Debt Rattle September 13 2021
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September 13, 2021 at 8:46 am #87038
Raúl Ilargi Meijer
KeymasterPablo Picasso The actor 1904 • High Death Rate Among Vaccinated Brings Vaccine Dystopia Into View (Hirschhorn) • Singapore 80% Double-Vaxxed Bu
[See the full post at: Debt Rattle September 13 2021]September 13, 2021 at 9:45 am #87042V. Arnold
ParticipantI am admittedly burned out on the CV-19 narrative; or whatever ther’re calling it now…
This may well go on forever…and I’ll not have it…
Ya’ll can continue this bullshit…but I’m done…
There is much mischief going on in the name of this virus and I’ll have none of it…
…either way we’re screwed 1,000 ways from Monday….
Get your act together or die…your choice………………………..September 13, 2021 at 10:19 am #87043aspnaz
ParticipantThe Economist is spreading yet more lies.
September 13, 2021 at 10:26 am #87044Raúl Ilargi Meijer
KeymasterThere is much mischief going on in the name of this virus and I’ll have none of it…
I’m kind of fascinated by it. It’s something completely new. And I think we need to tell people about it. It’s not going to get better if we all shut up.
September 13, 2021 at 11:13 am #87045V. Arnold
ParticipantI’m kind of fascinated by it. It’s something completely new. And I think we need to tell people about it. It’s not going to get better if we all shut up.
I’m not advocating we all shut up; what I’m advocating is to act!
…do something…or, possibly stop doing what you’re doing…
Hell…I don’t know…September 13, 2021 at 11:29 am #87046Dr. D
Participant“‘So we came to the hard conclusion through all our research and lab work that Covid-19 was imaginary and fictitious.”
No, clearly there’s something out there. It has specific symptoms and attacks different people than generic seasonal influenza. Naturally they’ve conflated the two on purpose, as NC showed they are fabricating numbers, and I would even follow that they’re being salted and NOT transmitted by aerosols, but there is such a thing.
“Unvaxxed Kentucky Health Care Workers Force Hospital to Fire Them (GP)”
What the actual??? Is that like how Covid “Forced” us to destroy all small business and cause a couple thousand child suicides? “Warn’t us, no howdy! We’z helpless little darlings.” JHC. So the powerless, the workers, FORCED their bosses to make them lose their jobs. Those darling helpless bosses and capitalists! Victims of the awesome power of workers again! They had no choice but to attack the poor and working class again! You made us do it!
…Said every narcissistic sociopath ever.
…Oh and it’s SO CONTAGIOUS! Super-duper Oooper contagious! Worse than measles and ebola combined – so contagious that NO ONE has natural immunity although they’ve been front line for two years. Uh-huh. You know it, brother. That’s Science™!
Will anyone ever stop this? Even the medical people won’t say the g— d— obvious. STOP NEGOTIATING WITH SERIAL MURDERERS.
Oh and firing all the same medical workers that worked two years of hell in a pandemic, then they’ll cry Hospitals are overrun!!! We have no nurses!!! Honest! (We know ‘cause we fired then all, closed all the beds, and paid ourselves another 6-figures for our sooper-shmartz!)
“Australia prepares for life beyond lockdown upon meeting the government’s 80 per cent target.”
Obviously Singapore just showed 80% isn’t enough. 15 days isn’t enough. Martial law isn’t enough. Vaccines aren’t enough. 2 boosters isn’t enough. Profits of $100,000 per Amazon worker isn’t enough. What does it take for you to realize among the mentally ill there is never enough? There is no surrender. There is no “Following the rules”, “Doing what you’re told.” THEY won’t allow it. THEY can’t stop.
For their mental health and your own, YOU have to stop them. Stop their behavior, lock them up and given them therapy if need be.
Anyway, so back to the REAL narrative, not this fake one, so fake, with so many lies no human can keep track of them all: the Oct 1 federal budget. Yellen says we’ll default. Manchin says no mas. Answer? Cut the overhead costs. Get 1/3 of the employees and contractors to voluntarily quit so you don’t have to pay them.
Prettymuch same plan – so transparent – as shutting down the collapsing economy with a fake narrative to buy control an extra year, and a second year with $40B/mo and $6T in bailouts to pals while hiding the supply shortages and inflation.
That’s the only narrative that matters, because that’s the narrative that’s running the other, fake one. Get rid of #1 and #2 vanishes. Poof. Funny how the answer to environmentalism, CO2 was “Socialism” a system with Party Oligarchs running everything from palatial estates. Funny how the answer to Covid is “Socialism”, a system with Party Oligarchs running everything from palatial estates. Funny the answer to 1/6, terrorism, insurrections, and no chicken at Taco Bell is “Socialism”, a system with Party Oligarchs runing everything from palatial estates. It’s almost like the signed, published plan for 100 years has been Socialism or something.
Of course it will “collapse”, there will be “shortages” of everything, but not really. What’s really happening would be a return to HONESTY. That is, we’ll ADMIT what was true all along: market pricing, so stocks go down and food goes up, the reality of shortages, the lack of workers and manufacturing, and what happens when they intentionally take huge swaths of food production offline by closing plants, sending CA river water to the sea, and other means. But a return to honesty will have this fixed in just a year or four. Like 1921, it will rocket back in no time if you remove the mentally ill stopping it all, trying to steal your natural born rights and sell them back to you like a strangler would sell you air.
Why would I buy that from you when I can punch you in the eye and strangle you to unconsciousness instead? Much more direct and satisfying.
September 13, 2021 at 11:48 am #87047upstateNYer
ParticipantDr D: “… and I would even follow that they’re being salted and NOT transmitted by aerosols …”
I’ve been thinking the same thing.
September 13, 2021 at 11:56 am #87048boilingfrog
ParticipantI can see both views, and i fluctuate between the two, while not obsessing about either. The chickens and gardens and job are all too consuming.
Seeing the bigger picture, in my mind, the “meta-view” if you will, becomes more and more important. It can allow one to NOT get emotional, to see the different sides, to shake one’s head at the absurdity of human behavior, and most importantly, carry on.
Simply carrying on with one’s life rather than ‘lighting one’s hair on fire” (as my mother used to say) is, in fact, doing something. And maybe that small act can be as powerful, in quantity, as carrying a sign. Small, conscious acts, everyday. Quietly planting seeds, facts, in those you come in contact with each day. It’s a small “strike” (to use Denninger’s plea), each day, every day.
In some ways the awareness of the absolute insanity of our so-called “markets” is the same. Make those small decisions each day (in the words of our host): “Hold no debt; Consume less; Relocalize; Increase community self-sufficiency; Reduce dependence on centralized life-support systems”.
At some point in each of our lives a big, dramatic, risky, exhausting step may be called for, but in the meantime tnose small steps ARE action, IMHO.
Hope you continue to check in occasionally, V!
September 13, 2021 at 11:57 am #87049Jim W
Participant“I’m kind of fascinated by it. It’s something completely new. And I think we need to tell people about it. It’s not going to get better if we all shut up.”
I am so grateful that you feel this way. You’ve been a vital trailblazer all through this saga and I pray you’ll have the motivation and fortitude to continue. I sense an upswell of courage and clarity among the unjabbed and regretfully jabbed. We’re in for a long ordeal though…what an extraordinary time to be living through. Thank you RIM for your invaluable contributions!
September 13, 2021 at 12:31 pm #87051Positive Dennis
ParticipantDr. Derek Knauss Is a non existent person. He has done no work, and the 1500 tests never happened. Each of us needs to take additional steps to determine veracity.
September 13, 2021 at 12:41 pm #87052oxymoron
Participantboilingfrog – I feel very much the same way. I also have demands of time and personal ambition (and chickens, orchard, children etc.)
Dr D is spot on. The narrative is cover for Ponzi pull-out. There will be shortages. There will be chaos. There will be rabid attempts to keep the can kicked (albeit by very hostile and radical means right now). Markets don’t function so the world is not functioning. We are playing catch-up. All of this was studied here at TAE and most have prepared accordingly.
The social chaos describes entitlements withdrawn and the social fabric is the screaming child who wants it’s ice-cream back.
Well now they have to wait till they have earned it with hard work not tied to endless printed debt and promises brought forward.
To do that they may have to jump off that zoom meeting and make something.September 13, 2021 at 1:34 pm #87053zerosum
ParticipantThanks TAE
two opinions/narrative that mattersOpinion #1
Success is built on lies
The truth is what I tell you
Accept or “Sue me”https://www.globalresearch.ca/laboratories-us-cant-find-covid-19-one-1500-positive-tests/5754978
Articles by:
Xander Nieuws
Global Research, September 06, 2021CDC sued for massive fraud: Tests at 7 universities of ALL people examined showed that they did not have Covid, but just Influenza A or B –
statistics: ‘Corona’ virtually disappeared, even under mortality.Dr. Derek Knauss:
‘So we came to the hard conclusion through all our research and lab work that Covid-19 was imaginary and fictitious. The flu was only called ‘Covid,’ and most of the 225,000 deaths were from co-morbidities such as heart disease, cancer, diabetes, pulmonary emphysema, etc.. They got the flu which further weakened their immune systems, and they died.’
——–Fact-checked by: Myth Detector
2021/04/22 | Georgia, United States
Explanation: The text spread by Georgian anti-vaxxers allegedly involves remarks by fictional Dr. Derek Knauss. Neither the latter nor his studies can be found in scientific databases. The text contains disinformation, because: 1. COVID-19 is not a new strain of influenza; 2. COVID-19 virus was isolated in several labs. The man featuring in the videos and photos is Patrick Gunnels, a YouTuber, who reads out tweets in his videos. Apparently, he also read out the text in question and was passed off as Dr. Knauss.
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Opinion #2
I agree
Pandemic Brooding
David Holmgren
Melliodora
September 2021
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V. Arnold
I’m not advocating we all shut up; what I’m advocating is to act!
…do something…or, possibly stop doing what you’re doing…
Hell…I don’t know…Hang in there …..Tomorrow will be different
September 13, 2021 at 2:59 pm #87055Raúl Ilargi Meijer
KeymasterLow-vaccinated India has now 60% less Coronavirus deaths than the same week last year.
Mid-vaxxed US is up 39% from last year.
Highly-vaccinated Israel and Canada are up 100% and 200% respectively.
I don’t know why it’s so.
Here is Fauci March 2020:pic.twitter.com/iZO6JArhmp
— Yossi Gestetner (@YossiGestetner) September 5, 2021
September 13, 2021 at 3:26 pm #87057Susmarie108
Participant@boilingfrog and oxy: I am on board with you!
Every small step is valuable, and even more so if done mindfully and with great LOVE.
Hang on V. Arnold!
Worth repeating:
“Simply carrying on with one’s life rather than ‘lighting one’s hair on fire” (as my mother used to say) is, in fact, doing something. And maybe that small act can be as powerful, in quantity, as carrying a sign. Small, conscious acts, everyday. Quietly planting seeds, facts, in those you come in contact with each day. It’s a small “strike” (to use Denninger’s plea), each day, every day.
September 13, 2021 at 3:45 pm #87058generic
ParticipantThere is a good little satire video on YouTube that can be found by searching “Ivermectin Lincoln Project” if you’re in the mood. It has a lot of horse****, but I found it funny. Not significant enough to post here.
September 13, 2021 at 3:53 pm #87059those darned kids
Participanti am not one of facebook’s products. nonetheless, i did find this from WXYZ tv, detroit:
i can only scroll down to comment #52 because facebook doesn’t like me. nonetheless, it’s worth taking a look.
September 13, 2021 at 4:08 pm #87060Mr. House
Participantthought this was good:
“Pandemic of the unvaccinated” has emerged as an expression of propaganda meant to provoke anger toward those who exercise medical choice in deferring or refusing the experimental vaccine. It is meant to isolate, shame, and humiliate anyone who will not agree to surrender medical autonomy to the state. It intentionally divides Americans against one another while simultaneously distracting attention from the medical reality of poor vaccine efficacy and vaccine harm. The expression is devoid of scientific meaning but full of coercive psychological power. It must be challenged.”
September 13, 2021 at 4:55 pm #87062teri
ParticipantSo channel 7 news in Detroit put up a Facebook post that asked people to share stories about their loved ones who died from Covid after refusing a vaccine. (They’re working on some propaganda and would like your help.)
I do not belong to Facebook, so am limited in the number of replies I can read; however, I was allowed to see the first 120 comments (out of a total of over 22,000 generated by the Facebook post) and there was not one story about losing an unvaccinated person to Covid. All but three of the comments I could read were about death or disastrous illness/handicap that happened to people after getting the vaccines. (The 3 outliers consisted of two that mentioned this is childhood cancer month and one that said ‘how about you talk about healthy lifestyles to prevent covid?’)
The stories are heartbreaking. I assume that some are untrue, because, you know – people on Facebook – but still it is shocking to see so many adverse effects from the vaccines all in a row like that.
https://www.facebook.com/80221381134/posts/10158207967261135/?d=n
September 13, 2021 at 6:00 pm #87065phoenixvoice
Participant“ The west Michigan hospital system, which is in the process of merging with Southfield-based Beaumont Health, will grant an exemption to those who have a positive PCR or antigen test for COVID-19 plus a positive antibody test from within the past three months”
Um…do both the positive Covid test and the antibody test have to be within the past 3 months? Or just the antibody test? If it is both, then this is a useless, temporary exemption. “Oh, sure, you can miss the FIRST round of vaccinations, but we’ll get you with endless boosters on the other side if you want to keep your job.”
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Regarding news about the virus, etc.
It is tiresome but it is immediately relevant.I currently teach one piano lesson per week through a local musical non-profit. They don’t pay me enough, but as long as I don’t have to travel anywhere, the student is excited about piano and fun to teach. I sometimes get paid to teach classes at the local retirement community. For both, I get paid off of a 1099. I keep wondering…is Biden’s new rule just mean “employees” or “workers?” If “employees,”.these two jobs will continue. If “workers,” the jobs will not continue. Now, both of these sources of income are lower pay than my other income generating activities, so they are the easiest for me to let go. And, actually, if the music place “let me go” the student’s parent would contact me to set up lessons directly, which would mean me getting my normal rate for teaching the lessons — better for me. If the retirement community “let me go” it would be a great example to those who asked me to teach of the lunacy of what is going…as I’ve taught there virtually for more than a year, and I’m immune while their vaccines don’t confer immunity.
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(Gee whiz…now I’m wondering how many of us on TAE have chickens…)
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TDK
Thx for FB link. It is heartening to skim through all of the comments of people annoyed that the news station is ignoring “the real story” on the ground and instead fishing for the “official” story.September 13, 2021 at 6:43 pm #87066Oroboros
ParticipantREVEALED: 26 out of the 27 Lancet scientists who trashed theory that Covid leaked from a Chinese lab have links to Wuhan researchers
“…Of the 27 scientists who wrote a letter in The Lancet medical journal dismissing the possibility that Covid-19 originated from a Wuhan lab, 26 have links to its Chinese researchers, their colleagues or its benefactors, a new investigation has revealed….”
September 13, 2021 at 6:55 pm #87067upstateNYer
Participant@phoenix: details on Biden’s covid-19 plan are at this link:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/covidplan/
Whether it impacts you or not will probably depend on whether the entities receive federal funding. Vaccination will be required for all Medicaid and Medicare participating hospitals and health care settings, including vaccination of staff who don’t work directly with patients/clients.
September 13, 2021 at 8:17 pm #87071thomasjkenney
ParticipantPanel Of Scientists Determines Most People Don’t Need Boosters; Moderna Plummets
Walk back softly and carry a big sticky note…
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@V.Arnold re: the loquacious loops of lavender
Hang in there, sir! Seems lots of folks are about to crack. Denninger said in a recent thread he’s gonna close up shop…not about money, but more about all avenues of distribution are being blocked for independent authors/journos. Strangely, the request was for more tweets and FBs, but most folks replied with “…I know what you’re after, but f(#< FacePunch!” He, as many of us, can see the starting points for solutions (ignore twit and FB, move on, for one) but can’t execute.
I will try today to make some phone calls I’ve been putting off for too long. I didn’t want to know if some in my circle had ‘joined the cult’ so I simply haven’t attempted contact. I’m dreading the results. I can be good at the soft opening, but I can get really stubborn/pissy if things turn sour in a convo.
Not sure if you old folks appreciate the rock and roll, but here’s Jeff Beck: A Day In The House
“I repeat: Much is being said, My Lords, but nothing, Nothing, NOTHING IS BEING DONE!”
September 13, 2021 at 8:36 pm #87072John Day
ParticipantThanks Veracious Poet, for your personal insights and knowledge of 9/11, particularly the longstanding placement of controlled demolition ordnance. Lots of stories could have been created around that fact, to mollify those who would inevitably know…
“Lucky Larry Silverstein”… what a guy, “we decided to pull it”.
WTC-7 collapsed in freefall time, into it’s own footprint at 5:20PM after BBC had already announced it’s collapse, while it still stood in the window behind the BBC announcer.
The US news cycle missed the event, until it was prevented the next morning as an afterthought. “Another building collapsed later, as a result of the damage.”This justified The Global War On Terror, “WW-3” to Thierry Meyssan, who happened to be in NYC with a film crew on 9/11/2001, and ended up writing 9/11: The Big Lie. He says the empire just lost WW-3. What now? Can this all be negotiated? Is Tom Luongo right that Davos is trying to destroy the US by inducing it to implement self-destructive and dollar-destructive policies? Who might benefit?
September 13, 2021 at 8:37 pm #87073island raider
ParticipantThe top story, citing,“..a death rate of .86 percent among the vaccinated and .17 percent among the unvaccinated..”, is extraordinary. The link is to Trial Site News, which then links directly to the source data, which is: SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern and variants under investigation in England, Technical briefing 20, 6 August 2021. I was able to locate the two most recent Technical Briefings. Summary infection fatality data below for comparison:
Briefing 20, released 8/6, featuring data from 2/1 to 8/2
Vax’d: 402 deaths/47,008 cases = 0.0086 x 100 = 0.86% IFR
Unvax’d: 253/147,612 = 0.0017 = 0.17%Briefing 21, released 8/21, featuring data from 2/1 to 8/15
Vax’d: 679/73,372 = 0.0093 = 0.93%
Unvax’d: 390/183,111 = 0.0021 = 0.21%Briefing 22, released 9/3, featuring data from 2/1 to 8/29
Vax’d: 1091/113,823 = 0.0096 = 0.96%
Unvax’d: 536/219,716 = 0.0024 = 0.24%ADE? Both groups are trending up, but the Vax’d appear to be trending upward more quickly. Likely worse than the data show, too, with them excluding all vax’d prior to 2 weeks after second injection. How are they still pushing this with a straight face. Getting the vaccine now in the UK, increases your risk of dying of Covid by 4 to 5 times.
September 13, 2021 at 8:46 pm #87074Susmarie108
Participant@V.Arnold: “I’m not advocating we all shut up; what I’m advocating is to act!”
Do read the Pandemic Brooding article by David Holmgren. Check out the The Permaculture Flower diagram + notes – which provide a great ROADMAP for taking meaningful action. By investing ourselves (Hearts) in any of the areas identified there, we will make something “flower”. Every small step is valuable, and even more so if done mindfully and with great LOVE.
May beautiful FLOWERS find you.
September 13, 2021 at 9:47 pm #87080phoenixvoice
ParticipantThe White House plan doesn’t address my questions…but it looks like it only is for employees. From the plan:
“ . Studies released by the CDC found that the rate of hospitalization for children was nearly four times higher in states with the lowest vaccination rates compared to states with high vaccination rates.”
Citation? And is this the overall rate of hospitalization for children? Or just children hospitalized who happen to have a positive PCR test? Or children admitted to the hospital with Covid symptoms + PCR positive? And, what are the dates in question? Only one third of al children are currently eligible for vaccines by age, there is no correlation here to % of CHILDREN vaccinated, the vaccine doesn’t stop transmission…so explain how much do these stats even tell us?
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This is an attack on our federalist system — in AZ the legislature outlawed mask mandates and the governor made a portion of school funding contingent upon following ALL state laws. Now the feds are going to go behind the governor’s back and give these schools the funding anyhow? This is like when two parents are feuding and giving conflicting instructions to the children, making the children the proxy battleground. This is inappropriate.
September 13, 2021 at 11:16 pm #87082deflationista
ParticipantYou all have so much in common.
My cousin in Trinidad won’t get the vaccine cuz his friend got it & became impotent. His testicles became swollen. His friend was weeks away from getting married, now the girl called off the wedding. So just pray on it & make sure you’re comfortable with ur decision, not bullied
— Nicki Minaj (@NICKIMINAJ) September 13, 2021
September 13, 2021 at 11:49 pm #87083those darned kids
Participantmy father spent two weeks in hospital and now has difficulty walking.
September 13, 2021 at 11:58 pm #87085deflationista
ParticipantThe last graphic was shared here a couple of weeks ago. It was BS then, and it is BS now:
It's amazing how stuff like this gets created and spread. This is absolute nonsense, but unless you know quite a bit it's hard to understand why https://t.co/nVp0102Fbb
— Health Nerd (@GidMK) September 13, 2021
September 14, 2021 at 12:31 am #87088zerosum
ParticipantTechnology is so good that you cannot believe that your senses are telling the truth.
September 14, 2021 at 12:43 am #87089V. Arnold
ParticipantThanks to all for your support.
Sorry for my temper tantrum; time to get a grip and keep moving forward one step at a time…
The galoots are a vicious breed who’ll stop at nothing to get what they want; we’re living in constant danger, so be ever vigilant…September 14, 2021 at 1:10 am #87090my parents said know
ParticipantV.A.- From my own point of view, go ahead and emote, my friend. As long as you don’t break anything, I’m pretty sure this gang can take it.
I know that my own calm, deep happiness is disturbed.
I try to see anxiety as anticipation, and I’m focusing on that so it isn’t onerous anymore. I try to find nutrients in the excitement of something to do that is truly good.
I’m scared. I’m tired. I’m blue. I’m frustrated. I’m angry. I’m shocked. There’s energy in them thar things.September 14, 2021 at 1:16 am #87091Mister Roboto
ParticipantWow, that Todd Hayen guy who wrote the Off-Guardian article really has deflationista’s number, doesn’t he?
September 14, 2021 at 1:20 am #87092Mister Roboto
ParticipantStudies released by the CDC found that the rate of hospitalization for children was nearly four times higher in states with the lowest vaccination rates compared to states with high vaccination rates.
That statement is so vague as to be meaningless.
September 14, 2021 at 1:43 am #87095V. Arnold
Participant@ my parents said know
I’m scared. I’m tired. I’m blue. I’m frustrated. I’m angry. I’m shocked. There’s energy in them thar things.Thanks MPSK; I’m all of the above also…
September 14, 2021 at 1:44 am #87096deflationista
ParticipantHow can anyone take this kind of shit seriously? It’s getting stewpeter and stewpeter:
Lauren Witzke says that COVID-19 vaccines are "a mass death scale injection" and "a precursor to the Mark of the Beast." pic.twitter.com/bvM4X7M9I2
— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) September 10, 2021
September 14, 2021 at 2:14 am #87097Antidote
ParticipantI take back what I said about you being a smart person. You are actually a mean spirited and hate filled fuck.
The ‘last graphic’ you referred to in one of the posts above is not the one that was posted here. The one that was posted here had a link to the actual paper at the top; medRxiv
Although you pal @Health Nerd claims to be an Epidemiologist in his profile as well as ‘PHDing at @UoW’ …he seems to be a condescending pretentious asshole as yourself.
Just for fun here is one of his science based articles he wrote for the Guardian
September 14, 2021 at 2:42 am #87098zerosum
ParticipantBiden campaign for Newsom had a bad cough. He is sick.
September 14, 2021 at 2:51 am #87099those darned kids
Participant“How can anyone take this kind of shit seriously?”
please inform us, mr. kettle.
September 14, 2021 at 3:30 am #87100Archie
ParticipantThis is a good rant inside Congress.
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