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    Pablo Picasso Portrait of Dora with bun 1937   • A Tale of Two Cities (Batiushka) • Biden Wants Regime Change In Russia – Tulsi Gabbard (RT) • Ze
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    #113421
    V. Arnold
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    Awesome Debt Rattle today Ilargi…thanks so much…

    Pablo Picasso Portrait of Dora with bun 1937

    Wonderful Picasso; this is his art that I love…

    #113423

    ; this is his art that I love…

    Oh you poor man 🤣

    #113424
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Oh you poor man 🤣

    Indeed… 😉

    #113425
    Red
    Participant

    The Big Picture – what is it?
    The Big Picture has three major branches, three major objectives of the Beast to fulfill. Imagine the Beast as a multiple-tentacled Monster-Octopus. Listed not necessarily in order of priority, but rather as a simultaneous bulldozing approach, they include:

    i) Massive depopulation, genocide, worldwide; an eugenist agenda on which the Gates and Rockefellers et al, have worked already for decades, and already their predecessor generations were obsessed with eugenics. Less people, less “useless eaters” – and consumers of scarce, unrenewable resources. So bluntly presents it Yuval Noah Hariri, Israeli “intellectual” and close adviser to Klaus Schwab, the WEF’s eternal CEO;

    ii) Shifting assets from the lower and middle echelons to the top – the elite, billionaires, individuals, as well as corporate finance, such as BlackRock, Vanguard, State Street; others may include Fidelity, City Bank, Bank of America and many more.

    The first three alone are interlinked as shareholders and can act as one, controlling an estimated 25 trillion dollars, worldwide, giving them a leverage power of way above US$ 100 trillion (compared to the world’s GDP of about US$ 90 trillion), thereby having virtual control over every country on the globe, and

    iii) Digitization of everything, connecting everything with everything, eventually with the mega-powerful ultra-shortwaves 5G and soon to come 6G. Through these electromagnetic waves, they may access our brains. It’s Klaus Schwab’s pipedream. It includes digital worldwide unform vaxx-passes, managed through the infamous QR-code, or similar, with practically illimited info-storage capacity.

    Currently it has a potential of storing more than 30,000 pieces of information about each one of us. Those who manage the QR-code, know you better than you know yourself. It is an updated version of Bill Gates’ Agenda ID2020.

    “Be Aware. Take Care.

    Don’t believe what governments say. Warn everyone.

    Please remember, you are not alone. More and more people are waking up. And once they are awake, they don’t go back to sleep. We are already a far bigger force, than the conspirators would have you believe. If we are going to win this war, then we have to fight with passion, with the truth and we have to fight with determination. No mask, no test, no jab. Don’t trust the government; no mass media, and remember – we have God on our side.”

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/rise-fall-beast/5789391

    #113427
    John Day
    Participant

    @Dr D: Thanks for expounding on morality and restraint in aworld of violence last night.


    @aspnaz
    : What he said…

    #113428
    Dr. D
    Participant

    The “Dark Brandon” meme. Um…that meme has Biden standing before the ‘Nazi’ eagles and flag. And the DNC is embracing this as good and great. …Okay then, you do you. The reason the Right was mocking you for it, and you say, “What if we are (Nazis)? We’re Iron Eagle, and PROUD.”

    Sure. You go print that throughout America. See you at the polls. (And the gun stores).

    “Pfizer could be bankrupted”

    I mean, yes, we hope so, but corporations exist as chess pieces to be used and sacrificed. If they killed 25M people nationally and 1B worldwide then the sacrifice or trade of a chess bishop was more than worth it. They’ll just make another corporation tomorrow. Bankruptcy isn’t a punishment, silly. Maybe somebody, or about 6,000 somebodies, should go to jail.

    ““Either we will have a One World Dictatorship imposed on us by the Western elites, or else we will have Freedom and Peace, Justice and Prosperity.”

    There are more options, but kind of, yes. Davos represents the Nazi ethos. They expressly pay, arm, and support literal Nazis. (Azov) They are the literal children and grandchildren of Nazis. (Canada) They are the childhood collaborators of the Nazi Reich. (Soros) They are race-driven, war-expansive, collectivist mass-murderers keen on ethnic cleansing: keeping the food and riches for the “good”, and cutting them off for the “Bad” (Holland food). Nazism is a religion, and as religious zealots they fight to the last man and total destruction of their (host) country. (Germany and Ukraine). And America and Russia are going to annihilate the Nazi Reich again, right now. That doesn’t make us good, but our ethos is different, one of hard work and individuals, not theft and collectivism. Perhaps “least-bad.” The requirements of hard work is to have court, justice, peace, and the work itself when unstolen creates widespread prosperity. It’s not like magic, though, it’s messy. A balance of power among agitators.

    “Major Rating Agencies Declare Ukraine In Default (RT)”

    China is also in default, if anyone remembers Evergrande. They just say it isn’t, within a framework of universal corruption. They pretend to report, and we pretend to trade it. But there is no underlying reality and hasn’t been in years.

    “Ukraine Struggles To Find Money To Pay Troops – WSJ (RT)”

    Pay? WTF? They are paying them with a bayonet up their -ss if they don’t die for Great Leader. Nazi to the core. Ukraine is fleeing the Russian provinces, reported by CNN yesterday.

    “Former FBI Assistant Director: ‘Handful in Leadership’ Politicizing Bureau (ET)”

    Okay, so you’re political then. So you won’t mind if we erase the whole organization and replace them with something non-political, right? No? You just want us piddling around the edges, leaving corrupt political self-serving, crack-stealing-and-smoking, ex-wife harassing, evidence-tampering agents intact within? No thanks. It’s way easier to defund you and play golf. MS-13 is already roaming the nation unmolested or even protected by you, so it wouldn’t be worse than now.

    Governments are always organized crime. That’s why they need to be as small as functionally possible. It gives we the people the most responsibility and maximum leverage over them.

    FBI Sends ‘Clear Message’ to Trump, His Supporters (ET)”

    Sure, but sends clear message to the People that the FBI and Federal government has no support and no legitimacy. Also that they are extremely weak to be driven to such actions. It’s totally worth it to keep advertising this message of weakness even if Trump were jailed. Nothing could be better, since WE are the only army that can stop them. The People. WE are the government, not them. They work for US, and if they don’t, we remove them by many means and install employees that do.

    Now why do you need to suffer and not use violence to win? Because you need to gather the army of US to the banner.

    “Why else would they ban Russian athletes, journalists and even ordinary citizens?”

    Because they are Nazis, and therefore proud racists. Slavs are the most hated of all ethnic groups, far more than black and white they pretend at here. (While calling most prominent Blacks “white supremacists”, without irony)

    “..under the Constitution’s separation of powers, Congress, has no legitimacy even to hold a criminal investigation: that power belongs to the Judiciary..”

    I mean, yes, but what’s an “Investigation”? Congress has to investigate how the money is used and how the machines of government legally operate. That IS their job. That’s extremely close to judicial review and if crimes are discovered anyone can refer them. You, me, committees of Congress… It’s not as clear as we’d like. Unlike steroids in baseball they distracted with for years, they have no possible review of that.

    without any concept of how this is going to end or what it’s supposed to lead to,” Kissinger said”

    Open mouth: lie come out. But this is Kissinger, so of course. His pal Brzezinski talked with Harry all about it for decades, since 1976 at least: they need to own Russia, they are going to use Ukraine to do it, and yes, start WWIII as the WSJ says they just did. This isn’t a mystery: so many years repeating the same plan they were all 30yo then. Kissinger is of course telling the kids they blew it and lost, so back up before you lose everything us Nazis and oligarchs built for the last 100 years. They won’t, because they’re pin-headed inbred morons who have been outplayed by 3rd rate bureaucrat and a former game show host. Bye Bye Harry. Bye Bye Davos.

    “UN War on Fertilizer people eating began in Sri Lanka (Shellenberger)
    ” Fixed it.

    Mass death ‘R’ us. Socialists: famine and million-man democide follow within months sure as night follows day. The UN has so outdone the Nazi Reich, they deserve an Iron Cross for Valor in the face of murdering all poor deplorables worldwide. Starting with Bush in Gulf I; couldn’t get enough, approved every war since then by us on brown people.

    “Zimbabwe Hails Gold Coin Success and Wants to Issue More (BBC)”

    Not that I can attribute sense to them, but no reason to do this unless something is going to happen to the US$. Either up (exchange rates crush EM’s) or down (US$ become worthless).

    Wolves: Yes, that’s all true and I approve, but that works great for you guys in a cube-farm in Levittown and SanJose. Humans that actually live where you’re running your ant-farm experiments bear the complete 100% cost of that change, while you pay nothing, happy to see it on a Sierra Club calendar. That’s what politics is, right? Government directs activity: Who gets the benefits vs who pays the costs?

    Rural people, obviously. Their job is to do what they’re told and pay all the costs. In this case, the American West now has to fight the wolves again, as they come down on all cattle, herds, down to the barn, the back porch, your dogs and even children. Now this doesn’t happen a lot, but how do you feel if you have to holster a .44 every time you left the kitchen to sit on the back deck or balcony? Go down the block to the Bodega? Let’s say we took BelAir and said we’ll release all violent criminals in California there and only there? Or ChristChurch, London, Athens? Mostly you’d come home, but sometimes not, and sometimes you’d be killed and eaten. Sometimes you’d go to work and your cube and paycheck would be there, and sometimes there would be a bloody hole and the cube’s missing, and 2 paychecks don’t appear that month for the mortgage. Never know: it’s a crap shoot. Still on board?

    The government said they would compensate for any damages and they didn’t. They said the wolves would be harmless to humans and they aren’t. No surprise to a single human living in these states and areas who — like every. single. thing. — told them this would happen. But they did it because an NGO in Fairfax worked with billionaires in Delaware and Long Island, in Rosemont and the Hamptons, to make it happen, and for some weird reason didn’t want to release wolves in the Pine Barrens or on Martha’s Vinyard, Philly, Albany, downtown Boston where they are also native. Because then they would pay the costs, when we can make YOU pay the costs, and lose your farm and die. Which is cheerful news for us when we fly into Jackson Hole on 500 private jets.

    Now like I said, I’m actually for the existence of wolves and the western ecosystems but we also don’t drop land mines throughout your neighborhood and leave them. This requires a very long, complicated, extensive, and unknown re-adjustment. And at the same time, they outlaw guns so that you can only WATCH your horse, dog, or child being killed and torn to bloody pieces before your eyes. You are not ALLOWED to maintain territory of your own even as wolves reach overpopulation. Conclusion: Humans are the lowest form of life and must be killed wherever the are found, or found eating at least. Wolves, snail darters, trees, and tiny lizards have more meaning and value. That is #AntiEnvironmental, and #AntiScience, where humans ARE the animal, the ecosystem,humans are a part of nature that they say we are. Irony being, of course: people from Wyoming know this, and people from Fairfax and Brooklyn don’t. Guess whose opinion prevails?

    Can we pass one law that doesn’t kill farmers and rural people? Just to see what it feels like? Might work out to make food, you never know! If not, can you at the very least leave us alone with our .45s so we’re not literally eaten by wolves and grizzlies so that you can feel better over a soy mocha latte while very environmentally shopping for $10,000 of stuff you don’t need from China on Amazon? Thanks.

    #113429
    Armenio Pereira
    Participant

    Either we will have a One World Dictatorship imposed on us by the Western elites, or else we will have Freedom and Peace, Justice and Prosperity.” (Batiushka – emphasis mine)

    When we let nature be nature amazing things can happen.” (Mike Hudema)

    It’s Sunday: a lot of Miss Universe pageantry goin’ round TAE today.
    (Humans cannot deter Nature – they’re part of it, their role seemingly to bring about major change to the planet’s surface.)

    #113430
    John Day
    Participant

    Tulsi for VP 2024!

    🙂

    heh,heh, heh…

    #113431
    John Day
    Participant

    Armenio Pereira said: “Humans cannot deter Nature – they’re part of it, their role seemingly to bring about major change to the planet’s surface.”

    I have long wondered, and somebody else wondered here recently, if one of our tasks as a species is to bring fossil water and carbon to the surface to be used by life forms.

    #113432
    Germ
    Participant

    Ambulance calls for most serious conditions hit record

    “Last month saw the highest number of ambulance callouts for life-threatening conditions since records began, NHS England officials say.

    There were more than 85,000 category one calls, for situations like cardiac arrests and people stopping breathing.”

    The tick up started in mid-2021 🤔

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-62504401

    #113433
    zerosum
    Participant

    Bankruptcy and default means what I say, not what you think.
    • Major Rating Agencies Declare Ukraine In Default (RT)
    • Ukraine Struggles To Find Money To Pay Troops – WSJ (RT)

    Due to the lack of funds, the Ukrainian Central Bank has no choice but to print more money to allow the government to pay the troops and purchase arms and ammunition in order to keep fighting.

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    Kissinger explained.
    “Because if you believe that the final outcome of your effort has to be the imposition of your values, then I think equilibrium, (peace), is not possible.”
    ———–
    Murdering the poor, the deplorables and useless eaters, is easier than Murdering the “chose/rich/leaders/enablers/elites/nazi/racists people”.
    ———
    …. to be used/support the needs/requirements of the circle/forces of life. (the butterfly effect)
    ———–

    #113434
    John Day
    Participant

    Picture of Jenny in the finally completed new kitchen https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/charting-the-course

    A lot of overt injustice and criminality is apparent in the western world recently, and notably more so than before 2020, I’ll add. I think everybody notices. People have noticed this trend for even longer, I think, but could lay blame somewhere, like “Trump” and keep on going. That hasn’t slowed down. We are as politically polarized as I have ever seen. The shortages everywhere make everybody possessive and defensive. This explains so much unfairness and cost-shifting and blame-shifting onto other people or groups. Still, the corrupt economic system, increasingly unreliable, is still a system. It seems inevitable that the western financial system will overtly break in the way that the USSR broke and that China had The Cultural Revolution to place blame when its economy could no longer reliably meet basic needs. Cambodia caught that Chinese disease, too.
    The western financial system has to break sometime, because it is based on growth of energy and resource depleting economy, with production of pollution, on a finite planet, but it is breaking now because growth went negative a few years ago despite every trick that could be played.
    The name of the new game is “excuses to wield absolute power”. We got “Pandemic”, which played out. “War in Ukraine” has played out in the US, but it still seems to work on a lot of Europeans in the summer. Many will die miserably this winter unless the narrative changes soon. The US is trying “War against China” out, which should be versatile and durable, and should work for Chinese elites, too, as long as it doesn’t get too realistic, but it has to be “realistic”.
    Surplus Energy Economics looks at our current economic cusp between managing by scrimping and borrowing to homelessness because you can’t keep up payments on anything. This has been a very long time coming.
    Most of the west had peak prosperity in real economic terms around Y2k, whereas globally (China) it peaked just before COVID, but it’s in terminal decline because it costs so much to get energy and raw materials that wages have to be cut (factories offshored) which hollows out markets (workers buy stuff), and credit extension with falling interest rates has limits, which have been reached. All of the misrepresentations of real economy, like trading GNP (industrial output) for GDP (industrial output and lending transactions) is one of those. Lending money is as productive as making the car it buys.
    The way that this plays out is that GDP probably overstates real economy by something like 40%. Debt, the promise of future goods and services is 250% of GDP, or roughly 4 times GDP. Debt plus financial services together are 8 to 9 times real economy.
    This economy is an energy-expending system in a context of declining net energy, so the vast borrowing to live today can’t be repaid with surplus tomorrow.
    <a>#237. Asking for the moon</a>

    I’ll continue this reasoning where it leads in the current global economic context, with a new economic bloc forming outside of western finance.
    if financial and debt markets collapse, then notional wealth collapses to something like 12%, to real wealth. That 12% still requires a working economy, which just stopped existing,. When Chinese economy and the USSR were failing there was a parallel economic system somewhere that could patch-in. That’s what western financial economy was for both China (got the better deal from Nixon & Kissinger) and Russia/USSR.
    In our current setting the alternate global trade and finance regime is being laid out, and it’s mechanisms agreed in treaties and meetings. The driving force to it will not merely be cutting out the skim of western finance, but the opportunity to default upon $US denominated debt, essentially all foreign debt. That is the payoff to take that big of a risk. That is also the death knell of the western financial system, when it happens. However, it will be a parallel financial and trade system that the west can then join.
    That would be a rough transition, as China and Russia both had. However, the mitigation for the real economy would be that something like 3/4 of western debt is payable by the west to western financial interests, which are the interests of the top 1% for the most part. The key imperative would be to keep real economy from completely collapsing, to keep production from stopping, to keep factories and farms and cities operational.so that there could be a transition.
    We can reason that financial elites (aka “rich people”) want to prevent any such contingency plan from ever being formulated. Again and again it is pointed out that retirement plans would go bankrupt if the system were not supported, and that excuse has shoehorned-in vast wealth transfers to the most wealthy, both in 2009, and just recently. I see only the most wealthy having good contingency plans. I’ve got a vegetable garden, but I’ll starve and bake or freeze without city utilities. Having guns won’t even help. I’ve got no idea how this will really play out, but we seem to be in the lead-in to it.
    What economics might be constructed after the $US system goes the way of the Confederate dollar? Losers always get predated upon by winners, and that gets really creative and vicious. Stories abound. Potatoes in the ground don’t get stolen, but grain often does. You might get evicted, and lose access to those potatoes. What gives any of us “property rights”? I think I’d rather be in Yoakum than Chicago, but lots of small towns just stop existing during famines and upheavals.

    Catherine Austin Fitts has an excellent research piece about a topic she has long been researching, the “missing $21 trillion”. It’s not just that the Pentagon lost a lot of money by bad bookkeeping as Donald Rumsfeld announced 9/10/01, the day before the Office of Naval Intelligence, where the books were being audited, got taken out by a freak terrorist attack that took out that team exclusively. The money also slipped away through HUD, which had a massive loan program, more loans than the total mortgage loans in the US, in fact. In 1994, the US Federal Reserve banking system (owned by big banks) bought stock in the (sovereign, it turns out) Bank for International Settlements BIS), which can’t be audited, and which has opaque means to transfer wealth and assets.
    The thought came to me that the elimination of the entire $US financial system would never answer these questions, but would make them moot.
    ​ ​After 21 years of watching $21+ trillion go missing from U.S. federal accounts at HUD and the Department of Defense (DOD), I am often asked,
    “Where did the money go and how do we get it back?”

    Introduction

    #113435
    John Day
    Participant

    BATTLE FOR THE LARGEST NUCLEAR POWER PLANT IN EUROPE
    I saw a rumor that the Russians had er​e​cted power transmission infrastructure to reroute the electricity to Crimea, so the Kiev government could no longer sell it on to European buyers, before these attacks began.

    Battle For The Largest Nuclear Power Plant In Europe

    ​Steve Kirsch (Don’t look if you don’t want to know.)
    ​ ​A doctor friend of mine in Canada heard about 15 deaths of Canadian doctors over the last 9 months. He’s been in practice for 30 years. He’s never heard of any such unusual deaths before of doctors. Zero in 30 years. Why is he now, all of a sudden, hearing of so many deaths, and why are these deaths all happening very soon after vaccination?
    ​ ​From July 13 to July 28, 7 doctors died… an average of one doctor every other day for 2 weeks straight. And the causes of death were statistically unusual: two died swimming (which is very rare), one died in her sleep (very rare), etc.
    ​ ​The fact checkers assure us all that all of these doctors died for other reasons; the fact that they all died right after the vaccine was simply bad luck. That’s not the right metric. The fact checkers need to tell us the last time this happened where 7 doctors died in 14 days from unusual causes. They cannot. This is unprecedented.
    https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/fourteen-young-canadian-docs-die

    Bombshell Study: Vaccinated 5X More Contagious Than the Unvaccinated 10 Days After SARS-CoV-2 Infection
    https://www.trialsitenews.com/a/bombshell-study-vaccinated-5x-more-contagious-than-the-unvaccinated-10-days-after-sars-cov-2-infection-ae391446

    ​Dr. Jessica Rose: ​Is the spike protein acting as a prion with regard to hemoglobin molecules? And is porphyria being induced?
    This is a long article. And it’s very important.
    https://jessicar.substack.com/p/is-the-spike-protein-acting-as-a?

    #113436
    John Day
    Participant

    A Midwestern Doctor: Did the CDC just end COVID-19? (I think the word was getting out that the shots don’t work and they kill people, so it’s a useless crisis.)
    https://amidwesterndoctor.substack.com/p/did-the-cdc-just-end-covid-19

    ​You heard it from me, though​… Pierre Kory MD : The Miracle Not-Heard Around The World: The Success of Uttar Pradesh – Part 2
    The north Indian state of 231 million people eradicated COVID with an ivermectin treatment program, representing one of the greatest public health achievements in history. It was kept a global secret.
    https://pierrekory.substack.com/p/the-miracle-not-heard-around-the-fe9

    #113437
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    On violence, etc. .

    I’ve read and re-read what each of you commented (mostly yesterday, but some more today, too) on the subject of violence and what it ‘does/should’ or ‘doesn’t/shouldn’t’ have to do with current events ( “events” . . . . now there’s an understatement if I ever heard one!). By the way, it was a really enjoyable read. Pleasant and reassuring to see and know that there remain so many good and earnest thinkers still up and running despite the chaos (or to some degree partly because of it.)

    Each of you are drawing from deep waters with a broad net of both experiential knowledge and book learning, not to mention miles on the odometer both literally and figuratively, and it shows.

    What you think and write, therefore, reflects a lot more than if it were based on just one person’s idiosyncratic take on things. It’s more like a compendium of anthologies. Good stuff.

    So, moving right along to the main subject . . . there’s good news and bad news.

    The good news is that there is a clearly developed and generally agreed theme about the role of violence in what’s coming at us civilization-wise.

    The bad news is that I think so, too . . . . and I had been hoping that there was someone out there, among the vast numbers of people wiser than me, with essentially different (better) thoughts on the matter, because my idea is that we are all in for a very rough ride for a while, with violence always in the offering.

    On the other hand, part of the good news is that there is more good news.

    The bonus good news is that even though I may be crazy there is good company.

    #113438
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    The world may be going to Hell in a handbasket, or maybe it’s just going to Heaven via the Scenic Route.

    #113439
    Figmund Sreud
    Participant

    Charles Bradley

    F.S.

    #113440
    Dr P
    Participant

    a video from one of the biggest #climatard grifters on Twitter. This used to be a good daily review of things.

    #113441
    kultsommer
    Participant

    @John Day
    Kitchen is almost there and look’n good.
    What was that cool stool right in front of Jenny? Make and source? Thanks in advance.

    #113442
    John Day
    Participant

    @kultsommer: The cool stool is something I had never seen before, and got at the Texas State Surplus Store on Bolm Road in Austin for $5 a few weeks ago. All of the chairs were on sale for $5 each.
    I got 11 in total, but only this one stool.
    It is a mystery.

    #113443
    willem
    Participant

    Apparently the name “monkeypox” is racist, and the WHO wants the public to help rename it by suggesting new names:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/wokepox-who-asking-publics-help-re-naming-monkeypox

    My own nomination (shared by many, I think) is “moneypox”.

    And BTW, if “monkeypox” is racist, then surely “cowpox” is misogynist…

    #113444
    Noirette
    Participant

    Prev. thread, violence vs. non-violence.

    First, the line between the two is unclear…some actions can do great harm and even kill many ppl without any direct violent, physical, contact. (Vaxx anyone?)

    The PTB fear eruptions of ‘mob’ violence, on a scale that is ‘out of bounds’, agressing them, their ‘places’, ‘supply lines’, ‘freedom’…

    So they take pre-emptive action, on various fronts, more militarised police, more random actions (to instill fear), more protection for them, VIPs, more ‘districting’ (land areas, routes, occupied, securitised / barriers), more control of Joe6, etc. (The mini-model is: Israel.)

    Coupled naturally with non-repressed ‘lawlessness’ in certain areas, part of the ‘districting’, ‘containment’ and keeping up MIC revenues, which are shared by the Industry and the Pols.. kind of an auto-gaol..

    — About the USA, other countries have other schemas.

    One example of projection of that fear was the so-called Storming of the Capitol, an Insurrection! Mobs, wild (not!) entering the Ultimate Sacred Bastion of Power!

    To me, it looked like a fabricated, allowed, very small-scale “event” – and it was defeated… quite reassuring, cuddly, so to speak, while Ok-ing, OMG Trump Supporters! Such minor contrived, media-hyped poorly organised spectacles are a sign of indetermination, lack of direction, and weakness.

    Joe6, citizens, wanting to re-gain some ‘say’, some power will have to change their mind-set. The choice is not between violence / non-v, the problem is concerted action (of any kind) which has been corrupted by identity politics, to name just one factor.

    #113445
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @Willem

    I suggest, “MoneyDocs”

    #113446
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    @all
    I enjoyed reading the discussion about violence. It is something I have mulled over many times.

    DBS: Those who “oppress” us only do so when they are secure in the knowledge we will LET them oppress us. But they also knowing at the same time (or at least they should know) that we will continue to let them encroach upon our personally sovereign turf only up to the point where we say “No” , and not one bit further. “No” means no, and every living creature has a line-in-the-sand or tipping-point at which they just say “No” to further encroachment . . . . . for whatever reason that makes sense to them . . . and then proceeds (if still necessary) to physically/forcefully/“violently” demonstrate that they really did meant it when they said it.

    So long as we can be persuaded to NOT say “No!”, then the cowardly weasels who “oppress” us can just go on doing what they do best : lying cheating and stealing (with the occasional homicide thrown in for kicks).

    There is much truth in this. I put up with a great deal from my ex for many years (but not overt violence — he never physically hurt my body, and didn’t threaten me in that way.). However, it was the moment I watched him plunge a knife into his wrist that “something broke inside my brain.” I knew that the answer was “No” — that I would never put up with his shenanigans again. When he wanted to come home a few days later, I said, “No.”. He had no other place to go, so I amended my “No,” to: “If you drink alcohol I will obtain an order of protection.” 3 days later he was drunk, on the 4th he was served with an order or protection, when he showed up on the fifth day I called the police and he spent the night in jail. Problem solved. I didn’t use force myself…but I required force to keep him away and used legal means to obtain said force. All previous non-violent attempts to resolve the situation had spectacularly failed.

    #113447
    Susmarie108
    Participant

    RE: “Kissinger, Orban and Bolsonaro are the voices of reason these days.

    On Kissinger, consider this expansive view: “Modern US Warmongering Is Scaring Henry Kissinger”.

    This rings true to me. A perfect example of the type of action driving him mad is found in today’s news – US lawmakers head to Taiwan.

    From Caitlin’s post today (linked below):

    “I don’t know about you, but to me this warning is much, much more ominous coming from a bloodsoaked swamp monster than it would be from some anti-imperialist peace activist who was speaking from outside the belly of the imperial machine. This man is a literal war criminal who, as a leading empire manager, helped to unleash unfathomable horrors all around the world the consequences of which are still being felt today.”

    “Henry Kissinger is warning about the dangers of US warmongering not because he has gotten saner, but because the US war machine has gotten crazier. ”

    Modern US Warmongering Is Scaring Henry Kissinger

    Notes from the field: Conifers dying in Colorado. Similar to what I saw in Ohio. My Northern CA (Trinity County) conifers continue to die. Where will it end – or is this the end?

    LOVE to All. Om Shanti.

    #113448
    TAE Summary
    Participant

    * The Daily Covid
    – Myocarditis in the young up 50,000%
    – Pfizer stock up 250%
    – Pfizer will be sued into extinction
    – Doctors are dying; Ambulance calls at record high; Nothing to see here
    Monkeypox new. non-racist name: GOFPox

    * Politics
    – Joe Biden will rise from the ashes of dementia; Jill will be the wind beneath his wings
    – All news agencies agree Trump supporters are planning civil war; Newspeak = Samepeak
    – We will have either a one world dictatorship or freedom, peace, justice and prosperity, or maybe the age of Aquarius will dawn or maybe we’ll be assimilated into the Borg or maybe something completely different; Guaranteed one of those five
    – The Russians are the good guys; Red hats are the new white hats
    – The military industrial complex is the new dog, Congress the new tail and the American people the new doggy doo
    – We can’t talk with Russia; It’s like talking to your spouse after a fight; It means they won except with Russia there won’t be any reconciliation sex to make it worth swallowing your pride
    – FBI = RICO = Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization; But what racketeer could be influencing the FBI?
    – Constitutionally Congress doesn’t try cases, the courts don’t make laws and the executive doesn’t try cases or make laws. Constitutionally
    – The Globalist Motto: Digitization, Disparity, Depopulation
    – Ukraine is out of money and in default while Zimbabwe has success with gold
    – A new study shows letting wolves loose to freely hunt and breed in Washington DC would fix everything in a few years

    #113449
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    ““Either we will have a One World Dictatorship imposed on us by the Western elites, or else we will have Freedom and Peace, Justice and Prosperity.”
    Look, I am exceedingly skeptical. The slogan of the French Revolution was “Liberte, egalite, fraternite.” It is considered the turning point when the West was officially using the economic system called “capitalism.” The French Revolution devolved into guillotine overuse, Robespierre, followed by Napoleon, a return of the nobility, many Republics…. In the mid-1800s Marx saw that capitalism had not fulfilled the slogan of the French Revolution, and turned his philosophical training on trying to get to the bottom of why capitalism had not “delivered the goods” of liberty, equality, and brotherhood. Marx did not suggest a new political system, he critiqued an economic system. He pointed out that you cannot get “liberty, equality, and brotherhood,” from an economic system that encourages power and wealth to collect in ever fewer hands, building vast corporate dynasties and monopolies. He suggested that the answer was for the workers to “own the means of production.”

    Yes, I am quite aware that Marx’s economic ideas were perverted by later men to state that the representative of the workers was the government or “the Communist Party” and that this idea was paired with the totalitarianism that burst forth in the 20th century. However, I have been self-employed in part or whole since 1999. There are fundamental differences to self-employment vs. employment, and self-employment is much more empowering to the individual. (There are advantages to many people coming together as a company of workers…which is what makers worker cooperatives, ESOPs, worker-managed enterprises, and Holacracy quite interesting — could this be a way to both empower individuals and have the advantage of economies of scale?).

    It is obvious to me that the idea of a communist or socialist political party representing the workers (or a union representing workers) is an outgrowth of the “Republican” form of government — where a small group is tasked with representing the interests of a larger group. We end up back with an age old, tripartite question: rule of many by one (or a small group,) rule of many by their representatives, or self-rule. Each has advantages; each has disadvantages. Regardless, the higher the concentration of the population in a given space, the more that structure is needed (whether imposed or self-arising) to ameliorate conflict.

    #113450
    Armenio Pereira
    Participant

    We’re on our way to become the fossil fuels of the future; some may even become future diamonds.
    Carbon-based lifeforms.
    Still beauty or relentless motion, biochemistry and geology working within the confines of rules set not by us.

    And the fabled 21 grams?

    Light matter and dense matter parting their ways, until life brings them together.
    Dense matter descends into the katabolic mysteries.
    Light matter joins the ether to become the sound
    of wind through the reeds; the eerie, quiet whisper
    heard in those dark, lonely hours; the soundtrack to
    oneiric portents.

    #113451
    Armenio Pereira
    Participant

    #113452
    Susmarie108
    Participant

    Great insight, worth reading: Life at the End of an Empire with St Augustine

    “Citing Cicero (106 – 43 BC), Augustine’s insight into the true causes of Rome’s downfall hinged on the positive conception of a healthy society which is in harmony with the mandate of the ideal City of God. This is a society which has wisely rejected the law of “might makes right” of empire.”

    “Citing Cicero, Augustine defines a healthy community saying “a community of commonwealth is not an association of units, but an association united by a common sense of right and a community of common interest”. Continuing to cite Cicero’s 64 BC opus, he writes “the morality has passed away and we are bound to be called to account for the disaster… for we retain the name of a commonwealth, but we have lost the reality long ago, and this was not through any misfortune, but our own misdemeanors””.

    “Augustine’s City of God is in many ways his attempt to do what Plato laid out in his life’s work and especially his Republic (published in 375 BC) and also what Cicero did in his Commonwealth published in 64 BC. In both cases the great philosopher/statesmen laid out their solutions to their nations’ slide into empire. All three noted that whenever societies fall into decadence which empire entails, the love of wisdom is replaced for the love of hedonism and other ephemeral pleasures. Love of the other is replaced with love of the self and considerations of the wellbeing of the whole community are reduced to the wellbeing of the individual member with power to impose their will onto the masses.”

    ““When a man’s resolve is to love God and to love his neighbor as himself, not according to man’s standards but according to God’s, he is undoubtedly said to be a man of good will, because of this love. This attitude is more commonly called ‘caritas/agape’ in holy scripture; but it appears in the same sacred writing under the appellation ‘Love’. When the apostle is giving instructions about the choice of a man to rule God’s people, he says that such a man should be a lover of the Good… There is indeed a love which is given to what should not be loved and that love is hated in himself by one who loves the love which is given to a proper object of Love. For these can both exist in the same man and it is good for man that what makes for right living should increase in him and what makes for evil should die away until he is made perfectly sound and all his life is changed into good.””

    Life at the End of an Empire With St Augustine

    May Peace and LOVE find you.

    #113453
    Susmarie108
    Participant

    @Armenio: with gratitude for your contribution.

    Rejoice! “Light matter joins the ether to become the sound of wind through the reeds; the eerie, quiet whisper heard in those dark, lonely hours; the soundtrack to oneiric portents.”

    #113454
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    What we are witnessing is the complete failure of all of the fundamentally fraudulent narratives of western culture and fraudulent economic systems, which can be summarised as:

    1. Humans are the pinnacle of creation; the Earth and everything else on it were created for people to have dominion over….that dominion being restricted to using and abusing, and having no requirement for being good custodians. Thanks Bible and all the fake religious systems that eminated from it.

    2. The establishment of completely fake economic indicators such as GDP, which merely measures financial transactions and which counts conversion of finite resources into waste and destruction of the biosphere as economically good outcomes.

    3. The circulation of more paper notes as claims to gold than the actual gold that existed, followed by complete detachment of the financial system from any physical reality at all and the trading of ‘financial ‘products’ such as derivatives.

    4. The [false] notion that humans are masters of nature and can control the outcomes of disrupting natural systems.

    5. Promotion of everything that is wasteful and destructive by governments, in order to keep the financial system from imploding in the short term.

    The great irony is that the more the fuckwits and maniacs in power attempt to prop up their Ponzi schemes and their fake power systems, the more damage they do, and the faster the system will crash.

    I follow what is happening in Ukraine very closely because it is clear that the immediate future will be decided by how quickly the fake narratives promoted by NATOstan unravel.

    We keep hearing about ‘advanced weapon systems’ like HIMARS.

    FFS! The Russians were using HIMARS in 80 years ago! They are just rocket launchers on the back of a truck!

    As was highlighted in the last video, western Europe is demilitarising by sending its obsolete weapon systems to Ukraine, for the Russians to blow them up.

    Rather than send F16 fighters to Ukraine and have them shot out of the sky, the US is cleverly getting Eurpoean nations to sent their old Soviet era planes, on the promise that those planes will be replaced with new ones, some time between 2024 and 2026.

    Does anyone serious think this [globalised, western-dominated] system will still be operating in 2026?

    Hands up if you think the present system will still be operating in 2024!

    In case you missed it

    #113455
    zerosum
    Participant
    #113457
    aspnaz
    Participant

    The Atlantic is as funny as Babylon Bee: BB has a serious competitor there!

    #113458
    kultsommer
    Participant

    @ John Day
    Thank you. Nice stories, as in the case you described, usually occur in meritorious ways:)
    I assume that sculpted seat is man-made-resin cast, rather than the carved and painted wood.

    #113459
    John Day
    Participant

    @PhoenixVoice #113449:
    Sister! That is the most excellent condensation of meaning regarding the French Revolution, Capitalism, Marx’s observations, Lenins liberties taken with those, representative and non-representative governance in the decisions of production, and the “ownership” therof!

    Ka-CHING!

    #113460
    John Day
    Participant

    @Kultsommer: Yes, the seat, very comfortable, is formed soft (ish) plastic, and the legs are wooden, with little rubber blobs on the end that make them grab very nicely. It is lovely design, comfortable, looks Danish, perhaps.

    #113461
    John Day
    Participant

    @Susmarie108: St Augustine had some good insights.
    He was, however, wrong about “Original Sin”, since it was based upon the faulty theorythat the “man’s seed” contained all that grew into a baby, and the womb was “fertile ground”.
    (There are other problems with it, too.)


    @AFewKnowTheTruth
    : You are in a good place to be a steward of nature, and it’s a good place for loaded bike-touring, too.

    #113462
    John Day
    Participant

    Twitter-Justice for (Transphobic!) J.K. Rowling;
    Rowling expresses compassion and best wished for Salman Rushdie, an established male islamist tweets, “Don’t worry, You’re next.”
    Twitter finds that to be within standards of permissible speech…

    Until a whole lot of people complain, then they suspended the account for what some right-wingers are calling a “death threat”. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/you-are-next-jk-rowling-receives-death-threat-wake-salman-rushdie-attack

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