Debt Rattle December 13 2022
Home › Forums › The Automatic Earth Forum › Debt Rattle December 13 2022
- This topic has 73 replies, 28 voices, and was last updated 1 year, 11 months ago by jb-hb.
-
AuthorPosts
-
December 13, 2022 at 8:18 pm #123330jb-hbParticipant
boscohorowitz, as far as “stop the hate,” that’s the mode that has been tried increasingly for decades now.
It reminds me of the recent Amazon “lord of the rings” fiasco, where into not-Galadriel, not-Elrond, and not-Gil-Galad’s mouths, their hack not-writers stuff pronouncements of how fighting evil makes everything eviler and worserer.
Tolkien understood how evil engages in doublespeak. The Orc torturing Frodo in Cirith Ungol yelling up to his cell about how he must be “up to something” as if HE’s the criminal. Or the Mouth of Sauron before the Morannon, speaking to the Captains of the West as if they are underhanded rebellious scumbags.
It does not follow that because orcs and evil sorcerers pretend to be righteous, that He Who Smelt It Always Dealt It.
In the soy and prozac infused “hate has no home here” world of today that enables and supports evil, demonstrably, with a track record of decades, I completely appreciate someone who holds and shows some legitimate anger at evil, especially with some panache, as some of our posters have.
December 13, 2022 at 8:25 pm #123331AfewknowthetruthParticipantI see that the thread is contaminated with climate misinformation yet again.
I suppose the posters of this kind of misinformation will keep posting misinformation until they can’t…a bit like the nutcases who declare that Ukraine is winning in its dispute with Russai over the cold-blooded murder of Russian-speaking people (and others), and also a bit like the cabal of psychotic, fascistic, totalitarian sociopaths who pretend to be leaders of the ‘western world’ and who persist with off-the-planet narratives that -either by design or by sheer incompetence (I believe the former now)- make everything that matters far whilst engaging in futile attempts to prop-up unravelling Ponzi schemes;
The Scorpion is damned ugly, but it’s got nothing on the brown-faced ‘whitey’ that has been installed by the global cabal (as a token Maori, I believe) to act as enabler for the transfer of digital currency and precious resources -much needed precious resources in this once-land-of-plenty but now land-of-poverty- to the crime hub in Kiev:
‘NZ increases support for Ukraine with millions more in humanitarian aid
New Zealand will provide another $3 million in humanitarian aid to Ukraine, Foreign Affairs Minister Nanaia Manhuta said after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy addressed Kiwi MPs at the Beehive on Wednesday.
Mahuta, in a statement, expressed New Zealand’s readiness to continue supporting Ukraine by supplying the likes of medical supplies, power generators, food and water as Ukrainians “face severe hardships over the winter”..
There’s ugly in form. And there’s ugly in thought. And there’s ugly in action.
Some of the players (actors and actresses) manage all three.
December 13, 2022 at 8:32 pm #123332The BlackParticipantI’m confident that the MSM will all be singing the same tune about SBF. Like a psycho killer leaving clues at a murder site, they can’t help it because it’s not conscious. The choir needed time to practice. They do however understand the law of primacy. The first thing people learn about a subject is the hardest to unlearn.
December 13, 2022 at 8:48 pm #123333D Benton SmithParticipantNot a good time for slipping back into the blissful oblivion of discomfort avoidance. If we weren’t doing the right thing with all of this complaining the bad guys wouldn’t be trying to make us shut up. If simple truths plainly spoken make you too uncomfortable there’s always the option of just going back to sleep.
Furthermore, I insist upon respectful recognition of my rank. I am not a major complainer. I am a GENERAL complainer.
December 13, 2022 at 8:57 pm #123334SeaBirdsParticipant‘…how did they ever make it through school, and even more suprisingly, to the top position in govt?’
Clearly they had the pre-requisites to be groomed and elevated into position in the fullness of time. – Massive egos, total lack of remorse, big mouths ready to spin lies to trusting, unwitting populations, no consideration whatsoever for fellow humankind, and a readiness to be manipulated and paid off to maintain their positions of prominence.
December 13, 2022 at 9:20 pm #123335jb-hbParticipantAfewknowthetruth, what’s the misinformation? You believe in Science, right?
December 13, 2022 at 9:26 pm #123336jb-hbParticipant….the posters of this kind of misinformation will keep posting misinformation until they can’t…a bit like the nutcases who declare that Ukraine is winning in its dispute with Russai over the cold-blooded murder of Russian-speaking people (and others), and also a bit like the cabal of psychotic, fascistic, totalitarian sociopaths who….
..and were the Vostok Ice Cores misogynistic racist antivaxxers on top of all that perhaps? Was a hitler mustache found to be clinging to the 350,000yr stratum when it was pulled out or something?
December 13, 2022 at 9:34 pm #123337zerosumParticipantReflection
After the Ukraine Is Over, Many a European Heart is AchingWhen the Zelensky regime falls, billions of dollars of Western arms and supplies will fall into Russian hands. The Kiev regime’s Western-incurred indebtedness to the West for arms and supplies over the last nearly nine years will be cancelled. US-exploited Kiev regime territory, 40% of the whole, will be taken back without compensation. This will be a small measure of compensation for the destruction that the US and its European vassals, including the Minsk I and Minsk II liars of Germany and France, have caused in the Ukraine, especially in the much-tried Donbass.
Apart from completing the liberation of the four provinces that it has taken back so far, Russia may also take back four more Russian-speaking provinces, those of Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, Nikolaev and Odessa, so joining up with Russian Transdnestria.
A coup in Kiev could take place, as the remnants of the Kiev Army collapse and the new Ukraine could then even become a Russian ally, like Belarus, part of the Union State.
Whether the five far western provinces of the present Ukraine remain with the new Ukraine, or three of them return to Poland, and one each to Hungary and Romania, remains to be seen
December 13, 2022 at 10:01 pm #123338GermParticipant@ bosco(happytimes)horowitz
Another totally, fucking, normal, everyday event!
“Hescock, 25, went for a jog on Tuesday in Boston when he collapsed and suffered cardiac arrest”.
S’all Good!
TVASF
December 13, 2022 at 10:13 pm #123339SeaBirdsParticipantBosco
‘I find that we cling to cynical pessimism as much as we cling to credulous hope. I’ll take credulous hope. Clinging to either leads to suffering, but hope at least gives you a good buzz before the inevitable hangover.’
Now there’s a shot of wisdom for the day. But … we seek balance, to see ‘both sides now,’ and take the chance to move on with a view to sunny uplands, whilst keeping an eye on the cobra curled in the corner!
Merkel’s hands:
Her balancing act didn’t seem to get her very far, or did it?
December 13, 2022 at 10:43 pm #123340WESParticipantGlobal Warming/Global Cooling Historical Cycles
Whenever it gets too hot, we make more ice to cool ourselves down.
So when the earth gets too hot, it too makes more ice to cool itself down.Monkey see.
Monkey do!December 13, 2022 at 10:51 pm #123341WESParticipantGeneral Winter
General Mud
General Complainer
General Safe And Effective
General Died Suddenly
General Died Unexpectedly
General Died In Sleep
General Lies
General Misinformation
General Disinformation
General CorruptionDecember 13, 2022 at 10:55 pm #123342citizenxParticipantI have a major complaint to voice toward you major complainers.
Can we stop being a drag all the time?
Can we get the kind of valuable info Germ provides without being told that not only is the sky falling, it’s falling especially hard rain on the fucking vaxxed who are so fucking fucked?
You of all retards around here trying to steer the topics, words, thoughts and expressions of others?
Let’s review your behavior here this past week shall WE?
12/13 = 8 posts and counting
12/12 = 19 posts
12/11 = 8 spam posts
12/10 = 10 spam posts
12/9 = 10 spam posts
12/08 = 9 spam posts
12/07 = 8 spam posts
12/06 = 10 spam posts
12/05 = 11 spam postsHow about stop spamming the forum here (again) so WE can get the info without your attention seeking narcissistic mentally ill behavior ?
Do you have a job anywhere that you are paid for showing up to work? How about volunteer your time in the real world ? Seriously man… You’re out of control and it’s pathetic to see every single day here. You’re a fucking drag…
But you’re still being a major.fucking.drag, and that’s a drag, you know?
Unfortunate to waist a definitive version of this tune on you-
You got a lotta nerve
And now I know you’re dissatisfied
With your position and your place
Don’t you understand it’s not my problemI wish that for just one time
You’d know what a drag it is to see youDecember 13, 2022 at 10:55 pm #123343RedneckParticipant“Well that would be an interesting fight, the trouble-making Poles versus the well armed Russians.”
Maybe you have been on holiday on the outer reaches of inter stellar space but while you were away Russia has been unable to defeat a tiny, corrupt country called Ukraine . Yet Poland and all of the world is just a cake walk for Ivan?
Only the old guard Soviets , a soon to be dead and buried lot are all fired up about war. The young don’t want to have anything to do with it. Russia’s biggest problem is just that , a lack of will to fight coupled with the corruption and incompetence of the old “Kursk” crew who still long for the good ‘ol days of the gulags.
Damn , just shoot any one who don’t wanna fight or send ‘em to Siberia. Drown the Ukrainian babies in the Dnieper and get Putin’s mate to sledge hammer the head of any traitors, no need for legalities.
Gorby is still the most hated man in Russian history , bring back the empire they cry!
Yet they are all going to be gung ho about fighting all the way across Ukraine and then into Europe?Kunstler is past his use by date, the old gonzo prose is gone and other than that he has nothing to offer , as some one said , just another Jew refusing to recognise that the bulk of the worst offenders in the US and globally are his brothers.
and of course that leads to Sam Bankrupt Freid or who ever he is. Just another Jew with his head deep in the trough , continuing the long tradition of greed and corruption , a non-story actually without his associations with all the other Israelis raping the world.
Sundance is onto it. Unless Musk exposes the marriage between Twitter and the intel agencies including DHS and the other suveilance agencies it is just another cover up , I don’t see the truth ever coming into the light of day. For one Musk has too much to lose and is therefore compromised.
December 13, 2022 at 10:57 pm #123344Dr. DParticipantBenton: Yes, how does Egyptus know they don’t want to know? Do they pre-know somehow? This is the same as “died suddenly”: somehow we already know we don’t want to find out why. Huh. Sounds to me like you actually DO know. Really, really certainly. You’re in open denial. Otherwise, you would just be curious, investigate and look.
I’m fascinated by this ability to pre-know without knowing, as I do not have this feature.
For being happy, I already remarked this isn’t getting us anywhere. And daily frustration. But everyone complains about the weather but nobody DOES anything about it. Bosco complains about complaining. We/I started this both to point out what wasn’t then obvious, and 2) to make useful money on the trade of pre-knowing. Unfortunately, #2 is a Number two for the lack of any real markets. And it makes me as cranky as anyone.
Just heard Max Kaiser, always the clown, but feeling mean and defensive to interviewer about BTC $200k. That’s a legit question, so man up, Max! Own up to it. And people are/were counting on you, bad trades may come green someday but you can’t spend someday. Don’t deny it. He’s as frustrated as the rest of us, although probably a billionaire now.
Without functioning markets half what we were doing has been sidelined. This was much of a Peak Oil expresses as a Financial Collapse blog. Neither happens. Both MAY be happening, but with such universal lying, who could tell?
As I said, though, all happinesses are highly individual, as are all solutions. How would we discuss them? I put a lot into philosophy the other day and didn’t get much back, although I don’t need to. But that demonstrates it’s not a solution or is not the wanted focus of this site.
December 13, 2022 at 11:12 pm #123345WESParticipantOh look a Fried bird over there! (No Hunter Biden squirrel seen.)
Oh look a Twitter censor bird over there! (No Deep State censor squirrel seen.)
Oh look a long covid bird over there! (No vaccine crime squirrel seen.)Are you being distracted?
December 13, 2022 at 11:14 pm #123346December 13, 2022 at 11:16 pm #123347RedneckParticipantDecember 13, 2022 at 11:18 pm #123348D Benton SmithParticipantLike my Dad used to say, too many Generals not enough civilians.
December 13, 2022 at 11:18 pm #123349RedneckParticipantDecember 14, 2022 at 12:22 am #123350Susmarie108ParticipantParticipating in life will provide feedback – seen and unseen. Best not to have expectations for its’ arrival and or the content. On the bright side, WE can choose our response.
What if the daily art went away, would this site be the same to/for you? I admit, I like it, look forward to it, and am attached to it being there. What if no more animal videos or cartoons? The soup kitchen updates deepen our connection with each other (if we want it) and provide a generous serving of hope and possibility. Everything in the middle is what fuels the daily gathering – powerful stuff, overwhelming at times – yet essential..
Same with the comments/commenters. They have a place here. Plus our host seems to let things flow with little interference – which makes time spent all the more potent.
Dr. D: do keep going down the philosophy path when your “travels” take you there. No comments doesn’t mean not received. No apologizing for philosophy, oxy + others are inspiring when following their Hearts. Am enjoying the new Yogi tea series and hope it continues. Appreciates Germ’s efforts to keep me from forgetting the ugly TRUTH.
You always have the option to skip over what does not serve you.
LOVE to Joni Mitchell for writing this beautiful song.
December 14, 2022 at 12:46 am #123351aspnazParticipantRedneck said
Maybe you have been on holiday on the outer reaches of inter stellar space but while you were away Russia has been unable to defeat a tiny, corrupt country called Ukraine .
Firstly, it is not Ukraine, it is NATO hiding behind Ukraine – the mask is the pretend persona of the real actor. Russia has nuclear weapons and is perfectly capable of totally destroying Ukraine, except that it is not fighting Ukraine, it is fighting NATO, so that would involve MAD.
NATO is now sending Patriot missiles to Ukraine which means that NATO is also sending troops to operate those missiles, possibly as fake mercenaries, which would be useless if left to the completely untrained Ukraine soldiers, if any still exist. NATO is getting more and more involved as Russia knew it would, so Russia is keeping its powder dry for the big fight, when NATO goes all in. The war has only just begun and you are already declaring the winner?
Russia has taken almost all of the land area of Ukraine that it wants, the remainder is now just a nuisance and we will see what happens, but you need to consider that the war is not over. Russia now needs to silence Ukraine but also needs to live with them as neighbours in the future, so a compromising stance would no doubt be their preference, except that NATO is not agreement capable so they will have to fight NATO into submission.
As the local Russia-bad sewer, spilling your nonsense onto TAE, even you must be wondering what Russia will do next.
December 14, 2022 at 12:50 am #123352Figmund SreudParticipantA lot of focus is put on the employment rate by these days, … and so this timely interview:
Record Millions Of US Adults Giving Up On Ever Finding Work | Nicholas Eberstadt
F.S.
December 14, 2022 at 12:53 am #123353aspnazParticipantRedneck said
Only the old guard Soviets , a soon to be dead and buried lot are all fired up about war. The young don’t want to have anything to do with it. Russia’s biggest problem is just that , a lack of will to fight coupled with the corruption and incompetence of the old “Kursk” crew who still long for the good ‘ol days of the gulags.
In the year before Covid I had to calm down an argument – about to get violent – between three Russian men from Vladivostok and a Ukrainian man, all windsurfers staying at the same B+B at a windsurfing resort. The Russians were telling the Ukrainian how they would take back their land from Ukraine and avenge the deaths of the Russians being killed in Ukraine. Eventually, me and another man had to break up the extremely passionate verbal fight that was about to get physical. This was before Covid and I am sure that the people of Russia are now even more incensed with the Ukrainians. But dream on, you think the Russians were not aware that their fellow Russians were being killed by Ukrainians for eight years? You think they are that ignorant? Don’t underestimate your opponent.
December 14, 2022 at 1:01 am #123354vladParticipantSusmarie
Always loved Joni, but prefer the later recording of this song. Like June Tabor’s two recordings of “Grey Funnel Line” (the earlier one with Maddy Prior), by the time we get to sixtyish we are starting to feel the darkness a bit more. June’s later version comes from her album “Ashore” – a masterpiece in my humble opinion.
Vlad
December 14, 2022 at 1:20 am #123355RedneckParticipantThe Chinx have completely lost their minds. This country is the future world leader?
The country looks more like North Korea every day.
December 14, 2022 at 1:55 am #123356AfewknowthetruthParticipant‘If the next 75,000-100,000 years are likely to be increasingly MUCH COLDER, why worry about warming it up?’
How about because the rapid overheating that is taking place right now will render most of the Earth uninhabitable for most extant life forms (including humans) by mid-century and the lead-up to uninhabitability -especially the period 2025 to 2045- will absolutely horrific.
‘November 2022 compared to previous years
The downward linear trend in November sea ice extent over the 45-year satellite record is 51,800 square kilometers (20,000 square miles) per year, or 4.8 percent per decade relative to the 1981 to 2010 average. Based on the linear trend, since 1978, November has lost 2.28 million square kilometers (880,000 square miles). This is equivalent to 1.5 times the size of Alaska.
Figure 3. Monthly November ice extent for 1979 to 2022 shows a decline of 4.8 percent per decade.
December 14, 2022 at 3:03 am #123357Figmund SreudParticipantJohn Helmer interviewed:
… Chancellor Angela Merkel’s objectives are not different from Chancellor Adolph Hitler’s, but she has not made Hitler’s mistakes of fighting the British and Americans at the same time, nor of launching her military operation against Russia too soon. […]
… When Merkel told the Germans a few days ago that she intended Germany’s agreement to the Minsk accords of 2015, in order to give time for the military preparation of the Ukraine, she was repeating the time-buying pieces of paper which Hitler agreed with Czechoslovakia, the Soviet Union, and Great Britain in 1938. […]
… But Merkel has been following Hitler’s lead for longer. His Austrian Aschluss of March 1938 and takeover of Sudetenland six months later were shadowed by Merkel when she agreed to the February 21, 2014, agreement with Ukrainian President Victor Yanukovich – at the same time as Merkel also agreed to the US plan for the Maidan coup d’état replacing Yanukovich in Kiev and starting the plan to turn the Ukraine into a gun platform aimed squarely at Moscow. […]
HUNGARY ASKS THE WAR QUESTIONS — GERMANY’S GREEN FASCISM IS ONE OF THE ANSWERS
HUNGARY ASKS THE WAR QUESTIONS — GERMANY’S GREEN FASCISM IS ONE OF THE ANSWERS
F.S.
December 14, 2022 at 3:29 am #123358my parents said knowParticipantThe pilot show called “FTX” has marvelous revues-
With fraud and fancy names and tons of chirpy, cryptic clues.
It won’t take long to forge the shackles needed for the trap
When anyone with anything is taken for a sap.So in the end, the puzzling crunch that happened that September
So long ago, is getting much too fuzzy to remember.
The moneyed folks who run the world struck out on paths unwandered
To hide the fact that all the wealth that’s everywhere is laundered.December 14, 2022 at 3:52 am #123359my parents said knowParticipantRemember, remember the ides of September
The plandemic, digital plot.
I see no reason the transhuman treason should ever be forgot.December 14, 2022 at 3:53 am #123360Bill7ParticipantWhitney Webb™ interviewed remotely by Jimmy Dore: https://cinemaphile.com/watch?v=D3rhlXhvf-c&feature=youtu.be
Show me the part that’s not theatre.. I see “Seth Rich™” is back in recent news. Will “Ghislaine” be back tomorrow,
or is this still “Elon”‘ – trillionaire saviour of Free Speech™, dontcha know- week ?December 14, 2022 at 4:25 am #123361Bill7ParticipantDore seems to be having a hard time taking Ms. Webb’s rap (e.g. “National Crime Syndicate”) seriously.
Ms. Webb has an alt-Jen Psaki vibe. Spooky, and stuff. 😉self-discrediting..
December 14, 2022 at 10:39 am #123378D Benton SmithParticipantGee, Billy Boy, you packed three lies into three three sentences. Don’t they call that a “Hat Trick” or something?
Don’t worry, folks, the Dore-Webb interview is just fine, and yes, organized collapse of civilization is being administrated by the intelligence community.
December 14, 2022 at 9:01 pm #123417jb-hbParticipant‘If the next 75,000-100,000 years are likely to be increasingly MUCH COLDER, why worry about warming it up?’
How about because the rapid overheating that is taking place right now will render most of the Earth uninhabitable for most extant life forms (including humans) by mid-century and the lead-up to uninhabitability -especially the period 2025 to 2045- will absolutely horrific.
We’re 17,000 years into our interglacial. Look at the chart and you will see that it went TEN DEGREES warmer and STILL went glacial after about that time frame.
Why do you assume you can control the climate? On what specific basis?
‘November 2022 compared to previous years
The downward linear trend in November sea ice extent over the 45-year satellite record is 51,800 square kilometers (20,000 square miles) per year, or 4.8 percent per decade relative to the 1981 to 2010 average. Based on the linear trend, since 1978, November has lost 2.28 million square kilometers (880,000 square miles). This is equivalent to 1.5 times the size of Alaska.
Figure 3. Monthly November ice extent for 1979 to 2022 shows a decline of 4.8 percent per decade.
You’re picking where to start and averaging it out over all the years to ignore that sea ice has INCREASED recently.
And again, within the same approximate amount of interglacial time, you can see the CLIMATE going back into a GLACIAL PERIOD despite having been TEN DEGREES WARMER.
will absolutely horrific
instead of citing quasi moralistic quasi religious magic terms, please specify.
Do you expect a TEN DEGREE increase? Explain why OUR ten degree increase would be “horrific” and recent past ones were not?
Please explain previous predictions that it would be “HORRIFIC” RIGHT NOW AND SEVERAL YEARS AGO
Please explain why climate “scientists” have meddled with data, models, etc – ie LIED. Why did they need to do that?
They lied before. And the horrific time period previously predicted is past. Please explain specifically how we know they are not lying NOW.
Please explain how these Predictions Of Horrific differ from predictions of the End Of Days calculated by various religious whackos. Please explain how specifically we tell the difference.
-
AuthorPosts
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.
Sorry, the comment form is closed at this time.