shargash
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I don’t remember hearing about people fleeing Libya while Qaddafi was still in charge. Libya wasn’t all that bad a place to live under Qaddafi, as far was 3rd world countries go (at least according to the OECD’s Human Development Index). Now, however, it is a hell hole, thanks to NATO. And I don’t have to point out the overlap between NATO and the EU.
That, btw, is why everyone is so intent on calling these people “migrants.” If they were called refugees, that would invite the question “just what caused these people to become refugees?”
Yes, I realize not all the refugees are from Libya (though most of the dead have been Libyan). However, the chaos NATO caused in Libya is not confined to Libya, nor is NATO malfeasance confined to Libya.
@TheGreekOne I’m glad to hear that a military coup in Greece is unlikely. I just got back from Argentina, and I talked to a number of people about Chile’s and Argentina’s coups. I don’t think a military coup requires the kind of investment Ukraine required, especially if the military is unhappy with the current government’s policies.
I wonder what the prospect is for a military coup in Greece. It has happened before. Whereas something like 90% of the “bailout” money received by Greece flows back to non-Greek banks, a lot of the remaining 10% goes to the military. I remember a story last year about a large order of tanks that was going to go through despite the collapse of the Greek economy. The generals do like their toys.
Would there be a coup without US support? I think that is unlikely, and the US has recently been making mildly pro-Greek statements. I doubt the US would push regime change on account of the EMU. NATO, on the other hand, is another story. If Syriza pushes for a NATO exit or cozies up to Russia too much, I would expect the US to pull out all the stops to get rid of Syriza, up to and including a coup.
rapier said, “I will only say that it does take two to tango. Declaring independence under force of arms is what has brought the warfare.”
The people of the Donbass held their referendum for secession on May 11th. The government in Kiev declared its Anti-Terrorist Operation on April 8th: “A “full-scale anti-terrorist operation” is under way as pro-Russian activists seize more buildings in the east of the country.”
In other words, warfare came more than a month before “declaring independence under force of arms,” when people in the east were doing the same things the Maidan protesters had been doing in Kiev. They took up arms in response to Kiev’s military assault. It may take two to tango, but it only takes one to start a fight.
