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    Joseph-Désiré Court Le Masque 1843   No, I’m still not over the fact that they all initially missed the virus when they should have seen it most
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    #58143
    kimyo99
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    so far I always veer back, along with Fat Tony, to the vastly underestimated achievements of sheer incompetence

    on 9/11, incompetence could be the reason norad stood down. it could be the reason the fbi failed to ‘connect the dots’ even though they were aware of ‘non-resident men of arab descent’ attending flight schools and had on file a 1996 pakistani terrorist confession explaining plans ‘to use the training he received at flight schools in the United States to fly a plane into C.I.A. headquarters in Langley’.

    however, it’s quite a leap to suggest that incompetence led to the wiring of the twin towers and building 7 for demolition.

    #58145
    william
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    People are rushing into parliaments with ak47s. Really you actually think elected officials intentionally have done this.

    At the heart of it is the fact democratic ways and rights and freedoms feed this virus. Two best countries in the world dealt with the virus effectively. Iceland and Taiwan use draconian but effective ways.

    In these countries rights and freedoms set aside for a month. One used a mandatory phone app going from green to yellow to red. Green your good. Yellow someone sick passed by you and mandatory go home. Red arrested if not inside.

    Police forces were tripled and contact tracing carefully done.

    That is the cure. Are we willing? Or are we going down with the boat. I’ll be that rat jumped ship in the lifeboat thankyou. No dignity and heros don’t live long.

    #58146
    Dr. D
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    This is how humans are. You cannot lock down for every shadow. The expense would be near-infinite. They then must lock down too late. They also locked down the wrong things. Beaches and hiking trails, but not parades, subways, liquor stores and nursing homes. Being humans, they also do it unevenly and with substantial gaps. For instance, apparently any mayor or famous person can go golfing or fly wherever they want. Then once (not) locked down, but having some illusion of lockdown, a certain help, humans did not use the expensive time bought them either. Having time, they wasted it, both in medicine and at home. Then, having wasted the time for the (non) lock down, they don’t really have, they DID damage the economy trade, and division of labor that keeps them all alive.

    Now they can’t un-lock the non-lockdown they didn’t have. Egos are at stake. Science is still not used. They lockdown islands in Michigan and the fenced beach in your own backyard, but still not nursing homes, airlines, and cruise ships. Safe, small business like being outdoors painting houses is stopped, bankrupted, and Wal-Mart is packed shoulder to shoulder. They can deliver Furbles to your door but not food.

    Didn’t you know all this was going to happen? This is how human are. It’s not like we didn’t know since the Middle Ages, it’s just the same as the middle ages. Messy. Violent. Corrupt. Un-scientific. Un-reflective. Non-functional. So here we are, being us.

    This is exactly how we got to be 8 billion. This is how we are so astoundingly successful through 5,000 years of pandemics and world wars, by doing exactly this. By being messy, uncooperative, unreasonable, and unpredictable. If we were cooperative and predictable we’d long have been slaves to a single wolf. Those people, that action, saves us 10,000 times and sometimes it’s irritating, but it has a very great, noble, and hidden purpose. Those uncooperative people are saving you right now by holding back the waters and tying up a tyranny that doesn’t know how to cope with them. There are risks and cost all over. They are volunteering to save you on that front, and you can save them on another. Even medically, perhaps.

    But we seem to be past the high-water mark on all nations, locked or no, and now we’re going to go from a senseless, unorganized non-lockdown to a senseless, unorganized non-startup. Did all the shouting not to be messy, not to be unorganized help anything? Was all the bad blood and beatings worth the backlash that will come? Was telling humans not to be human help them to not act like the way human beings act?

    “Well I told them and they didn’t instantly obey.” Welcome to life. Nobody cares what anybody else says or thinks. They never have, not for the last 10,000 years. If you noticed, no one did now either. But I won’t tell them AND I won’t obey, so I guess I’m part of the club.

    #58147
    Dr. D
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    “We told humans not to be humans.” “Well that didn’t work out very well.”

    I prepared for humans to be humans. And when things went wrong, there was everything. Because I, being human, made arrangements and prepared for it. Others can too, and many have.

    If you’re not going to do anything when you, not “society” know this is certain to happen, who do you think is going to save you from yourselves?

    #58152
    zerosum
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    How did the virus get to all the care homes and the seniors?
    Why did the virus find that the best place to multiply was in the cells of a senior?
    Why were most of the seniors in the world unprepared for the arrival of the virus?

    Why are most of the poor, crowded sickly people of the world not among the first chosen by the virus?

    Yep!
    There are still a lot of questions with no answer.

    #58153
    VietnamVet
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    The only confusion is cognitive dissonance. May 1st, 2020 Amazon worker’s protest sign reads; “Capitalism Kills”.

    Workers from Amazon, Whole Foods, Instacart, Target and Walmart join forces to stage a mass sick-out

    The US Federal government orders 100,000 body bags.
    https://nypost.com/2020/04/29/fema-orders-100000-more-body-bags-for-worst-case-scenario/

    The western oligarchy was unprepared for a pandemic for the simple reason stockpiling PPE, closing borders, hiring contact tracers, and isolating the infected costs a great deal of money that they are unwilling to spend. Killing unfortunates benefits their bottom-line. They are still quite unwilling to do the basic national public health functions (test, trace and isolate) that have controlled pandemics in the past and worked against the Wuhan Coronavirus in China, Taiwan, New Zealand, Australia, South Korea and Singapore. The West only restored to a lockdown after seeing Italian hospitals overwhelmed and the Elite flying back to the Hamptons infected from skiing in the Alps.

    Lockdown fatigue and an economic Depression have set in. Republican governors in the USA are haphazardly reopening up their states. Quite willing to kill hundreds of thousands of American to restart the economy.

    The Establishment really doesn’t want Americans to wake up to the truth.

    #58155
    zerosum
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    Many petri dish
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/last-ship-us-navy-keeping-covid-19-clean-ships-out-sea-indefinitely
    At this point at least four US Navy aircraft carriers — the USS Theodore Roosevelt, the USS Ronald Reagan, the USS Carl Vinson and the USS Nimitz — have reported cases of coronavirus, crimping their operations. Most notably the Roosevelt had over a month ago been diverted from its original mission in the West Pacific, and now has 1,102 sailors that have tested positive for COVID-19.

    Reuters further reports US officials have confirmed more than two dozen warships now have crew with coronavirus infections while at port.

    And this week the guided-missile USS Kidd which arrived in San Diego Tuesday at least 78 active cases out of a 330-person crew, or about 25% of total personnel on board, reports the San Diego Union-Tribune.

    #58156
    WES
    Participant

    Zerosum:

    In the good olde days of sailing ships, people coming to Canada oftened arrived in Quebec City so sick that they had to be quarantined by authorities on an island in the St. Lawrence River until they had recovered from their sea trip induced illnesses.

    If I remember correctly, travelling across the Atlantic in a ship, meant facing 25% to 35% death rates!

    So ships have been Petri dishes for a very long time!

    #58158
    ezlxa1949
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    I detest this word “lockdown”. That’s a prison term.

    What’s wrong with good old “isolation” (the sick separated from the healthy) or “quarantine” (the healthy separated from the sick)?

    Some conditioning going on here perhaps.

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