Debt Rattle April 15 2021
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April 15, 2021 at 9:19 am #73182
Raúl Ilargi Meijer
KeymasterRembrandt van Rijn Christ In The Storm On The Sea Of Galilee 1633 Stolen from Gardner Museum March 18 1990, the single largest property theft in the w
[See the full post at: Debt Rattle April 15 2021]April 15, 2021 at 9:45 am #73183V. Arnold
ParticipantRembrandt van Rijn Christ In The Storm On The Sea Of Galilee 1633
Epic. Beyond mere words…
The rest? FUBAR…………….
April 15, 2021 at 10:06 am #73184Germ
ParticipantThis is a terrific presentation:
Dr Byram Bridle, Viral Immunologist at the University of Guelph in Canada
April 15, 2021 at 10:19 am #73185Germ
ParticipantA great collection of important interviews re. Covid from people that need to be widely heard – and shared:
April 15, 2021 at 10:32 am #73186Mister Roboto
ParticipantWell, I just read yesterday that the WHO “conditionally recommends against” (“conditionally recommending” is a step below “strongly recommending”) hospitals treating Covid patients with expensive, big-pharma-approved remdesivir, as there is very scant evidence that it actually helps. So if my best friend from the high-school daze of the eighties was kept off the ventilator (after which one’s odds become a lot more dicey) by what the doctors treated him with, it was probably the steroids.
If so, I’m glad they gave him something that may have saved his life, but they probably only give you those steroids once you’re already in very bad shape (Dr. John Day probably knows more than I do about how and when hospitals use steroids to treat Covid), and I also know they exact something of a toll on the human body. If he would have been treated with Ivermectin as soon as he fell ill, he probably wouldn’t have needed to be away from work for a whole month and wouldn’t have needed to spend four days in the hospital right before the winter holidays.
Maybe I’m just kidding myself, but part of me wants to believe that if something like Covid would have happened thirty years ago, we would have treated it with something that works and works well and is as potentially cheap and plentiful as the ibuprofen you can buy in those mondo-sized bottles at Walmart. In this case, that is Ivermectin. So one is forced to wonder, once again, who benefits and in what way, from the refusal to properly and effectively treat people who become seriously ill with Covid? And could it be that somebody wants all those older poor people with chronic health problems to “just freaking die, already”?
April 15, 2021 at 1:03 pm #73188Polder Dweller
ParticipantVanden Bossche again. I don’t know if this video has been shared before, it’s an hour long and if (like me) you haven’t got time for that, there’s a really good five minute sequence starting at 38:50 where what Vanden Bossche is on about is explained in terms of a game of football.
April 15, 2021 at 1:27 pm #73190Raúl Ilargi Meijer
Keymasterthere’s a really good five minute sequence starting at 38:50 where what Vanden Bossche is on about is explained in terms of a game of football.
That IS a good sequence, though perhaps a bit over the top.
April 15, 2021 at 1:30 pm #73191Germ
ParticipantShit is going down here in the UK.
No jab, no job :-((April 15, 2021 at 1:31 pm #73192Doc Robinson
Participant• Idiocy: Experimental Vaccines And Spike Proteins (Denninger)
On the topic of blood clots caused by the Covid vaccines (and not just AstraZeneca’s):
Blood clots as prevalent with Pfizer and Moderna vaccine as with AstraZeneca’s: study
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/blood-clots-as-prevalent-with-pfizer-and-moderna-vaccine-as-with-astrazenecas-report-2021-04-15April 15, 2021 at 1:40 pm #73194Dr. D
Participant“And if it doesn’t prevent you from catching the coronavirus, why are we taking it in the first place?”
Because, logic. We don’t do that here. We do whatever is the #Opposite.
“Continued Lockdowns a Ticking Time Bomb to Cause Global Health Crisis Soon (RT)”
Killin’ some folks. And I got them to demand, nay, RIOT for their own deaths. That’s a straight win-win.
“Johnson & Johnson Vaccine Use Will Remain Paused in US Amid Evaluation (G.)”
Hey, I was told vaccines were safe as water! It was all cray-cray that they weren’t. Un-Science. Now two are banned back-to-back. What gives?
“South Africa Covid Variant Found in Another Part of London (Mirror)”
How DARE they name the virus after the place it came from! That’s racist! Also how dare they care since their claim it was more dangerous or transmissible was debunked again yesterday. Again and again. As any reporter could find with any 10-second “Google” chart (provided). Doesn’t matter. Being an expert means never, ever being right. Ever. And it never ever matters. Even if you kill 15,000 people.
“The entire country is closed. Lockdown tourism? You can’t even sit outside, let alone have drinks or dinner.”
You can if you’re rich. You can if you’re the French elites. You can if you’re Newsome or Lightfoot or Whitmer. You peasants are the only one following the law. Why? If they show up, tell them to “Get out” …or “Get out you fascist pig”, and don’t comply. The only way to get their attention is if they’re terrified of you and cry on national TV like our Congressmen and CDC directors.
“US To Withdraw From Afghanistan Having Accomplished”
Lies from Lies with Biden and the NY Times yesterday – because they said it it’s a lie – I looked more into it:
Multi-level of multi-lying, Joe declares peace! We’re coming home 9/11! …Except Trump ALREADY declared peace, and ALREADY ordered the troops out MAY 1st. So Joe is EXTENDING the war, not ending it, presumably like his boss Obama, to extend and extend and expand, hoping, making something happen. I mean, F-stan doesn’t have a slave market yet, and you don’t set one up overnight.
So Lie: He’s AGAINST peace, AGAINST withdrawal, and Stalling it until the CIA can set up an attack. How against peace? He’s attacking Russia, both directly and through proxies, and removed all Russian diplomats this morning so we can much more easily have “accidents”.
NY Times describes mail-in as unsafe for decades, supported by Carter. They’re now against their life-long coverage. Doesn’t matter which you believe: one or the other is a bald lie. Which you knew. Because they said it. But it doesn’t matter if they’re never-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever right. They’re “Experts”! I trust them!
And then Joe’s lies – or truth if you want – that Russia installed him in office last year with Russian election tampering. And not, as Time Magazine says, the tampering of corporations in a direct merger with government, a system we have a name for.
“Suppose you want to spend $3-$10 trillion on a Build Back Better agenda.”
You can’t Build Back Better until you first destroy everything and everyone.
“Food Prices Are Rising Aggressively, And Even Corporate Media Admits It’s Only Going To Get Worse”
Food and commodities are rising fast, attacking the poor and enriching the wealthy. But there’s an answer! MOAR printing, more stimulus, MOAR helping! We will help them so f-ing hard until milk is $100/gal. Sounds like they need some FREEDOM!
“The Future Is Carbon Coin (Steve Keen)”
Carbon credits are the wet dream of the wealthy and income disparity, shutting off all life goods, as above. Dream of the Fascist Technocrats of the 30s. Kidding? Not. What was the express purpose of CO2 credits? TO RAISE THE PRICE OF OIL. That is, to DESTROY THE POOR with high heating costs, high driving costs (cue the Yellow vests), high food costs, high plastics costs, high medical costs, and high lumber costs (past tense).
And you wonder why everyone dreams of them to stop helping for the love of God, before we’re all dead from white Karen ‘helping’? Last time she helped, I lost my job. That was 30 years ago, hasn’t stopped, hasn’t noticed yet, even though her kids are unemployed, on drugs, and rioting.
Thanks, Keen. And you should know better.
April 15, 2021 at 2:09 pm #73195zerosum
ParticipantHere is my contribution to help TAE
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/can-we-win-gray-zone
Can We Win In The ‘Gray Zone’?Authored by Richard Kemp via The Gatestone Institute,April 10, 2021
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/17235/gray-zone-conflict
Executive summary – zerosum
1. new word, ( ‘Gray Zone’, ‘Gray War’), to explain/justify what the USA, Israel have been doing for 20 years or longer
2. war without “boots on the ground”
3. bullying, intimidating. aggression, and justification against those countries/opponents that “we” have identified as the enemies (Iran, Venezuela, Cuba etc)
4. modern, virtual warfare
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Mainstream media are manipulating “the news” to capture your interest to generate their income.
Mainstream media lost their traditional source of income: advertising
Therefore, “advertisers”, can and do slant the news as they think is “the right message”
——-• Continued Lockdowns A Ticking Time Bomb To Cause Global Health Crisis Soon (RT)
“… alarmist reports of ICUs being crowded. And so elective surgeries have been stopped again. It’s worth bearing in mind that these are not necessarily cosmetic or trivial procedures,”What do people do when they are in pain? Take pain killers.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/front-line-workers-warn-that-b-c-s-opioid-crisis-is-only-getting-worse-1.5387921
“As British Columbia marks five years since declaring the opioid crisisa public health emergency, those who’ve been on the frontlines since the beginning warn things are only getting worse.
The overdose crisis has claimed the lives of 7,072 British Columbians since January 2016 and 6,853 B.C. residents since it was declared a public health emergency five years ago. It is longest-running such emergency in B.C.”
Emphasis is on street people, homeless as the addicts that are using opioids and dying. False image.
It cost money to buy drugs. the new media are not talking about those in pain, of your communities, that have the money and are buying drugs.
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• Greece To Reopen To US Tourists Next Week – Under Conditions (F.)
“Tourism makes up a whopping 20% of the economy,”Can tourist save the economy?
Cost of everything is going up.
If more than 60% of people are living pay check to pay check,
If the additional cost brought on by covid protections is passed on to the tourist
Who will have enough money to be the tourists?
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• US Intel Warns Of ‘Sustained Economic Downturn’, Other Long-Term Threats (ZH)
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20613962/ata2021unclassifiedreport.pdf
“As required by the law, this report will be provided to the congressional intelligence committees as
well as the committees on the Armed Services of the House of Representatives and the Senate.
Information available as of 9 April 2021 was used in the preparation of this assessment”
Therefore, the leaders are informed and will take appropriate actions. /sac
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• Let’s Play The “Pay For” Game (Stephanie Kelton)
Its disinformation
The truth
If a company wants a gov. contract it includes all cost in its bid. That includes graft, kick backs, political contributions etc. Those cost are paid by you or the printing press.
Since when have any laws, rules and regulations, been passed that can catch the rich and make them pay taxes that comes out of their profits. Successful companies pass all costs to the consumers or else they fail.
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Hehehehe!
1. Joe’s lies – or truth if you want – that Russia installed him in office last year with Russian election tampering.
2. So Lie: He’s AGAINST peace, AGAINST withdrawal, and Stalling it until the CIA can set up an attack. How against peace? He’s attacking Russia, both directly and through proxies, and removed all Russian diplomats this morning so we can much more easily have “accidents”.
3. Joe’s lies –
4. Joe’s lies down to take a nap
——-April 15, 2021 at 3:28 pm #73203Germ
ParticipantExcellent and detailed Spectator article from Professor Simon Wood of Edinburgh University. A devastating critique of the Imperial College analyses, which joins all the other excellent critiques of their output:
Lockdowns are useless.
April 15, 2021 at 3:40 pm #73204Doc Robinson
ParticipantTwo different headlines about the same study:
Blood clots as prevalent with Pfizer and Moderna vaccine as with AstraZeneca’s: study
Oxford study shows higher clotting risks from COVID than vaccines
Most headlines about this study are like the second one. It boosts confidence in the vaccines at a time when there are questions about potential problems with blood clots. The underlying message is that if you’re worried about blood clots, then get the vaccine because a Covid infection will give you a much higher risk of blood clots.
Well, it depends. What if the only people getting blood clots from a Covid infection are those with certain preexisting conditions (like “cerebral/precerebral artery stenosis/occlusion, and intracranial hemorrhage”), while people can get blood clots from the vaccine even if they have none of those preexisting conditions?
I found the study and looked at the details, but some specific data I wanted to see was missing from the report. There were some hints, but no indication of how many, if any, of the Covid patients with blood clots had none of the related comorbidities.
Results
513,284 patients with a confirmed diagnosis of COVID-19 were included in this study (54.8% females, mean [SD] age 46.6 [21.4]; Of these, 20 were diagnosed with a CVT [cerebral vascular thrombosis] in the two weeks following their diagnosis (absolute risk: 39.0 per million people, 95% CI 25.2–60.2). The risk was significantly higher among patients with a history of cardiovascular diseases (Table 1), specifically cerebral/precerebral artery stenosis/occlusion, and intracranial hemorrhage.Table 1 gives some interesting details about the preexisting “comorbidities at baseline” for the 20 Covid patients (out of more than half a million) who got Cerebral Vascular Thrombosis (CVT):
4 already had (Pre-)Cerebral arterial stenosis/occlusion
3 already had Intracranial haemorrhage
3 already had CVT in the past
5 already had Ischemic heart diseases
4 already had Arterial diseases
2 already had Cardiac failure
(These are some of the comorbidities which had a much higher prevalence in the 20 Covid patients who got Cerebral Vascular Thrombosis.)I’d like to see the numbers for how many people (out of a million) who have none of the related preexisting comorbidities but end up getting CVT from the vaccine, compared to the number of people getting CVT from Covid while having none of the related preexisting comorbidities. This data would be useful for weighing the risks to a currently healthy person who is contemplating whether to get the vaccine or not. The data is available, and the study could have mentioned these numbers, but it did not.
Cerebral venous thrombosis: a retrospective cohort study of 513,284 confirmed COVID-19 cases and a comparison with 489,871 people receiving a COVID-19 mRNA vaccine
https://osf.io/a9jdq/April 15, 2021 at 3:43 pm #73205Doc Robinson
ParticipantCorrection to my post above:
CVT is Cerebral venous thrombosis, not Cerebral vascular thrombosisApril 15, 2021 at 3:47 pm #73206my parents said know
ParticipantI’m not so sure about all those people who will be dying because yet-unfound or found cancers will not be treated.
In 2003, four women I knew were diagnosed with ovarian cancer. Three of them did not have symptoms other than a mass in their abdomen. The fourth- my mother- did have symptoms. “Discreet tumors” were removed in three; my mother underwent a very long operation that ended with the surgeon saying her cancer was “inoperable”. All four underwent grueling chemo with cisplatin.
One died early this year at the age of ninety-three of Alzheimers. Two are still alive and well. My mother was chemo-ed for five miserable years. To the day, her oncologist gathered the family together and proudly proclaimed she had met the five year survival rate, and he was stopping treatment. She died a couple of weeks later.
I cannot say for sure, but I believe three of those “cancers” were common, treatable ovarian cysts. My mother had cancer.
I think an awful lot of “cured cancer” was never cancer at all, but without “cured” cancer, it would be difficult to sell the toxic, pricey chemo. This might be expressed as the numbers come out.A long time back, California doctors went on strike. Death rates fell.
The good Doctor Day here aside (for there are many excellent, caring doctors out there) I think some doctors are Faucian- murdering, egotistical, money-grubbing psychopaths.Germ- thanks for “Jermwarfare”.
Carbon credits- but that’s right in the “built back better” world, and if they can make it crypto-y it will seem so cool! And you wouldn’t want someone to steal your credits, so let’s put it in a chip in your hand. Oh. Better make that one of your cheeks. The other cheeks.April 15, 2021 at 4:10 pm #73207madamski cafone
ParticipantLooks to me like Tucker Carlson is serving as trial balloon for a covid retreat. Fauci sounds like the mayor of New York. Same defensive arrogance, same chintzy chutzpah. Fauci is, like, the quintessence of dipshit-ism.
Mind vaccination %:
Fox News dominates weekly ratings to overtake CNN among 2021 total day viewers
So Fauci is playing best-defense-is-offense blind man’s bluff rear guard damage control… to a steadily shrinking audience. Everything is obviously going according to their ingenious plan… if their mission is Sink the Titanic.
April 15, 2021 at 4:13 pm #73208madamski cafone
ParticipantThe way I see it, the challenge is not how to pull the masses heads out their rears, but instead, how to deal with those masses once they find they can’t put their heads back in now that reality causes so much panic their sphinsters won’t allow a pinky much less a cranium?
Those who provide even the most short-term solutions to dire prospects will become leaders overnight.
April 15, 2021 at 4:16 pm #73209madamski cafone
Participant“Australia, Germany, Norway, and the United Kingdom consider white racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists, including Neo-Nazi groups, to be the fastest growing terrorist threat they face.”
Well, if you can’t beat ’em, join ’em.
April 15, 2021 at 4:24 pm #73210madamski cafone
Participant@ Germ
The no jab/no job will begin the breaking of the covid usurpation and beginning of some kind of revolution. I say that with a sense of certainty, so I’m probably wrong. 😉
April 15, 2021 at 4:30 pm #73211madamski cafone
ParticipantIn fact, I have decided that today is officially the day I begin resisting in earnest. Just some petty embargoism and and unwillingness to tolerate fools lightly any more. Comes a time one needs to start breaking eggs of one is going to experience the global rvolution omelot of ones lifetime… of any human ever ever lived in recorded history’s lifetime.
Gonna be a spectacular show. The trailers alone have already broken attendance records.
In post-collapse Soviet Amerika, popcorn eats you!
April 15, 2021 at 4:43 pm #73212zerosum
ParticipantRacism
no talk of “the yellow peril” anymore.April 15, 2021 at 4:59 pm #73213Noirette
ParticipantVAX. Big Pharma’s hopes are partially realised, yet fall short. The vax. campaigns aren’t performing super well.
Off the cuff, as of course we plebs don’t know the projected or hoped-for gains and how to judge performance, in financial terms only. (There aren’t any others imho.)
Even selling to 15% or 20% of world pop, paid by Gvmts. with a guarantee of no liability, is a fantastic feat!
Nos. are from Our World in Data, % of ppl who have had at least one vax dose – an OK stat, as that the first-dosers will mostly all get dose-two. To April 10 or latest info.
Gibraltar, 100%. To mention the top.
V. small territories (Vatican, Monaco, San Marino, etc. > outliers) should be left off as potential outliers. The Rock is included because reported 100% vax – it has had 94 Cov-19 deaths overall to date (Worldometer) so comparing it with any other territory is foolhardy. Note that Gib. has a high pop density and is high ppl movement place, and experienced several deaths after the vax.
Israel 60% (deal with Pfizer for their data – though recently Isr. didn’t pay and deliveries were halted, link.)
UK 48% or so
USA 35%
USUKisr – partners in corp power, ppl control, war (see e.g. Iraq war..)
Also:
Chile 38%
UAE 35%
Bhutan 35%
Bahrein 33%
Hungary 29%
Serbia 25%— that is more or less it for the ‘middle’ crowd (provided one trusts these numbers..)
Between 13 – 19%, low! For a massive prophylactic exercise in rich countries:
European countries, minus UK, EU average = 15%. Turkey Morroco Canada Singapore.
All others below. Ex.:
Argentina 10%, Mexico 7%, India 6%, Russia 6%, Indonesia 3.6%, Palestine 2.5% (see contrast with Israel..), New Zealand 1%, Japan less than 1%.
How is it that use of a vaccine can be “paused”, and then perhaps taken up again, following new directives, such as, only for ppl aged over 55? Crazy times.
Mister Roboto posted: Maybe I’m just kidding myself, but part of me wants to believe that if something like Covid would have happened thirty years ago, we would have treated it with something that works and works well and is as potentially cheap and plentiful…
Yes, absolutely, that would have been the case, imho. Corporate Power prevailing is what we see…
link is to Our World in Data. https://bit.ly/3mNrgBZ
April 15, 2021 at 5:08 pm #73214John Day
ParticipantGreat after hours commentariat on “page 2” last night!
@V.Arnold: What Germ said, but n=some are now pushing the ivermectin dose to 0.3 mg/kg/day, up from 0.2 mg/kg/d
Harvey Risch MD sent this statistical set:
Vaccinated (millions) Thrombocytopenia Thrombosis Haemorrhage Fatalities Tpnia Rate Thromb Rate Haem Rate Mort Rate
J&J 7.164152 4 6 5 42 0.56 0.84 0.70 5.86
Moderna 31.355979 41 43 28 1001 1.31 1.37 0.89 31.92
Pfizer 36.76424 44 66 54 986 1.20 1.80 1.47 26.82
“Rates” are numbers per million people fully vaccinated (1 dose for J&J, 2 doses for the others)Thrombosis, thrombocytopenia, haemorrhage:
J&J 15/4 million
Moderna 109/40 million
Pfizer 163/40 millionApril 15, 2021 at 5:10 pm #73215John Day
Participant@Mr. Roboto: Yes, steroids save your life when you are in cytokine storm with COVID pneumonia.
Ivermectin is efficacious at all stages of illness (before death), but I want it before I can’t breathe, please.April 15, 2021 at 5:13 pm #73216John Day
ParticipantFor your perusal: Human Confusion Update
http://www.johndayblog.com/2021/04/human-confusion-update.htmlTexas is finally getting a small uptick in positive COVID tests and hospitalizations, in the post-Easter period. The rapid antigen (fewer false positives) percent positive rate has ticked up to 3.4%.
Is this the UK strain? Is this Brazilian strain? Was this entire families of all ages, and churches getting together?
All of the above?
apps.texastribune.org/features/2020/texas-coronavirus-cases-map/The UK B 1.1.7. variant is the most reported in the US, followed by the Brazilian P.1 variant, which is more contagious, more deadly, partly vaccine-resistant, and reports from Brazilian treating physicians, using Ivermectin based therapies, are that it is harder to treat with the medicines they have been using, though it does still respond and improve with those medicines.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2021/04/09/devastating-covid-19-variant-in-brazil-now-2nd-most-reported-variant-in-us-cdc-data-shows/?sh=7d78fefd400eI remember Judd For The Defense and Perry Mason: Thanks Jeremy
American Hero: Ralph C. Lorigo Fights for Client Rights Including Access to Ivermectin for COVID-19 Patients At Risk
Especially if elderly high risk patients present advanced COVID-19, Lorigo has personally seen the drug potentially contribute to saving the lives of clients. Interestingly, the attorney reports that it would appear that hospital administrations are the most recalcitrant to the idea, even if the patients and the ICU doctor are in support. It’s as if the COVID-19 wings of all hospitals are completely opposed to any suggestion of this particular medication. In the age of COVID-19, the COVID-19 wing is sort of a “federalized” operation.
trialsitenews.com/american-hero-ralph-c-lorigo-fights-for-client-rights-including-access-to-ivermectin-for-covid-19-patients-at-risk/ CS Lewis said, “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.” …
Covid-19 vaccine passports, the latest insult in the unending stream of scientifically inapt actions as outlined above, is already driving extensive anguish and debate. These digital passports linked to one’s entire life experience with geolocated data and one’s personal medical information represents the latest intrusion and attack on our freedoms that have been put before the easily distracted populace. These passports are simply unjustifiable on any grounds, not the least of which is the fact that SARS CoV-2 is no more deadly on a population level than influenza. Ostensibly, the passports are designed to allow individuals to partake in everyday commerce and “life” with freedom.
http://www.aier.org/article/vaccine-passports-vs-freedom-itself/(Whitney Webb Militarized Facebook here.)
Top US officials are reportedly calling for a hard look at China’s plans for a digital yuan, after raising concerns that the new currency may potentially challenge the greenback as the world’s dominant reserve currency.
Officials at the Treasury, State Department, Pentagon, and National Security Council are currently trying to explore the potential implications of China’s new sovereign digital currency, people familiar with the matter told Bloomberg…
Last year, the People’s Bank of China revealed plans to have its sovereign digital currency ready in time for the 2022 Winter Olympics. China became the first country in the world to test such a product on a national level.
According to the Chinese central bank, the new currency will share some features with cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin. The digital yuan is projected to replace banknotes and coins.
The White House is said not to be planning any measures against the e-yuan, but is highly interested in creating a digital dollar.
http://www.rt.com/business/520768-digital-yuan-threat-dollar/ I personally like that the US may create a competitive (lossless-I-presume) digital dollar to replace paper $100 bills as the global anonymously circulating currency of economies everywhere. If the initial creation of each “dollar” lies with the Treasury, not with private banking, then the benefits of “seigniorage” accrue to the collective, not the private. Creation of debt-money-at-interest could be curtailed, or value contributed to the commons (even if through a captured bureaucracy).
April 15, 2021 at 6:01 pm #73217madamski cafone
ParticipantLife.
April 15, 2021 at 6:03 pm #73218madamski cafone
ParticipantChinese cryptocurrency: the first of a seris of increasingly specific timeframes and strategies by which the rest of the world is given a chance to get their affairs in order before the Big Meltdown?
April 15, 2021 at 6:10 pm #73219madamski cafone
Participant@ Mr Roboto
“Maybe I’m just kidding myself, but part of me wants to believe that if something like Covid would have happened thirty years ago, we would have treated it with something that works and works well and is as potentially cheap and plentiful…”
We did it with smallpox, which is scary virulent, scary lethal, and scary painful. But we used a real vaccine. I have a scar on my upper forearm from my 8th grade smallpox vaccination.
But we still keep viable samples of smallpox in most major nations’ biowar (aka research?) labs.
Just in case we need a REAL pandemic.
“WHO’s experts have agreed that no valid reason exists to retain smallpox virus stocks for DNA sequencing, diagnostic tests, or vaccine development.6 In 2006, WHO’s experts concluded: “Sufficient sequence information on the virus was now available; no further research requiring access to live variola virus was considered essential.” They also determined that “the number of detection and diagnostic systems for variola virus now available was adequate.”6 Antivirals are not absolutely required because existing vaccines are effective and diagnostic tests are rapid and accurate. And WHO experts have recently suggested that drugs against smallpox could be developed without the dangerous US experiments with live smallpox virus intended to create an animal model of human infection. WHO advisers suggest that this could be accomplished through the far safer route of using monkeypox virus.7”
Should the US and Russia destroy their stocks of smallpox virus?
Even for a headline, that’s monstrously dumb. A very special kind of special kind of stupid.
April 15, 2021 at 6:30 pm #73220Mr. House
ParticipantBoots on the ground, in a work “meeting” currently. They’re talking about vaccine clinics and the response to them doesn’t sound like they’re going well. They ended up having to call people to get people to sign up. Lots of no shows also.
April 15, 2021 at 6:43 pm #73221Mr. House
ParticipantNow they’re talking about booster shots in the fall, and if you’ve got friends and family, get em in for the shot. Heard a clip on NPR the other day and someone was asking why we had purchased so many shots compared to US population. Now you know, everything we said last spring is coming true. Vaccine passports, booster shots all the time. Medical tyranny cause you ain’t qualified to comment on this topic bub.
April 15, 2021 at 6:57 pm #73222Germ
ParticipantEverything we already knew about masks, Vit D etc etc.
“The pandemic is over.”
Pathologist Dr Ryan Cole Telling the Truth about Covid:
https://rumble.com/vfa4dd-3421-dr-ryan-cole-telling-the-truth-about-covid-share-this-everywhere.html
April 15, 2021 at 7:37 pm #73223Dimitri
ParticipantRe Greece: TUI decided everything will be open after May 14
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April 15, 2021 at 8:42 pm #73224madamski cafone
ParticipantNow seems an auspicious time to begin local boycoptt groups. Not for media consumption but for immediate local impact.
Sample strategy: Janme Businessowner, I won’t patropnize your store anymore unless you rescind the covid nonsense or (more likely and about as effective), display a sign officially protesting covid policy and asking others to do same. Safe for them at least in the short run. That would eb the Stick.
For Carrot, not only your resumed patronage but a pledge of support, whatever support one feels able to give. The tide is at limbo, with the outflow beginning to make itself known.
My persopnal motivation for such is not so much Stop the Covid Madness! but ionstead, what the oppressors do: never let a crisis go to waste. This is a time to form community bonds, whence all actual genuine political POWER flows.
April 15, 2021 at 8:55 pm #73225Germ
ParticipantEnjoy some of the hilarity surrounding the Coronapanic:
“… the deniers who lived their lives were correct. Avoiding all contact proved idiotic. The “doubters” had science on their side.
It’s all yet again a reminder that hysterical certitude isn’t the same as knowledge. Emotion is its own form of denial. ”April 15, 2021 at 9:11 pm #73226WES
ParticipantWe know 100% that ivermectin was suppressed.
The evidence. Many state governors banned ivermectin treatment at the very beginning of covid. Example. The governor of Michigan.
April 15, 2021 at 9:21 pm #73227Germ
ParticipantAnd Now Proof: Covid Vaccines are MORE DANGEROUS Than Covid:
April 15, 2021 at 9:22 pm #73228my parents said know
ParticipantWhen I walk into an establishment, the clerk- unaware of me at first- is maskless (thank goodness!). I come in with mine in hand and say cheerfully: “I’ll leave mine of if you’ll leave yours off.” Sometimes it works.
“I’ll bare mine if you’ll bare yours” has also worked, and when it doesn’t it still brings a smile.Interesting. I just got a 502 you took too long to complete message. First time. And it only took me a few minutes to write the above. Lucky I copy before I post.
April 15, 2021 at 10:39 pm #73229cloudhidden
Participant@ my parents
Tried that approach yesterday and got the same result. We both enjoyed the transaction and being able to see each other’s faces.April 15, 2021 at 11:09 pm #73230zerosum
ParticipantMy ivermectin story (Stromectol By Merck)
It was back order until 14 april.
I got it from the pharmacy.
Its a 4 pill pack of 3mg (for my weight 12 mg), to take on an empty stomach with lots of water.
If I get symptoms I’ll call my dr, to get a test. If I’m positive, meaning the symptoms are still there, then the dr. will tell me to take my 4 pills.Lets back a bit. My dr. appointment was virtual. Therefore, since I did not know his position on Ivermectin I emailed the following info. He was in agreement with my present preventative treatment, (zinc, V D3, V C)
https://www.healthlinkbc.ca/medications/fdb5119
This section contains uses of this drug that are not listed in the approved professional labeling for the drug but that may be prescribed by your health care professional. Use this drug for a condition that is listed in this section only if it has been so prescribed by your health care professional.This drug may also be used for other parasitic infections, including lice and scabies.
Take this medication by mouth with a full glass of water (8 ounces or 240 milliliters) on an empty stomach at least 1 hour before a meal. Ivermectin is usually taken as a single dose or series of doses, or as directed by your doctor.
Dosage is based on your weight, medical condition, and response to treatment.
Strongyloidiasis of the Intestinal Tract
15-24 kg: 3 mg PO once25-35 kg: 6 mg PO once
36-50 kg: 9 mg PO once
51-65 kg: 12 mg PO once (4 pills of 3 mg)
66-79 kg: 15 mg PO once
>80 kg: 200 mcg/kg PO once
https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/news/2019/01/update-on-new-drug-and-medical-device-authorizations.html
health-products.canada.ca/dpd-bdpp/info.do?lang=en&code=97110
Product information
From Health Canada
September 2018 Stromectol To treat patients with parasite infections that may be acquired in high-risk regions or when travelling.pdf.hres.ca/dpd_pm/00047237.PDF
People that have allergies keep epipens, just in case.
I keep Invermectin just in case.
——April 15, 2021 at 11:14 pm #73231zerosum
ParticipantInteresting Story.
I mentioned to a retired lady dr (in some kind of branch of agriculture,) that I obtained Ivermectin.” Oh my god! That’s a poison for dogs. We are phasing it out. Don’t take that.”
The tone of her remarks were
(You poor dumb, uneducated serf. Take my advise. I know better.)Obviously, if she gets covid before me, she will not get my supply.
She’ll have to wait for her back order.
Surely, she must know that it is and has been used widely for many year for millions of people with no bad effects -
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