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  • #72301
    Mr. House
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    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/trump-was-right-sunlight-destroys-covid-8x-faster-scientists-believed-study-shows

    Seems like he was right about a lot of stuff on covid and very early also. I find that strange, who was telling him this stuff?

    #72302
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Was it all made up? Was it all just the flu from the getgo and then made worse by those who were supposed to be treating it? Was it worth a year of your life and the rest of your freedoms?

    #72303
    zerosum
    Participant

    I’m trying to do my part with positive ivermectin stories

    https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021/03/its-time-to-talk-about-ivermectin.htmlQuote from Yves Smith
    Read the comment section

    “Big Pharma Merck has recently been doing all it can to discourage the use of this drug as well. Merck used to hold the patent on ivermectin in the USA. Interestingly, they have a new drug that will be very expensive that they are now touting (no data released yet). I wonder what their motivations are for attempting to blackball their own drug ivermectin?”
    —–
    Why ivermectin will not be approved.
    It [Ivermectin] actually had an EUA March to June, but revoked I think on June 25, no doubt due to industry pressure. One of the dirty little secrets of the vaccine EUA’s is that by law they can’t be used unless FDA is able to find there is no other alternative, preventive, or treatment. So widely available HCQ or Ivermectin would have prevented the vaccine EUA which would have required proceeding to a full BLA [biologics license application] and that would have taken years or so, even ‘hurrying’ as much as possible.

    https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/human-regulatory/overview/public-health-threats/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/treatments-vaccines/covid-19-vaccines

    Did you get it?
    Approving HCQ or Ivermectin would have prevented everyone else from getting their vaccine approved and laughing all the way to the bank.

    #72304
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Its almost like every official action that was taken was actually going to make things worse………….

    #72305
    Mr. House
    Participant

    stolen from zerohedge

    “They lied about masks.

    They lied about social distancing.

    They lied about shut downs.

    They lied about HQC.

    They lied about ivermectin.

    They lied about the vaccines.

    They lied about covid.

    Now they want vaccine passports, why?

    To protect your health, naw, there is something in that vaccine that they want everyone to have!”

    #72306
    Mr. House
    Participant
    #72307
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    No one has commented on “CDC Real-World Study Confirms Protective Benefits of mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines”

    I followed the link, read through the page, didn’t find anything that makes sense. Am I missing something? Here is one paragraph …

    “One of this study’s strengths is its design: participants self-collected nasal swabs each week for RT-PCR laboratory testing, regardless of whether they had developed symptoms of illness. Researchers were able to look for evidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection irrespective of symptoms. A small number (10.7 percent) of infections in this study were asymptomatic (i.e., did not result in symptoms). However, the majority of infections (58 percent) occurred among people whose infections were identified by testing before they developed symptoms or knew they were infected. The study demonstrates that these two mRNA vaccines can reduce the risk of all SARS-CoV-2 infections, not just symptomatic infections.”

    Huh? Am I completely incapable of reading and understanding basic English? What did that activity prove and how did it equate with a study??

    #72308
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @zerosum: Isn’t Yves Smith a bit late to the game? TAE has covered Ivermectin extensively since … idk, someone help me out here … last year sometime …

    #72309
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Yves smith is a coward in many ways. She goes which ever way the wind blows. Also she won’t admit she’s wrong or apologize to anyone she censored or banned because they didn’t believe in the religion of covid. Read the comments on that article. Still tons of people who refuse to admit they were wrong.

    #72310
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @Mr. House: I don’t visit the NK site anymore. Ever. Yves Smith has censored and banned over way more topics than just covid. You either agree and are in “the club” or you are tossed over the wall.

    I was being kind and generous with my question to zerosum. 🙂

    #72311

    //doctors4covidethics.medium.com/rebuttal-letter-to-european-medicines-agency-from-doctors-for-covid-ethics-april-1-2021-7d867f0121e

    #72312
    Mr. House
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    She banned me once around the 2016 election because i called hillary clinton a carpet muncher. Not that their is anything wrong with that, i just think hillary is and due to “politics” won’t admit it, which in my eyes is worse then calling someone a name.

    #72313
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    This is the only place I comment so never got banned at NK, but when the most interesting commenters starting getting berated and then banned I quit visiting.

    #72314
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    upstateNYer: No one has commented on “CDC Real-World Study Confirms Protective Benefits of mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines”

    That’s from a poorly-written press release. Here’s the full report:
    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7013e3.htm

    Unlike the vaccine trials done by the drug companies before Emergency Use Authorization, this study did better testing for asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic infections. which added to the number of people for whom the vaccine didn’t prevent infection.

    “Estimated adjusted vaccine effectiveness of full immunization was 90% (95% confidence interval [CI] = 68%–97%); vaccine effectiveness of partial immunization was 80% (95% CI = 59%–90%)”

    According to these results, and subject to the limitations of the study, there is 95% confidence that the effectiveness of full immunization, against the Covid strains present at the time of the study, is somewhere between 68% and 97%, for a 3-month period (December 14, 2020–March 13, 2021).

    #72315
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Online discourse should never be banned or censored unless you are advocating some very vile things. But asking questions and asking people to consider alternatives is never ban worthy. Funny she moved out of NYC right at the end of 2019. Just like the record number of CEOS that resigned in 2019. Almost like someone said here’s the gameplan, and they didn’t want to be a part of it. But who knows, up is down and down is up these days.

    #72316

    Oh my goodness! It’s not green and you’ll have to cut and paste and add the aitch-teetee-pee-ess,
    but it posted!
    It’s worth a read.

    #72317
    Mr. House
    Participant

    pointing out a coup might be occurring or that the media is trying to scare the shit out of people, or that the medical industry is corrupted, are not ban worthy in my opinion. Neither is not agreeing with MMT. The problem with people wedded to ideology or ideas (Yves, Wolf Richter) is that they can not think without them. I belong to the common sense party, we’re now accepting members!

    #72318
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Thanks, Doc Robinson, should have known you would find the actual study. 🙂 I skimmed it. I understand the logic behind their conclusion but, as in other studies on these vaccines, the inherent flaw is exposure since that variable can’t be controlled without purposeful exposure of people to the virus. To determine whether reduced infection was a result of vaccination the researchers would need to pair a vaccinated and non-vaccinated person to work/live together for that time period. They could then compare infection rates between the two. That would be closer to a valid study, if they had also factored in for any co-morbidity, etc.

    Thank you for providing the link!

    #72319

    We put the pontoon in yesterday (there was still some ice on the lake), but today is 60 and sunny and the ten day outlook is 20+ over average (F) temps.
    I have Spring Fever, and I hope it turns into a pandemic!

    #72320
    Germ
    Participant

    I bought Ivermectin from Swiss Policy Research, and also bought Azithromycin and Budesonide inhalers.
    I’m in UK.

    Paid using my Revolut card. Very simple.

    Was taking 15mg IVM every three weeks prophylactically from beginning Oct until a few weeks ago,
    Have stopped now.

    Will restart at the beginning of the next flu season.

    #72321
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    If anyone wants to know what the smell and taste of home was for me as child, learn to make homemade bread. I am doing that today and cooking it in the Kitchen Queen wood stove

    #72322
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Does it strike anyone as bizarre that we’re purchasing meds from India and self-treating for covid? I’d wager most of us didn’t see this coming a year ago. Is there a LOL emoticon I can insert here?

    #72323
    zerosum
    Participant

    upstateNYer
    Mr. House
    ” Isn’t Yves Smith a bit late to the game?”

    Yes. However, I did find new info, links, and opinions to pass on to everyone.
    Besides, I would say that we, at TAE, are early.
    There are way too many negative things being said about Ivermectin.
    The scales needs positive balancing

    #72324
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @zerosum, you are correct. Here on TAE we’re early. Was texting with a friend in FL the other day who worries about the state relaxing guidelines. I mentioned Ivermectin being effective. She came back with a link to Ivermectin that described it as a dog wormer, then added an “lol” to make sure I wasn’t offended, I guess. I sent her a link to the “Yale dr/researcher backs use of Ivermectin in treating covid” article. Ya gotta start small, that’s an easy article to read, and the word Yale is in it. One baby step to spreading the word.

    #72325
    Germ
    Participant

    Dr Mike Yeadon, former CSO and VP, Allergy and Respiratory Research Head with Pfizer Global R&D and co-Founder of Ziarco Pharma Ltd, talks about his grave concerns about the Coronavirus jab –

    A worthwhile listen:

    https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-delingpod-the-james-delingpole-podcast/id1449753062?i=1000515435267

    #72326
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Mr. House wrote:

    “Was it all made up? Was it all just the flu from the getgo and then made worse by those who were supposed to be treating it? Was it worth a year of your life and the rest of your freedoms?”

    That is what I believe among other things

    #72327
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Germ: Dr Mike Yeardon podcast link. Listening now. Good lord.

    #72328
    Boogaloo
    Participant

    I have mixed feelings about Naked Capitalism. I appreciate that they made a determined effort to keep covering a wide range of topics other than COVID. I think they cover a lot of worthwhile topics that the mainstream press ignores. I will continue to visit — but these days I mostly stay away from the comments, especially on contentious topics where I hold a differing view — like on Bitcoin. The comments section is an echo chamber when it comes to MMT and all things monetary.

    I have also ordered from India. A heads up about the site: You post what you want, and then a dozen Indian companies will email you their offers until you pick one. The emails stop after a couple weeks — they give up, and they don’t spam you after that. The service and speed will depend on the particular company you select. I had my Ivermectin in a week.

    #72329
    WES
    Participant

    Michael Reid:

    Well we definately share a common interest!
    A love of fresh bread!

    Your kitchen queen wood stove reminds me of the many such wood stoves I encountered as a youth.
    My Grandmother on my Mom’s side had a big kitchen wood stove which she used to cook meals on.
    I can remember using an axe to cut splinters for starting the wood stove fire plus getting cut dried wood from the woodshed just off the kitchen. There was an axe and a wood stump for splitting dried firewood on the floor.
    (My Father, told me, when he was courting my Mom, had to split wood in there, to prove himself worthy!) You know the traditional farm test of the day!

    Grandpa would cut trees in the winter from the farms wood lot and then cut them up with a big saw blade attached to various farm equipment. Then the cut wood was left out in the sun to dry before being put in a wood storage shed. I think it was a 2 year cycle. From there the wood made it’s way to the farmhouse wood shed beside the kitchen. Naturally I loved getting firewood for Grandma!

    My Grandmother would prepare a big hot lunch (basically supper) for all of my Grandfather’s hired farm workers (3 to 5). He had about 4 to 5 farms (over 600 acres).
    My Grandfather once said to me he couldn’t pay his hired help anymore than anybody else but he sure could feed then better, thanks to Grandma! Meals were always 3 course plus desert plus pies. Everybody then took a brief nap afterwards! Naturally Mom was a great cook too! I think Mom got Dad through his tummy!

    The other neat thing about the wood stove was it’s exhaust pipe went up through the upstairs floor through a very fancy floor grate. In the morning we often would often look down through the grate on the floor to see what Grandma was doing! Also we could feel the hot air rising on chilly mornings!

    Basically everything about life on the farm revolved around that kitchen wood stove!

    #72330
    WES
    Participant

    I see President Trump has now been totally banned from Facebook and the other big techs!

    You can’t post anything about President Trump!

    None of his speeches, his answers to press questions, no written words, absolutely nothing about him even if second hand stuff!

    President Trump has been totally cancelled!

    I guess they are still afraid of him!

    #72332
    WES
    Participant

    I am rather amused that the main stream media are having a lot of trouble making their “white supremacy” narrative stories attacking the capital guarded by all those troops, stick these days!

    Today some poor sumuck, down on his luck, rammed his vehicle into a police road barricade in Washington DC. Headlines “Terrorists attacks Capital!” Umm not quite! An African American and oh my God, a Muslim to boot. The poor sucker brought a knife to a gun fight! (We know how that ended!) We the press will all just skip those unimportant irrelevant minor details and push the narrative anyway!

    Asian women viciously attacked by “white supremist”. Umm not quite! Sorry wrong color and recently paroled convict, so we will just sort of quietly drop that story and hope nobody notices!

    White supremacy terrorist mass shoots a whole bunch of people! Umm not quite! Yeah lots of dead people but the narrative won’t work because uh well muslim so we will just not report that part!

    #72333
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Approving HCQ or Ivermectin would have prevented everyone else from getting their vaccine approved and laughing all the way to the bank.

    Yep, and those are the dirtbags who should be reviled for “trying to kill grandma”.

    #72334
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @ WES

    It sounds like a beautiful memory to me

    #72335
    WES
    Participant

    I see the democrat controlled Phoenix, Arizona County election board has denied the Arizona senate access to their election ballets and especially to their vote counting machines, despite state court approval!

    I am wondering what the Phoenix election board has to hide, if the official election results are on the up and up? Besides, what does it matter, the election is over! Everyone knows the most popular president ever, won!

    I mean what is wrong with not allowing these ballots to be run through the vote counting machines, a second time? What could possibly go wrong?

    Nothing! A corrupt democratic judge will accidently get stuck in the voting machine invalidating the recount!

    #72336
    WES
    Participant

    Did you know you now can only “like” joe’s videos on all the big tech sites?
    Yeah, you know the thumbs up icon if you like it!
    9
    The thumb ‘s down icon, if you don’t like joe, the most popular President “ever” shows no number beside it!
    So, now you can’t “cancel” poor joe even if you want to!
    Disliking joe is considered a “hate” crime now!

    #72337
    zerosum
    Participant

    Michael Reid:, WES + others
    Memory lane. Did you encounter a daybed in your youth?
    Do a search for “Yellow kitchen with daybed” and see if a memory comes out and into the light. 🙂

    #72338
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @ madamski

    In my mind I have tried to post to you on significant issues (perhaps only in my mind). Maybe tomorrow

    #72339
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    @ Germ
    Dr Mike Yeadon, former CSO and VP, Allergy and Respiratory Research Head with Pfizer Global R&D and co-Founder of Ziarco Pharma Ltd, talks about his grave concerns about the Coronavirus jab –

    Thank you for that excellent Podcast.
    My father worked for Pfizer for about a decade way back when (50’s/60’s/70’s).
    So many things have changed over the decades…

    Dr Mike Yeadon basically confirmed what most of us here at TAE already know…
    And a very big tip of the hat to our host, Ilargi, for being literally on the cutting edge of the Covid pandemic and all the peripherals.
    Not a small effort…especially in today’s world of lies and false flag events…
    IMO, the take-away is; believe nothing; verify, verify, verify, everything…everything!!!!

    #72340
    WES
    Participant

    Hey, you won’t believe this exciting news!

    The drug companies have issued findings from a Swedish study showing that older men who take Viagra frequently, live longer!

    Duh! Right!

    Maybe men who have sex more frequently are likely getting more healthy exercise chasing their women around the bedroom? It is hard exhausting work trying to keep the women folk happy and content!

    I don’t suppose it has anything to do with “enlarging” drug company profits?

    #72341
    WES
    Participant

    V. Arnold:

    You need to take more Viagra! It is supposed to be good for you!

    Unfortunately, I can’t take Viagra because it is “contra indicated” for anyone with Ushers Syndrome (combines RP with hearing loss – the eye and ear light and sound nerve cells are identical) like me! Not really sure why though.

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