[edmund.brown]

Regarding the list of numbers –

I think the second half of #5 is actually the weakest. Most of the others I can at least see D’s point. I agree with the first half of #5. Grains are fungible, and easily transported. Root vegetables store fine (see below), but they are mostly water so long distant transport is out of the question on a cost/food calorie basis. Grains are worth shipping around the world.

I guess we could be talking about different vegetables, if you mean “salad greens”, then yes, fair point. But salad greens will never constitute a large share of a person’s daily calories. Many root vegetables store quite well, assuming they’re grown on well mineralized, fertile soil. We eat “out of our garden” through the winter and our roots store in the basement of our old house until May. Once we build a root cellar actually designed with root storage as its purpose we should be able to get to June, which means we’ll have garden veggies year round. Winter squash last a similarly long time. But perhaps by longterm you mean more than one year… grains keep that long thought they’re pretty worthless nutritionally after long storage. But something is better than nothing as you point out.

This is possible on a much larger scale, but perhaps the dietary shift in the consuming public that would be required to push the market in that direction is a bridge too far.

[edmund.brown]

I’ve been sort of out of the internet doom and gloom loop for a while – busy building, growing, raising kids etc…

Have you read any of these reports under the ‘strategy insights’ tab? Some lovely graphs and saying much the same thing TAE has said for years.

https://www.tullettprebon.com/strategyinsights/

I see the author has departed tullet and blogs occasionally at -https://surplusenergyeconomics.wordpress.com/ – recent post is on Japan… interesting stuff.

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