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    Albert Kahn Paris, Autochrome Lumière color photo 1914   • COVID19 Pandemic To ‘Bring Socialism To US’, Transform The World – Taleb (RT) • What’s
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle August 9 2020]

    #61952
    V. Arnold
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    Albert Kahn Paris, Autochrome Lumière color photo 1914

    I htink that photograph is just swell…
    😉

    #61953
    zerosum
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    Word, meaning, definitions, confusion

    forbearance:
    the action of refraining from exercising a legal right, especially enforcing the payment of a debt.
    Jubilee:
    means Joy, Celebration

    “(biblical) jubilee year … proclaim liberty throughout the land to all its inhabitants; it shall be a jubilee for you, when each of you shall return to his property and each of you shall return to his family

    #61954
    zerosum
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    Beirut explosion
    What will happen
    forbearance. jubilee,
    its all destroyed.
    Governments are joining together on a conference call to make plans to save …. ?????

    #61955
    The Black
    Participant

    If sending kids back to school this fall is important to Schumer, what’s the point of mail-in ballots?

    #61956
    anticlimactic
    Participant

    VACCINE

    I am still dubious as to whether a vaccine will ever be effective.

    If the antibodies disappear quickly [to zero for 83% of people within 2 months, and almost 100% after 3 months] then how useful will a vaccine actually be?

    It is claimed that 50% or more of the population are naturally resistant to the virus. This seems reasonable – I have not had the common flu for over 40 years although I must have been exposed,. My immune system deals with it as routine! This means that much of the population will be vaccinated when there is no need.

    The current vaccines can have side effects, sometimes serious. The Russians claim their vaccine has no side effects but that needs verification.

    Fauci now says that any vaccine is likely to be 50% to 60% effective.

    Summarising : 50% of the population will not need a vaccine, and may suffer side effects if they do. For the rest the vaccine may only be effective for 2 months, or not at all.

    Another question I have is whether repeat vaccinations cause ever increasing amounts of antibodies which may start harming the body’s organs.

    #61958
    John Day
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    I can’t get my pastes to post last night or today… shortening. shortening
    http://www.johndayblog.com/2020/08/accidents-happen.html

    ​Moon Of Alabama has videos, and what appears to be the final update as to the causal sequence, which fits well with about 10 videos from various angles and distances. The impounded fireworks were in the same warehouse with impounded ammonium nitrate, a high explosive, when detonated by another explosion. The first fireworks explosion blew off the roof, and the compartments were not much separated, as fireworks continued to detonate.​
    ​ ​There is a short video of firefighters at the initial fire. Reportedly none survived when the fireworks fire set off the ammonium nitrate. Another video shows the initial fire caused by welding. It burns a while and then sets off fireworks in a first explosion. This takes the roof off the warehouse. A few minutes later the fireworks cause the huge explosion of the ammonium nitrate.
    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/08/beirut-blast-wrap-up.html#more

    “Leave, You Are All Killers!” Protesters Storm Multiple Government Ministries In Beirut
    ​ ​The expected protests and riots have broken out in Beirut at the end of a week in which families mourned the over 150 killed in Tuesday’s blast centered on the port, which it’s now been revealed was the result of years of negligence by authorities who allowed 2,750 metric tons of ammonium nitrate to be unsafely stored right alongside a large stash of impounded fireworks.​..
    ​ Like the years-long banking crisis, the government is seen as directly responsible for this week’s epic tragedy, also given the lengthy paper trail showing multiple officials and entities begged the government to do something about the explosive substance stored so near a densely populated area.​..
    ​ ​It appears that going into the night the ministries now “taken over” the protesters include the Foreign Affairs, Environment, and Energy ministry buildings, as well as the Ministry of Economy.
    ​ ​Chants of “the people want the fall of the regime” as well as the burning of portraits of top Lebanese leaders and politicians, such as of President Michel Aoun could be observed during mass demonstrations at Martyr’s Square.
    ​ ​Lebanon’s national grain stockpile was completely destroyed, though the once massive silos shielded the Western part of the city from vast damage.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/leave-you-are-all-killers-lebanese-protesters-storm-multiple-government-ministries

    ​Libyan General Haftar, backed by Egypt, Russia and France appears to have advanced anti-aircraft defenses from either Russia (S-300) or the capable Iranian copy.. This puts pressure on Turkey to avoid risking aircraft, pilots and national prestige in an attempt to take the oilfields and port of Ras Lanuf, used for export​ of the oil. Standoff.

    Russian S-300 Air Defense System Spotted In Libya?

    It’s been a bad 30 years for polar ice caps, as the ice tries to cool off the rest of the world, as it absorbs more heat. Like a drink, Earth doesn’t get much warmer until the last of the ice melts.
    Canada’s last fully intact Arctic ice shelf collapses
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-climate-change-canada-idUSKCN2523JH

    My first pick of most important movie ever, Koyaanisqatsi (Life Out Of Balance) is explained here in 2 minutes, by Producer/Director, Godfrey Reggio. Thanks Cat.

    #61959
    zerosum
    Participant

    “Another question I have is whether repeat vaccinations cause ever increasing amounts of antibodies which may start harming the body’s organs.”

    Parallel question:
    Have past vaccinations,(which have been done in care homes), interacted to cause covid19 to be so deadly in care homes and spread from there to everywhere else?

    #61960
    zerosum
    Participant

    John Day

    Thanks for that link.
    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/08/beirut-blast-wrap-up.html
    That is the best reporting that I’ve read.

    #61961

    Anti,

    I think we’e down to diluting the definition of the term “vaccine”. Any substance that deserves the term would appear to have to provide immunity to a disease, not the ‘maybe’ 50 or 60% Fauci is talking about. That’s not a vaccine, that’s aspirin. Oxford:

    .. a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.

    Judging from the wide range of symptoms and afflictions that stem from corona infections, some of which are brand new, you have to wonder what the 100+ “labs” that tout progress are doing other than counting dollars. Given that when most of them started everyone still thought it was a lung disease, you have to ask if they went back to square one when we found it wasn’t, or thought restarting the entire phase I-II-III was too much of a pain and continued regardless.

    #61962
    Bill7
    Participant

    John Day, thank you for that video link to director Godfrey Reggio’s explanation of ‘Koyaanisquatsi’.

    #61963
    ₿oogaloo
    Participant

    “If the antibodies disappear quickly [to zero for 83% of people within 2 months, and almost 100% after 3 months] then how useful will a vaccine actually be? It is claimed that 50% or more of the population are naturally resistant to the virus.”

    According to one of the recent Chris Martenson videos, the key may be understanding the difference in the role between B cells, which produce antibodies, and T cells, which have a different function in the immune system. T cells appear to have their own mechanism for recognizing something they have seen before — they do not rely on antibodies for this. The theory is that up to 50% of the population might have natural immunity because they have already had common colds caused by other coronaviruses. The T cells that fought off that earlier minor infection know how to put down sars-cov-2. So the best vaccine against this virus might be to catch a common cold caused by another coronavirus.

    #61964
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    “I think we’e down to diluting the definition of the term “vaccine”. Any substance that deserves the term would appear to have to provide immunity to a disease, not the ‘maybe’ 50 or 60% Fauci is talking about.”

    The flu vaccine has been around a long time, and yet the CDC admits that it’s only 40-60% effective, and that’s during a good year!

    How effective is the flu vaccine?
    CDC conducts studies each year to determine how well the influenza (flu) vaccine protects against flu illness. While vaccine effectiveness (VE) can vary, recent studies show that flu vaccination reduces the risk of flu illness by between 40% and 60% among the overall population during seasons when most circulating flu viruses are well-matched to the flu vaccine.

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/vaccineeffect.htm

    The flu vaccine was less than 30% effective during four of the past 15 flu seasons.
    For some years, the 95% Confidence Interval for this data ranges down into negative numbers for the effectiveness, which seems to suggest that the vaccine could have caused more cases of the flu than it prevented that season.
    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/past-seasons-estimates.html

    #61965
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Doc Robinson

    Thanks, that’s one of the most informative comments re: vaccine effectiveness.
    I remember back in the 60’s my father got a flu vaccine shot. He then got the flu and was down for a week.
    I have never gotten a flu shot; but did get the flu once, a decade later; and was down for a week.
    No other problems.
    I’ll likely pass on a corona vaccine shot once available…we’ll see…

    Apropos to that, is my observations that the media is corrupt period!
    I no longer trust any of it, unless from someone I know, who has a proven record…
    The rest is just entertainment rubbish…

    #61966
    sumac.carol
    Participant

    Here’s a link to a great article by Jon Barron on the history of pandemics and an assessment of the particular situation in the U.S. One highlight:past pandemics lasted for hundreds of years, and kept coming back every 20 years or so.

    COVID-19: So Much Bad Information

    #61967
    zerosum
    Participant

    Talking about vaccine effectiveness made me remember that for most of my life I’ve read about someone, somewhere was trying out something that would improve his thinking and make him/her smarter.
    (Without success)
    I don’t ever remember hearing/reading, about anything that would prevent getting dumber.

    Maybe we are not getting smarter. Maybe its everyone else getting dumber.

    #61968
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    sumac.carol

    Whew; that’s a hell of a read. Good stuff though, especially the history lesson.
    Thanks

    #61969
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Maybe we are not getting smarter. Maybe its everyone else getting dumber.

    That’d be my vote… 😉

    #61971
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Ruminating through the astral plane,
    Plumbing the shallows of my brain,
    It occurs as a blinding light,
    That our government is screwing us bright…ly…
    64 million on social security,
    Nothing is secure or in parity,
    So please check you’re barbarity…
    And be sure it’s driven by clarity,
    …and it’s a rare commodity indeed,
    So please asses your genuine need.

    #61988
    sumac.carol
    Participant

    Wonderful poem V.Arnold

    #62016
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Wonderful poem V.Arnold

    Thank you sumac.carol… 🙂

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