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    M. C. Escher The Tower of Babel 1928   • God Wants Me To Save The World – Trump (RT) • Kamala Blows Pre-Taped Interview Question With Walz Right
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle August 30 2024]

    #167833
    tboc
    Participant

    i’ve asked before:

    What did you think Full Spectrum Dominance means?

    #167834
    tboc
    Participant

    trying to understand the plan?

    Imagine you are a child and you are being raped.

    #167835

    Why does that relaxing biden have six fingers on his left hand?

    #167836

    What I like is he doesn’t look like Biden at all, but everybody knows it’s him.

    #167837
    Dr. D
    Participant

    On Escher:
    EverythingOldNewAgain
    https://wallup.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/19/549307-Tower_of_Babel-European_Union.jpg

    “48% Of NYC Bus Riders Don’t Pay Fares

    Not enforcing the rules has CONSEQUENCES? Tell me more!

    “Friendly Fire Fiasco: Ukrainian Army Shoots Down Its Own F16 Jet, Pilot Killed

    Wow I paid $63 Million for the Jet, $10 million for the training, AND $10 Million for the missiles. …They’ll all American, they come from us. So $100M accident.

    I don’t mind. Ain’t no bridges falling or hungry people here in Ukraine America.

    Benz: did anyone not know that the CIA etc ran all Social Media? In complete contradiction to their founding law, Sec230? And when he says “They need the [Army] to protect their monopolies” what economic system is that again? Oh wait, is that illegal under a wiiiiiiiide variety of laws already in the United States, including Sec230, but also not excluding 1A and a Civil Human Rights violation?

    Like the other things, we don’t have a Constitution problem, we have great laws and a great system that everyone is far too immoral to enforce. Sorry, Madison and Franklin can’t help you there.

    Trump: well true or false, even as a scam, turning to God means something. Even for a psycho, that means they are ADMITTING there is a God, and that God means something and has power. He is then bringing God back into the discussion and setting a Meta presumption that the PEOPLE also generally believe in a God, and his power. We have been way past that, with our narcissists rejecting God at levels far beyond, and it hasn’t done us any good. Any leader should Machiavellian just PRETEND there is a God, and they believe in him, just to get better behavior out of the people, like Santa Claus. They did for centuries, but now even lying is too moral for them.

    So even as the worst possible read, this is a step up. This what happens when you push pure evil too far.

    “Kamala: “The climate crisis is real that it is an urgent matter to which we should apply metrics that include holding ourselves to deadlines around time.”

    I love it. This kind of word salad is the sort of thing every politician says with every sentence. That’s literally what they always sound like, what all their phrases mean. However, Kamala does it badly. It’s like a magician who keeps dropping the ball and lifting the handkerchief. I think she should lead into it, since it’s her core competency. However, a magician that does that is a comedian. Steve Martin did that gig many times as the Great Flyzini.

    “I’ll never demean another member’s service.” — Walz.

    Wow indeed.

    And again, my point wasn’t that Walz was good, it was that the media was attacking the wrong thing, and using E8/E9 jargon that means nothing and no civilians understand. Like so many times, and so many time to get the criminal off: it’s not that we shouldn’t impeach Bill Clinton, but not for having an affair on the side. That’s actually not illegal, and jumping just a technicality on that doesn’t make it any better. He sold the entire military patent book to China, then threw a dart and started bombing random locations on the globe. And those places were “Europe”. Maybe impeach for that? Spitballing? So accusing Walz for things he didn’t do, or didn’t matter, instead of the breathtaking things he DID do, that DID matter, is basically covering for him and letting him off. It’s the Prosecutor bringing the wrong crime to court knowing it will be thrown out and then scot-free on double jeopardy. At least don’t help.

    “• US Will Be ‘Crypto Capital of The Planet’ – Trump (RT)

    Hard to know what to say to this. Yes, in a way we are and have been, that’s good. And in a way most states are behind North Korea on Crypto laws. And we need that change after years of Biden using illegal tactics to corruptly encourage FTX while ALSO shutting down normal things like Etherium. But it reminds me of Trump knows that we’re going down, the Petrodollar is dead, and at the 49 year turn nothing can stop it. America First knows this, it’s been written since 1971, but especially when that turn was chosen in 1979 and 1981 not by Reagan, a figurehead, but the Fed and other bankers behind. So Trump knows when that falls, our “Exorbitant Privilege” will suddenly end, even as it is now. Therefore we MUST have domestic manufacturing as imports will be cut off, MUST have oil, farm, and exports, MUST have tariffs as that the revenue path under that system.

    The Derp State side says “No, we’ll kill, rob, murder, and extort the world.” With nuclear war. We’ll blow it all up rather than let a single dollar go. The “End of History”, we are the hyperpower and hegemon, and forever shall it be, amen. 1,000-Year Reich. But history’s not like that.

    Take it from Pool, moderately long: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMIVFu5Ce9o

    But put this way does something else: clears out the cobwebs of the mind for reporting.

    RUSSIA IS WARNING WWIII. THEY WILL NUKE US WITHOUT WARNING. Why?

    AMERICA AND NATO ARE INVADING, BOMBING ALL RUSSIA. Including BLOWING UP DEEP INTERNAL OIL DEPOTS. Day after day after day.

    Any sparks go off here? We somehow got sloooooowly sucked into this, incrementally, without noticing we’re now here, starting with a couple of loose, retired NATO training sergeants back in 2014? JUST. LIKE. WE. SAID.

    That’s World War Three, Jack.” If we send Javelins, [Trump] that’s WWIII. If we Naval Embargo them, steal their entire world banking account, that’s WWIII. If we send cluster bombs and use them on a civilian beach, that’s WWIII. If we sink their flagship, that’s WWIII. If we send long-range missiles and use them, that’s WWIII. If we send Abrams with nuclear bullets, that’s WWIII. If we send F16s, that’s WWIII. If we send F16s with JESSAM stealth nuclear missiles, that’s WWIII.

    If we INVADE RUSSIA and BLOW UP ALL THEIR OIL DEPOTS from coast to coast, internally, That’s WWIII.

    Well, I can’t make it any clearer. The Social Engineers know if you hear the same thing over and over, you get numb to it, like taste, and started 2014 and before, every day lulling, hypnotizing, stroking us to sleep until we can feel nothing. Like any cobra.

    So total collapse of the US Currency, end of all imports such that we have to use cryptos? That’s the BEST case outcome.

    ““Borrell has previously called on the West to lift all restrictions on Kiev’s use of the weapons it has provided [..] He argued that this would “help advance peace efforts.”

    All weapons, full war, anywhere in Russia, all the time. “That’s called World War Three, Jack.”

    Now, for PCR here: If Russia just tsunami-bombs all the East Cost and collapses the U.S. he K-Pop Derp State pulls a Starmer and wins just when it’s losing. Boot on the Face forever. That’s MORE dangerous to Russia, not less. Yet they need a firing solution. The US$ and Yemen is a good one.

    “Trump blasted his Democratic rival over the current administration’s record on inflation, which has consistently remained at over 3% 13% since Joe Biden became president.”

    Everything doesn’t double or triple in 3 years at 3%.

    ““This is economic suicide and is rapidly and permanently changing the perception of founders and investors” toward France,”

    Like NYC. And business people have a lot of stuff to move, so they don’t say anything, just call a meeting, make a plan, and execute it quietly as a point of legal fact.

    All late systems do this, because they’re broke and desperate, but also at their point of maximum power and corruption. As has been said many times: Why not just re-pass the budget of 2015? Was much too small for you? Nothing ran on that teeny, tiny far-right small government libertarian Obama guy? Yeah, well that budget is like a trillion smaller than today’s budgets. We didn’t have any problems with that budget only YESTERDAY. It was pork-fest omni-budget, black hole too large THEN. But now it’s too small.

    Point being: at maximum power and arrogance, they could save themselves by shrinking, adjusting just a Leeeeeeeetle bit. They could save themselves by shutting off corruption for their kids and forcing them to more merit just a leeeeeeeeetle bit. But they never do.

    This is also the difference in Tainter’s collapse: Nations have all kinds of challenges and changes, all the time. The challenge is never the issue. It’s that this ONE time they can’t adjust and respond and address it, even with all their resources, sum resources of the whole civilization at their disposal. They stop cooperating, which is what “Civilization” is. VOLUNTARY cooperation.

    ““This is economic suicide and is rapidly and permanently changing the perception of founders and investors” toward France,”

    France is fine, there’s nothing there they can’t change by going back to I dunno, 2019 or 2010, with a steady, mild lean in that direction. They commit suicide instead, with China right there stealing it all, barely less corrupt than Europe is. Day after day watching it happen. Why? We MAKE it happen. Designated capital flows. I MAKE the country rise, buy in, then MAKE it be corrupt by hiring suck leaders and policies nobody wants, then I short and MAKE it go down, while I’m buying Capital Flows in the NEW place.

    Ra’s al-Ghul. League of Shadows. WE decide when your society will fall or be killed. We MAKE it happen. There’s no “Organic” about it. If it doesn’t go down, there’s nothing to short, no burned up property to buy for pennies.

    France has to commit suicide. When you’re at the top, whenever that was, back years ago, it has to go down, that’s life and the wheel of time, right? Well we’re just helping. God’s work. Religious calling.

    “I have been, since the Russiagate years, perfectly comfortable with the term “Deep State.”

    Hard to believe just a few years ago they were denying there was any Deep State, by anybody, of any kind at all. Like “Lockheed Martin” doesn’t exist, they have no lobbyists. The “NeoCons” they wrote about for 20 years now never were and don’t continue from one administration to the next, but 100% of all employees are fired every time.

    Brain was not engaged. No terms are ever defined. It’s an emotional wash “Bad word, naughty word” vs “Good word, like word.” All I have to do is feed you chumps words, not even bananas? Sold! I can do this all day.

    Anyway, we’ve moved on all fronts, but it’s taken valuable years. Consensus reality is indeed shoved a mile in this direction. WHO shoved it? Again, so long as Agenda 2030 isn’t in, then I guess we’re still shooting at them, aren’t we? There are still endless good guys, White Hats, preventing it.

    So if there are no White Hats, what’s stopping them from their Plans? Their own self-control and good nature? If there’s none in government, then who’s restraining them? Shaylee down at the counter at the Dollar Store? Use your head.

    But! I know the best thing to do if you’re in a situation like this is to “Attack all your allies, say they don’t exist, reject them, and give up. That’s the road to winning” – Sun Tzu.

    “new administration, led by Prime Minister Mohammed Shia al-Sudani, that has been in power for just over two years.”

    Seen and the unseen. Suddenly we never heard about Iraq. What leader? What election? What prosperity? Iraq ceased to exist on earth and was airlifted to the moons of Jupiter like “Ultron”. Never heard from again.

    “Musk after the billionaire vowed to defy a court order”

    That’s pretty serious, but what if the Court Order is illegal? Qui Vadis?

    JB I don’t know if I fell into any traps. I don’t concede any of their premises in the first place and think they’re stupid. They can say “Aha” point and say I did all day, but if I shrug and refuse, what are they going to do except type at me? I know what they’re up to.

    These narcissistic psychopaths require codependents at this level, they need me to play along as if they’re actually in good faith. What if I refuse? By neither fighting nor conceding to them? I know who I am, they can accuse me of all kinds of things and generally do. So? The only thing that matters is if I GIVE something to them. Like telemarketers, I’m just using up all their valuable time for my sole amusement, with me in control and they lost money because I reeled them in, preventing them from using that time to attack and extract someone else.

    When it stops being amusing, I’ll walk away again.

    Actually very pleasant movie. Has that relaxed, paced vibe of the 80s action like Demolition Man, not taking itself too seriously, with just the right cast for the purpose. If you want to be successful and make a ton of money, make like 10 of these movies, since they must be incredibly cheap to make. That’s “The Message.”

    #167838
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Tboc: the Power of the Rainbow, of course!

    Taste the Rainbow.

    #167840
    those darned kids
    Participant

    nope.

    full spectrum, as in autism. there are so many autistic kids now that the plan is for them to soon take over.

    i hope they put someone with asperger’s in charge of nasa!¡!

    #167841
    Oroboros
    Participant

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    Oroboros
    Participant

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    #167843
    Oroboros
    Participant

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    #167844
    Oroboros
    Participant

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    #167845
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Deep Thoughts from SNL

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    #167846
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    I don’t have to imagine it…tboc.

    Ask Bishop Connare Greensburg Diocese and his acolyte Fr. George Pierce Holy Family Parish.

    So which one is it?:

    1. Ukraine F-16 crashed itself, pilot error
    2. Ukraine F-16 took a missile hit from a U.S/Ukr Patriot missile battery
    3. Russia shot down the Ukraine F-16 with a barrage of Russian missiles

    Does it matter?
    Who wants it to matter?
    Until Correspondent Ritter addresses it than the fallen tree never made a sound, right?

    Almost like:

    1. Matthew Thomas Crooks shot Trump
    2. Unknown would-be assailant shot Trump
    3. Secret Service snipers shot Trump

    Or this:
    1. Matthew Thomas Crooks shot at Hercules Team 1 (they wore Black Hats fulfilling Ds knot theory of the mind)
    2. Matthew Thomas Crooks shot at Hercules Team 2 (they also wore Black Hats also fulfilling Ds prophesy)
    3. Matthew Thomas Crooks shot at the running Butler county sniper (standard sniper procedure as running steadies the respiratory rate and alternately the heart rate better than beta blockers) who was shooting at Matthew or the guy below Matthew in the window

    Or
    1. Whose shrapnel hit Trumps ear?
    2. What targets were hit by SSST Hercules 1 and 2? (After all, Snipers don’t miss. Just ask them and all there fanboys)
    3. Compatore’s homicide is a local/state case. So where’s the bullet(s)? Who killed the local firefighter in the crossfire?

    Short quiz

    On every SEAL Team, the masters of covert operations and weapons experts, by NAVREGs and OPNAV, how many team members must be qualified to:

    1. fly/pilot a SH-60 or MV-22?
    A. 25%
    B. 10%
    C. 1 guy

    2. Land an F-22 on a carrier?
    A. 25%
    B. 10%
    C. 1 guy

    3. Drive a ship, SWO qualified
    A. 25%
    B. 10%
    C. 1 guy

    4. Perform an appendectomy or insert a chest tube in the field (SEAL Team corpsman)
    A. 25%
    B. 10%
    C. 1 guy
    D. None he’s more intent on killing

    5. Who’s the biggest bullshitter?
    A. Don Trump
    B. Tulsi his aide de camp
    C. Ritter
    D. Tim Walz

    #167847
    Oroboros
    Participant

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    #167849
    zerosum
    Participant

    https://x.com/overton_news/status/1829350037136048384?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1829350037136048384%7Ctwgr%5Ec1a2d0ff8a3a757135b4baa7d78358e6f32d3248%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theautomaticearth.com%2F2024%2F08%2Fdebt-rattle-august-30-2024%2F

    NEW – Harris is asked why her admin waited 3.5 years to implement asylum restrictions, she then blames Trump for killing border bill; “Because he believes that it would not have helped him politically, he told his folks in Congress, don’t put it forward.”
    ————
    https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/4361/text
    S.4361 – Border Act of 2024
    (Opinion: Spend $ you don’t have, Increase printing of $, increase inflation, Increase Pork)
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    “It is now hard to tell where the Democratic Party ends and the national-security state begins.”

    • The Sound of Enforced Silence (Patrick Lawrence)
    https://scheerpost.com/2024/08/29/patrick-lawrence-the-sound-of-enforced-silence/

    Yes, they will continue supporting terrorist Israel and the Nazi-infested regime in Ukraine just as they have to date, but they will avoid talking to you and me about the imperium’s gruesome business as they conduct it. Silence on such matters will be as gold to these people,
    ————
    Alternative Truths.

    Senior Russian officials have previously accused Kiev of engaging in “nuclear terrorism” by attacking Russian reactors. President Vladimir Putin specifically mentioned this when he stated that peace talks with Ukraine have been ruled out in the wake of the incursion into Kursk Region. He also cited Kiev’s attacks on civilians as a reason that negotiations are no longer possible. Following the incident with the Zaporozhye plant’s cooling tower, the Russian Foreign Ministry warned that Ukrainian forces would target the Kursk facility, and urged the IAEA to denounce these actions.

    The West has imposed as many sanctions as it could muster against Russia following the start of its special operation in Ukraine. Despite this, Russia grew its economy to the largest in Europe and the fourth largest in the world in purchase power parity (PPP). While sanctions were never effective in their stated goal of removing leaders from power, they were able to limit the economic growth of that country at the expense of the population living there. Now, even that tool is leaving the American cupboard. “Over time, they have learned to find ways around [sanctions] and it has actually strengthened them. It’s allowed them to become more self-sufficient to build more indigenous industries, which Iran has done,” explained Maloof.
    ———–

    Ukraine Lost 15% Of The F-16s They Had Karlivka And Synkivka Have Fallen⚔️Military Summary 2024.8.30

    Ukraine wants permissions to send missiles into Russia.
    However, NATO officers who are trained to operate the systems, will not operate missile systems to attack Russia.
    ———

    #167850
    zerosum
    Participant

    The media silence.


    CITY OF DREAMS | Official Trailer | In Theaters August 30
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwUE6WU_mdr5JZRU_omf6Cg
    or Vivek Ramaswamy Trailer- City of Dreams
    ———–

    #167851
    those darned kids
    Participant

    WAIT! THIS JUST IN FROM GLOBOCENTRO!¡!

    “nyaah, nyaah, nya, nyaah, nyaaaaaaaah”

    #167852
    zerosum
    Participant

    Believe or Not
    From the report of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation dated 08/29/2024.
    The enemy’s losses for yesterday were:
    ➖➖➖
    ⏺ 2525 military personnel
    ⏺ 33 units of armored vehicles
    ⏺ 22 * artillery systems, including 2 self-propelled guns
    ⏺ MLRS launcher (no specification)
    ⏺ 40 units of special vehicles
    ⏺ 36 UAVs
    ⏺ Electronic warfare station “Anklav-N”
    ⏺ electronic warfare station “Kvertus”
    ⏺ six electronic warfare stations (no specification)
    ➖➖➖
    ❗️ Units of the West military group have liberated the settlement of Stelmakhovka in the Luhansk People’s Republic .
    ➖➖➖
    ❗️ Units of the Center group of forces have liberated the settlement of Nikolaevka in the Donetsk People’s Republic .
    ➖➖➖
    Four ammunition depots were destroyed in the Kupyansk and Kherson directions.
    ➖➖➖
    A warehouse for long-range cruise missiles “Storm Shadow” and an oil depot that supplied fuel for military equipment of the Ukrainian Armed Forces were damaged.
    ➖➖➖
    Air defense systems shot down three Hammer guided bombs and a HIMARS rocket .
    ➖➖➖
    The Black Sea Fleet destroyed three Ukrainian unmanned boats in the Black Sea.

    *1 unit in the Kursk direction are indicated without decoding

    https://x.com/GeromanAT/status/1829228756235379104
    Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 30 2024

    #167854
    zerosum
    Participant

    It’s that time of the year again. Prepare.
    https://www.onxmaps.com/hunt/blog/deer-tracking
    Deer Tracking Tips for a Successful Hunt

    #167855
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    Ukraine bankrupts Britain.
    Why?

    https://alexkrainer.substack.com/p/the-coming-collapse-of-britain

    Who will bail out this chick?
    You, Dr d !?!?
    You, Pavel Durov?
    You, LT Weinberg??

    “Horrific testimony on the arrest in the UK of Sarah Wilkinson for opposing the genocide in Gaza. This is the fascist reaction from Keir Starmer and Yvette Cooper to losing control of the narrative, as the people overwhelmingly reject zionism. Sarah faces up to 14 years in jail.”

    “police came to her house just before 7.30am. 12 of them in total, some of them in plain clothes from the counter terrorism police. They said she was under arrest for “content that she has posted online.” Her house is being raided & they have seized all her electronic devices”

    I’m sure Tucker Carlson, Ritter, Tulsi et al will immediately address this indication of the Apocalypse on Free Speech.

    7% of the adult population multiplied by 3 or 4 family members knows exactly what E-4 means and the difference between E-8 and E-9. They know E-7, E-8 and E-9 never become (haha become) Colonel, Captain, Admiral or General.
    And they know how National Guard obtain Veteran status if ever.
    Is someone projecting their cluelessness onto the body politic?
    Yet the same reader never makes the same observation about the genuine obscurity of Tulsi Gabbard’s, Tim Walz’s National Guard bragging points. Why should the uninformed reader give a damn about an ?attribute? 1/4th the size of the active duty force?
    Tulsi’s National Guard service is more substantial because she’s pretty hot in uniform. Is that what does it for you Dr d?

    False equivalencies

    #167856
    zerosum
    Participant

    Ceasefire negotiations has hidden nor prevented a genocide of +40,000 Palestinians.
    Peace

    #167857
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Let’s inflict another mixed metaphor (I love ’em). There are two ships setting sail into a stormy future. One of them looks battered but seaworthy, and the other one is sinking in front of our eyes, with people and rats diving overboard like lemmings over a cliff. Choose your ride.

    #167858
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Capitalism – definitions? Why can’t we have a discussion where we respect others’ definitions?

    Well, first, because you are asking me to have amnesia and think you can get my agreement without even clearly making the request, without articulating your reasons so I can review your request and let you know my decision. (…but the answer on that is no)

    Consider, if you will, an abusive stepfather.

    On one side of a piece of paper, he writes “This is you”

    On the other side, he writes a whole bunch of words. “Stupid, lazy, malicious, exploitative, dumb animal, evil…” He draws a picture intended to be his 7 year old stepson. It’s badly drawn. Nevertheless, it looks suspiciously more like the stepfather than the kid. He does not notice.

    The abusive stepfather puts the piece of paper up against the 7 year old stepson’s face, “This is you” side towards him, and punches the picture in the face.

    capitalism:

    Make or do something that someone else would willingly pay you for
    without lies or coercion

    YES, there was no “Capitalism™” until Marx. Since Marx writes self-recursive self-negating word salad garbage, really, you can just throw the term Capitalism he coined IN the garbage. But, as often happens with the oppressed, they fight back by making a word their own.

    You ask anyone passing through leftist institutions, particularly academia, they will give a definition of Capitalism™ related to Marxism in some way. HOWEVER, ask any normal person NOT part of The Cathedral, not part of the intelligencia NOT indoctrinated by elitest academia what capitalism is and they will say THEIR definition, The Common People’s definition, which boils to mine above.

    HOW did The Common People, The Normal People, come to have such a different definition of capitalism from upper class and aspirational elitist upper middle class leftists? And the gentrified poor that uses their way of thinking as a luxury belief?

    Because that’s what you keep ATTACKING, assholes. The 7 year old kid is NOT at all fooled when you keep “punching your definition” over and over. It’s obvious that you are going through a sick pantomime of writing and drawing on the paper, putting it against their head, and punching.

    150 years of your obvious, very consistent use of this “definition” and STILL the special pleading for “respect” goes on. Not only are you going to DO it still, you beg, offendedly demand, etc that they pretend along with you about the paper.

    Your piece of paper is the marxist definition of Capitalism™ you tell us and your TARGET is clearly actual capitalism. (As we the people have defined it – for longer now than YOUR definition – we get it.) And the way your paper is psychologically functioning in terms of writing words on both sides, the portrait attempt, rings particularly true.

    #167859
    jb-hb
    Participant

    KARL MARX was extremely exploitative. Extremely and malignantly. All his life.

    IS IT ANY WONDER he created the memeplex of congnitohazards he did?

    Narcs (Cluster B personality disorders/Narcissistic Personality Disorder) will normally operate within their particular sphere – their underlings at work, their nuclear or extended family depending on how much is actually under their power.

    Trained as a Hegalian theologian and being a malignant narcissist, it is no wonder at all that Marx would have created a system of formalizing, systematizing, and legitimizing malignant narcissistic personality disorder.

    Trained into thinking of All Reality and Being as he was, he would reflexively have applied the typical Narc Envelopment techiques (as well as other Narc defense mechanisms) to everything. Narcs reflexively, stupidly use their defense mechanisms on whatever is in front of them. Hegel just happened to be in front of Marx. He made a narc net that can be cast over All Being. Fractal in nature, able to cover everything or focus down on any smaller group, any individual.

    Banking is a utility – enables exchange between entities. USEFUL to people. Bankers are useful as the ones who facilitate this service, as basic and obviously desirable as plumbers ensuring you have running water and flush toilets. They facilitate transactions between human beings – ie, normal humanity, having society, us interacting with each other. Human life itself.

    Banksters are frausters who use the banking system to insert themselves as middlemen. Instead of facilitating transactions for a fair fee, they interpose themselves. Once they take a blocking position in the middle spaces in between people, not only do they use it to collect inappropriate fees, they even direct the flows of interaction in ways people do not desire – interaction-paths that optimize skimming and scalping.

    Since humans live and survive socailly and this is not possible without service to others, misdirection of social/energy/monetary flows between humans TO skimming/scalping paths is far more harmful than the % they manage to skim. You ruin, by misdirection, the entire network of social interaction to get a 5% vig and collapse everything.

    But banksters are only theiving parasites – at least the idea that there would be SOME kind of continued flow TO scalp isn’t questioned.

    Narcissists absolutely cannot stand other people seeing and thinking clearly, coming to their own evaluations and judgments. If they experience anxiety over even the possibility of this, they swing their defense mechanisms into gear to disrupt and disregulate the person in question. Same goes for social situations. A narc will slander, triangulate, isolate, whatever it takes to keep people apart – from comparing notes, discussing. The coworkers underneath them, the family members under their sphere of influence.

    Decentralized interaction directly between their various family members – as opposed to going through THEM – is to be stopped or at least disrupted by any means necessary.

    In capitalism, we are ALREADY acting in each others’ service – intrinsically. We are already cooperating.

    Marxism wants to insert itself JUST LIKE A BANKSTER as a middleman between all human-to-human interactions. With an important distinction.

    It’s a typical mindfuck by an abuser to say a thing while doing its opposite. The abusive stepdad might yell at that 7 year old “APPLY YOURSELF!!!!” WHILE punishing him with physically or mentally traumatic punishments anytime he tries – or sabotage his efforts when he tries. And then yell at him to apply himself some more.

    No. NO. YOU’VE GOT TO COOPERATE!!!!!

    And then Marx interposes himself into EVERY human interaction, blocks free person-to-person transaction and requires it all be centralized – up to me and back down.

    From. To.

    Communal without service to others, because service to others intrinsically requires free individual evaluation of reality, individual value judgments, individual decision, individual to individual transaction, interaction – which deeply disturbs and agitates the Narc at their most fundamental level of being.

    Doing what kills communities while admonishing all to be communal. Berating others to be cooperative while blocking and punishing cooperation. A net (of projection) that can be fractally targeted over All or One, which can interpose itself between ANY peer-to-peer connection. (to isolate, triangulate, etc)

    #167860
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Basically a bankster/crony-capitalist and a marxist/communist/socialist does the same thing — interpose themselves as a blocking middleman in peer-to-peer transactions.

    The style of interposition and blocking is determined by the particular Cluster B personality disorder they have

    Bankster – antisocial personality disorder

    marxist/communist/socialist – narcissistic personality disorder

    #167861
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    I don’t begrudge you using the word “capitalism” any way that you want to, but you have no right to insist that anyone else accept your idiosyncratic definition verbatim and without question as being authoritatively absolute especially when your definition doesn’t even come close to any dictionary definition of the word “capitalism” that I have found in any dictionary or other reference text. You can’t just declare out of a clear blue sky that “this is what capitalism is” and expect the world to just agree.

    Clearly this topic has triggered a deeply sensitive conflict in your past experience, but hey, DON’T SHOOT YOUR CONVERSATIONAL PARTNERS. They are not the one’s who did you wrong.

    I fully sympathize with almost all of your values and viewpoints, even your opinions, but I firmly disagree with your thick-skulled insistence that the words of the English language are yours to define and carve into stone for the rest of us.

    #167862
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    The reason that NATO still refuses to launch long range missiles deep into Russia is because, at the end of the day, the LAW still does mean something.

    It is a matter of well documented fact that the missiles can only be managed and fired by actual and legitimately authorized NATO forces. If the missiles are fired then it was NATO itself who fired them, not some flunky in Ukraine.

    Thus, if the missiles are fired deep into Russia, then Russia can classify that act as a LEGALLY defined unprovoked preemptive act of war BY NATO against Russia, which then LEGALLY authorizes Russia to then do whatever the Laws of War allow to any and all NATO countries.

    NATO deeply deeply deeply understands that its member states (including much US owned property) stand no chance at all against Russia and its treaty-bound allies. It would be a remarkably short war.

    That is why the United States will do ANYTHING to get Russia to strike first. If Russia strikes first then it’s NATO who is the innocent victim of an unprovoked preemptive act of aggression . . . and all of the LEGAL advantages which that bestows upon the plaintiff in the multi-gazillion dollar quasi-legal financial battles around the entire globe which follow every major war. In those future battle the LAW still does mean something.

    #167873
    jb-hb
    Participant

    I don’t begrudge you using the word “capitalism” any way that you want to, but you have no right to insist that anyone else accept your idiosyncratic definition

    You have not paid attention. Please go back and read my first post.

    The Communist/Socialist/Marxist and the Normal Person AGREE on my definition of capitalism.

    The communist deploys word-salad as a weapon while their actions of 150 years show their agreement in detail.

    Think about their definition of Pragmatism.

    The Boomer Paradigm, the Boomer Eschatology, requires that we not only express ideas in certain idealistic ways, not only that we agree TO conjointly express ideas in certain idealistic ways, but that we agree that we all ARE expressing ideas and acting in such a way EVEN WHEN IT IS NOT WHAT IS HAPPENING.

    The 7 year old stepson thinks he’s being punched. The abusive stepfather thinks he’s punching the stepson. AND the abusive stepfather keeps writing, drawing, and waving that piece of paper around.

    I most certainly did not START any shooting.

    #167874
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    I have paid close attention. You are still insisting upon garnering to yourself sole authority to tell the rest of us what those words mean. Up ’til this point the shooting has all come from your side of the discussion, casting real aspersions upon anyone who doesn’t go along with your private definition of words that are not yours to define for others. What you choose to call “capitalism” just does not happen to coincide with the dictionary definition of “capitalism”. That leads to unnecessary conflict. I suggest that we use a common everyday dictionary, because otherwise I would have to agree with you changing the very definition of the word.

    #167875
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    We should all be delighted that so many pirates are abandoning their sinking ship, but be careful! They’re still pirates. Up until a few days ago they were trying to board your vessel and steal the silverware, sell you into slavery at the nearest port and make off with the rum.

    Musk, Trump, RFK Jr, Tulsi, the whole roster. “Former” pirates only since yesterday. Don’t trust any of them farther than you could throw them.

    Warren Buffet just bet 3.8 billion dollars that Bank of America (and Apple a couple weeks ago) is toast. He’s right. Everybody knows that he’s right. As good Pirates they know that it’s time to abandon ship, so I reckon that as early as this coming week the whole magilla goes south. Not just bank failures, but BIG BANK failures. I have a bet with my sister (stakes are a home-made apple pie and the ice cream to go with it. She reckons Wells Fargo will be first to go, but I said “Naw. The drug cartels have way more collective power than the Italian Mafia, so I reckon Bank of America will be the first to greet Davey Jones.”

    It will be a biggie, boys. The Fed is gonna be SERIOUSLY rattled, but can probably print one-more round of counterfeit to buy themselves a few more months. It will only be borrowed time, and not much even of that.

    They will ALL jump ship just as fast as they are able, but only those closest to the rail will make it. And don’t forget that the ones who try to switch sides NOW were all fully on-board with as rapaciously energetic Buccaneers just minutes ago and they are NOT your friend. After the handshake be sure to count your fingers. Better yet, walk them off the plank.

    #167876
    thomasjkenney
    Participant

    re: F-16, there’s an interlock. Can’t shoot friendly, transponder says. Was the transponder off? (!) Did Uncle Samwise not enable the interlocks when he handed over the keys and pinkslip?

    re: Kennedy, make Americans the healthiest… Yeah, totally not scary Obamaspeak.

    #167877
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Pirates will be pirates, and politicians will be politicians. The latest batch of pirates will stop doing what Zionest Israel (and its horde of money men) tells them to do when Zionest Israel (and gang) can no longer pay and blackmail the politicians and dirty cops into willing submission.

    I reckon that will be when the banks go down and drag the FED (and its corporate MIC sucklings) down with it.

    #167878
    Dora
    Participant

    I wish comedy sketch/improv artist Tim Conway was still alive.
    Every time I see Tim Walz speechifying I see Tim Conway doing a satire comedy sketch as Tim Walz. Makes me chuckle.

    #167879
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Don’t let slip the hounds of war to devour the enemy until those hounds have a fighting chance of living to devour more enemies after the first. We’re really close. I can tell by how hard the hounds are tugging at the leash. Soon they will eat their fill.

    #167880
    jb-hb
    Participant

    You are still insisting upon garnering to yourself sole authority to tell the rest of us what those words mean.

    No, man. No. The Communist is telling you by 150 years of countless discrete, specific actions in many countries, in many societies, in many contexts, replicated over and over.

    Agrh.

    Imagine a bug that can emit ant-pheromones that say it is one of the hive. It eats ant eggs.

    It goes down into the hive and is chomping away at the eggs, erasing the hive’s future. Ants, as they pass by, give it a jaunty wave “howdy neighbor! top o the day to you!”

    One defective ant notices something wrong is happening. Maybe it tries to physically stop what is happening, maybe it just tries to raise an alarm.

    Then an ant named DBS pushes in and says “Friends! We need to act according to agreed norms!”

    I’m not shooting at you nor do I think you are taking shots at me. But you are walking, mesmerized, into a firefight and loudly insisting, even when I directly speak of it, that the Boomer Paradigm is in play and MUST be what we all agree is happening.

    No, man. No.

    And how do you know what to help self-police? How do you know what NOT to be aware of with consistency?

    This is what I was talking about what, half a year, a year ago, about being disgusted that I fed on lies, internalized them, had become composed of them. The unspoken assumptions. What I let into myself without filter or actively participated in making myself blind to WHILE being so very proud of how hard-nosed, realist, and courageous I was.

    A social worker shows up. The abusive father in law explains that the kid is confused, doesn’t explain things very well. Hey social worker, I only punch this picture I drew. Kids huh. Maybe it comes off as a little weird, but here’s all the shit this kid puts me through…..

    Social worker coaches the kid on how we all need to not be big meanies and criticize each other for harmless idiosyncrasies, we’re all different. Also, Timmy, here’s a lot of ways you give your father trouble…

    They always attack capitalism, not Capitalism.

    #167881
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @Dora

    I can see it, too! Great performance.

    #167882
    thomasjkenney
    Participant

    re: Waltzing… “Wouldn’t you say that your dereliction of duty in The Guard presaged your dereliction of duty as mayor of Minneapolis?” Keep hammering it, because it’s a standalone and because it segues into many another fertile field.

    #167883
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @jb_hb

    Then an ant named DBS pushes in and says “Friends! We need to act according to agreed norms!”

    I said no such thing. You, sir are a liar. If you want to refute my position on something then you must refute what I actually said and meant. You do NOT have permission to put false and deliberately misleading PHONY words in my mouth so that you can refute the bullshit “straw man” that you claim is me.

    Also, if you choose to continue along this vein of using sand-box slurs (like calling me an ant) as means of argument then you should be ashamed of yourself. I thought you had better brains than that.

    #167884
    John Day
    Participant

    Days Of Crisis https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/days-of-crisis

    We are in a crisis-period of death throes of an established global financial and military power structure, composed at the end of World War-2, contested through the cold-war decades, then thrust to global dominance with the collapse of the USSR, and now collapsing from internal corruption consuming it like widespread cancer.
    Causes leading into this include the rate of profit taking being maintained as industrial output, especially in western countries, declined for many reasons, so the profits ate healthy industries. Many industries were moved to China, where they could produce at lower costs, maintaining the profits. those which remained in the west became weaker without productive investment, taking on loans to buy their own stocks back, maintaining “shareholder value”.
    Net oil production, including natural-gas-liquids and fracked-liquids, peaked in late 2018, and is on a plateau with ups and downs since then. I expect it to fall. There may be large, secret reserves in the Arctic and Antarctic, but they would take over a decade to bring online. Oil is Real Economy in the modern world.
    Two days ago I posted BOE Needs World War Three https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/boe-needs-world-war-three , which makes the case that the City Of London global financial interests are badly over-extended on their failing leveraged bets, calculated to profit from the political and economic collapses of Russia and Ukraine in such a way as to asset-strip both countries for further leveraged loans, and the payment of debt-service on these large, leveraged debt-bets.
    I was surprised to see that the post had garnered 14,400 views in about 6 hours, which is 10X what my typical post might get in 24 hours. I searched Substack statistics and could not tell where the views came from. Likes, comments and new-subscriptions were all stable. I immediately suspected that I had attracted the attention of some government-surveillance entity somewhere. I have not yet been invited to dine in Paris with Emmanuel Macron, and I am certain that I would decline such an offer.
    We are in an epoch where all constraints have been removed from the global elites. Appearances are much less important than the retention of raw power this year as their cancerous system consumes itself. It is our life support system, also. We have longer-term interests to support. They would kill as many of us as don’t comport to their plans. That is underway, with options to suddenly trip into World War Three, with emergency powers, such as were wielded by the heads of all great powers, and their financiers 80 years ago.

    ​ Largest in 2 decades, Israeli army launches major military operation in northern West Bank
    Israeli operation in northern West Bank involves 2 army brigades, helicopters, drones, bulldozers, according to local media​ https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/largest-in-2-decades-israeli-army-launches-major-military-operation-in-northern-west-bank/3314912

    Condemnations of Israeli offensive in West Bank pour in
    The Arab League and several countries strongly condemn the recent Israeli offensive against the occupied West Bank and warn it could further escalate tensions.​ https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/condemnations-of-israeli-offensive-in-west-bank-pour-in

    Israel blocks ambulance access to Nur Shams refugee camp in West Bank​ https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240829-israel-blocks-ambulance-access-to-nur-shams-refugee-camp-in-west-bank/

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