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    Salvador Dali Pianc 1919   • Tulsi Gabbard Qualifies For Fourth Presidential Debate (Hill) • Tulsi Gabbard Refuses To Join Fellow Democrats’ Call
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle September 25 2019]

    #50093
    V. Arnold
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    Salvador Dali Pianc 1919
    Great painting; but! WTF does Pianc mean??

    As to the rest? I’m pretty sure I no longer give 1 shit!
    I know; it’s so selfish of me…
    I’m so far,figuratively and literally, from all this swampish soup of shit, why should I care?
    Most humans, by my reckoning, couldn’t care less about much of anything I/we care about.
    Plus, I see the steady movement forward to oblivion; so, let it come…fuck all and everything…
    Gaia will survive; and that’s all that matters……………..

    #50094
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “..59 percent of adults nationwide opposed the start of impeachment proceedings..”

    Sigh. This is so easy I feel like it must be an ambush from the Left somehow. They are ignoring real people’s issues going face-into an election, getting distracted, no policy like Medicare-for-all accomplished, not hammering Trump on wars in Yemen, etc, and running a do-over of 2016 RussiaRussiaRussia against every will of the people. Because Twitter, I guess?

    Now rumor has it DoJ is indicting Comey, McCabe Thursday so they need some enormous news event to push that off, and Clinton is being methodically chewed up by the piranhas at Judicial Watch, but when your enemy comes out, and says, on camera, in public, “By God I can only hope and pray you impeach on the same thing Joe Biden did, without evidence, without a transcript, with a partisan Deep State Whistleblower, so we can smash front-runner Biden on HIS selling of Justice for Russia (aka Ukraine, apparently no one can tell the difference), and leave the Democratic Party in tatters,” then maybe you should think twice and listen a little?

    The people don’t want this. They don’t want a do-over of 2016. They want policy answers and are p—–d. They’re openly flipping to Trump everywhere, as he gains with minorities and in blue districts, takes all the gun-owning Union Democrats that we-already-know-he-won in 2016. And their answer is? More do-overs, more media, more vilification, more accusations, more impeachment, more Russia. More war, more abandonment of the working class, more undermining of American traditions and values, more attacks on families, less policy. It’s supernatural. I can’t believe I’m seeing this strategy. It’s like watching someone dismember themselves on camera, limb by limb. I don’t want to watch. Get Tulsi, get the working class, get out of the wars and corruptions, go back to being Democrats.

    But okay: don’t say he didn’t warn you. Going against democracy, the insiders attacking every will of the people is just what is happening in Brexit, and it won’t end well there either.

    “I think the public will feel like it’s more harassment,” he predicted.

    Yes. And they, the insiders, are doing the attacking the people are the ones being attacked, everywhere. And like a stone giant, they will shake the dust and push back sometime, and the vile insiders will know what real power feels like. Maybe they already do, since their fruitless chirping is going nowhere already, stopped at every turn, as indictments loom everywhere, and the people haven’t even really got in motion yet.

    “Trump’s re-election campaign raised a quarter of a million dollars in just 15 minutes on Tuesday in the immediate aftermath of House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s announcement about the probe.”

    He also raised $15M in CALIFORNIA, in one DAY, more than California’s Harris had raised in the entire QUARTER. Don’t know what to say, I’m not a fan but his unpopularity seems to be a media illusion. Impeachment – even failed, as a smear – is the only thing they’ve got to slow him down as presently he polls above every Democratic candidate and they can’t take 2020. But that’s not the way: the way is to flip to POPULAR policy, and put that policy under POPULAR candidates. Then you win. …How has it come that I even have to say these things?

    “The evidence was insufficient as a matter of law for the jury to convict Rafiekian,”

    So judges decide for juries now? Hey, why not. In England, they just decided a hundred-year-old custom doesn’t legally exist, and the Queen is a moron too stupid to understand what she’s doing, and so happily reversed it on her behalf without asking. …A pretty average day in judicial land, where Judges both invent laws neither the legislative never thought of and force the executive to enforce the new thing-they-just-made-up.

    “The judge in the case is already on record disliking the practice of prosecutors withholding exculpatory evidence”

    You know, he might dislike this because it’s illegal, a crime, and contrary to every establishment from the Constitution. The State must provide all charges, all witnesses, all evidence – even and especially exculpatory evidence – to the defense to avoid the overwhelming power and advantage of the state railroading the innocent. Yes, I dislike when state prosecutors break their oath of office, become criminals, and commit felonies to illegally convict the innocent to advance their politics and careers too. I hope everyone does. Cue RT for the mildest depiction of the day.

    “UK Supreme Court Rules Prorogation “Unlawful, Void and of No Effect” (G.)”

    I’m curious why they think he should resign. The PM tried ONE THING so far to get through his platform and what he believes is the will of the people. So if anyone EVER fails, even once, they have to go? I can’t describe how ridiculous that sounds. So Clinton should have resigned back when his first initiative of Health Care reform failed? They would never have passed the next 7 years of laws. …Oh wait, I understand: If in a war you lose a single battle, you surrender, because we always, always surrender, to any one, at any time, for any reason.

    When that’s our approach, it’s no wonder the world is run by maniacs with maniacal plans. Stand up like an honest Englishman for your principles and all you believe in. Your fathers didn’t surrender or there’d be no England. You shouldn’t either.

    “Six weeks after his death, what do you think will still be there?”

    Twenty years after his conviction, they finally think they MIGHT look into the open trafficking and serial rapes of hundreds of French girls. Maybe. Not promising anything. Only if it doesn’t incriminate Macron and Sarkozy.

    “Bitcoin Plummets, Down 35% Since Early August (R.)”

    Bitcoin is being attacked by market riggers, just like the riggers in every other market. You know, like the ones being prosecuted at JP Morgan right now? Someone shut off a continent of mining rigs and plummeted the hash rate in coordination with the hypothecated exchanges. But hey, if all these honest, math-verified, trust-engine Libertarians want to trust prices set by criminal exchanges who have less than 1 in 1000 coins they claim to have, then this is what happens. It’s an identical scam to the 50 years of market rigging in precious metals, right down to the dime. They’ll cannonball into any pool on earth because they can make a Satoshi by handing the manipulators the keys to the price setting. …Just like all those honest, hard-money guys in metals. What a bunch of dips. Where do they find them this stupid and credible? OBVIOUSLY if you hand your enemy the deed to your casino, the house will win. SMH.

    But it’ll be back. BTC isn’t going anywhere. They just need to get some coins cheap and get out of their over-leverage on exchanges before the financial system cracks open. Thus the rush.

    “German Lawmakers Warn Greta Thunberg’s Activism Threatens Rational Debate (RT)”

    Scientists have been saying this for a while, that’s how you know it’s not science-based, it’s a religion. Another comment was, when one side feels the need to surrender debate and move to emotional attacks, you can be sure it’s because the opposition has stopped listening. So the emotional attack won’t GET them to listen, either. It radicalizes YOUR base, not theirs, it doesn’t change minds. In that way it’s a losing approach.

    Quite probably they could have got all the buy-in they desired with a Green New Deal that sold technology to advance the nations to a more environmental pattern, retiring old polluting technologies. But that wouldn’t have promoted Eco-Austerity and Green Fascism, the dream of using this crisis to push through Stalin’s dream of International Socialism. Opportunity lost. Both science and environmentalism may lose big, even for a generation, having tried this mowed this oppressive tactic over the population.

    Wish they hadn’t, but we’re going green anyway, because it’s cheaper, better, and faster. Energy costs money, so saving energy saves money. That incentive is relentless.

    I’m sorry for Greta’s unflattering picture. It shows something however: her face is deeply asymmetrical in emotion, which is why it causes a creepy reaction to the average observer. That’s because if the belief isn’t integrated, that is, if it’s only mental, intellectual, as I’m pretty sure it is, then the body has the left and right hemispheres, left and right sides, not match. That to humans is a sign of “falseness”, even if intellectually believed by the person in question. When it’s this “unbalanced” it looks demonic, but at the very least it shows an “unbalanced” person. Which Greta herself says she is. She says she is depressed, panicked, and mentally ill. It’s in her book. That’s in addition to being autistic and/or other. So I’m not attacking her for this, this is simply a fact as spoken by herself.

    However, you get better observations and solutions from relaxed, integrated people, who can see all sides and therefore integrate different parts of human society to cooperate for the greater good. Fredrick Douglass is a good example of this, fighting for something important in a rational way, maybe Richard Feynman, who could calculate with Einstein but lectured with a good-natured, common-sense approach. There are others who could gather people together, and I’m not one of them, but this shows Greta’s approach and Greta’s reaction. Perhaps as a Swedish Homesteader, an off-grid advocate, she could become far more popular, more approachable, with a richer life by using her life as a way of demonstrating what we all can and should do.

    The internet is full of off-grid people, living in vans, in cabins, having gardens, planting trees, growing livestock with their children. The billionaire media ignore them with religious absolutism, and pick Greta instead. Why?

    #50095
    Turfkiller
    Participant

    “One sane voice: ” terribly divisive for the country “.”
    That is always what narcissists and their ‘flying monkey’s’ want you to believe that doing the right thing is always the wrong thing.

    #50097
    wwoofbum
    Participant

    “Greta Thunberg’s highly emotional approach to climate change activism threatens level-headed debate on the subject…”

    And just where has “level-headed debate” gotten us so far?

    #50098
    Turfkiller
    Participant

    ‘My advice over the upcoming months with the Impeachment Inquiry is to know what is coming at us. These networks of Bots and Trolls and sites like the Automatic Earth have been built and have been waiting for this. You don’t need to spend any real-time analyzing. Here it’s been obvious for many years.’

    #50100

    The Automatic Earth is waiting for what?

    #50101
    Turfkiller
    Participant

    “Tulsi turns out to be a plant” just went up to 62¢ in betting markets.

    #50102
    zerosum
    Participant

    I’m just an old man with dementia.

    I disagree.

    If the diplomats are talking then they are not fighting. (not doing anything)
    “Gaia will survive; and that’s all that matters……………..”
    • German Lawmakers Warn Greta Thunberg’s Activism Threatens Rational Debate (RT)

    #50106
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “Gaia will survive; and that’s all that matters……………..”

    She’s seen our kind come and go. In a blink she’ll see us, her children, fade again. The only thing we’re saving is ourselves, so we might go about it differently.

    What are you here for?

    #50108
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Having trouble posting comments, so I’ll try posting this link to an old blog of mine and see if that works:
    https://9bill.blogspot.com/2019/09/why-pick-greta-thunberg-because-however.html

    #50110
    John Day
    Participant

    http://www.johndayblog.com/2019/09/greta-and-tulsi.html
    Let me return to Greta-the-Threat.
    Greta walked into the UN and pulled back the curtain, showing the man working the levers, and said,
    “You appear to be lying to us and killing our whole planet for short-sighted selfish reasons, which is immature”.
    This did threaten the elite narrative, pushing herd-austerity through carbon-pricing, wage arbitrage and other “market-mechanisms”.
    It also threatens a lot of personal narratives, because it demands immediate, “radical” change, and implies a threat.
    Greta clearly implied a future threat to all vested interests, certainly including us, dear readers.
    This is the seething, angry threat of the young-and-robbed, the threat of pitchforks and mass killings.
    French Revolution, Bolsheviks, Krystallnacht, Cultural Revolution, and Killing Fields come to mind.
    Greta is the first to raise this threat in America, and in the Imperial city of New York, at the United Nations.
    I think belittling her and trying to put her in her place won’t work, because she embodies the core archetypal threat message.
    I also do not think that counter-offers will be made soon, though many must be in consideration at various elite levels.
    The black flag threat of class violence against the elite rulers has been planted on a small hill in new York.
    There it flies.

    #50113
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    V. Arnold — “Great painting; but! WTF does Pianc mean??”

    I wondered the same thing and found that Es Pianc is a small beach in Spain (visible at the right of center in the photo below).

    Es Pianc beach
    https://www.inspain.org/en/girona/cadaques/beaches/es-pianc/

    #50114
    Dr. D
    Participant

    John Day: the Archdruid had the same impression, although I did not.

    The Dream of a Managed Society

    His thought is, their necessary attempt to create a new [financial] structure [as the old one expires in vertical compounding debt] is failing as everyone begins to see THEY, the rich and entitled are not only wasteful, but the authors of our present problems. They wanted Greta to get their Green Techno Dictatorship through, but instead she’s turning around and pointing at THEM, the rich in the U.N., as being most obvious target. They’re still not clear on this, either side, as Greens feel she attacked the rich, and Libertarians believe she was helping the Rich push through tax policy to attack the poor. Both may be true, as not all players are acting on all information.

    In any case, then your impression of rage at the rich — meaning anyone a dollar richer than I am — and the old — because they made these environmental choices and also tend to have saved wealth for retirement — are well-founded.

    And concerning.

    #50115
    zerosum
    Participant

    I’ll support a wheelchair, walker revolution and borrow the afore mentioned so that I can join the march.
    (If I don’t forget)
    🙂

    #50117
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    “Greta-the-Threat” sounds about right, judging by the responses she evokes.
    Some other Threats who caught a lot of flak:

    #50125
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    I wondered the same thing and found that Es Pianc is a small beach in Spain (visible at the right of center in the photo below).
    Doc Robinson

    Thanks Doc; looks lovely…

    #50126
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    What are you here for?
    Dr. D

    I have no idea. So, I just live and enjoy the immense beauty of Gaia…

    #50127
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    What are you here for?
    Dr. D

    …or did you mean here at TAE?

    #50129
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    …or did you mean here at TAE?

    If that’s what you’re asking: I’m here because Ilargi’s is a platform of uncensored, free speech; the only one I’m aware of…
    I don’t do any social media venues because most if not all are corrupted. And frankly; worthless blah, blah, blah nonsense.
    Last but not least, Ilargi’s commentary is independent of all other media biases…IMO…

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