Tsipras Invites Schäuble To Fall Into His Own Sword
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DPC On the beach, Coney Island 1907 Too many voices the past few days are all pointing the same way, and I’ve always thought that is never good. A gue
[See the full post at: Tsipras Invites Schäuble To Fall Into His Own Sword]Sorry Illargi, i think your hypothesis is a bit of stretch.
I think you’ve invested too much into Tspiras as a character. You must remember that this man is a politician and power isnt know to generally attract people with principles that are unbreaking. There are of course exceptions but theyre very rare.
Im gonna sit on the fence of this issue until the dust settles but my inital reading of the situation is that Tsipras has folded. Whether the corrupt maniancs in Europe end up self destructing anyway remains to be seen…but i guess its all speculation at this point.
The truth will reveal itself soon enough.I’m with you on this Ilargi,
The recent comments on many websites about then being obvious double agents for the elite because of their personal backgrounds may be written by shills or those who are invested in their idea of hopelessness and cannot connect to anything else.
I don’t see Tsipras or YV as double agents or capitulators, As far as I can see, SYRIZA’s actions have a logical consistency and have caused far too much dislocation and damage to the TROIKA and the EU to be any kind of double agents. If Tsipras and his team do capitulate (rather than bait and trap and divide the TROIKA members) it will IMO be under extreme duress, the like of which the TROIKA have been trying to apply and have so far been unsuccessful. They are the real deal.
If Tsipras had folded in the comfort zone of the TROIKA, would we see Schäuble and the others at such odds with each other?Iit seems to me that they have been pushed by the Greeks past the point of cohesion. If it was an easy negotiation for them then the TROIKA members could probably have held their noses and kept their differences private, that is unless they were always hopelessly fractured and it has only just become apparent.
IMO, Tsipras and all other Greek politicians are useless if they don’t acknowledge the End of More. I do realize it would be difficult to remain a Greek politician after making that admission.
Tsipras keeps showing up. Woody Allen said 90% of life is showing up.
That might be the case here.
The Troika wolves expected to have Greece all carved up and consumed well before today.
They are hungry, frustrated wolves, and they are still waiting for their dinner.
I really think that “whatever it takes” to keep stringing this process out is pretty good for revealing reality. The reality is that this expanding-debt-based financial project is coming to it’s inevitable ugly end soon.Brilliant analysis. I think you’ve hit the nail on the head. YV and Tsipras are great game players. And you have articulated exactly what I was getting a glimmering of as I read about Schauble. He finally exploded.
This has been a real news line (unlike most msm news) and I’ve been following it through your posts. (Many thanks again for your blog!) I love the way I just have to laugh at how these guys are playing it. I bet Putin has been watching closely, as he is quite the chess player.
Interesting thought for sure and I do hope your close to being right. The spin on other sites is they have no plan B on how to get money to the citizens and everyone should be scared. Michel Hudson pointed out it would be easy to do electronic IOU and could be done it just a few days. It worked in Calif. no reason it can’t work there. The main thing here to use no western bank for this. In fact throw out not only the eu but nato at the same time for a slap in Amerikas neo-conn face. They all have over played the hand.
The Russians announced today as soon as the BS stops they would send much need fuel and the BRICs said they would help.
Thanks for your updates from Greece.
What we DO know at this point; is that Varoufakis is laughing his nether portions off right now! He is SO glad he is not in the focal point of this big magnifying glass – now burning all the ants in view. He can, today anyway, sit on the sidelines and grin. And I’ll guarantee he’s grinning like crazy. 🙂 And good for him.
I posted a link to this blog post on an eco-socialist e-list and got a response from a local guy I don’t really know. He sent me 2 alternate views of events.(I don’t happen to agree that your view is just wishful thoughts, but a real game-master view.)
‘This is wishful thinking. The first responsibility of any workers’ leader is to maintain the morale of his or her troops. Tsipras’s memorandum has confused (at best) a huge swath of the Greek workers. Here is a report on that from inside Greece. And here are some thoughts on a program that could stand as an alternative to the surrender of the “red lines” which Tsipras had promised he would not cross.’Report From Greece
Posted on July 8, 2015 by oaklandsocialist
“This report is about the economical, political and social situation in Greece. I ‘m 26 years old unemployed Greek and I am member of Xekinima – CWI (Committee of a Workers International) which campaigned along with other left groups in Greece and with SYRIZA for the “NO” vote in last Sunday’s referendum.”
[more] https://oaklandsocialist.com/2015/07/08/report-from-greece-2/Here are some interesting questions he has about what’s going on in Greece.
Greece: Some Thoughts for a Program
Posted on July 12, 2015 by oaklandsocialist
“In every struggle of working class people, clear goals – also known as a program – are necessary. Without that, the struggle inevitably gets led down dead-end streets or into a swamp that only the capitalists can benefit from. From outside, the best socialists can do is raise some thoughts. We hope these bear discussing inside the workers’ movement there.”
[more] https://oaklandsocialist.com/2015/07/12/greece-some-thoughts-for-a-program/Ilargi, perhaps you can float some of these ideas/questions by some of your contacts. there.
I would like to believe that Tspiras has a Plan B. If Varoufakis can now say that Germany wanted to push Greece out all along, then there is no excuse for the failure to make emergency plans. However, the word from all sources, MSM or otherwise, sympathetic to Syriza or otherwise, is that there is no Plan B. If that’s true, Tspiras is no hero. He’s incompetent. I hope I am wrong. I hope there is a secret plan. But I am not holding my breath.
Pretty naive hypothesis… The notion that at Grexit Greece will get “lots of money” is false. And, by the way, have you taken the time to read IMF’s report yourself? Or like most of the commentators, you just go by what newspapers’ headlines say? I fear it is the latter… The nuances make a difference.
Actually, Tsipras capitulated and slowly reveals his intent in leading a coalition of a pro-European center-left (i.e. neo-lib) parties and possibly leave Syriza or try to transform it. He gave everything to “keep Greece into Europe” and himself into power. Which indicates that the Referendum was a sham; people like me where fooled into voting something he never intended to win or use for Greece, or even supported much. When the Ochi (No) unexpectedly won (with a huge margin) despite the polls and all odds, the first thing he did was to meet with all his political opponents and ask for their forgiveness, in what we all though was an insane political move. But it makes sense now: He wanted to step down all along and make everybody co-conspirators into what is none other than the hostile take-over of Greece. When he failed to make the voters say Yes to that, he fired Varoufakis and met with all the pro-austerity party leaders and allied with them “for the common good” and went on begging for money. He even claims he fought hard against the insane Germans and he reached a “decent” agreement and he should be the hero of the day for that. I beg to differ, he just abolished the Hellenic Republic. There is no decency in this. Maybe treachery? But who notices such trivial things! Move along folks! Nothing to see here! Just the battered body of a country!
Cui bono? Well, bad boy Wolfy just won a big something, also. He tricked everyone, by acting as a much darker, deranged version of Varoufakis, threatening to blow up the negotiations in every step. And do you know why? Here is where the plot thickens! Enter KfW, the German bank who’s CEO is none other than… Wolfgang Schauble (talk about a conflict of interest, folks!). KfW is one of the main contributors to the Institute for Growth, the mysterious Luxemburg based fund that will manage some 50 billion of Greek public assets under the new agreement and will keep them as collateral, in case the villainous Greeks try to rebel. Well, not directly. There will be a new Greek fund, other than the current government-controlled HRADF, which I’ll bet will be controlled by the Institute for Growth and KfW, who will be either the majority holders in the Board of Directors or make some of them see the light. You know, just to mask things a little bit. Not bad, is it? All he has to do now is drive the puny Greeks crazy and rebelling over the most insane austerity ever imposed and the titles for 50 billion are delivered to his second office in Luxemburg by courier. Added bonus, he sticks it to the US and NATO (i.e. “Germany’s occupiers”), if Greeks switch sides out of necessity. What did he say back in the 1990’s, over crocodile tears? “I am sorry! I’m so sorry, I won’t do it again!!!” Well, he just did. <Wink!>
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