Debt Rattle October 28 2024
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October 28, 2024 at 5:15 pm #172783wdtParticipant
>The rest of us do this all the time because we have to (admit error)
No, 90% of people have a LOT of trouble with this, that is why nearly everything is so FUOroborus: your dot micro-fiche device is broken, whenever I apply microscope to the screen I see nothing
Re Musk: does he not know the scale of things? or just another BSer?
The sun loses 2T of mass PER SECOND, that is an unimaginable amount of energy,
absolutely humungous. What could you possibly do with so much energy? Or store it?
2T of anti-matter …. PER SECOND?….. mind bogglingOctober 28, 2024 at 5:34 pm #172784OroborosParticipantThe Epstein = Diddy Control Files
It is extortion racket for blackmail, control and influence, not money
Wall St = Hollywood = Washington
Siamese Triplets joined at the hipIn corporate mafia lingo, an Interlocking Directorate of Satanic Perversion
Child sex, torture and ritual sacrifice held over the heads of the PMC
Musk was asked about this by Tucker who said he guessed at least 100 of the Fortune 500 CEO were neck deep in this nightmare.
(Waking up in a strange room at a ‘private party’ in Hollywood, DC, Wall St after the horse tranquilizer in your spiked drink wears off with a Polaroid of you having sex with a five year old)
You-will-do-anything-They-tell-you-to-do-after-thatOctober 28, 2024 at 5:40 pm #172785OroborosParticipantDemonrat Kamala la-la Cunt staffer after screaming in the face of a baby
If she had screamed like that in my baby’s face I would have beaten her face off to a bloody pulp and stuffed it up her ass
October 28, 2024 at 5:44 pm #172786OroborosParticipantI’m glad to see the Duh’merican Dream is still live
October 28, 2024 at 5:46 pm #172787OroborosParticipantEverything you need to know about the Empire of Lies in one paragraph
October 28, 2024 at 5:48 pm #172788OroborosParticipantWoketurds of the World Unite!
October 28, 2024 at 5:50 pm #172789John DayParticipant“Consortium News” is not internet porn…
News Site Known For Being Fiercely Critical Of US Foreign Policy Hacked, Removed From Web https://www.zerohedge.com/political/wikileaks-news-site-known-being-fiercely-critical-us-foreign-policy-hacked-removed-webOctober 28, 2024 at 5:52 pm #172790OroborosParticipantOctober 28, 2024 at 6:04 pm #172791Michael ReidParticipantInterview: US Headed for Civil Unrest & Sucession
October 28, 2024 at 6:12 pm #172792OroborosParticipantKamala Staph Infection spreading Joy by yelling at a baby
October 28, 2024 at 6:14 pm #172793OroborosParticipantIf Ideology was Physique
October 28, 2024 at 6:59 pm #172794October 28, 2024 at 7:45 pm #172795John DayParticipantTrump packed 20,000 inside Madison Square Garden and 75,000 outside, while Giuliani vogued Zio-Hitler.
Worst. Nazi. Rally. Ever. https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2024/10/27/worst-nazi-rally-ever-n4933703
October 28, 2024 at 8:46 pm #172796jb-hbParticipantDemocrats outside Madison Square Garden holding swastika signs
(hey, just like the Democrats with the Tiki Torches. When the demand for Nazis vastly exceeds the supply….)
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October 28, 2024 at 8:58 pm #172797OroborosParticipantOctober 28, 2024 at 9:00 pm #172798OroborosParticipantAnd now a word from an NYC commie
October 28, 2024 at 9:02 pm #172799jb-hbParticipantPorn Addicts For Kamela?
no. leftists meatsuited PORN also! They ruined that too!
I’ll try not to go into depth, but there are various types that have been invaded and spammed such that you cannot find the degeneracy you LIKE anymore due to the DOS attack of depravity you didn’t ask for.
And in the COMMENTS are of snarling leftist weirdos, with the typical “That thing is ME. I OWN that. You do NOT own that, I do. Now make it MORE LIKE ME.”
So it is to the point where I just don’t want to search for porn because I just cannot be bothered to search through 1000 instances of things I didn’t want to see with 500 comments from snarling weirdos to find the one thing that was the actual thing, easy to find, like 4-8 years ago.
lol giving up on porn not due to a change in morality, but a combination of exasperation and boredom.
October 28, 2024 at 9:03 pm #172800OroborosParticipantThe Demonrats of Califoricate
Gavin Gruesome just in time the Holidays!Happy Thanksgiving
October 28, 2024 at 9:31 pm #172801OroborosParticipantWhat a Woketurd Military Industrial Mafia thinks up
Progress is our most important productTruly the sign of a terminally phucked up “society”
Words fail me.
Not from the Babylon Bee
US Army Looking To Develop Biodegradable Bullets That Turn Into Plants
October 28, 2024 at 9:54 pm #172802aspnazParticipanthttps://usafacts.org/articles/who-pays-the-most-income-tax/
Trump’s tarrifs will pass the joy down to the poor people, ensuring that the rich are not left paying the majority of the government’s income. Yet another transfer of wealth to the rich. What else would you expect from a bunch of billionaires deciding tax policy.
October 28, 2024 at 10:20 pm #172803jb-hbParticipantPurchase the imported goods WITH WHAT JOBS, eh?
And yeah, the US was doomed in the 40’s, 50’s, and 60’s. Nobody could buy anything.
As you say, the US middle class was practically nonexistent due to all that domestic manufacturing.
October 28, 2024 at 10:26 pm #172804jb-hbParticipantManufacturing your own goods is bad and benefits the wealthy at the expense of the working class.
Having someone across the Pacific manufacture them is good.
Trump is just trying to do what is best for China, especially the working class in China.
A little gratitude?
October 28, 2024 at 11:56 pm #172805analoguyParticipantDr D Rich.
Do you sideline as a fundamentalist preacher?
You keep speaking in tongues.October 29, 2024 at 12:06 am #172806poppieParticipantYo, aspnaz. Do you have an ass or does it all come back up out your mouth. What taxes dont pass down to the poor.
October 29, 2024 at 1:02 am #172807aspnazParticipantjb-hb said
Purchase the imported goods WITH WHAT JOBS, eh?
At the moment the rich pay the vast majority of taxes that support the US government. I am sure you know plenty of rich people and they generally spend their money on expensive goods, such as real wood furniture made in the USA. They also probably buy most of their clothes, linen, food, education, etc made in the USA and their cars from Germany. The people who need cheap goods are the middle and working classes; their net incomes have been decreasing for decades, even from before the US elites’ (biggest tax payers) moved manufacturing to China.
Indeed, how will the average US citizen afford his China-made 1000 USD iphone after it has 100% tarrifs on it and now costs 2000 USD? So they bring manufacturing back to the USA, for it to be profitable it will have to be heavily automated, so not many new jobs, but the increased cost keeps the phone at 2000 USD. The end result is massive inflation and will require a massive increase in net income to maintain standards of living.
Looking at US exports, their domestic iphones will be 2000 USD, but you can bet your ass that the rest of the world can still buy China-made iphones for 1000 USD. Will Trump penalise companies that make goods abroad? Unlikely, that would drive away most US companies.
How is this competing? It isn’t, it is hiding away from the world.
Then you have the scientific research and engineering development that is supposed to back up all these technology companies. So you will have to fix academia. Good luck with that.
Then consider that China has quite high labour costs already, so the Chinese economy is the biggest user of automation in the world. The vast majority of stuff like electronics is put together by automation, not by people. For the USA to compete, they too will have to invest in massive automation, rather than in jobs. Although tarrifs sound good – you are punishing the bad guys – they actually just strangle the economy.
Then consider that China is one of the world’s biggest markets, tarrifs will cut the USA off from that market and will instead rely on a self-immolating Europe to buy its exports.
Tarrifs are a bad idea, especially for the poorer people. A much better idea would be to spend money on the failing US infrastructure and pull the country into the 21st century. At the same time the USA should rid itself of its suffocating regulation – like 95% of it – that causes it to be so hideously expensive as a place to make anything. Even your weapons require massive QA traceablility, making them cost multiples of their real value, simply because the government is imposing unnecessary overhead costs on everything. The multimeter you use to check a cicuit in a shell for a howitzer will have to have traceable calibration etc etc and that shell will have its own record of who did the QA, which test instruments were used, where the instruments were calibrated etc etc. You think China does that? You will never compete with China unless you get rid of that regulation and the nonsense about C02, climate change etc.
With infrastructure spending at least the whole economy gets a boost and you are investing in yourselves. But unfortunately, the USA has been spending its spare cash on the military and Ukraine, and of course there is nothing to show for it, just a bunch of rusting weapons in the dessert somewhere. The beneficiaries of that military spending are unlikely to be happy seeing their slice of the cake cut, so the USA will continue with ridiculous overheads for everybody.
October 29, 2024 at 1:14 am #172808aspnazParticipantpoppie said
Yo, aspnaz. Do you have an ass or does it all come back up out your mouth. What taxes dont pass down to the poor.
Yeah, whatever. Try reading this:
Most of the government’s federal income tax revenue comes from the nation’s top income earners. In 2021, the top 5% of earners — people with incomes $252,840 and above — collectively paid over $1.4 trillion in income taxes, or about 66% of the national total. If you include the top 10% — everyone who made at least $169,800 — that figure rises to $1.7 trillion, or 76% of the total.
The top 50% of earners contributed 97.7% of federal income tax revenue.
That page shows that the vast majority (97.7%) of the government’s income tax income comes from the top 50% of earners. Of course the poor pay taxes, but the total amount you pay to the government is much less than the other 50%. The government could easily operate without taxes from 50% of workers, but it could not operate without the taxes from the top 50%. With tarrifs replacing income tax, the top 50% will be paying much lower taxes, say 70% of tarrifs and the poor 50% will now be paying the other 30% of tarrifs or will go without their necessities.
The point is that this is a movement of the tax burden onto the poor. Sure, you can claim that the poor always suffer, but actually the poorest 50% of earners actually only pay 2.3% of all income taxes.
October 29, 2024 at 3:01 am #172809WESParticipantBroken China:
China has major structual and demographic problems facing it’s economy.
Local and regional banks are failing.
A big issue now is the CCP’s recent shift towards increased centralized political and economic control of the country.
Economic control is being achieved by directing the recent stimulus towards only the largest financial players.
This is centralized top-down economic control.
Private companies will soon find it difficult to obtain new credit slowing it’s ability to navigate a changing world.
The dynamic bottom-up economy will suffer from lack of innovation going forward and stagnate.
China’s future growth rate is expected to slow as the CCP strives to increase it’s political control.
China now faces a future much like Japan.
Low growth, high youth unemployment, falling birth rates, etc.
It remains to be seen how China handles these Japanese challenges going forward.October 29, 2024 at 4:34 am #172810aspnazParticipanthttps://t.me/Anlystintel/20741
If you’re not sure why the media is so biased when it comes to Israel/Palestine, remember that MSNBC’s executive producer was literally an Israeli military intelligence commander.
October 29, 2024 at 4:55 am #172811WESParticipantDemocrat Party’s Anti-Child Karen Official:
I think that Democratic Party’s Karen official screaming in a child’s face, was just upset that the mother of that child had not chosen the Democratic method for children: abortion!
Children are not to be seen!
She won’t have to resign but instead will be promoted!October 29, 2024 at 6:03 am #172812aspnazParticipantIn a story whose framing should have been unthinkable – but sadly was all too predictable – CNN reported on the psychological trauma some Israeli soldiers are suffering from time spent in Gaza, in some cases leading to suicide.
Committing a genocide can be bad for your mental health, it seems. Or as CNN explained, its interviews “provide a window into the psychological burden that the war is casting on Israeli society”.
The Jews forever the victims, even when they are genociding the Palestinians. Sick fucks.
October 29, 2024 at 6:20 am #172814Dr D RichParticipant@Anal-O-Guy
Thanks!
I’m honored by your attention….rare.
I’m even more honored that you see “it”, my attempt to draw on my inner Drd and produce gibberish on par with the Great Man/Woman.
You chose “speaking in tongues” rather than gibberish and I’ll go with it.Here’s Boeing and their fundamentalism, you know, in their own words, pressured writing, run on sentences, obscurantism at its best or worst.
Choose a side.Boeing’s priority:
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CFO Brian West told analysts at the Morgan Stanley conference that Boeing “will take any necessary actions” to preserve its investment grade rating and beef up its balance sheet.
(((Typically, no mention of astronauts marooned or employess “let go”)))
More ZH to Boeing:
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At all costs, Boeing must protect its investment-grade rating
Here’s the “tongues” you referenced straight from Boeing’s “bookies”:
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Holders of the Depositary Shares will be entitled to a proportional fractional interest in the rights and preferences of the Preferred Stock, including conversion, dividend, liquidation and voting rights, subject to the provisions of a deposit agreement. The Preferred Stock is expected to have a liquidation preference of $1,000 per share. Unless earlier converted, each share of Preferred Stock will automatically convert, for settlement on or about October 15, 2027, into a variable number of shares of Common Stock based on the applicable conversion rate, and each Depositary Share will automatically convert into a number of shares of Common Stock equal to a proportionate fractional interest in such shares of Common Stock. The dividend rate, conversion terms and other terms of the Preferred Stock will be determined at the time of pricing of the offering of the Depositary Shares. Currently, there is no public market for the Depositary Shares or the Preferred Stock. Boeing intends to apply to list the Depositary Shares on the New York Stock Exchange under the symbol “BA.PRA.”
The Boeing Company [NYSE: BA] (“Boeing” or the “Company”) announced today the launch of concurrent separate underwritten public offerings of (i) 90,000,000 shares of common stock, par value $5.00 per share (“Common Stock”) of the Company and (ii) $5 billion of depositary shares (“Depositary Shares”), each representing a 1/20th interest in a share of newly issued Series A Mandatory Convertible Preferred Stock, par value $1.00 per share (“Preferred Stock”), of the Company (together, the “Offerings”). Boeing expects to grant to the underwriters of the Offerings a 30-day option to purchase up to an additional (i) 13,500,000 shares of Common Stock and (ii) $750 million of Depositary Shares, solely to cover over-allotments, if any. Boeing intends to use the net proceeds from the Offerings for general corporate purposes, which may include, among other things, repayment of debt, additions to working capital, capital expenditures, and funding and investments in the Company’s subsidiaries.
Two of those sentences ran 61 and 71 words respectively.
Come on. Offer an opinion as to the identity of The Bag Man
October 29, 2024 at 2:43 pm #172862phoenixvoiceParticipantIt isn’t that the idea of reparations is always wrong, but it is ridiculous that people who never owned slaves be forced to make reparation payments to people who never were slaves!
Reparations would have been appropriate in the generations when slavery was discontinued — if actual former slave owners had compensated actual former slaves for the labor that they had performed. However, the political will to do this did not exist in those generations, so it didn’t happen.
Economic inequality exists for many reasons. It can be due to ill luck as much as due to personal failings. Sometimes, the “fault” will never be rectified. So what? The answer is to move on. Just move on.
As a society, it is incumbent upon us to help out those who are falling behind. The great religions teach this. If we discharge this responsibility well then, as the generations pass, much of the negative fall out from slavery will slowly be erased.
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