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    Dorothea Lange Hoe culture in the South. Poor white, North Carolina July 1936 Nicole Foss recently participated in a live Google Hangouts (not Skype.
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    Gravity
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    Gravity is an actual algorithm.

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    TonyPrep
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    RE doesn’t really think through what he’s saying. When he talks about reducing electricity demand to just the essentials, with remaining fossil fuels used to help make/repair the much smaller non-renewable infrastructure for renewables, he not only assumes that future generations will figure out how to manage without fossil fuels, as they decline but he also assumes that a vastly reduced market for fossil fuels will still allow fossil fuel companies to profitably (both in money and energy terms) to supply that vastly reduced demand. I don’t think he’s quite cottoned on to the fact that everything is changing. Nicole is absolutely right that you can’t run an industrial economy on renewables. Nor can RE run his SUN economy with them, for very long.

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    V. Arnold
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    @ TonyPrep
    I’m inclined to agree with you. Nicole has obviously thought this through; it was this video-cast where I finally understood Nicole’s position. Previous, I was inclined towards hyperbolic protestations.
    I don’t see this as a sudden event; but a more fluid process. Geographically; different geographical areas will be effected in different ways over time.
    However; we’re all on spaceship earth; there is no escape in the end…
    We’ll pay for our transgressions one way or the other…

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    SteveB
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    Nicole, hearing Gail refer to declining prices in one or two of her comments sparked a thought: might it be more useful to refer to declining profits rather than declining prices, since that’s where the spiraling impact occurs: with the businesses?

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