start talks with Russia, Ukraine, and European stakeholders to establish a demilitarized zone along the current front line,”

    Hahahaha. You’re kidding, right? We’re going to have a Korean DMZ 70 years after seeing how THAT worked out, and ALSO allow the remaining Ukraine into NATO? Okie dokie then. I’ll watch. Here’s a hint though: You and Whose Army?

    “Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis is seeking to block former special prosecutor Nathan Wade from testifying before Congress, arguing he might “improperly divulge confidential information.”

    Citizens can just remain “Confidential” from the government? I’ll have to tell that to the Judge next time I’m subpoenaed. Telling them if I saw the suspect on the night of the murder might reveal proprietary trading information.

    “improperly divulge confidential information that is protected by privileges held by the Fulton County District Attorney’s Office”

    Uhhh, not an expert here, but what information could that possibly be? All State’s Prosecution and State’s Evidence is Public. As in: Public. They work for the Public. But never fear: Republicans! They’ll say that’s fine for them. If he doesn’t want to be under oath, he can skip it and bring donuts for everyone.

    ““..Now the public is being asked to vote for the most anti-free speech ticket in centuries..”

    That should be hyperbole, but, I actually think it isn’t. Of course EVERY new candidate gets a new plaque on their wall, in an unbroken string of new lows going back to Lincoln, but that doesn’t mean it’s okay.

    And question of Walz: don’t we have more to ask him about, as everyone from his town is bringing up his School Record, made public at School Board Meetings? That they called him “Touchdown Timmy” because the coach really loved touching them “down there”, sexing up a sleeping with a student football player? Soooo….this is what happens when you don’t do your duty and let that pass at the time, not to scandal yourself and make trouble, possibly bad trouble: then the guy becomes Governor and President, using his crimes as his CV. Do. Your duty.

    “We’re seeing censorship coming in the form of book bannings in different places,” Walz told Bream.”

    No they are not, as they cannot understand active and passive rights. Their “Banning” is that I aren’t forced to PAY for your porn. You can buy it on your own dime and read it to your own kids, idgaf. Weirdo.

    So that’s the #Opposite of banning. Letting you get whatever book you want and do whatever you want with it = banning. Yup! You’re insane alright! Touchdown Timmy on the case.

    “the primary goal of Vladimir Zelensky’s so-called ‘victory plan’ – which he has been touting to Kiev’s foreign backers – is to push the collective West “into a war with Russia under the leadership of Ukraine”

    That is, K-Pop Mafia. Their homeland. Joke’s on you: we’ll lose! We couldn’t win a war with Mexico right now, much less 12 time zones 10,000 miles away. We couldn’t beat Russia in 1950 when they lost 20 million people and had the technology of 1919. When we had 1 Million men in Europe, and all Europe was armed. They didn’t dare then. So okie dokie, tell me all about it.

    “Ukraine has lost more than 23,000 troops since the start of the attack, the Russian Defense Ministry has reported.”

    In Kursk alone, which is 10,000/mo or 2.500 a week. And you wonder why they keep it open.

    “The Muslims will die, because they are disunited and have been for many centuries, thus pissing away their power. “

    Wow, somebody noticed the Arabs and how they treat Palestine. Is that legal? I thought everything had to be the fault of the United States, and everyone else is given a free pass. …As a non-person. China? Doing nothing? Also a permanent veto member? Nope, never mentioned, not their fault, can’t do nothin’. Only us. Other 10 top nations who could do that same? Nope, they don’t exist, only us.

    “”Both the outgoing and incoming NATO Secretary Generals said, “There is no reason to believe Putin. He never does anything.”

    …I mean, except invade Ukraine and annihilate NATO, what have the Russians ever done for us? Just because Russia is already in a war, lost 100-200k men, and have enthusiastic enlistment for 2M more certainly means Russia never does anything. If anything indicates Russia never acts, it’s most certainly arranging Hypersonics in Yemen and taking all Africa, what. Other than destroying NATO, they’re helpless.

    “So, where is this treaty than can stop World War III?”

    You dips—t, A PIECE OF PAPER DOESN’T END A WAR. That’s what Minsk was. So they can sign any paper they want and will immediately ignore it like every treaty in 400 years – ask the Indians, either one. Wars end when ONE SIDE COLLAPSES. They are INCAPABLE of war. So you want a paper that gives the NATO/West a time-out every time we’re losing? F– that. PCR like other Republicans believes if there are rules, no one will break the rulz. What are you, tripping balls right now? WTF is wrong with you, you’re a grown ass adult. THEIR WORDS MEAN NOTHING, if anything from the last 20, 50, 100, or 500 years shows anything.

    THERE IS ONLY WAR until every Neocon/Neolib is removed. That’s a big ask, but we have no choice about it. They made sure.

    ““The BRICS currency is very far along in establishing itself as a viable payment currency.”

    I mean, kind of. It’s not a currency. That alone is important. It’s a system. He’s describing the system needs options. Right. What he doesn’t mention in the excerpt is that the present system is extractive and increasing as they fail. So the WEST is causing everyone to take the trouble to leave, not the East. The more they take, the more it makes sense to leave, and the faster they do it. That means money is leaking, but the more it leaks, the more they have to charge and steal to stay in place, which means the faster it goes, in a self-enforcing feedback loop. We can easily reverse this, but no nation ever does.

    “• Emirates Flags ‘Serious Talks’ With Boeing (RT)

    Okay, who wants planes that fall out of the sky that you can’t get parts? That’s like buying Soviet special. “Closing the Collapse Gap with the Soviet Union.” Also can’t tell what they cost since we have inflation. …That we also lie about, so it may be 2% or may be 20%. Put that in your contract: nah, I’ll just go elsewhere.

    “there is no evidence at all that the assassins came close to the Skripal house,”

    My first question. So the world’s most totalitarian state, with cameras that make Orwell blush, have no photos or evidence of them at all. 31 minutes missing? Okay, who erased all that footage? Did all ten cameras go out in the cellblock while the Bobbies shopped online for expensive cars? Video footage only disappears in one direction: if it helps the accused, it’s never found.

    The US sought to sanction [Druzhba] into submission,”

    Aaaaaaand it worked as well as every other sanction, everywhere in time.

    Okay, aside from this noise and distraction, what’s really going on?

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    Oroboros
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    Oroboros
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    All the breathless headlines about stealing votes and stuffing fake mail-in ballots

    You had FOUR FUCKING YEARS is straighten out that shit Duh’merica.

    So you’re actually stupid enough to be “concerned” about election fraud three weeks before the “election”?

    Grow the fuck your self

    Oh, that’s right Duh’merica, you’re incapable of adult behavior under any circumstance, even the life & death kind.

    Curl up and die Duh’merica, you’re a worthless sack of poo.

    Blow it out you’re ass Duh’merican

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    Oroboros
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    Medical NEWS FLASH:

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    Empire of Lies “Department of Problem Solving”

    Here, let me help you solve that……

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    #171623
    Oroboros
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    They wouldn’t come out of the shadows, being cowards and all….

    So Decapitate them, literally, and piss down their neck holes, that should do the trick

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    Oroboros
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    More “voting advice”

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    Oroboros
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    Grow the fuck up Duh’merica

    Oh, that’s right, you can’t, you’re a “special needs country”

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    Oroboros
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    #171628
    Oroboros
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    Government

    Learn how to fuck them right back

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    Oroboros
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    Duh’merica

    Get Out the Vote Public Service Announcement

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    Oroboros
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    In the Empire of Lies All Roads Lead Away From the Truth

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    Oroboros
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    Remember on “election day” if you see this sign, it’s too late

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    Dora
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    The Democrats release an ad attacking Jill Stein, a third-party candidate, 3 weeks before the election.

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    Oroboros
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    #171636
    zerosum
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    Free speech
    Opinion
    Parallel universes
    Opinion manipulators exist (Democrats and Republicans)
    It’s all in your head
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    Alternate history lesson
    The Road to War
    Paul Craig Roberts
    October 15, 2024

    This site offers factual information and viewpoints that might be useful in arriving at an understanding of the events of our time. We believe that the information comes from reliable sources, but cannot guarantee the information to be free of mistakes and incorrect interpretations. IPE has no official position on any issue and does not necessarily endorse the statements of any contributor.

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    • Trust in US News Media Hits Record Low – Gallup (RT)

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    Vladimir Zelensky’s so-called ‘victory plan’
    https://www.scmp.com/news/world/europe/article/3282617/zelensky-unveils-victory-plan-ukraine-faces-precarious-moment-war?module=perpetual_scroll_0&pgtype=article

    President Volodymyr Zelensky presented Ukraine’s much-debated victory plan at parliament on Oct. 16, though some parts remained classified.

    The proposal is comprised of five points: an invitation to join NATO, a defense aspect, deterrence of Russian aggression, economic growth and cooperation, and post-war security architecture.

    The plan involves three secret addenda that have been shared with international partners. David Arakhamia, the ruling party’s parliamentary leader, said the classified parts would be presented to faction leaders.

    “If the plan is supported, we can end the war no later than next year,” Zelensky said in the parliament in the presence of Commander-in-Chief Oleksandr Syrskyi, military intelligence chief Kyrylo Budanov, and Western diplomats.
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    https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-lebanon-gaza-hamas-10-16-24-intl-hnk/index.html
    Israel’s plan to strike Iran is ready, source says
    By Alex Stambaugh, Kathleen Magramo, Jessie Yeung and Antoinette Radford, CNN
    Updated 7:59 AM EDT, Wed October 16, 2024

    Lebanese authorities say the number of Israeli attacks in Lebanon has passed 10,000. Israel struck Beirut’s southern suburbs for the first time in several days. And the mayor of a southern Lebanese city was killed in a strike on Wednesday, according to state media.

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    zerosum
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    Reflection
    Doe anyone expects the U.S to have a free and scrupulously fair and legal election, so that the result will be accepted by everyone.

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    Just Some Randomer
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    @Zerosum

    I certainly don’t expect the election to be fair, scrupulously or even approximately. I would further add that while I have zero expectation of it being legal in every case, we must also consider that some parts of the country have been specifically legislating to permit blatantly irregular activities – making them ‘Legal’ but not fair.

    I am genuinely of the opinion that no matter what the announced results of the voting or, more precisely, of the vote counting are, a very large part of the population will not accept them. There’s a lot of hyperbole out there on the interwebs about the possibility of civil war/conflict/whatever post election, and it’s not easy to dismiss the thought of a ‘Fiery but definitely not mostly peaceful’ scenario out of hand.

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    Oroboros
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    Noirette
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    re. prev. thread.

    Conversation. jbhb, the very appellation Human Ressources is nuts. (I once knew someone who taught a course on HR, absolute rubbish.) Ppl who are remunerated for their work, are, ppl / workers / employees / staff / and down the chart, the team in charge of repair, etc.

    This HR stuff is an added layer to ‘management’ that absorbs or grabs a good chunk of cash / profits, and engages in weird social engineering. Though one needs to distinguish between what used to be called Personnel Admin (in a large Co./Entity, in charge of payments, empl. records, deductions for pensions, etc.) which is (was) legit, who now call themselves *HR specialists.*

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    News.

    On: “US Emergency Workers Hunted by Militia” (Wapo.)

    U.S. Military Now Authorized to Kill Americans on U.S. Soil?

    New DoD Directive Drops.

    Just ahead, intriguingly, of the November elections, the U.S. military has granted itself permission to unleash “lethal force” on the civilian population in cases of “national security” emergency. (…)

    As the U.S. prepares for one of the most controversial and closely watched elections in its history, a concerning update to DoD Directive 5240.01 has quietly been put into effect. Reissued on September 27, 2024, this directive governs the Department of Defense’s (DoD) intelligence activities and now includes provisions authorizing lethal force in certain circumstances when assisting civilian law enforcement. While the directive forbids assassination, it opens the door to lethal interventions under “national security” conditions (…)

    https://armageddonprose.substack.com/p/us-military-now-authorized-to-kill

    article has many legal details I can’t address, but imho but the direction is clear and should be of concern….

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    Oroboros
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    Anyone seen a reason why the X videos no longer embed/show? It’s a nuisance. I may have to steal some of Oroboros’ pics to live up the place.

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    D Benton Smith
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    The Sophia Loren in the photo looks very much like my wife, Ruey, when both were of the same age. Eat your hearts out, dudes. And she’s as smart as she is good looking. In fact the only down side to our 51 year matrimony is that she is as 100% German as any Rhine maiden of lore, and consequently quite challenging to cohabitate with successfully. But, I’m a diligent worker and can report that so far so good.

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    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @jb-hb
    It’s a war of attrition because “attrition” is what the Russians see as necessary to the attainment of their strategic objective, which is to eliminate the threat that America currently proactively poses to Russian national security.

    As such, the mere defeat of Ukraine would be completely inadequate because that circumstance would leave NATO and the United States still strong enough to fight again another day after upgraded rearmament, and maybe successfully that time. Why take the chance when there is a better and more durable solution? It makes little sense to just kick such a ‘guaranteed-to-be-dangerous’ can down the road when it is possible to kick them OFF of the road entirely, into a hole that they are digging for themselves, and thereby removing themselves( to THEMSELVES , fer crying out loud!) as a serious threat to ANYONE for generations to come?

    “America” [and I use the term loosely] wants Russia weakened to the point that it becomes a helpless victim and unable to prevent the Great Western Vampire Squid from sucking Russia DRY of its natural and national resources. We all know for certain that the US does indeed full INTEND to do precisely that, by the way. That specific goal is not an unintentional consequence of the Collective West defending itself, or a bright idea that just suddenly popped into their head out of nowhere. It is its primary and motivating OBJECTIVE. The current batch of NeoCons aren’t the first or only ones who explicitly declared devouring Russia whole to be their goal. The NeoCons and Zionist’s are merely the latest iteration of the rapine beast known as EMPIRE.

    That nasty urge is what MAKES them into an Empire, it’s by action and intent. It isn’t merely the defining characteristic of Empire. It is the CAUSITIVE characteristic. The desire and intention to rob others to serve self is both part and parcel of an Empire’s plan and purpose in the first place. That purpose is to rape, pillage and burn as the DELIBERATELY CHOSEN BEST means of acquiring, holding and WIELDING wealth and power. The “burning down” part of the technique is to ensure that the same helpless victim can be raped, pillaged and burned again later on, and more easily next time due to the victim’s perpetually weakened state.

    The perpetual maintenance of divided and weakened vassal states and outright slave colonies is what ALL Empires do, because that is what is NECESSARY to do in order to become and continue to be a hegemonic Big Dog.

    That’s where attrition comes into play, as the right tool for the right job.Taking down the Big Doc when it goes rabid requires attrition. The reasons and reasoning of why attrition is the best method is probably better understood by examining the etymological history of the word, “attrition”.

    attrition (n.)
    From early 15c. Old French, attricioun, “a breaking.” From the1540s the word has been used in the sense of “abrasion, scraping, the rubbing of one thing against another,” from the Latin “attritionem”:  (nominative verb form:  attritio”), literally meaning “a rubbing against,” noun of action from past-participle stem of “atterere “to wear, rub away,” figuratively “to destroy, waste”.

    The sense of “wearing down of military strength” is from World War I (1914). Figurative use of that became common usage in the 1930s.

    Back formation of attrition, as the verb “attrit” was first used in military parlance by the U.S. Air Force in 1956.To “attrit” means to “wear down or grind down by means of sustained actions,” It attained currency during the Vietnam War. Related: Attritted; attritting; attrition [End of Definition]

    Based on those definitions and history it sounds like things haven’t changed much since Latin was the common tongue.

    It is literally BAD STRATEGY to hurt your enemy so severely that they sue for peace immediately to preserve their power. That approach leaves them both still well armed, still well financed and STILL YOUR ENEMY.

    The correct strategy is to wear them down to nothing (literally!) by manipulating them into CONTINUING to waste their resources in a fruitless effort to maintain their hegemonic thirst for empire. Start SLOWLY taking away what the Empire needs (Ukraine for example, or the Dollar as World Reserve Currency). The Empire will then compulsively waste the lives of it’s soldiers, the existence of the critically valuable armaments, and viability of its currency in the fruitless effort to KEEP that threatened bit of property. They literally CANNOT not do that. Properly and PATIENTLY handled attrition can continued until the enemy has removed itself entirely. When the inner circle of the Empire has canceled, expelled or eaten the last of its young, then it simply is no more. It is gone. By its own hand (with a little help from its former and intended next victims).

    After that it’s just the simple and PATIENT process of exterminating those soldiers and destroying that armament. Obviously this only works if you are, in reality, stronger and more durable than your enemy. You can’t “wear the other guy down” very effectively if you’re wearing down faster than he is and don’t have the surplus resources to get you through.

    So, by all means keep the pressure on by means of judiciously effective steps to take back what the Empire has taken. These judiciously measured steps are carefully intended to NOT defeat the enemy, but to make such a defeat so possible and likely that the Empire is compelled to throw its human and material resources into your carefully prepared “meat grinder”. In other words, create circumstances that COMPELL your adversary to sacrifice its troops and armament (and be made weaker by the day), at much much smaller expense to you (who becomes stronger by the hour).

    That progression has an unavoidably singular conclusion. But ya have to stick with it and not be tempted to “CRUSH!!!! your enemy. “CRUSHING” enemies doesn’t pay for shit. Attrit them instead, and then buy and sell stuff with them as willing partners. It sure pays better, and far far fewer people have to die for it.

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    Just Some Randomer
    Participant

    @DBS: “The correct strategy is to wear them down to nothing (literally!) by manipulating them into CONTINUING to waste their resources in a fruitless effort to maintain their hegemonic thirst for empire.”

    Quite so. You might recall that this is exactly the strategy adopted by Osama Bin Laden.

    In his media appearances and addresses throughout the 1990s and early 2000s, Bin Laden carefully laid out the strategy by which he would antagonise and provoke the West, through the use of escalating terrorist attacks, into “bleeding wars.” It was by these wars that Bin Laden stated that he would exhaust and bankrupt the United States and its Western allies.

    Source: https://www.internationalaffairs.org.au/australianoutlook/a-strategic-victory-for-osama-bin-laden/#:~:text=In%20his%20media%20appearances%20and,he%20would%20exhaust%20and%20bankrupt

    And of course we fell for it because the prospect of a forever war to feed the MIC was too tempting to pass up.

    #171651
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @JustSomeRandomer

    Yup. It’s working like a charm. At some point, however, the strategy progresses to the point that the former empire collapses for realsies, and it is at that juncture that the attrition strategy oft goes awry. The temptation is to conquer, occupy and colonize the collapsed Empire. “Don’t do it, Batman! It’s a trap!”

    It’s a tempting trap, alright, and guaranteed 100% fatal if taken internally. “CRUSH!!!” that enemy! Take his stuff!, SUBJUGATE that arrogant sonuvabitch! Great idea, numbskulls! Turn 90% of a friendly population into enemies as revenge against the 10% who done you wrong. What could go wrong?

    Naw. Don’t “CRUSH!!!” anybody who you don’t absolutely have to as a last and critically necessary resort. Just keep attritting them until all but the last small handful of the irrecoverably insane see the error of their own ways by their own free will. Keep the bloodshed to a minimum as best you can without actually losing anything important.

    #171652
    zerosum
    Participant

    Ask the Jewish demonstrators.
    Making changes is hard to do if you are not the one with the power.
    ———
    It’s easy. Find the right dominoes and you’ll be able to lower the price of energy.

    ———–

    #171653
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Speaking of “attritting”

    Russian capture 5 Ukronazi soldiers from a “penal” battalion

    Soldiers who were criminals in Ukronaziland thrown into the Russian meat grinder.

    Nobody will miss them.

    But they were sharp enough to surrender first.

    What were all five of them in jail for before being in the Ukronaziland army?

    “What were you locked up for?”

    “Rape”

    “All five of you?”

    “Yes”

    Hahahahahaha

    Nazilensky is scraping the bottom of the barrel

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/xDiSXJnXqQiS

    #171655
    Oroboros
    Participant

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    #171656
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Unlike Obomber….

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    #171658
    zerosum
    Participant

    Example:
    Power/gov. are over reaching against, peace, cease fire demonstration.

    https://globalnews.ca/news/10812072/samidoun-canada-terrorist-entity/
    Samidoun, group behind ‘death to Canada’ chant, listed as terrorist entity

    By Sean Previl Global News
    Posted October 15, 2024

    The Canadian and U.S. governments have designated the Pro-Palestinian group ‘Samidoun’ as a terrorist entity and added one of its Vancouver-based organizers to a U.S. terror watch list. Rumina Daya reports.

    Canada has listed Samidoun, a pro-Palestinian group behind a rally where people chanted “death to Canada” and burned the Canadian flag in Vancouver earlier this month, as a terrorist entity.

    Public Safety Minister Dominic LeBlanc made the announcement on Tuesday and noted that the listing was made alongside the U.S. Treasury Department’s own decision to list the group as a specially designated global terrorist entity.

    “Violent extremism, acts of terrorism or terrorist financing have no place in Canadian society or abroad,” LeBlanc said in a statement.

    “The listing of Samidoun as a terrorist entity under the Criminal Code sends a strong message that Canada will not tolerate this type of activity, and will do everything in its power to counter the ongoing threat to Canada’s national security and all people in Canada.”

    #171659
    zerosum
    Participant


    Zelensky’s Ultimatum To The West
    On The Brink Of Defeat
    Military Summary 2024.10.16

    #171660
    WES
    Participant

    Just remember the sole purpose for admitting the Ukraine into Nato/EU is to put European taxpayers on the hook to guarantee the full face value of all Ukrainian government issued bonds (held by BlackRock).

    Rule # 1: Don’t ever forget that!

    #171661
    John Day
    Participant

    Not Legally Justified https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/not-legally-justified

    Paul Craig Roberts looks at the implications of declaring that the US Army can go in with the intention to kill Americans if the Secretary of Defense approves it.
    The Biden Regime Has Just Issued a Very Suspicious Directive Permitting Military Intervention in US Domestic Affairs terrists
    The Department of Homeland Security has flagged individuals questioning COVID-19 origins, vaccine efficacy, and election integrity as potential domestic terrorism threats. Is a coup being set in place?
    A new Department of Defense directive 5240.01 issued September 27, 2024, just prior to the November presidential election allows the US military to use lethal force against American citizens in assisting police authorities in domestic disturbances.
    A report on this development lists these civil liberties concerns:
    Right to protest: There are fears that expanded authority could suppress legitimate protests.
    Privacy rights: Increased military involvement in domestic intelligence gathering could infringe on privacy.
    Due process: The military’s role in law enforcement could bypass standard due process protections.
    Freedom of speech: The broad definition of “national security threats” could target individuals for their political beliefs…
    ..Here are some Constitutional concerns:
    Challenging the Posse Comitatus Act: This Act traditionally limits the powers of the federal government in using military personnel for domestic law enforcement… ..Unless Trump cuts a deal with Democrats not to hold them accountable and also a deal with the Ruling Elite not to interfere with their control, I can see no way that either will permit Trump to be President.
    The Biden regime and the Trump Justice (sic) Department and FBI are criminal operations. I can see indictments and arrests for those who have weaponized law enforcement. The Ruling Elite and leading Democrats such as Hillary Clinton and John Kerry can all be arrested, honestly unlike Trump and his supporters, for insurrection as they have openly called for the overthrow of the United States by demanding the overthrow of the First Amendment of the US Constitution. No fooling, this is treason. The US is the Constitution. https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2024/10/14/the-biden-regime-has-just-issued-a-very-suspicious-directive-permitting-military-intervention-in-us-domestic-affairs/

    Meryl Nass MD points out that it is not a law, passed by Congress, but a Department of Defense “directive”: DOD challenges Posse Comitatus doctrine: issues directive saying the US military can kill Americans on US soil https://merylnass.substack.com/p/dod-challenges-posse-comitatus-doctrine

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